Re:the truth about most artists ;)
Friday, June 24 2011 @ 03:54 AM CDT

Quote by: michaeljayklein The less time spent here or any site, the better off you are. The moment it becomes the sum total of your creative and artistic net worth, back away! It's always a relief to play to an audience that applauds to show their support--not to get the lowdown from each and every one after you're done. Just listen and if you like something, like it--but remember, nobody's getting paid to put out stuff here. It's many things to many people, so take it that way.

Correctomundo, MJK and let me add, I missed this place because of the people. I rarely critique and feel a bit uncomfortable when I do. If I listened and liked it, I fav and comment. If I didn't like it, I step out of the room, quietly and close the door. If I like the artist, I have fun with the comment in the hopes that he or she will enjoy it.

Re:the truth about most artists ;)
Friday, June 24 2011 @ 08:15 AM CDT

Quote by: StageStruck Yeah, some people ask for honesty ; but honesty is not the same as truth. Honesty, they can accept, it ain't something you can challenge or debate ; truth however can only be accepted if it is proven. An artist who does not accept the truth of your honesty will always have a problem with it. I don't believe there is a universal truth, no ultimate judge, no right and wrong about music any more than religion, politics or any other art. I believe the starter of this thread was being a little mischieveous perhaps to stimulate debate, I'm impressed by the way MacJammers take on a challenge.

Welcome to MJ. Good points - well made.

Re:the truth about most artists ;)
Friday, June 24 2011 @ 10:25 AM CDT

Quote by: J.A.Stewart In my experience, the best way to find out if your music has potential is to go out and play it at venues full of strangers who don;t know you and who, for the most part, aren't really interested in hearing you. If a song resonates with them, you've probably got something. If not, it's probably time to re-think your work and try again.

While I agree with this, there are some cases where live performance is not an option for some people.

Regardless of the feedback potential of live performance for developing songs, when it comes to recording, mixing and mastering, performing live is of no use, and those technical aspects are a big part of what people on this site are dealing with.

For the record, when I post a song to MacJams, my feedback critique level is always set to 'sock it to me'.

Re:the truth about most artists ;)
Friday, June 24 2011 @ 12:11 PM CDT

Quote by: StageStruck Yeah, some people ask for honesty ; but honesty is not the same as truth. Honesty, they can accept, it ain't something you can challenge or debate ; truth however can only be accepted if it is proven. An artist who does not accept the truth of your honesty will always have a problem with it. I don't believe there is a universal truth, no ultimate judge, no right and wrong about music any more than religion, politics or any other art.

I was just having this same thought. Honesty is great, but there are critics out there who crossover into opinion politics, where they frame their comments on what they deem as absolute truth. These kind of critiques can be annoying because you need to accept their personal music paradigms in order to extract anything useful out of the comments. It's like here, I'm trying to help you but first you must accept all my rules and peccadilloes.

So don't get me wrong, when I say honesty I'm not talking about honest bullying, rather I just think the best environment for reviews is one where the listeners don't crush their raw opinions with a happy/positivity filter before emitting.

Re:the truth about most artists ;)
Friday, June 24 2011 @ 01:39 PM CDT

yes, so some people don't like to be critiqued and others very much do. some people aren't very helpful with their feedback and others are. some people just like to listen and leave positive/supportive comments, and others think that's a waste of time. some people are here to learn, others are here just to enjoy the music, and everything in between. you cannot make accurate generalizations about such a huge and diverse group of people. folks are here for all kinds of different reasons and participate in a wide variety of ways. just be here for whatever YOUR reasons are, participate the way that best works for YOU, be respectful of others, and try to have a little fun.

Re:the truth about most artists ;)
Friday, June 24 2011 @ 01:51 PM CDT

Karen said: "and try to have a little fun"


aah,yes, the "F" word,which I think that is what some people forget. When they become musical some people become verrry serrrrious and look down their noses at those who are ecstatic to be simply able to coax a note or even a whole tune out of an instrument.and you can bash me as much as you like........positively.


Jarvoid

Re:the truth about most artists ;)
Friday, June 24 2011 @ 04:20 PM CDT

Quote by: Jarvoid Karen said: "and try to have a little fun" aah,yes, the "F" word,which I think that is what some people forget. When they become musical some people become verrry serrrrious and look down their noses at those who are ecstatic to be simply able to coax a note or even a whole tune out of an instrument.and you can bash me as much as you like........positively. Jarvoid

Ain't that the truth!!

Re:the truth about most artists ;)
Friday, June 24 2011 @ 05:16 PM CDT

honest

Re:the truth about most artists ;)
Friday, June 24 2011 @ 05:46 PM CDT

Thanks Tim, I love ya bro!
You can buy plots in Candyland too. You could be buried next to the road that goes by the Big Rock Candy Mountain.
Imagine, you and eternity together, contemplating sugar. You could comment with equal authority on matters of non-objective reality with those fortunate enough to be dead within shouting distance to you. And when the rains came heavy, like in a hurricane steered by a pol, the water table would exceed the sea level and your concrete encased coffin would rise from the grave... floating your boat!
Make ya wanna burst into "Singing In The Rain"? I got the brochure...

Daug

Re:the truth about most artists ;)
Friday, June 24 2011 @ 05:59 PM CDT

Quote by: Daugrin Thanks Tim, I love ya bro! You can buy plots in Candyland too. You could be buried next to the road that goes by the Big Rock Candy Mountain. Imagine, you and eternity together, contemplating sugar. You could comment with equally authority on matters of non-objective reality with those fortunate enough to be dead within shouting distance to you. And when the rains came heavy, like in a hurricane steered by a pol, the water table would exceed the sea level and your concrete encased coffin would rise from the grave... floating your boat. Make ya wanna burst into "Singing In The Rain"? I got the brochure... Daug

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