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Amazing how electric guitar has added dimensions to this track. This is the second version of Revolution's Son; here are the changes: Darren Chapman's guitars, featuring very cool hits throughout and a solo during the ending vamp fade (huge thanks to him on tackling this complicated tune); remixing (and boosting) Anton's bass, bringing out some cool transitions; a new backwards organ/Moog synth layered solo and a newly mix bass part that creates a childhood duet in the "Freedom" section; an overall slight compression and reverb to the mix. Alimar's re-engineering of Anton's vocals remained unchanged from last version, since they were already perfect.
It was wonderful working with Darren. His guitar tracks are the first collaboration I've done with anyone in which I ended up keeping all of his performance without editing out, tweaking timing, cutting or pasting a single note. He inspired me to rework several sections in the mix to equal the energy his playing provided.
It is a continued joy to work on songs with my son and we hope to have a few more finished before the end of the year. We both think this tune and its lyrics have special meaning due to our father-son collaboration. In honor of this, I have used a photo I took of him recently performing at the Knitting Factory in Manhattan. (Happy Birthday!)
Vocals: Anton (twonicus); Tobin (backing vocals)
Organs/keyboards: Tobin
Guitars: Darren Chapman (dchapman)
Basses: Anton (twonicus)
Drums: D.O.D, Platinum Drum samples - edited by Tobin
Lyrics: Tobin
Other AUDIOCRACY songs so far:
Puzzle City
When The Future Comes
Speak Truth To Power
Other collaborations with Anton (twonicus):
Queen Crimson
Can't Complain
Pilgrim of the Return
Lyrics:
REVOLUTION'S SON:
Did you miss it?
Did it pass you by?
Raise me up. Raise me up, Revolution.
I dreamed it
in childhood
a simple thing
inside me
like fathers
with eyes that sting:
a child, a cradle, a mother sings,
a hero, a story, an opening...
Raise me, raise me, raise me.
Raise me, raise me, raise me up.
Lullabies and bullets.
Pens and shiny swords.
Can you ever not feel it?
Blood and the umbilical cord,
to be the one, the true son,
with eyes like knives and a Mother's song,
a better man, a Son of Revolution?
All the hopes,
can I let them down?
All the stars I have counted,
what is their sum?
All the lives,
accumulation
within me. What am I waiting for?
Within in me. What am I waiting for?
What am I waiting for?
What are we waiting for?
Pull it down from the mountain.
Read it off of parchment clean.
Reflected there, from the blood in the streets.
How many times must it repeat, repeat, repeat?
Repeat?
All the changing,
did it pass you by?
Raise me up! Raise me up!
Freedom, freedom come alive.
Freedom is a dream.
Freedom is a dance.
Freedom is a song.
Freedom is a chance.
In the outlaw love of a Mother,
beyond every law is the cradle.
Rebellion is a lullaby
to the boy inside, the boy inside.
Beyond every law of the father
is the tearing off of the labels
for the boy inside to realize
the boy inside, the boy inside.
Raise me up! Raise me up!
Don't miss the changes...
Don't miss the changes... the change is you, the change is me.
Don't miss the changes...
Hardware:
Keyboards: Roland a90ex 88-key controller
Guitars: double-tracked Fender American Strat
Bass: Olympia 5-string bass
Mic: EV 757
Mac G4; MOTU 2408; Mackie board
Software:
GB 2: used for all organ/keyboard sounds; used by Alimar for re-engineering vocals
Logic: recording all guitars; added GB2 amps in final mix
Digital Performer: recording all vocals and bass; original mix
Waves: bass effects
Live 4: drum editing
D.O.D./Platinum Drums: drumming
AMG ExpansionPack: extra organ patches
Alimar: took original vocal mix and layered in all the separate tracks (I think there were 7 vocals tracks) to create a far more vital sound
Peak: 2-track final mastering
PLEASE TURN UP VOLUME
The original version can be found here: http://www.macjams.com/song/11303
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Who? &mdash 08/14/05 - 02:07:21 PM
These great harmonies and arrangements with the energic drums, a wall of sound together with the almost musical genre melody lines reminds me of the Who. Expecting the guitarist to do that armrolling trick Pete Townshend use to do.
