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(Praxis Pietatis Melica 1668)
Recorded in my tiled bathroom! . . .huh!
This tune was very challenging for me. Not so much in the playing, but in the recording. I went to great lengths to get the very best recording I could. I say great, for me it was a big effort. But for some of the pros on this site it could of been a piece of cake.
What I mean by that, is that I first went out and bought a hub to extend into my tiled marble bathroom I installed years ago. I needed the hub to make my extensions longer so I could record there.
But to make a long story short, it didn't work, the Windows hub didn't work so I went and bought a mac usb hub and I found out that you loose power with a hub when you are doing audio. So I just used a longer usb cord I bought, it fit from the bathroom to my studio.
Again, things worked so much better not having the hub. When I tried it time and time again the mouse refused to work, I couldn't delete things and the list goes on and on. . .
So here it is, I finally recorded with two condenser mics plugged into my USB Tascam interface. I did that because in the usb tascam 122 there is a much better pre-amp than my noisy Berhinger Mx 1602a.
Lots of blood, sweat and tears in recording on this one!
Hope you like it:)
Bill
Recorded in my tiled bathroom! . . .huh!
This tune was very challenging for me. Not so much in the playing, but in the recording. I went to great lengths to get the very best recording I could. I say great, for me it was a big effort. But for some of the pros on this site it could of been a piece of cake.
What I mean by that, is that I first went out and bought a hub to extend into my tiled marble bathroom I installed years ago. I needed the hub to make my extensions longer so I could record there.
But to make a long story short, it didn't work, the Windows hub didn't work so I went and bought a mac usb hub and I found out that you loose power with a hub when you are doing audio. So I just used a longer usb cord I bought, it fit from the bathroom to my studio.
Again, things worked so much better not having the hub. When I tried it time and time again the mouse refused to work, I couldn't delete things and the list goes on and on. . .
So here it is, I finally recorded with two condenser mics plugged into my USB Tascam interface. I did that because in the usb tascam 122 there is a much better pre-amp than my noisy Berhinger Mx 1602a.
Lots of blood, sweat and tears in recording on this one!
Hope you like it:)
Bill
Hardware:
No hub, thank goodness I was smart to get rid of it for recording.Tascam 122 infterface
2 external condenser mics.
Betsy, my acoustical guitar
My BATHROOM
Software:
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Radio Bikini
Phil Keaggy would like this one. You have great guitar
chops and created a beautiful song. Sonically very good.
Can't say enough for the bathroom tile!
thetiler
Thanks RB, so much for stoppin by and listening!
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The Tiler
Bill,
very nice playing and the "tiler" sound
is superb.
Beautiful.
Cheers
thetiler
Thanks special K :), You sure have a very special talent on the guitar. Hope you
keep having success here at MJ.
Bill
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perceptualvortex
you put into recording it paid off; the natural reverb is awesome! Another great performance!
thetiler
Thanks Perc
It was a great challenge for me to do this. Because I had such problems. I
didn't know that a hub can reap such havock to recording. But now I sure
know about those things. Some Radio Shack and Apple Sales people that sells
hubs just probably don't do much recording. But when i phoned up my local
music store, they sure understood right away. It really reassured me to get
that hub out of the line up. The other problem was to get long enough cords
that would reach. Being that I only had 10 foot cords I was worried. But being
that my studio is not that far way, it worked.
I put my interface (122 Tascam usb) on the marble floor and my keyboard on
the sink. My had to put my boom pole and mic and my other normal stand n
there as well.
One thing I am amazed with is that I don't receive nearly the noise!
I can't really understand why. I don't know if putting my two mics on separate
tracks or getting my guitar away from my G5 tower lessened the noise. But
something happened. Just not totally sure what did it. But that room must of
generated noise from the tower I guess. Even though I don't really hear the
tower sound on previous recordings. I know I still used the same Tascam usb
122 interface.
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caroline
you come and tile my bathroom the way you've done your own, i buy looooong pieces of wire and then.... who knows??!!! lovely, lovely - thank you x
thetiler
Ya but who is going to pay for the frieght to lug my tools across the sea to your
pad:) ?
Thanks much caroline for comin by!
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Ed Hannifin
...You got a lovely sound here....
Time to change over the business to "doing acoustic
recording treatments"...
You got a lovely sound...not too harshly or metallicly
reverb-y, but nice...especially when you switch to
harmonics...
You've still got those nice, clean trills that sound lute-like,
yet also a pacing and sense of time that at points sounds
almost like Gregorian chant but then slips more toward
the Renaissance...
For all the frustration you describe, this tune has a nice
sense of ease to it... It ends up being very beautiful...
Ed
thetiler
Thanks Ed, your discription is very nice. I love to produce the lingering sounds
after the cord is hit or note is hit and I thing the bathroom is my best place to
get that sound in my house :) I just hope that the kids don't turn the water on in
the other bathroom or washer cause I can hear it and it effects the recording.
