Re:Warm isn't it?
Friday, July 13 2012 @ 08:56 PM CDT

Using government to find solutions to problems does not equal fascism.

Thinking smaller government equals peace, equality and freedom reminds me of the nostalgia of the peace-loving noble savage, both fantasies and both disprovable by the facts of history.

Re:Warm isn't it?
Friday, July 13 2012 @ 09:00 PM CDT

Quote by: MotherofMeursault Personally, I think the best way to deal with the (I believe very real) threat of corporations and extra-governmental agencies is to cut off their access to power by cutting off the government's ability to write laws and regulations that benefit those entities. A return to strict constitutional governance would make it impossible for Congress to grant advantages to anyone. That would naturally mean an enormous reduction in the size of government. But it would put an immediate end to invasive wars, imperial aspirations, domestic spying, crushing taxes, meddling in the affairs of other countries and a stable currency to name but a few.

I can get behind most of that. But I still don't agree with your take on social engineering as it applies to our discussion.

Re:Warm isn't it?
Friday, July 13 2012 @ 09:18 PM CDT

Re:Warm isn't it?
Friday, July 13 2012 @ 10:06 PM CDT

Just shows
Anything Goes !!

jarvo

Re:Warm isn't it?
Friday, July 13 2012 @ 10:08 PM CDT

Never mind. This thread was supposed to be about warming, which MoM doesn't believe in anyway.

V.

Re:Warm isn't it?
Friday, July 13 2012 @ 10:08 PM CDT

Quote by: Jarvoid Just shows Anything Goes !! jarvo

Re:Warm isn't it?
Friday, July 13 2012 @ 10:16 PM CDT

Quote by: Dadai.2 Quote by: Jarvoid Just shows Anything Goes !! jarvo

By the way, that's Cole Porter singing (okay, so his voice sounds like mine without reverb, but what the hell...)

Re:Warm isn't it?
Friday, July 13 2012 @ 10:24 PM CDT

Quote by: michaeljayklein Quote by: Dadai.2 Quote by: Jarvoid Just shows Anything Goes !! jarvo By the way, that's Cole Porter singing (okay, so his voice sounds like mine without reverb, but what the hell...)

Michael,
I thought this comment/Porter song would get a response from you. I didn't know that was Porter singing. Thanks...

Re:Warm isn't it?
Friday, July 13 2012 @ 11:51 PM CDT

http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/blm-hopes-to-keep-cows-out-of-pinedale-emissions-plan/article_3e45933d-9d80-5383-9c0c-c5162d853b1d.html

gov't efficiency...

Starting next month, the Environmental Protection Agency will designate the Upper Green River valley as being in “nonattainment” of federal ozone standards, because of natural gas drilling and production in the Jonah and Pinedale Anticline fields. In response, the Wyoming Department of Environmental Quality is drafting an implementation plan to address the air quality concerns.
But once that state plan is enacted, the BLM will have to account for expected emissions from all of its activities in the area, no matter how insignificant. And that’s where the cows come in.

...once the state implementation plan takes effect, the BLM would have to find out exactly how many cattle are munching grass on federal land – and how much methane they subsequently release.

one commenter asks -
What's next? Counting Taco Bell customer farts?

Re:Warm isn't it?
Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 02:00 AM CDT

LOL, talking to any American conservative about anything is a true waste of resources as this thread exemplifies. So here's some comedy:

Jay Leno -- "According to NASA, the world will not come to an end for another 4 billion years – or about the same time your 401(k) comes back."