Great performances on every part.
Hope you don't smash your equipment after the show though;)
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A good song &mdash 09/20/05 - 11:24:16 AM
Version 2 &mdash 08/14/05 - 02:40:54 PM
The addition of Darren's guitar, and new synth and organ
embellishmnents truly "round" out this compostion to
express the artform of "Prog" rock. The bass is a little
more evident, and the the additional production has a
brought a completeness to Rev's Son.
Bravo to you Darren on wearing your "prog" hat on this
one. Not too flashy, but the solo at the end is, as we call it
here in WNY, is "tastey".
Great follow up, Tobin. Excellent work Twon, Tobin, and
DC! [ Reply to This ]
Version 2 &mdash 08/16/05 - 09:21:32 AM
Al, thanks again for your interest, ears, time and talents on this one. I know the
vocals are hotter in version one and I encourage anyone to listen to it to get the
full experience of your exquisite re-engineering of the voices. I am glad you
like the newer version, with the boosted bass and tasty guitar hits, it is more of
a prog rock expression. Mainly, Al, thanks for caring about the music so much,
your sort of connection is what makes doing this so much fun. [ Reply to This ]
WOW &mdash 08/14/05 - 03:50:00 PM
I love this..
the additions from Darren are excellent.
I love the off beat changing chords and the singing is
fabulous...
Great production..
Fab team work and I expect to hear more!!!
Slimmie
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This was indeed fun. &mdash 08/14/05 - 04:12:29 PM
This was a challenging song with the different instruments
moving in different ways. Keeping out of the way of the
other instruments while adding something new was the
challenge. KISS (Keep it Simple, Stupid!) prevailed.
The final product is now showing the potential that I
envisioned when I heard the song for the first time and
Tobin and I agreed there should be guitar.
I hope everyone enjoys this piece as much as I enjoyed the
collaboration.
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This was indeed fun. &mdash 08/16/05 - 08:37:51 AM
I can't thank you enough. It was a thrill to hear that opening section with guitar.
I completely agree about the guitar bringing out the potential of the piece. I, in
turn, had a great time adding organ and electric piano to your forthcoming tune,
How Many Times. I hope we can do many more tunes together. I know sections
of this weren't easy to play along to, but you integrated your work perfectly.
Thanks again! [ Reply to This ]
More Dynamic Than Before &mdash 08/14/05 - 06:36:24 PM
I very much like the new guitar additions and overall
production. Very wel done. [ Reply to This ]
Yes! &mdash 08/14/05 - 08:25:07 PM
Magic fingers - real and virtual &mdash 08/14/05 - 11:37:32 PM
Many very subtle and yet very effective alterations in this
version. The style and tone of the guitar slips right in like
magic. One note I failed to make in my comments for the
previous version is a compliment for the drum
programming. The drum kit is worked all around in this
song and is filled with lots of terrific flourishes. Good
drum programming takes a lot of attention to detail,
moreso than any other instrument I think, and when the
details are off it usually sticks out like a sore thumb. The
drums here really rise to meet the high standards called
for by the overall excellence of this piece. [ Reply to This ]
Magic fingers - real and virtual &mdash 08/16/05 - 09:30:23 AM
Thanks for the comments about the drumming. I spent a ton of time finding,
cutting and pasting, splicing, EQing, and lining up hits in Live to fit just the right
way. I wanted a real drummer feel, something virtuoso, like you hear in the best
prog rock tracks, so that the drums would become an instrument as important
as any of the others, not just a groove keeper. Thanks for your careful listening
and encouraging comments. [ Reply to This ]
Great &mdash 08/15/05 - 06:04:21 AM
Lyrics of a masterpiece &mdash 08/15/05 - 12:20:06 PM
For all the great things people can say about the music and
