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musichead
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Mastering.
Sunday, May 20 2012 @ 04:57 PM CDT

Can you master in Logic express 9 ? Any good links or advice would be helpful!

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jiguma
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Re:Mastering.
Monday, May 21 2012 @ 02:19 AM CDT

Steve, included with Logic Pro 8 there's a program called WaveBurner which does a passable job of mastering. Not sure about Express 9 though.
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davajonah
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Registered: 09/22/04
Posts: 446
Location: Liverpool, UK
 
Re:Mastering.
Monday, May 21 2012 @ 03:29 AM CDT

There are tons of tutorials online. Like Neil, I use Logic Pro 8, so I don't know if all the plugins are available in Express. You should try to get the sound you want when mixing, then you won't have to master too much, I would say. I usually reimport the aiff I've bounced back into Logic [or Waveburner] then have a fiddle about. In Logic 8, if you click on the settings button on the output track, you'll see some mastering presets. I assume you've got the same in Express, but I'm not sure. They'd be a good place to start.

Anyway, here's a link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugsh0p7OnzE

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musichead
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Re:Mastering.
Monday, May 21 2012 @ 03:50 PM CDT

So no links or answers?? and I do mix enough to get by. But I dont want to just get by!

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davajonah
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Re:Mastering.
Monday, May 21 2012 @ 04:05 PM CDT

Quote by: musichead
So no links or answers?? and I do mix enough to get by. But I dont want to just get by!


I gave you a link, above. I googled it. Try "mastering in Logic Express 9". As I said, there are lots of video tutorials out there. You could also pay and take an online course.

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AllenDean
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Location: Sacramento, California United States
 
Re:Mastering.
Thursday, June 07 2012 @ 09:36 AM CDT

You can master fantastically in Logic!
There is a specific mastering suite, when you open a new project. Go to produce, and select stereo mastering, or something like that. It pulls up a project file that you can take and drg in an AIFF of a finished line mix..
Here is what i use:
Channel EQ- set it to highest resolution. On the lower left side, you see the analyzer button? Set the resulotion to high, as the default is low. Then, click analyze. This shows the line mix's eq profile as the song plays. You can see all the frequencies you have( above zero line) that are in good shape as well as the one that are missing( belowthe zero line)... I take and bump up the missing freq's accordingly to taste, giving it abit more mid-low boosting and upper freq shine..
Then, i take the multiband compressor- try not to use presets...
In the comp window, you have four bands-low, low-mid, mid, and high. They are all set to 15.00.. Pull down on the arrows inthis field until you start seeing compression. I do this on all channels, then i can go back to each master volume, which are all set to 0.00, and bring them back up, replacing the tonality i just squashed, to taste. On the right, check if your master volume needs to be brought down at this point in the compressor. Your track master in logic should not redline at all. If it is, take the master fader in the compressor and bring it down until you are no longer red lining...
Finally, open the adaptive limiter, and set the bottom knob to -0.1, or -0.2. This will keep your volume from red lining no matter how hard you limit your mix.. I usually set my top knob to 7.0-8.0.. Any more than that, and you can lose all your nuances,and it turns your wav line into a brick- hence brickwall limiting...
Once you do all that, set your start and stop length for bouncing and bounce to desktop....if you want to see how you did visually, and compare your quickie master to the original, drag it into the same master file and compare the two waves...
Thats my quickie master.. There are tons of ways to do it, and some great videos online.. Logic, in my opinion, is the most powerful DAW i have ever worked with, and once oyu start getting into line mixing clean, low volume mixes, then bouncing into mastering suites, your mixes really come to life!
RAD
TvRicky
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Registered: 07/25/11
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Re:Mastering.
Thursday, June 07 2012 @ 12:52 PM CDT

