Rockin keys
Tuesday, September 18 2012 @ 03:19 PM CDT

This is a request for a collaboration for any of our
Funk rockin keyboard players . I m thinking to add
key player to the band and I just want to hear how
the songs the band play would feel with keys or piano.

if you are interested I ll send you mp3 of one of
the songs off of the band rehearsal (recorded on Zoom)
not bad (I hope) and the songs all so simple !

just to feel how this can be sound .. I know the best
way is to do it and call for people to sit in with the
band at the rehearsals ..but I m curious !!

I ll be grateful
Thanks
peace
Feter

Re:Rockin keys
Tuesday, September 18 2012 @ 04:44 PM CDT

The huge problem with keyboard players, particularly piano, is that, unless they have band experience, they want to play it ALL. Winds up weakening everyone's contribution (including their own). And you won't know whether they can play in a real band situation until you've heard them in that situation.

So ..... troll the jams, poach off another band, audition at the practise space.

Sorry.

Re:Rockin keys
Tuesday, September 18 2012 @ 07:41 PM CDT

Quote by: rover101 The huge problem with keyboard players, particularly piano, is that, unless they have band experience, they want to play it ALL. Winds up weakening everyone's contribution (including their own). And you won't know whether they can play in a real band situation until you've heard them in that situation. So ..... troll the jams, poach off another band, audition at the practise space. Sorry.

I totally agree ...its just my curiosity !

Re:Rockin keys
Tuesday, September 18 2012 @ 08:40 PM CDT

Quote by: rover101 The huge problem with keyboard players, particularly piano, is that, unless they have band experience, they want to play it ALL. Winds up weakening everyone's contribution (including their own). And you won't know whether they can play in a real band situation until you've heard them in that situation. So ..... troll the jams, poach off another band, audition at the practise space. Sorry.

Rover, would it be possible to substitute Guitar, Bass, Drum, Vocal, etc...in that first sentence :-) Or do you feel keyboard players are prone to "wanting to play it all". Absolutely no offense, just curious.

Re:Rockin keys
Tuesday, September 18 2012 @ 09:14 PM CDT

Quote by: ktb Quote by: rover101 The huge problem with keyboard players, particularly piano, is that, unless they have band experience, they want to play it ALL. Winds up weakening everyone's contribution (including their own). And you won't know whether they can play in a real band situation until you've heard them in that situation. So ..... troll the jams, poach off another band, audition at the practise space. Sorry. Rover, would it be possible to substitute Guitar, Bass, Drum, Vocal, etc...in that first sentence :-) Or do you feel keyboard players are prone to "wanting to play it all". Absolutely no offense, just curious.

I did a collab on this trackhttp://www.macjams.com/song/37057
and I think it works so well .

I guess to play in any song basically you would ask the guys
in the band you want to jam with ( what you want me to do and
when you want me to come in in the jam ? ) ..this is what I do
anyway ... sometimes never happened (from experience with a band
who organized band jam sessions for two months) some people
just play their guitar (lead) all over the song , well you can
tell there was not any kind of sense of the others in the band .


I guess this is what rover tried to say !

Re:Rockin keys
Wednesday, September 19 2012 @ 08:11 AM CDT

Interesting point touched on here. Back in my band days lo-o-ong ago (when my beard didn't have white hair..... back when I didn't have a beard!) I actually gravitated to rhythm guitar. I liked a lot of funk and disco - not so much the overproduced studio glop that became prominent in the late seventies, but more mid-seventies when the genre was still pulling its energy from funk, Caribbean junkanoo and snappy pop. That was my magic zone.

As I played in groups, I discovered that seemingly everybody wanted to be a lead guitarist or a lead vocalist - not surprisingly, because the girls in the leather jackets and tight jeans don't pay any attention to the rhythm guitarist. At all.

But what makes a song really cook? What gives it its groove? Fortunately, my first band 'The Brothers Bruce' followed that idea, and we knew that, while an individual moment might call for a particular instrument or player to step up front, it meant the others had to step back and keep it simple.

I discovered, as I grew older, that this was exceedingly rare, and, as Rover said, everybody wants to play all lead, all the time.

Anyway, if you're not in any kind of a hurry, I might be interested in trying out some keys. Time is a crush for me, so I stress that this not be a get-it-done-yesterday sort of thing. But it might be fun.

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Re:Rockin keys
Wednesday, September 19 2012 @ 08:38 AM CDT

Find a jazz keyboard player, they know how to be non-obtrusive and know the value of space.

Re:Rockin keys
Wednesday, September 19 2012 @ 12:25 PM CDT

Quote by: mr_mordenus Interesting point touched on here. Back in my band days lo-o-ong ago (when my beard didn't have white hair..... back when I didn't have a beard!) I actually gravitated to rhythm guitar. I liked a lot of funk and disco - not so much the overproduced studio glop that became prominent in the late seventies, but more mid-seventies when the genre was still pulling its energy from funk, Caribbean junkanoo and snappy pop. That was my magic zone. As I played in groups, I discovered that seemingly everybody wanted to be a lead guitarist or a lead vocalist - not surprisingly, because the girls in the leather jackets and tight jeans don't pay any attention to the rhythm guitarist. At all. But what makes a song really cook? What gives it its groove? Fortunately, my first band 'The Brothers Bruce' followed that idea, and we knew that, while an individual moment might call for a particular instrument or player to step up front, it meant the others had to step back and keep it simple. I discovered, as I grew older, that this was exceedingly rare, and, as Rover said, everybody wants to play all lead, all the time. Anyway, if you're not in any kind of a hurry, I might be interested in trying out some keys. Time is a crush for me, so I stress that this not be a get-it-done-yesterday sort of thing. But it might be fun.

no I m not in a hurry ...again I m just curious
I ll send you a message
Thanks
Feter

Re:Rockin keys
Wednesday, September 19 2012 @ 03:59 PM CDT

Rover, would it be possible to substitute Guitar, Bass, Drum, Vocal, etc...in that first sentence :-) Or do you feel keyboard players are prone to "wanting to play it all". Absolutely no offense, just curious.

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I've noticed it worst in keyboard players, but I'm not really talking about the grandstanding aspect of it, It's more a technical problem. Keyboard players CAN play it all, except the drums, and unless they've played in ensemble situations, tend not to be aware that they need to play very differently when there's other people involved. Staying out of the bass player's way is the first problem for someone who practises alone a lot, meshing with guitars the next, deciding the role the keys play within tunes can all be very difficult for even accomplished solo players.