performances on this masterpiece, I still think the lyrics need
special mention for their beauty and power. That they are
song by a father and son team, the son singing the father's
words, makes for a moving experience. Thank you for
continuing to perfect this rather amazing piece of music and
poetry. [ Reply to This ]
epic! &mdash 08/15/05 - 01:37:26 PM
Lyrics of a masterpiece &mdash 08/16/05 - 09:41:45 AM
The lyrics to this song came out of a conversation I had with Troy about the
nature of revolution. There is more conversation about this in the Version One
comment thread. I have always believed that along with the right social-
polticial-economic checks and freedoms, new parenting is the only true way to
effect continuing revolution. It is a thirst, and a belief, that we can pass on to
our sons and daughters. Thanks for taking the time to mine the lyrics. I really
appreciate your focus on lyrics, Del. You keep me in my toes. [ Reply to This ]
Sounds like the 70`s &mdash 08/16/05 - 07:09:05 AM
Reminds me a little bit of the early Genesis or something like that. But, I`m sorry, it`s not nearly as good as stuff like that. It`s a good song, good playing, nice production, pretty good singing but, in my opinion, a little too much constructed.
ninipe [ Reply to This ]
Revolutions &mdash 08/16/05 - 05:01:17 PM
Dang, since my wife and I forgot to have kids, I guess the
new true revolution has started without me. Maybe I can still
find involvement as an uncle? It's amazing how complex this
piece is, both in its components and its variety of performers
and producers. Kudos to every one involved, bringing so
much talent and passion to one piece of music. It is
progessive both in its structure and in its development.
Could've this been done outside of macjams? Maybe - but it
might also represent another revolution that's underway. [ Reply to This ]
Revolutions &mdash 08/23/05 - 09:02:47 AM
Thanks for the wry eye and friendly ear. I consider "parenting" to be a metaphor
to evolving culture thru nurturing and example; I didn't mean to exclude you,
just meant to highlight a missing element from most discussions. I think true
revolution is inside, not merely structural (altho I am a huge fan of Franklin, Sam
Adams, Jefferson, Tom Paine, Madison, Washington and the boys). Thanks for
your patience and attentiveness and nice comments. [ Reply to This ]
Macjammer Renaissance Man &mdash 08/17/05 - 08:46:18 AM
Revolution: second nature to teens, but they need the right
mix of arrogance and innocence. Revolution: what this
country is founded on (the original conservatism: conserve
individual dignity at all costs!) Revolution: Macjammers in
action! I loved the first version, this is better. So great to
hear someone that can rock, that can blues, that can jazz,
that can mellow out, that can showtune, that can twist heads
with abstract complexity, man you do it all. Macjammer
Renaissance Man. Keep 'em comin'! [ Reply to This ]
Macjammer Renaissance Man &mdash 08/24/05 - 06:49:49 AM
Thanks, Spaz. What I really like to do as squish all those styles into a single
song (e.g., Icarus), but doing that is very uncommercial. Maybe part of the
revolution is breaking out of the boxes of prepackaging. I just like pulling from
different places, synthesizing in the structural sense, and pretending the result
is a unique sound. My freshman composition prof pounded the concept of
uniqueness into all of us, which I actually rebelled against (since in 1977 that
meant John Cage type anti-music noise, which was just another way to follow
the crowd, if you ask me), advocating instead a kind of honesty in sound. I just
try and write/play what I hear and feel good afterward. Pretty simple, really.
Thanks again. [ Reply to This ]
This is tight! &mdash 08/19/05 - 06:37:42 AM
And VERY Prog!
I hear a lot of ELP...Greg Lake sort of influence...Bill
Brufordish drums...some bits of Yes...even Kansas, a bit...
The drums in particular seem live and non-
mechanical...even have a bit of Neil Peart to 'em...Mr.
"How-I-relate-to-drums-is-I-hit-them"...(actual quote or
at least paraphrase...)
