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Hits: 1965
Comments: 50
Votes: 26
Plays: 335
Last Played: May 22, 2008 - 01:23:02 AM
Downloads: 98
Fans: 11
Uploaded: Jul 05, 2005 - 10:07:02 PM
Last Updated: Jul 08, 2005 - 05:19:28 PM



Description:
Just a tune that makes me happy.

Alimar suggested I add some notes about my process here, which I think is a good
idea, so allow me to try to analyze how I made this. Not easy for me to do this
without being a bit long winded, so bear with me!

Keep in mind that all I'm using are loops here, having no virtual instruments or
means of recording real ones.

I had a few bottom line concepts I was aiming for. I wanted to make something that
I would love to play in my dream band, which means great drumming, rocking guitar
grooves, highly danceable and with a lot of changes, among other things.

Being a drummer, I pieced together many of the drum parts (using "Drums on Demand"
beats) first. 75% of those beats didn't make the final cut, but I wanted a large pool
to choose from while composing.

I also sought as many rocking guitar parts as I could, which seem oddly scarce among
my (considerable) loop library. I found about 20 guitar parts that sounded good,
and narrowed them to the 8 that fit the drums best.

With the guitar/drums combos I liked, I had enough to build the framework for the song,
and I finished the underpainting, if you will, placing the parts generally where I wanted
them to go. The first half introduces the three main grooves so that in the second I
could extend on them.

It was at least 20 passes of refinement at that point. Finding basslines that fit (quite
the challenge), changing the lengths of the parts, adding transitions, layering more
textures on top, adding some sound effects here and there, and twiddling the levels,
effects and panning.

Most of the work here was in trying to locate loops and loop combinations that fit my
aesthetic goals. In the end, there are only 70 different loops in the final mix, and many
hundreds more that I considered and removed.

I'm pleased with the results and I hope you like it too. I would love to see a real band
cover this one live, especially one with me playing drums. :)

Hardware:
Mac G4

Software:
Soundtrack
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A wild ride... &mdash 07/05/05 - 10:31:24 PM
I love the way it comes back to the simple guitar rhythm
and that little Hawaiian twang all juxtaposed to the heavy
crazy electronica rock opera you have created. Whoa.

It made me happy too.

Jack

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A wild ride... &mdash 07/05/05 - 10:57:44 PM
Excellent, I'm glad that juxtaposition worked for you. Thanks Jack!

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Lots going on here &mdash 07/05/05 - 10:32:33 PM
Fun piece, PV. Not my genre, so I can't really make
suggestions or criticism other than to say I enjoyed this
piece, the construction, the repeats, the variation, the joy.
Excellent.

8-8-7-8

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Lots going on here &mdash 07/05/05 - 10:55:00 PM
Thank you atwood, I'm glad you enjoyed this!

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rock n' roll genre blender &mdash 07/05/05 - 10:33:21 PM
diggin the full-on rock parts, some serious kick. at times this
is folk (kill me), rock, & a smidgen of electronica. kool
upbeat drive. i aint votin til you tell us how much are loops ;)

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rock n' roll genre blender &mdash 07/05/05 - 10:44:29 PM
Heh, fair enough! I'll tell you right now, the whole thing is made of loops. I
tried to layer in ways that merge them, but you might still recognize some.
The drums were painstakingly pieced together, the rest was a bit easier.

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i voted.. &mdash 07/06/05 - 07:16:49 PM
don't let peeps around here give you shit about the loops :P

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i voted.. &mdash 07/08/05 - 03:16:02 PM
he heh, thank you _!

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lots of nice looping &mdash 07/05/05 - 10:59:26 PM
for sure . . .
Very creative

There was so much stuff in there

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lots of nice looping &mdash 07/05/05 - 11:12:29 PM
Cool, thanks for listening, Bill!

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Really Upbeat! &mdash 07/06/05 - 06:04:26 AM
I might listen to this song for a long while.

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Really Upbeat! &mdash 07/06/05 - 11:59:07 AM
Thank you for the compliment, abstract! Nice to know this comes across as upbeat.

