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aclarke
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Registered: 12/30/04
Posts: 1256
Location: Southern, Maine USA
 
Re:Geting tired of this - be honest please!
Friday, January 20 2006 @ 05:59 PM CST

On several occassions I have tried to spotlight songs that I feel are worthy of more attention than they get... and I'll keep doing that. But as far as I can see I am only one of a very small of members that do this regularly.

So rant all you want, if you want things to change you need to take the initiative and help to change it. Hear a song by another artist then go ahead and pimp it in the MJ Chat window, start a forum post... hell, do something. But just don't sit there and complain about it.

As far as leaving comments and constructive criticism- there is a huge difference between just telling someone they suck and offering advice on where and how they might be able to improve their art. I'm all for honest feedback but I'm not at all for telling someone they should just give it all up because I may not like what they are doing. And I absolutely don't see the wrong in telling someone what I like.

"An honest man's pillow is his peace of mind." John Mellencamp
selters
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Registered: 03/03/05
Posts: 211
Location: Oslo, Norway
 
Re:Geting tired of this - be honest please!
Friday, January 20 2006 @ 05:59 PM CST

Im a hypocrit, and i admit it. What does that make me?

Check out my latest song: A future that is carrying your weight
Rollo
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Registered: 11/13/04
Posts: 381
Location: Guarda, Portugal
 
Re:Geting tired of this - be honest please!
Friday, January 20 2006 @ 06:00 PM CST

Quote by: screaming.org
If most people here are living by the golden rule (hypothetically) it would follow, from observation, that most people here must want others to adore them.



Good point.

I had a Mac and I went back!
screamalexz
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Registered: 11/05/05
Posts: 1172
Location: Kirkland, WA usa
 
Re:Geting tired of this - be honest please!
Friday, January 20 2006 @ 06:03 PM CST

Quote by: aclarke
On several occassions I have tried to spotlight songs that I feel are worthy of more attention than they get... and I'll keep doing that. But as far as I can see I am only one of a very small of members that do this regularly.

So rant all you want, if you want things to change you need to take the initiative and help to change it. Hear a song by another artist then go ahead and pimp it in the MJ Chat window, start a forum post... hell, do something. But just don't sit there and complain about it.

As far as leaving comments and constructive criticism- there is a huge difference between just telling someone they suck and offering advice on where and how they might be able to improve their art. I'm all for honest feedback but I'm not at all for telling someone they should just give it all up because I may not like what they are doing. And I absolutely don't see the wrong in telling someone what I like.


yes, telling someone to give up is stupid. i've been told to stop playing a million times, told i suck and even to go kill myself. then i found this site, where i got honest feedback with out simply tearing me down.. and look how far i've come and i'm still pushing.

I'm no musician, just hopelessly in love.
Rollo
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Registered: 11/13/04
Posts: 381
Location: Guarda, Portugal
 
Re:Geting tired of this - be honest please!
Friday, January 20 2006 @ 06:04 PM CST

Quote by: selters
Im a hypocrit, and i admit it. What does that make me?



Laughing Out Loud

I had a Mac and I went back!
screamalexz
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Registered: 11/05/05
Posts: 1172
Location: Kirkland, WA usa
 
Re:Geting tired of this - be honest please!
Friday, January 20 2006 @ 06:06 PM CST

Quote by: Rollo
Quote by: DOS
Quote by: Rollo


i never saw a comment saying "it's horrible"


P.S. - i vote for the aleatory review method.



oh yeah...Heres a song of mine someone has written something negitive.

Authored by: gkeller on Thu, 11 Aug 2005 02:00:08 -0500
this is shit

i laughed... hard.
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Well, I kind of Agree with him..the song was bad.

-Kevin






Props for him. At least he was honest. But what i see the most is bad songs with people saying "good work, nice song". How the hell can a guy improve if no one tells him how bad he is?


i think people will say when a song needs work. they may not say it's bad but will say what needs to be improved on.. my own music is a huge example of this. that's why i love mj it's the reason i've improved. so i'd strongly argue with you on this point. because i find that mj gives me alot of good feedback that helps me. maybe you don't recieve the same constructive feedback. but my experience has been different.

I'm no musician, just hopelessly in love.
Rollo
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Registered: 11/13/04
Posts: 381
Location: Guarda, Portugal
 
Re:Geting tired of this - be honest please!
Friday, January 20 2006 @ 06:07 PM CST

Quote by: screamalexz

yes, telling someone to give up is stupid. i've been told to stop playing a million times, told i suck and even to go kill myself. then i found this site, where i got honest feedback with out simply tearing me down.. and look how far i've come and i'm still pushing.



Sorry man, but most times this site don't make you a good musician. This site makes you PRESUME you are.

I had a Mac and I went back!
Rollo
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Registered: 11/13/04
Posts: 381
Location: Guarda, Portugal
 
Re:Geting tired of this - be honest please!
Friday, January 20 2006 @ 06:15 PM CST

Quote by: screamalexz

i think people will say when a song needs work. they may not say it's bad but will say what needs to be improved on.. my own music is a huge example of this. that's why i love mj it's the reason i've improved. so i'd strongly argue with you on this point. because i find that mj gives me alot of good feedback that helps me. maybe you don't recieve the same constructive feedback. but my experience has been different.



I'm not complaining about the feedback i've been receiving. I'm complaining about some feedbacks i see... full of hypocrisy and deafness.

I had a Mac and I went back!
selters
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Registered: 03/03/05
Posts: 211
Location: Oslo, Norway
 
Re:Geting tired of this - be honest please!
Friday, January 20 2006 @ 06:17 PM CST

Quote "Sorry man, but most times this site don't make you a good musician. This site makes you PRESUME you are." And i think that this is good!!!

Check out my latest song: A future that is carrying your weight
 
screamalexz
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Registered: 11/05/05
Posts: 1172
Location: Kirkland, WA usa
 
Re:Geting tired of this - be honest please!
Friday, January 20 2006 @ 06:29 PM CST

Quote by: Rollo
Quote by: screamalexz

yes, telling someone to give up is stupid. i've been told to stop playing a million times, told i suck and even to go kill myself. then i found this site, where i got honest feedback with out simply tearing me down.. and look how far i've come and i'm still pushing.



Sorry man, but most times this site don't make you a good musician. This site makes you PRESUME you are.


guess we're both seeing more of different sides of this site.

I'm no musician, just hopelessly in love.