Having the sense that the track was "built", I'm stunned by
how tightly meshed it is...it ends up sounding like
something someone--not me or anyone I know
personally--but someone could play onstage....
I'm not a big prog listener, and this probably isn't what I'd
normally listen to for pleasure, but I can relate to it being
good in its genre and I can stand back in amazement at
the skills it took to bring it into being...
Ed [ Reply to This ]
This is tight! &mdash 08/24/05 - 07:02:03 AM
Very cool that you thought the whole thing sounded like something 5 guys could
perform on stage, this is exactly the end result I was try for. I had other ideas I
didn't add in just so this could remain a possibly-performed-by-a-group piece,
as is. Thanks for all your other comments too, and thanks for listening to
something outside your normal realm, giving it a chance and listen. Isn't MJ
great? [ Reply to This ]
Liked the original version… &mdash 08/19/05 - 03:01:03 PM
… but this is better. Nuff said. I'm about to send it off
to my radio DJ friend who I hope will like it too.
Power to all you young dudes, and keep proggin'! But
I still don't think it sounds like Genesis, ELP (well,
maybe some of the keyboard sounds are a little
Emerson-like) or even Yes (though more them than
the other two) … it's closest to a Starcastle track for
sure. [ Reply to This ]
Liked the original version… &mdash 08/19/05 - 04:08:05 PM
EG, thanks a ton. Very exciting. I've email Ian and had some nice exchanges. I
hope it can get some play, would be great. I agree with you, the song doesn't
sound Genesis at all. More Kansas than Yes, this new version. Starcastle, I will
have to search out their stuff. Personally, I like that it sounds like my son and I
jamming, with friends joining in to complete the vision. Don't need any more
name dropping than fellow MJers nowadays! [ Reply to This ]
Amazing Production!! &mdash 08/20/05 - 10:14:35 AM
This version is an improvement over an already excellent
previous one. The addition of dchapman's guitar, along
with the additional bass and synth and adjusted mix,
makes this piece shine even more brightly.
The tempo shifts after the beginning section is always a
wonderful surprise to hear -- I really like that transition!
The subsequent transitions offer a great deal of interest,
as well.
The percussion is indeed amazing; very realistic. It must
have taken an incredible amount of work and care to
produce this kind of authenticity. The drums sound very
"warm" and natural.
Very excellent production and performance on ALL fronts.
BRAVO, tutti!
Great picture, too. [ Reply to This ]
Amazing Production!! &mdash 08/23/05 - 08:28:17 AM
Thank you, Mr. C. A major subsection of prog rock is all about the transitions.
My favorite is going into "All the hopes, can I let them down?" In fact, the
transitions of early prog rock informed my own classical pieces I wrote in the
80s, as I searched for ways to create the energy I absorbed listening to Yes, King
Crimson, ELP and others. This track took a ton of time, but when I hear
something it is hard to stop until it sounds kind of like what is in my head. I just
wish it sounded exactly like what i am hearing! Thanks for all of your kind
comments and careful listening. [ Reply to This ]
Very Impressive!! &mdash 08/22/05 - 05:13:15 PM
Excellent production and song writing. I don't know if you
have been likened to Max Webster before? Very similar to
this criminally underrated band. Love the drums dude!!
Have you heard the BFD (fxpansion) drumming software?
