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Description:
Jazz ensemble piece performed by several friends of mine. It features two really great sax solos. It was recorded at Lawrence University choir room and I edited it down (the original was over 8 minutes) in Garageband. Jeff Cox on acoustic bass. Dane Richeson on drums. Woody Mankowski and Doug Schneider on saxophones. Ken Schaphorst on flugelhorn. Bob Levy on trumpet. (Artwork by Alan Perry.)
Cliff's Edge won the Macjams song contest in the autumn of 2004. It is a jazz interpretation of my composition "This One" from my Off Broadway musical drama "Creature" (based on Frankenstein).
Other songs featuring some of the same players:
I Wanna Fly
Windowshade
River Runs through Me
A Promise
Dreams III
Hardware:
Recorded on Yamaha equipment; mixed on a Mac.
Software:
ProTools; Peak; GarageBand.
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Groovy &mdash 04/22/04 - 03:40:41 PM
Another keeper &mdash 04/22/04 - 03:56:56 PM
Jeez, Tobin, if you keep offering this much good music to
MacJams, I won't need to buy another CD for a long while.
(hehe)
I'm keeping "this one too". Thanks for posting it!---
Thierry Daigneault [ Reply to This ]
Another keeper &mdash 06/02/04 - 10:39:49 AM
Nice catch on the title change, macapa. And thanks for the comments. I'll try
and keep them coming! I was part of the Internet is Free 90's movement, the
synergy of collaboration and everyone in it for the art thing. That's what
ArtsForge was all about. Now MacJams is a perfect venue. [ Reply to This ]
yumma..yumma.yumma..... &mdash 04/22/04 - 04:42:14 PM
i dig this the mostest...........soprano sax solo was
hip.....arrangement was topnotch....nice big sound from
the ensemble..drummer reminds me of the late eric
gravatt from Mccoy Tyners big band of the seventies...a 9
from me.... [ Reply to This ]
Great musicianship &mdash 04/22/04 - 06:46:39 PM
Very Nice &mdash 04/23/04 - 03:16:07 PM
Way to go Tobin &mdash 04/24/04 - 10:21:53 PM
Tobin, As of this moment, your song sits atop the ratings
scale with an 8.27 from 11 ratings. Very nice. There are
some people who really like what you and your very
talented friends are creating. And I'm one of them.---Morrie [ Reply to This ]
Way to go Tobin &mdash 04/25/04 - 12:45:22 PM
diddo! amazing talent, performance, arrangement and overall finished
product! definete keeper!
10 from me
detdom (d.g.c) [ Reply to This ]
brightened up my day &mdash 04/27/04 - 05:40:05 PM
Reminds of an afternoon &mdash 04/28/04 - 11:11:01 PM
in the parking lot outside Old Orchard Shopping center
with my pops
listening to Woody HErman's Wambling Herd, wailing as the summer set sat down
well, a smaller ensemble
nicely done
I rekon a lotta 'ears' on Macjams don't hear this sort of thing too often (if ever at all). good exposure and good work. niiiiicce solo and mix-----You haven't lived til you been to Clarksdale [ Reply to This ]
Reminds of an afternoon &mdash 12/28/04 - 03:08:47 PM
Woody Herman's Herd was my dad's favorite too! Yeah, they knew how to cut
it up, thats for sure. Thanks for the memory. [ Reply to This ]
Indeed... &mdash 04/30/04 - 12:40:35 PM
...Very nice! Are you sure Flim Johnson isn't there, too? How 'bout the BB's? [ Reply to This ]
Cool, Daddy-O &mdash 05/01/04 - 10:15:49 PM
Cool, Daddy-O &mdash 05/19/05 - 07:57:18 AM
(Why is it that when someone wants to buy the album, they also want to
remain anonymous!) [ Reply to This ]
helal sana...(turkish bravo) &mdash 05/06/04 - 09:14:00 AM
awesome! &mdash 05/20/04 - 01:56:54 PM
one great big reason why this song is so successful is that
it's recorded with REAL instruments played by REAL
musicians. you can't replicate a sound like this in GB and
with that kind of variation.
it got better and better as it went along. there was one
key moment where i thought, ah! this really worked in this
instant, the way everything fit together, and it kept going
with full strength. drums sound great. i like how they
sound further back when the song picks up. [ Reply to This ]
awesome! &mdash 06/02/04 - 10:35:55 AM
Yeah, Loved it &mdash 05/30/04 - 10:17:58 AM
Used to play a lot of stuff like this with some of the music
students when I was at college (only nowhere near as
good). The recording quality is pretty good too.
