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Skean
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Re:Jesus Christ dead, age approx. 32
Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 05:19 AM CDT

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if all the wars who is on now is about peace on earth I promises you to eat my car.

Peace & Cheers
Kenta



First, can you eat your car anyway? It sounds like it would be cool so why wait? I would really like to see! Smile

Second, I have enjoyed your contribution my long lost Viking brother.




Hahaha... Yes maybe I should do it, but then I have to go to US and do a show about it, I guess it can be a good money income.

And you take care my Viking brother, I wish I was half that good to writhe as you.

Peace & Cheers
Kenta

I Almost Always Try to Think Positive Thoughts.
Skean
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Re:Jesus Christ dead, age approx. 32
Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 05:30 AM CDT

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Kenta

I'm liking the idea of edible cars too. Maybe you two can get some Viking ingenuity on it and get it going. There's got to be a market for it. ;^) Can you make mine taste like steak?



Laughing Out Loud As I say to my Viking bro, it have to be in US cos you guys is so good to make shows, and I bet it can give me a few bucks... Hey! some cool spices and little magic I'll think we can fix the steak for ya. Wink

Take care
Kenta

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alley-oop
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Re:Jesus Christ dead, age approx. 32
Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 07:52 AM CDT

After reading this post, I've come to this conclusion. Members who comment are pretty much 50/50 on the whole God vs. Science issue.
People are predetermined to be either: science/reality based or faith/supernatural based. It's genetic in nature. I have a predisposition to be a science/reality based. I have family members who are faith/supernatural based. Same thing here at Macjams. It's pointless to some degree to debate this issue.
What is important is that faith-based people should not think all non-believers are sinners, lost, evil and without real purpose.
And conversely, science-based people should not think all religious people are nut-job wackos.
Also, being good or bad has nothing to do with what side of the equation you fall on. There are very evil faith-based people as well as very evil science-based people. 50/50 here too. Good people fall on both sides of the equation as well. Bear in mind, most people are not all good or all bad.
Some conclusions:
Religions do lots of good stuff and help millions around the globe. However, my observation is faithful people think life on earth is just a pit-stop on the way to heaven and they treat the planet as such, not all, but religious organizations are not very up to speed on the destruction of the planet. And if you are faithful, DON"T quote scripture to prove a point. To anyone who has a pre-disposition to be a science-based person, scripture sounds like mumbo-jumbo crapola. Keep it to yourself.
Science-based people should accept that a religious-based society is basically good. Again there is a sliding scale, varying degrees of faith and science together as well.
I only know what my mind can reason. This planet will flame out in 4-8 billion years. The universe is to vast for anyone to comprehend. All species eventually have gone extinct on this planet.
Look at Easter Island, a advanced society closed off from the rest of the world. The human inhabitants used up all the resources, everything died out, all the topsoil went into the sea. Even now, it is an environment without plant or animal life to speak of. We are capable of doing the same thing to the entire plant.
So, we ruin the planet now or in flames out in 4-8 billion years. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. There are countless big bangs going on in the universe as I write this. Our segment of the universe will eventually get sucked into various black holes and again, a big bang will commence. Maybe in a few billion years later (years..ha, what an earth-based concept) Another mass of elements will form close to a new star. The 'astrological sweet spot' The right combination of compounds and "abracadabra" life is capable of progressing passed single-cell life forms.
As far as my little pea-brain can comprehend, its been going on for forever. And will continue this way for forever.
Last note, I think I have as much compassion for humanity as any person, science or faith-based. But, I don't think humans are any more important than monkeys, or dogs or pine trees or crabgrass or whales or microbes or dirt.
I love music, art, people, my family. Love is a wonderful thing, not exclusive to humans.

I do believe this: God is Love.

As an addendum, I also understand that love is a chemical reaction that manifests itself as a behavioral trait shared among most higher life-forms. A trait that has made successful life forms care for their offspring over themselves. Hence, loving lifeforms are still here. We humans, with our mondo-giant cerebral cortex, have the ability love more complexly then say, a crocodile protecting it's offspring (same chemistry in both species, btw).
Our ability to love more than in a biological sense is where art has it's roots.
Anyway, its all very fascinating. Science, religion, sociology, anthropology, all that stuff.
I do love being alive. Its great. I think the concept of living eternally after this body gives out is wonderful. I just don't believe it.
I love my Fender Reverb Deluxe tube amp when it has been on for hours in the hot sun, because it sings like an angel.
Thanks for reading this if you did. It felt good to write my thoughts down.

