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Just a tune that makes me happy.

Alimar suggested I add some notes about my process here, which I think is a good
idea, so allow me to try to analyze how I made this. Not easy for me to do this
without being a bit long winded, so bear with me!

Keep in mind that all I'm using are loops here, having no virtual instruments or
means of recording real ones.

I had a few bottom line concepts I was aiming for. I wanted to make something that
I would love to play in my dream band, which means great drumming, rocking guitar
grooves, highly danceable and with a lot of changes, among other things.

Being a drummer, I pieced together many of the drum parts (using "Drums on Demand"
beats) first. 75% of those beats didn't make the final cut, but I wanted a large pool
to choose from while composing.

I also sought as many rocking guitar parts as I could, which seem oddly scarce among
my (considerable) loop library. I found about 20 guitar parts that sounded good,
and narrowed them to the 8 that fit the drums best.

With the guitar/drums combos I liked, I had enough to build the framework for the song,
and I finished the underpainting, if you will, placing the parts generally where I wanted
them to go. The first half introduces the three main grooves so that in the second I
could extend on them.

It was at least 20 passes of refinement at that point. Finding basslines that fit (quite
the challenge), changing the lengths of the parts, adding transitions, layering more
textures on top, adding some sound effects here and there, and twiddling the levels,
effects and panning.

Most of the work here was in trying to locate loops and loop combinations that fit my
aesthetic goals. In the end, there are only 70 different loops in the final mix, and many
hundreds more that I considered and removed.

I'm pleased with the results and I hope you like it too. I would love to see a real band
cover this one live, especially one with me playing drums. :)
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Hits: 2449
Comments: 50
Fans: 11
Plays: 339
Downloads: 129
Votes: 26
Uploaded: Jul 05, 2005 - 10:07:02 PM
Last Updated: Jul 08, 2005 - 05:19:28 PM Last Played: Oct 12, 2009 - 04:32:17 PM
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Comments
said 1604 days ago (July 5th, 2005)
A wild ride...
I love the way it comes back to the simple guitar rhythm
and that little Hawaiian twang all juxtaposed to the heavy
crazy electronica rock opera you have created. Whoa.

It made me happy too.

Jack
perceptualvortex said 1604 days ago (July 5th, 2005)
A wild ride...
Excellent, I'm glad that juxtaposition worked for you. Thanks Jack!
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Tom Atwood said 1604 days ago (July 5th, 2005)
Lots going on here
Fun piece, PV. Not my genre, so I can't really make
suggestions or criticism other than to say I enjoyed this
piece, the construction, the repeats, the variation, the joy.
Excellent.

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perceptualvortex said 1604 days ago (July 5th, 2005)
Lots going on here
Thank you atwood, I'm glad you enjoyed this!
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_nderscore said 1604 days ago (July 5th, 2005)
rock n' roll genre blender
diggin the full-on rock parts, some serious kick. at times this
is folk (kill me), rock, & a smidgen of electronica. kool
upbeat drive. i aint votin til you tell us how much are loops ;)
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perceptualvortex said 1604 days ago (July 5th, 2005)
rock n' roll genre blender
Heh, fair enough! I'll tell you right now, the whole thing is made of loops. I
tried to layer in ways that merge them, but you might still recognize some.
The drums were painstakingly pieced together, the rest was a bit easier.
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_nderscore said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
i voted..
don't let peeps around here give you shit about the loops :P
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perceptualvortex said 1602 days ago (July 8th, 2005)
i voted..
he heh, thank you _!
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thetiler said 1604 days ago (July 5th, 2005)
lots of nice looping
for sure . . .
Very creative

There was so much stuff in there
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perceptualvortex said 1604 days ago (July 5th, 2005)
lots of nice looping
Cool, thanks for listening, Bill!
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abstractreality said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
Really Upbeat!
I might listen to this song for a long while.
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perceptualvortex said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
Really Upbeat!
Thank you for the compliment, abstract! Nice to know this comes across as upbeat.
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cormacbrenock said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
daring stuff
Loops or no loops I like it .
Its mad and upbeat and shows good knowledge of different styles and grooves.
I could learn a lot from your daring.