Sounds good but might eat up all my 512 Mb Ram!! Will
definately investigate Drums on Demand after lisiening to
your track. [ Reply to This ]
Learning with each song &mdash 08/23/05 - 06:18:34 AM
I love how your songs are a slow unveiling of your thoughts,
like opening your journal and getting special poetry. I learn
something about you, about the world, and about myself, as
I listen and read. Hearing your son sing your words does
indeed make this more special. You have quite a family! [ Reply to This ]
NIce!! &mdash 09/18/05 - 08:32:09 AM
Very prog!! It sounds great!! The hammond organ remember me ELP a little bit. Good work!! [ Reply to This ]
NIce!! &mdash 09/18/05 - 08:32:12 AM
Very prog!! It sounds great!! The hammond organ remember me ELP a little bit. Good work!! [ Reply to This ]
Best of Site &mdash 01/26/06 - 09:04:13 AM
Man, this is the best track on the site so far. I had no idea such great stuff was to be had for free... legally. Rock on, Mueller family! [ Reply to This ]
Yes and yes &mdash 03/24/06 - 08:19:30 PM
Hi tobin.... 1st thanx for making me feel welcome here.... your
comments are as thoughtful and well crafted as your music.... you
don't need anyone here to tell you that you are prolific, with a huge
pallette.... i wanted to get to you before now but your library is huge...
so I'm taking my time with it... but I'm such a Yes fan, and I'm guessing
you have some of their influence here.... anyway i won't wait to tell you
I loved this and now I own it
thanx; Scott.... not that you would need me , but if there's anything I
do that you want or need... ask [ Reply to This ]
Yes and yes &mdash 03/27/06 - 02:49:28 PM
Thanks so much. First, I am a huge Yes fan and, indeed, they will continue to be
both an influence and inspiration when I try and do more Prog tunes. Second,
I'd love to do a track with you. I will email you shortly and suggest some things! [ Reply to This ]
A complex work &mdash 12/05/06 - 07:53:27 PM
This track has so many aspects to it, it's hard to know what to respond to first. The prog rock influences are certainly upfront, and unapologetically so, which is refreshing. I can easily picture Rick Wakeman playing all of your B3 licks, which are so enjoyable. The addition of the guitar work is an excellent choice as well.
This must have taken forever and a day to go from the idea stage to final completion. And you're letting us download it for free! Thank you, Tobin and Anton, and crew, for an excellent track, and a MJ standout. [ Reply to This ]
Rick Wakeman &mdash 03/06/08 - 08:19:32 AM
His organ solo in Roundabout is my favorite moment in all rock history. I also loved it in the 70s when he wore a cape on stage. I always wanted to do that. [ Reply to This ]
as &mdash 12/06/06 - 02:24:59 PM
i check this out while laying in bed i'm reminded of a rock opera, or rock musical on broadway....i'm guessing u have an affinity for this genre....it shows.......fantastic arrangement and lots of energy......great collab! [ Reply to This ]
Rock opera &mdash 03/06/08 - 08:13:12 AM
Thanks for letting us share your bed, if only for a moment. We definitely expend energy on this, and as I re-listen, I really enjoy the bass line. And all the organ layers. Thanks for noticing the arrangement. This project actually came out of a rock opera, so the affinity is almost more a derivative, even tho this track was written just for the CD. [ Reply to This ]
I missed... &mdash 12/06/06 - 11:17:48 PM
...rating and faving this when you first posted this version, T. This is one of my favorite Macjams rock tunes.
Killer vox and harmonies.
Everything about it is so well done.
You know, I love good, melodic instrumentation and arrangements, but you, Alimar, Tadashi Togawa, and eleveneyes, are a cut-above with your drum work. I know its only part of the whole, but drums fascinate me. You guys incorporate some tastiest rhythms in your pieces.
Excellent stuff here, folks! [ Reply to This ]
Alimar, Tadashi Togawa, eleveneyes &mdash 03/06/08 - 08:24:25 AM
Broadway... &mdash 12/30/06 - 07:31:14 AM
...or something. This has a feeling of Opera Rock (or is it Rock Opera). Despite what it's called, I was recently on a cruise that put on some great shows and this song instantly brought me back to those moments. [ Reply to This ]
Great track &mdash 12/30/06 - 04:24:58 PM
which has a strong Crimson meets Genesis feel to me, but it's definitely original. Guitar work is very good, as are the vocals. I enjoyed the small added effects on the vocals a lot. I don't want to think about how much work the drum programming must have been; amazing job there.
Thanks for posting.