Skean
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Re:Jesus Christ dead, age approx. 32
Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 07:57 AM CDT


I Almost Always Try to Think Positive Thoughts.
Jim Bouchard
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Re:Jesus Christ dead, age approx. 32
Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 09:15 AM CDT

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I do believe this: God is Love.



http://www.macjams.com/song/42432


 
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Skean
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Re:Jesus Christ dead, age approx. 32
Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 01:53 PM CDT


I Almost Always Try to Think Positive Thoughts.


 
Re:Jesus Christ dead, age approx. 32
Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 02:17 PM CDT



"The hymn "It is Well with My Soul" becomes closest to heart for one undergoing grief. Written by a Presbyterian laywer Horatio G. Spafford (1828-1888) and composed by Philip P. Bliss (1838-1876), this deeply touching gospel song has long been loved.

The scripture reference is Psalm 46:1 "God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble."

Text Author and Hymn-Writer Horatio G. Spafford
Spafford was born on October 20, 1828 in North Troy, New York. He was a successful lawyer in Chicago who maintained a keen interest in Christian activities, deeply spiritual and devoted to the scriptures.

Chicago Fire and a Son's LossSometime in 1871, a fire in Chicago heavily devastated the city, and months before that , Spafford had invested hugely in real estate by the shore of Lake Michigan. The disaster greatly wiped out his holdings. Before the fire, Spafford also experienced the loss of his son.

A Calm and Worst Life Storm
Two years after the fire, Horatio Spafford planned a trip to Europe for him and his family. He wanted a rest for his wife and four daughters, and also to assist Moody and Sankey in one of their evangelistic campaigns in Great Britain. He was not meant to travel with his family. The day in November they were due to depart, Spafford had a last minute business transaction and had to stay behind in Chicago. Nevertheless, he still sent his wife and four daughters to travel as scheduled on the S.S. Ville du Havre, expecting to follow in a few days. On November 22, the ship laden with his wife and daughters was struck by the Lockhearn, an English vessel, and sank in few minutes.

Wife "Saved Alone"
After the survivors were finally landed somewhere at Cardiff, Wales, Spafford's wife cabled her husband with two simple words, "Saved alone." Shortly after, Spafford left by ship on his way where his beloved four daughters had drowned, and pen at hand, wrote this most poignant text so significantly descriptive of his own personal grief – "When sorrows like sea billows roll..." The hymn "It is Well with My Soul" was born.

It is Well with My Soul
It is noteworthy that Horatio Spafford did not dwell on the theme of life's sorrows and trials, instead, focused in the third stanza on the redemptive work of Christ, and in the fourth verse, anticipates His glorious second coming. (Refer below for CyberHymnal's link)

Composer Philip Bliss
Philip P. Bliss, the hymn composer, was a prolific writer of gospel songs. He was so impressed with the experience and expression of Spafford's text that he shortly wrote the music for it, first published in one of the praise hymn book, Sankey-Bliss Hymnals, Gospel Hymns No. 2. Shortly after writing 'It is Well With My Soul,' Bliss died in a tragic train accident.

On reflection, it is divinely amazing that one could experience such personal tragedies and sorrows as did Horatio Spafford, yet, able to say with such convincing clarity, "It is well with my soul." It is an enormous challenge to embrace the significance of this hymn."



Source of text/history:

http://christianmusic.suite101.com/article.cfm/hymn_it_is_well_with_my_soul

Chris Rice's delivery in the still video above reminds me of Scott Carmichael -
 
Ed Hannifin
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Re:Jesus Christ dead, age approx. 32
Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 04:16 PM CDT

Here is a poem I really enjoy, by David Whyte:

FAITH

I want to write about faith,
about the way the moon rises
over cold snow, night after night,

faithful even as it fades from fullness,
slowly becoming that last curving and impossible
sliver of light before the final darkness.

But I have no faith myself
I refuse it even the smallest entry.

Let this, then, my small poem,
like a new moon, slender and barely open,
be the first prayer that opens me to faith.


"We have to remember...when it's surrender that's called for, it's not surrender of your brains. It's surrender of your ego. It's a different thing." --Bruce Cockburn