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jgurner
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Registered: 05/20/04
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Location: The Valley, Mississippi USofA
 
Re:Did Steve Jobs kill the music industry?
Tuesday, March 15 2011 @ 04:56 PM CDT

Quote by: stevel

But on a serious (?) note....I just bought a turntable at the weekend and am really enjoying playing all my old vinyl again. I really notice that I appreciate the warmer, fuller sound more...and I even enjoy having to get up and change the LP's over after side one is finished.


I love vinyl. I've even bought a number of albums on vinyl at junk stores and yard sales over the past few years even though I don't have a turntable. I do want to get a new turntable at some point, but I'm looking for one that will play 78 rpm. I have stacks of my dad's old records from the 30s and 40s, mostly opera and classical, that I'd love to be able to play. But it's are to find one, especially USB and more especially at a price I can afford.

Quote by: bud
...but at the same time the digital revolution democratized the art of recording music. More artists get to be heard by more people now that at any time in the history of music. (You can quote me - I just made that up). One can argue about the state of commercial music - but never before has so much alternative music been available.
Might not be good for business - but I think it's great for music.


I completely agree. I have to say I listen to more music, a wider range of genres and many more artists than I ever have before and the digital music revolution is the reason.

Even if you put aside the number of artists I've heard here and at other similar sites (but, mostly here), there are tons of musicians I would have never heard of, much less heard anything by, if it hadn't been for the Interwebs.

Hell, just the number of artists people here at MJ have recommended that I've gone out and bought their CDs would make a pretty impressive music collection.
Elevator_Funk
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Registered: 01/24/08
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Location: , Montana
 
Re:Did Steve Jobs kill the music industry?
Tuesday, March 15 2011 @ 04:58 PM CDT

Quote by: bud

More artists get to be heard by more people now that at any time in the history of music. (You can quote me - I just made that up). One can argue about the state of commercial music - but never before has so much alternative music been available.
Might not be good for business - but I think it's great for music.




I agree with this. I can't keep up with all the good music, lately. My KCRW podcasts are a lifeline of good music out here in Montana.


 
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Alimar
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Registered: 04/27/04
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Location: Niagara Falls, NY United States
 
Re:Did Steve Jobs kill the music industry?
Tuesday, March 15 2011 @ 05:06 PM CDT

Shot through the heart... Steve Jobs to blame... He gave music a bad name.

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Komrade K
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Registered: 08/02/05
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Location: Whitstable, Kent England
 
Re:Did Steve Jobs kill the music industry?
Tuesday, March 15 2011 @ 05:10 PM CDT

Quote by: stevel
I'd be happier if he had just killed Bon Jovi....hehe
But on a serious (?) note....I just bought a turntable at the weekend and am really enjoying playing all my old vinyl again. I really notice that I appreciate the warmer, fuller sound more...and I even enjoy having to get up and change the LP's over after side one is finished. I do still value 'the album' experience....I think the problem with some CDs is that they are often bloated with filler to get to a 70 min running time when a 45 minute album is all you really want and need. Mp3s are convenient in terms of portability but I never feel like I really 'own' or value a download...too ephemeral. But useful as Mark says if you just want one track here and there.



About 15 years ago I remember being very surprised by the fact that a girlfriend of mine was scared to turn an vinyl LP over because she'd only ever used CDs and cassettes! Truth is I probably haven't played vinyl myself for over a decade (despite having appeared on a 7" single recently).

Most teenagers I know pretty much only listen to MP3s and engage with recorded music in a very different way to how I did when I was their age. So 'valuing the album experience' might be just a generational thing.

The LP format is possibly a blip in the history of recorded music and probably reached its heyday in the 70s and 80s. But overall the shifts between single v LP formats is a bit of a side show as music generally has lost out to other forms of digital entertainment - e.g. games, social networking and video - all of which compete for the consumer's time (and time is a key component of the LP vinyl album experience).

KK


Symphony101
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Re:Did Steve Jobs kill the music industry?
Tuesday, March 15 2011 @ 05:11 PM CDT

I think like many said on the thread ... things change. Not only with music, but also on other areas (don't many of us read now as much on the screen as in a book/magazine ?).

I also took pleasure going through the album artwork, following lyrics while I was listening to the record, etc but in my opinion the main reason why we buy a record is the music. Would we say the product is dead because it's packed differently ?

I think the main concern here is the change and not being able to find our previous habits (and pleasures related to this), not that some different delivery mechanism just killed the art.

For me, it'll be longtime before I enjoy more reading any other way than holding a book ...

Just my opinion.


 
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Komrade K
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Re:Did Steve Jobs kill the music industry?
Tuesday, March 15 2011 @ 05:14 PM CDT

Quote by: -Harold-
did someone get erased today?

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KK
Mosaica
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Registered: 12/19/10
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Location: SW England, United Kingdom
 
Re:Did Steve Jobs kill the music industry?
Tuesday, March 15 2011 @ 05:28 PM CDT

I don't think he's killed it, but just help forge its change to something new.

For me, music is purely an aural experience, I don't need to have something physical to hold. But I do appreciate that a CD or vinyl LP makes a more "attractive" gift than an iTunes voucher! And, like earlier posters have said, you get the nice artwork and liner notes which are missing with downloads and self-compiled CDs.

I still prefer the flexibility we have with today's business model - I feel far less guilt-ridden buying lots of individual mp3 tunes that are ONLY the ones I want than when I had to spend £15 on an album and I liked only a third of it.
 
jgurner
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Registered: 05/20/04
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Location: The Valley, Mississippi USofA
 
Re:Did Steve Jobs kill the music industry?
Tuesday, March 15 2011 @ 05:40 PM CDT

Quote by: Elevator_Funk
No. I use Garageband pretty much every other day, on my Mac. The industry killed itself, and Bon Jovi helped. I remember liking Slippery When Wet, but I forgive myself, because I was 10 years old.


Okay. I have to confess. I actually went to see them in concert on the Slippery When Wet tour, but I can explain. There was this really hot redhead...