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daring stuff &mdash 07/06/05 - 12:10:08 PM
Loops or no loops I like it .
Its mad and upbeat and shows good knowledge of different styles and grooves.
I could learn a lot from your daring.


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daring stuff &mdash 07/06/05 - 12:20:27 PM
Glad you like this, cormac! Thanks for listening and commenting, much appreciated.

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NICE GROOVE SLIP SLOP! &mdash 07/06/05 - 12:34:09 PM
Nice jibulation even though it's only done with loops! Can't say to many bad things about loops! I do enjoy Fruit Loops with Vitamin D milk and water squuezed from an ol' shoe! I did add this to the favorites list! The question is when you use loops is this considered cheating musically? I am more of a purist and like to strangle a rabid animal on occasion but that doesn't make me a killer does it? Maybe just a super hero protector of rabid vengence! Kill or be killed my tickle feaverd friend!

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NICE GROOVE SLIP SLOP! &mdash 07/06/05 - 12:44:12 PM
I believe you have chosen the proper screen name for yourself, bizarre. I need
to ask alley-oop about you. However, I (almost) always enjoy reading your
energetic comments, these above included.

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NICE GROOVE SLIP SLOP! &mdash 07/06/05 - 01:51:10 PM
Very entertaining tune Mr. Vortex. Highly enjoyable.
Yes, Mr. Atwood, Mr Bizarre is aptly named. He speaks a language all his
own. And is a bundle of energy.
Mr. Bizarre, is it cheating to use mind-altering substances to put together
your musical endeavors?
Mr. Bizarre, when you think of how a song's contruction might be cheating,
aren't you only just cheating your ears?

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SLIPPITY SLOP! &mdash 07/06/05 - 05:11:48 PM
Almost always enjoy? Damn you should like it all Two way Tommy and
the tortured wildabeast! As for the mind altering substances! It is fair game
if the instruments are being played by the musicianin question? In that
case 80 percent of the music written in the past would be cheating wouldn't
now? I would suggest in the future to futher research your debates when
dealing with the Mighty Dr. Bizarre! Stand back kids and stop pissin with
the puppies! Hhahahaha!

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NICE GROOVE SLIP SLOP! &mdash 07/06/05 - 05:03:07 PM
Why thankyou slip slop! I'm glad I can jibble your nibbler on this one!
Stay tuned cause I've only begun with my jarbled knick knocker
shenanigans! I guess the writing is superb! I just like to play everything
myself with a drum machie on certain tracks of course! Just pondering a
question here in the land of the broken twinkie! Raise your goblet for we
have another musical masterbator! Picklr krocken tune belly eraser of luv!

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NICE GROOVE SLIP SLOP! &mdash 07/06/05 - 12:44:20 PM
Heh, thanks for commenting bizarrely! Yes, of course it's 'cheating' to use loops. But thank god I've got 'em! Can you imagine the time and effort it would have taken to write, perform, record and mix this without loops? All the musicians I'd have to gather, teach the music to... the recording fees... yes, this is cheating, but all I care about is the end result; if it sounds good, the means of making it don't matter too much to me. Thanx B!

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Tis a happy tune! &mdash 07/06/05 - 01:04:24 PM
I wish you would elaborate on your process, though. Give
some hints about what you used to acheive your overall
composition and sound. As an instrumental, it gets
rambling. I hear vocals in my head to this. Got any lyrics?
They would fill in the gaps and make this complete. Nice
job, well done! Driving... and listener friendly!!!

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Tis a happy tune! &mdash 07/06/05 - 01:52:13 PM
That's a good point... I will add some details about my process(soon!). I agree about the rambling; sometimes I just love a groove so much it's hard to let go. I hear guitar solos on top of some of those grooves, but vocals might work as well... I should think about that. Glad you find this driving and happy. Thank you for your input!

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Very cool... &mdash 07/06/05 - 08:28:43 PM
...what can I say? You've got the touch. Terrific construction
here. Compelling and dynamic, never boring. Keep it up.

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Very cool... &mdash 07/06/05 - 08:38:58 PM
...what can I say? You've got the touch. Terrific construction
here. Compelling and dynamic, never boring. Keep it up.