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perceptualvortex said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
daring stuff
Glad you like this, cormac! Thanks for listening and commenting, much appreciated.
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said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
NICE GROOVE SLIP SLOP!
Nice jibulation even though it's only done with loops! Can't say to many bad things about loops! I do enjoy Fruit Loops with Vitamin D milk and water squuezed from an ol' shoe! I did add this to the favorites list! The question is when you use loops is this considered cheating musically? I am more of a purist and like to strangle a rabid animal on occasion but that doesn't make me a killer does it? Maybe just a super hero protector of rabid vengence! Kill or be killed my tickle feaverd friend!
Tom Atwood said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
NICE GROOVE SLIP SLOP!
I believe you have chosen the proper screen name for yourself, bizarre. I need
to ask alley-oop about you. However, I (almost) always enjoy reading your
energetic comments, these above included.

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alley-oop said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
NICE GROOVE SLIP SLOP!
Very entertaining tune Mr. Vortex. Highly enjoyable.
Yes, Mr. Atwood, Mr Bizarre is aptly named. He speaks a language all his
own. And is a bundle of energy.
Mr. Bizarre, is it cheating to use mind-altering substances to put together
your musical endeavors?
Mr. Bizarre, when you think of how a song's contruction might be cheating,
aren't you only just cheating your ears?
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said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
SLIPPITY SLOP!
Almost always enjoy? Damn you should like it all Two way Tommy and
the tortured wildabeast! As for the mind altering substances! It is fair game
if the instruments are being played by the musicianin question? In that
case 80 percent of the music written in the past would be cheating wouldn't
now? I would suggest in the future to futher research your debates when
dealing with the Mighty Dr. Bizarre! Stand back kids and stop pissin with
the puppies! Hhahahaha!
said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
NICE GROOVE SLIP SLOP!
Why thankyou slip slop! I'm glad I can jibble your nibbler on this one!
Stay tuned cause I've only begun with my jarbled knick knocker
shenanigans! I guess the writing is superb! I just like to play everything
myself with a drum machie on certain tracks of course! Just pondering a
question here in the land of the broken twinkie! Raise your goblet for we
have another musical masterbator! Picklr krocken tune belly eraser of luv!
perceptualvortex said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
NICE GROOVE SLIP SLOP!
Heh, thanks for commenting bizarrely! Yes, of course it's 'cheating' to use loops. But thank god I've got 'em! Can you imagine the time and effort it would have taken to write, perform, record and mix this without loops? All the musicians I'd have to gather, teach the music to... the recording fees... yes, this is cheating, but all I care about is the end result; if it sounds good, the means of making it don't matter too much to me. Thanx B!
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said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
Tis a happy tune!
I wish you would elaborate on your process, though. Give
some hints about what you used to acheive your overall
composition and sound. As an instrumental, it gets
rambling. I hear vocals in my head to this. Got any lyrics?
They would fill in the gaps and make this complete. Nice
job, well done! Driving... and listener friendly!!!
perceptualvortex said 1604 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
Tis a happy tune!
That's a good point... I will add some details about my process(soon!). I agree about the rambling; sometimes I just love a groove so much it's hard to let go. I hear guitar solos on top of some of those grooves, but vocals might work as well... I should think about that. Glad you find this driving and happy. Thank you for your input!
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AquilA said 1603 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
Very cool...
...what can I say? You've got the touch. Terrific construction
here. Compelling and dynamic, never boring. Keep it up.
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AquilA said 1603 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
Very cool...
...what can I say? You've got the touch. Terrific construction
here. Compelling and dynamic, never boring. Keep it up.
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AquilA said 1603 days ago (July 7th, 2005)
Sounded So Nice...
I commented twice!
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perceptualvortex said 1603 days ago (July 7th, 2005)
Sounded So Nice...
Heh heh, thank you AquilA! At over 5 minutes, I was a bit afraid that it would be too long, so I'm glad you find this compelling and never boring. I had a lot of fun making this!
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DeputyDoofy said 1603 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
Cool.
Cool stuff. Me likey.
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perceptualvortex said 1603 days ago (July 7th, 2005)
Cool.
Awesome. Thank you, Deputy!
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Mr. S said 1603 days ago (July 6th, 2005)
shaat.
someones shreddin' that geetar hard. Like it. Well played.
Sounds like a bunch of genres come together in this one.
Like a buffet of sounds.......and I'm goin back for seconds.