Quote by: AllenDean
You can master fantastically in Logic!
There is a specific mastering suite, when you open a new project. Go to produce, and select stereo mastering, or something like that. It pulls up a project file that you can take and drg in an AIFF of a finished line mix..
Here is what i use:
Channel EQ- set it to highest resolution. On the lower left side, you see the analyzer button? Set the resulotion to high, as the default is low. Then, click analyze. This shows the line mix's eq profile as the song plays. You can see all the frequencies you have( above zero line) that are in good shape as well as the one that are missing( belowthe zero line)... I take and bump up the missing freq's accordingly to taste, giving it abit more mid-low boosting and upper freq shine..
Then, i take the multiband compressor- try not to use presets...
In the comp window, you have four bands-low, low-mid, mid, and high. They are all set to 15.00.. Pull down on the arrows inthis field until you start seeing compression. I do this on all channels, then i can go back to each master volume, which are all set to 0.00, and bring them back up, replacing the tonality i just squashed, to taste. On the right, check if your master volume needs to be brought down at this point in the compressor. Your track master in logic should not redline at all. If it is, take the master fader in the compressor and bring it down until you are no longer red lining...
Finally, open the adaptive limiter, and set the bottom knob to -0.1, or -0.2. This will keep your volume from red lining no matter how hard you limit your mix.. I usually set my top knob to 7.0-8.0.. Any more than that, and you can lose all your nuances,and it turns your wav line into a brick- hence brickwall limiting...
Once you do all that, set your start and stop length for bouncing and bounce to desktop....if you want to see how you did visually, and compare your quickie master to the original, drag it into the same master file and compare the two waves...
Thats my quickie master.. There are tons of ways to do it, and some great videos online.. Logic, in my opinion, is the most powerful DAW i have ever worked with, and once oyu start getting into line mixing clean, low volume mixes, then bouncing into mastering suites, your mixes really come to life!
RAD


This is really informative and I thank you for the time and valuable insight!
dimm witness
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Registered: 04/21/04
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Location: , california
 
Re:Mastering.
Thursday, June 07 2012 @ 05:22 PM CDT

I appreciate the info too. I just mix the songs down and I'm done unless I get vicdiesel involved Wink
snowdragon
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Re:Mastering.
Thursday, June 07 2012 @ 07:20 PM CDT

Quote by: TvRicky
Quote by: AllenDean
You can master fantastically in Logic!
There is a specific mastering suite, when you open a new project. Go to produce, and select stereo mastering, or something like that. It pulls up a project file that you can take and drg in an AIFF of a finished line mix..
Here is what i use:
Channel EQ- set it to highest resolution. On the lower left side, you see the analyzer button? Set the resulotion to high, as the default is low. Then, click analyze. This shows the line mix's eq profile as the song plays. You can see all the frequencies you have( above zero line) that are in good shape as well as the one that are missing( belowthe zero line)... I take and bump up the missing freq's accordingly to taste, giving it abit more mid-low boosting and upper freq shine..
Then, i take the multiband compressor- try not to use presets...
In the comp window, you have four bands-low, low-mid, mid, and high. They are all set to 15.00.. Pull down on the arrows inthis field until you start seeing compression. I do this on all channels, then i can go back to each master volume, which are all set to 0.00, and bring them back up, replacing the tonality i just squashed, to taste. On the right, check if your master volume needs to be brought down at this point in the compressor. Your track master in logic should not redline at all. If it is, take the master fader in the compressor and bring it down until you are no longer red lining...
Finally, open the adaptive limiter, and set the bottom knob to -0.1, or -0.2. This will keep your volume from red lining no matter how hard you limit your mix.. I usually set my top knob to 7.0-8.0.. Any more than that, and you can lose all your nuances,and it turns your wav line into a brick- hence brickwall limiting...
Once you do all that, set your start and stop length for bouncing and bounce to desktop....if you want to see how you did visually, and compare your quickie master to the original, drag it into the same master file and compare the two waves...
Thats my quickie master.. There are tons of ways to do it, and some great videos online.. Logic, in my opinion, is the most powerful DAW i have ever worked with, and once oyu start getting into line mixing clean, low volume mixes, then bouncing into mastering suites, your mixes really come to life!
RAD


This is really informative and I thank you for the time and valuable insight!




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musichead
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Location: Danville, Il USA
 
Re:Mastering.
Thursday, July 12 2012 @ 08:52 PM CDT

I did it ...Thanks...But I dont have an adaptive limiter. So I used the regular limiter..worked well thanks!!!!

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