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Sounded So Nice... &mdash 07/07/05 - 10:47:05 AM
I commented twice!

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Sounded So Nice... &mdash 07/07/05 - 02:34:03 PM
Heh heh, thank you AquilA! At over 5 minutes, I was a bit afraid that it would be too long, so I'm glad you find this compelling and never boring. I had a lot of fun making this!

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Cool. &mdash 07/06/05 - 10:07:45 PM
Cool stuff. Me likey.

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Cool. &mdash 07/07/05 - 02:36:11 PM
Awesome. Thank you, Deputy!

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shaat. &mdash 07/06/05 - 10:39:59 PM
someones shreddin' that geetar hard. Like it. Well played.
Sounds like a bunch of genres come together in this one.
Like a buffet of sounds.......and I'm goin back for seconds.

Senor Setah

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shaat. &mdash 07/07/05 - 02:39:15 PM
Glad you like this buffet; feel free to come back anytime you get hungry. Thanks Mr. S!

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NIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! &mdash 07/07/05 - 05:45:28 PM
Very cool and I like how there is nothing like this track on the site. I dig it!!!!

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NIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! &mdash 07/16/05 - 12:10:08 AM
Right on, thank you Drew!

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Good work! &mdash 07/07/05 - 08:50:35 PM
The rock parts of your song would make a nice game
soundtrack. Several racing games have a similar sound to
them. Fast paced drums, moving forward relentlessly.


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Good work! &mdash 07/16/05 - 12:03:11 AM
Yes, I know what you mean about the games... the Wipeout and Gran
Turismo games come to mind. Thanks cbuchner1!

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I'm exhausted! &mdash 07/08/05 - 03:24:12 PM
but in a good way - feel like i've been on a musical journey
through yer brain.. nice track, liked how it all comes full
circle at the end.

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I'm exhausted! &mdash 07/16/05 - 12:08:15 AM
Heh... same here. If you can believe it, I just submitted one, Future Shock,
which is yet more exhausting. Thanks stevec!

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Nice Rock! &mdash 07/08/05 - 10:08:47 PM
Rock Nice. Good work.

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Nice Rock! &mdash 07/16/05 - 12:13:38 AM
You Thankt.

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I Love the artwork &mdash 07/09/05 - 07:22:09 AM
And I loved the drums and reading how you did it all.

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I Love the artwork &mdash 07/16/05 - 12:15:46 AM
Cool, thank you very much for listening and commenting, wolf. I'm happy
you like my song art.

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Rocking! &mdash 07/10/05 - 04:31:18 PM
Caught me off guard with the intro. Like the phased drum
fill... Never thought of that. I'll have to use that tecnique
sometime. Rocking stuff, nice blend of hard rocking sounds
and synth fillings.


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Rocking! &mdash 07/16/05 - 12:18:10 AM
I appreciate your thoughts eDrew, thanks!

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Thank you &mdash 07/11/05 - 12:23:00 PM
Drew Kopr, cbuchner1, stevec, breezer, The Dancing Wolf, and eDrew for listening and commenting. Very much appreciated!

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yes... &mdash 07/13/05 - 01:11:55 PM
Very good track!
thanks

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yes... &mdash 07/16/05 - 12:00:30 AM
Right on, thanks for listening biogox!

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Man, this is cool! &mdash 07/18/05 - 04:14:14 PM
PV, you're a genius! :-) This even beats the previous
track of yours that I rated. Nothing more to add.
9898 and I'm a fan.

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Man, this is cool! &mdash 07/18/05 - 05:42:34 PM
Heh heh, awesome! Thanks Ep, I'm so glad you like this!

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Whooooah! &mdash 07/23/05 - 07:12:36 AM
Awesome and interesting for the entire 5 minutes and 27
seconds!
Loved the drums!
Kick-ass!

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Whooooah! &mdash 07/23/05 - 01:44:00 PM
Cool, thank you Einar!

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incredible &mdash 06/20/07 - 10:36:38 PM
the drums are out there.. I like all the positioning of different sounds. the instrumentation sounds like a well rehearsed band. There are a few part where I think more bass would work, but considering this is a composition of sound It works itself out. good groove like always the treat is the final sound!

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