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perceptualvortex said 1603 days ago (July 7th, 2005)
shaat.
Glad you like this buffet; feel free to come back anytime you get hungry. Thanks Mr. S!
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Drew Kopr said 1603 days ago (July 7th, 2005)
NIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Very cool and I like how there is nothing like this track on the site. I dig it!!!!
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perceptualvortex said 1594 days ago (July 16th, 2005)
NIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Right on, thank you Drew!
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cbuchner1 said 1602 days ago (July 7th, 2005)
Good work!
The rock parts of your song would make a nice game
soundtrack. Several racing games have a similar sound to
them. Fast paced drums, moving forward relentlessly.

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perceptualvortex said 1594 days ago (July 16th, 2005)
Good work!
Yes, I know what you mean about the games... the Wipeout and Gran
Turismo games come to mind. Thanks cbuchner1!
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stevec said 1602 days ago (July 8th, 2005)
I'm exhausted!
but in a good way - feel like i've been on a musical journey
through yer brain.. nice track, liked how it all comes full
circle at the end.
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perceptualvortex said 1594 days ago (July 16th, 2005)
I'm exhausted!
Heh... same here. If you can believe it, I just submitted one, Future Shock,
which is yet more exhausting. Thanks stevec!
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breezer said 1601 days ago (July 8th, 2005)
Nice Rock!
Rock Nice. Good work.
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perceptualvortex said 1594 days ago (July 16th, 2005)
Nice Rock!
You Thankt.
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The Dancing Wolf said 1601 days ago (July 9th, 2005)
I Love the artwork
And I loved the drums and reading how you did it all.
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perceptualvortex said 1594 days ago (July 16th, 2005)
I Love the artwork
Cool, thank you very much for listening and commenting, wolf. I'm happy
you like my song art.
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eDrew said 1600 days ago (July 10th, 2005)
Rocking!
Caught me off guard with the intro. Like the phased drum
fill... Never thought of that. I'll have to use that tecnique
sometime. Rocking stuff, nice blend of hard rocking sounds
and synth fillings.

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perceptualvortex said 1594 days ago (July 16th, 2005)
Rocking!
I appreciate your thoughts eDrew, thanks!
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perceptualvortex said 1599 days ago (July 11th, 2005)
Thank you
Drew Kopr, cbuchner1, stevec, breezer, The Dancing Wolf, and eDrew for listening and commenting. Very much appreciated!
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biogox said 1597 days ago (July 13th, 2005)
yes...
Very good track!
thanks
perceptualvortex said 1594 days ago (July 16th, 2005)
yes...
Right on, thanks for listening biogox!
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Epileptic Gibbon said 1592 days ago (July 18th, 2005)
Man, this is cool!
PV, you're a genius! :-) This even beats the previous
track of yours that I rated. Nothing more to add.
9898 and I'm a fan.
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perceptualvortex said 1592 days ago (July 18th, 2005)
Man, this is cool!
Heh heh, awesome! Thanks Ep, I'm so glad you like this!
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Einarus said 1587 days ago (July 23rd, 2005)
Whooooah!
Awesome and interesting for the entire 5 minutes and 27
seconds!
Loved the drums!
Kick-ass!
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perceptualvortex said 1587 days ago (July 23rd, 2005)
Whooooah!
Cool, thank you Einar!
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said 889 days ago (June 20th, 2007)
incredible
the drums are out there.. I like all the positioning of different sounds. the instrumentation sounds like a well rehearsed band. There are a few part where I think more bass would work, but considering this is a composition of sound It works itself out. good groove like always the treat is the final sound!
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