Got to make sure I don't take over the bathroom though :)
Got to keep the wife happy :)
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I'm glad you went through the effort to finish the recording,
Bill.
thetiler
Thanks for saying this Mungo.
At times it was very frustrating because I didn't know the hub blocks of audio
capabilities. In a way it was a hard lesson learned.
Thanks!
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Another beauty...expressing the wonderment of creation
and the Creator, by the hand of a humble and inspired
mortal.
thetiler
Thanks Richard
Nice backup singin to TnT as well.
Thanks for stopping by
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ziti
..."not so much in the playing"....then for 5 minutes ya
play all this IMPOSSIBLE stuff!!...this is a fantastic
performance, tiler!!! the recording sounds absolutely
flawless...world class to my ears.
FANNNNNTASTIC!!! a straight 10 in my hard guitar book.
congrats!!!!!
blacksalad
I agree, a superb track that I'd take one look at the tab for on olga or someplace
and admit that I'd never be able to play it!
Brilliant and inspired!
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BlackSalad
SaladBloodySalad
thetiler
Thanks blacksalad
Sorry I don't have any tab made up for the piece.
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thetiler
Thanks so much z, I adore your music.Your playing on " rememberances" is one
of my favorites here at MJ. I just can't say enough about your hit type playing.
So Cool!
So coming from a guy who loves guitar as I do. Thanks soooooo much!
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thetiler
Thanks so much Ziti, it means a lot to me especially a great guitar player like
you are!
Thanks again
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iG.STUDiO
...it was worth it. Sound is exceptional. Love the sliding fingers squeaks, too.
thetiler
Thanks IGS
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i think it was nice and calm
thetiler
Thanks AL
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Cori Ander
Really happy you got such a good result after all the
hazzle! You got a really beautiful sound at the end! As a
listener I feel it was worth all the work you had, if one may
say so of anothers job :)
Admirable that you made it! I have at times thought about
givin bathroom recording a try but throwed in the towel at
the mere thought of the arrengements involved.
Also I sense like you're gradually getting such a good
hand with that guitar! Sound like it flows so easy for you,
even those difficult drills. Sounds like you own the
instrument. You decide, not the guitar!
No harsh sound, which is really enviable, I think that is a
most difficult things to achive on steel stringed acoustic.
Especially since youre at the same time are getting a very
powerful tone at places!
Admirable!
thetiler
Cori"Really happy you got such a good result after all the
hazzle! You got a really beautiful sound at the end! As a
listener I feel it was worth all the work you had, if one may
say so of anothers job :) "
It is a lot of fun to hear something better than I have ever recorded anything.
"Admirable that you made it! I have at times thought about
givin bathroom recording a try but throwed in the towel at
the mere thought of the arrengements involved. "
Yes, yes and so many amends to that one.
It was sure a challanged because I had so many cords and gizmos to deal
with!
"Also I sense like you're gradually getting such a good
hand with that guitar! Sound like it flows so easy for you,
even those difficult drills. Sounds like you own the
instrument. You decide, not the guitar! "
I better own Betsy, she cost me enough :)
No harsh sound, which is really enviable, I think that is a
most difficult things to achive on steel stringed acoustic.
Especially since youre at the same time are getting a very
powerful tone at places!
A real big help is the Santa Cruz companies craftsmanship and recording in
the bathroom to really bring out the flavor of how well built "Betsy" really is!
I just can't get the sustains that I can in my little studio, I am not sure if I will
every be content now recording near my G5.
Thanks for posting
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Drew Kopr
a studio in my bathroom? that way, i can play bass on the throne and get great sounding reverb at the same time. Great work, sound, writing and performance/expression. This is beautiful.
thetiler
Gad good point, right now I don't need to advertize but If it gets slow I can put
in a new skill and advertise. "MAKE YOUR BATHROOM INTO A RECORDING
STUDIO WITH TILE" !
Thanks Drew
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jiguma
Bill, this is just beautiful!! The added resonance of those
bathroom tiles really suits Betsy's already wonderful clear
voice. Your playing never ceases to amaze me, and this is
surely one of your most perfectly executed tunes so far. If
there was a "top 10 ever MJ tunes" list, this would surely
be there.
Thanks for sharing this!!
Neil
thetiler
Thanks jiguma, that is quite a compliment. But I hope this tune gets some
attention towards the earth and it's God given gifts. Mountains, lakes, hills,
water and the list goes on and on and on and on x a trillion + :)
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sky shoes
In the age of downloading I sometimes have to defend the
anti sharing crowd. Seems many people think music is like
an Elvis movie, you hop up on a stage and the sound is
perfect and everyone knows right where the song is
going.... The floodlights come on..Yeah right. sometimes
it all just falls together and sometimes it takes a
considerable effort. God bless you for this effort, it is
sweet to the soul.
thetiler
Thanks ss, I felt and times yelling SOS, but luckily I pulled through all the hub-
bub :)
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bronco
Cool jewel! Great sound, really nice tune. Love that
bathroom echo.
thetiler
Funny you mentioned that, my daughter was doing some laundry and that is one
of the things that was driving me crazy. Because I could hear the water running
when I was trying to record.