Denny [ Reply to This ]
now I have the chance... &mdash 01/01/07 - 10:13:11 PM
...to finally get to listen to Revolution's Son (Part II)
The guitar certainly adds an extra element of depth, as does the keyboards.
I found the introduction has a contemporary structure (insofar as the initial drum pattern is concerned), whereas the harmonic structure is unapologetically 'Prog' :-) Very 'Keith Emerson harmony meets a Yes Structure in the 21st Century, which is why I enjoyed listening to this rendition.
Many Thanks for bringing this piece to my attention Tobin!
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Keith Emerson harmony meets a Yes Structure in the 21st Century &mdash 03/06/08 - 08:25:49 AM
great prog indeed &mdash 01/08/07 - 06:22:05 PM
"Yes", I hear some Yes/Flash style transitions/themes (which I've always liked) Interesting. A progressive tune in true sense. And a Zappa-style guitar to go. Great! [ Reply to This ]
Zappa-style guitar &mdash 03/06/08 - 08:27:31 AM
You're right. I never noticed that until you mentioned it. Darren will think its a groovy comparison, I'm sure. Thanks for the comments. [ Reply to This ]
cool &mdash 01/08/07 - 08:27:33 PM
Dream travel &mdash 01/10/07 - 07:30:39 AM
This song seems to travel around the dream.
Mixed rhythm.
I feel classics and the opera. [ Reply to This ]
Killer harmonies! &mdash 01/28/07 - 07:44:38 PM
Man, this could be Boston! Great track guys. Very of-its-time, the change-ups and the solos work perfectly. Top stuff. [ Reply to This ]
i like this tune &mdash 02/11/07 - 04:14:42 PM
i can't figure out what it reminds me of. there,s a really cool sound going on right now i don't now how to describe. this is very well produced and arranged. i really like your organ playing.
lots of cool stuff in the background.
all around good job. [ Reply to This ]
i really like your organ playing &mdash 03/14/07 - 07:40:55 AM
Thanks. The track started with me playing 2 organ layers and everything grew from there. So many organ details lost in the building, mixing process, I always feel a sense of loss when I relisten, but the addition of everything else is exciting and more than necessary. When we come out with the Box Set, I'll have to include the original organ tracks just for people who like that sort of thing... [ Reply to This ]
My secret addiction! &mdash 03/02/07 - 04:44:16 PM
Wow, very much fun. The performances and production on this really add up to a great classic sound. The only thing missing is a flute somewhere, I think. Rock! [ Reply to This ]
Cheers mates! &mdash 03/23/07 - 08:05:00 PM
Awesome guitar and lead vocal. Your organ playing on this is fantastic. The chord structure and melody in this piece are very well written and brought to life by excellent performances all around. As far as my pinion goes this is a great progressive rock song. [ Reply to This ]
Catching up &mdash 08/30/07 - 10:13:21 AM
I enjoy all your very different styles of compositions .
I enjoy all these changes here . [ Reply to This ]
so good &mdash 02/29/08 - 10:31:58 AM
This is incredibly good! Your music is actually the first prog rock I've ever listened to (I know, I'm green) and I love it! You all have done an excellent job with this album! [ Reply to This ]
Beautiful song &mdash 03/09/08 - 04:40:44 PM
"Beautiful song" In the words of my housemate who has a lot of Genesis CD's.I have to agree with him on this one. I can hear the Genesis, Kansas, and Yes styled 90125 vocals. I like the high harmonies in there. I haven't listened to the previous mixes. This one is quite good. Not sure how to do it but I'd like to hear a little more variation in the texture of the song. Perhaps replace prominent keyboard part with guitar. The drums are brilliant. though I'd like to hear real drums on a piece this rich and complex. Perhaps we'll get a live recording uploaded sometime in the future? The first thing I noticed was the cool picture of your son. Great work! [ Reply to This ]
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Great performances on every part.
Hope you don't smash your equipment after the show though;)
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