Thanks Bronco
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aclarke
"I need a hub for my tub. Why, you ask? So I can spend hours
of quality time honing my craft and recording my art while I
sit upon my porcelain throne... um, that didn't sound the way
I meant!"
Bill- all the hours of effort and BS&T have paid off here. This
is an exquisite recording of your tremendous guitar playing.
Splendid!
thetiler
Thanks AC, I am glad I didn't have to struggle too much in the recording
process. But I did bring the keyboard with me. But when I had the hub hooked
up at first and for quite a while I didn't realize that it was the instigator.
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Cameron
The trouble with commenting after "everyone and his
brother" has already done so -- is that there is not much
left to say!
So I will simply add my $0.02 by expressing my
admiration for your performance on this piece. There is a
great amount of variety, from trills to tremolos, fast
picking, bell-like harmonics, and lovely rubato phrases.
I would never have guessed that you had so much trouble
recording this; it sounds very natural and live.
Great job, Bill!
thetiler
Thanks Cameron
If I had a lapton I guess it would be much easier but being that it was my first
time recording in the bathroom and I used a G5 tower it was a challange to
make sure the lines where long enough and that everything worked which it sure
didn't and really it was the hub that was the major factor of most of the
problems.
Thanks
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Doadars Uncle
Great piece!!! Great recording.
thetiler
Thanks for stopping by DU
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futzpucker
Beautifully executed.
What a treat to listen to this gorgeous piece. Thank you for
continuing to bring your art to this site for us all to enjoy,
Bill.
thetiler
Thanks futz for all the encouragment!
Thanks for posting on the last tune I did as well and about the ostrich!
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_nderscore
beautiful stuff, tiler. very full sounding recording-you nailed
it. looks like my favorite mountain range-the cascades?
thetiler
Thanks _
Not sure which mountain that is but I like to spend a bunch of time on the
pictures that I have to get something that looks or gives an impression of the
piece I am uploading.
Thanks again _
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notsosweet
you put into it. Makes me want to take my guitar into the
bathroom and give it a whirl. :)
thetiler
That's fine, just don't use a hub:)
Acltually I can hardly wait to do the next one because I love hearing the guitar's
reaction to the marble.
Thanks notsoweet
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Tadashi Togawa
The sound that flows from the headphone is first-class
goods.
Melody, performance, and recording.
This is wonderful.
Well done. tiled bathroom!
thetiler
Thanks Tadashi Togawa for the post. I think the marble played a big part in
bringing out the qualities of the Santa Cruz guitar. Even in my studio where I
usually record I couldn't enchance the deph of ambience and sustain of the
guitar strings that can in the bathroom.
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Willywagga
This sounds beautifully done, perfect.
thetiler
I am not sure if I am perfect, but thanks for posting!
Thanks ww
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thoddi
Amen
thetiler
Thanks thoddi
Enjoyed that bossa nova type tune you did recently as well.
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Sil-VER
Man... this is cool!
Meraviglioso!
Silver
thetiler
Thanks Silver, coming from such a fine musician and composer as yourself. That
means a lot to me.
Thanks again
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ceilidh
bill it is SO beautiful... wow! i'm speechless. you are so
fantastic player! not many songs or tunes give me goose
bumps, but this one definitely does. thanks, i love it! (tune
and goose bumps as well :)
thetiler
Thanks ceilidh for being a fan to some of my music!
I hope your stay here at macjams will be a good one!
Sounds like you play music as well. Looking foward to hearing your music!
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Emily Rohm
It's like you are playing in an echoing chapel. Very lovely.
Suberb fingers, too!
thetiler
Thanks Emily, love your new vocal as well. You sure have a nice voice!
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Pie
You are a great guitarist but I sense you're resting on your
laurels somewhat. I'd really like to hear you explore the
boundaries of the instrument and the software available to
you. Perhaps try some contempory production techniques.
But this is a nice little piece. In keeping with all your other
stuff.
thetiler
Thanks pie, for your honesty and pushing me to do better!
Thanks for the time in sharing your thoughts
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Aussie John
Yes very very good and the bathroom reverb is just right and
so clean it picks up all the nuences. I hope the engineer
didnt have to spend too long in the shower encloure.
thetiler
Thanks AJ, isn't that what they called the brother in Simon & Somon?
Thanks :)
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The Tiler
Your fingerpicking is incredible. I agree with the Keaggy comment. I like the way the tempo is free flowing, almost like a conversation. The harmonics are absolutely tastey. I hear references to a hymn but I can't place the title.
Would love to collaborate with you on piano sometime.
RickB1
Your accomplished playing and wonderful, emotive dynamics create a beautiful celebration of song. Thanks for your hard work; it is a blessing to listen to and an honor to hear you play.
thetiler
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