Love to know where the title came from. I did a drum and
piano duet that ended up being called "Cake on Friday"
because it was Friday and..yeah you can guess the rest.
We even improvised the titles...
Anyway, this is Quality Stuff. Excellent [ Reply to This ]
Yeah, Loved it &mdash 05/19/05 - 08:03:27 AM
The song is loosely based on a showtune I wrote called "This One." The
working title for the jazz version was "This One Too," as a pun for the count
off, "One, two..." But when I tried to imagine what the song did inside my
head, I felt like I was flying along the edge of a cliff, like in one of those Imax
movies. So I changed the title. Kind of dig the idea of dancing along a cliff's
edge while playing, and using that as an analogy for improvising, too. I like
titles that connote movement. [ Reply to This ]
lawrence &mdash 05/30/04 - 11:15:21 AM
This is a nice tune. Sounds like the recording is from a
couple years ago...I'm currently at Lawrence as a music
major. Levy is retiring this year, Schaphorst is teaching at
NEC (though he came and played here a while ago), and
Dane is still here. [ Reply to This ]
lawrence &mdash 06/02/04 - 09:45:39 AM
Yes, we recorded this in the choir room just off the practice rooms,
improvising a sound partition to "isolate" the drums, and stuck the recording
machine and Jeremy Satchell (in headphones) in the closet, balancing his
coffee on his LA Sound equipment. Never signed the tracks on with anyone,
so I recently edited down the original 8:48 track to post and share on
MacJams. [ Reply to This ]
Impressive &mdash 06/08/04 - 07:29:40 AM
Good stuff! &mdash 06/09/04 - 06:36:31 PM
This is a tight groove, man. Your nephew is a talented arranger. You're not so bad yourself either. I was a music major in college. Vocal was my emphasis, but I play piano, drums, and guitar. I hope someday to learn how to play some wind instruments so I can do some good arrangements, because, as you know, the best arrangers are those who know how to play the instruments they are arranging for. Correct me if I'm wrong but your nephew is probably an accomplished musician, right? I'm sure your just as good, if not better. Anyway, I keep blathering on. I've written some themes similar in style to this piece, but that was before Garageband came around. I've ordered it from Apple and it should be here any day now. As soon as I get some songs layed down, I'll be posting them. They won't be anywhere near the quality of yours (due to the lack of live instruments and accomplished players) but you might enjoy listening. I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this piece and will be looking for more. Thanks for sharing.
Craig Snowbarger [ Reply to This ]
Question &mdash 06/09/04 - 06:39:24 PM
I forgot to ask you. Were you referring to Lawrence, Kansas? I was born and raised in Kansas. Just curious. [ Reply to This ]
Question &mdash 07/06/04 - 11:03:09 AM
As Always &mdash 06/11/04 - 05:14:50 PM
How refreshing &mdash 07/09/04 - 04:54:52 AM
What can I say, I love jazz and I dream I could
play this way. The joy when all the musicians
explode together made me think of the joy I
felt when listening to Stan Getz's "The Dirge"
on the album "Billy Highstreet Samba"
Thank you for the music !
[ Reply to This ]
The Best &mdash 07/10/04 - 01:55:51 PM
What a great groove, great shifting rhythmic space. Absolutely fantastic set up for amazing solos. Great players, great chart. [ Reply to This ]
More Kudos... &mdash 07/17/04 - 10:55:01 AM
Great jazz track. The sax grooves are, as you said,
really great. Just a perfect, complete, satisfying
piece of music to listen to. I can't always describe
why a song is a good one. But I know when I hear
one! The ear doesn't lie.
Jack [ Reply to This ]
Professional & Tight as Ever &mdash 08/01/04 - 08:59:06 AM
Fantastic musicianship and writing. Beautiful
attention to detail and nuance. Sounds more
impressive the more you listen. Bravo! [ Reply to This ]
Professional & Tight as Ever &mdash 12/28/04 - 03:12:30 PM
Thanks. Yeah, we spent a ton of time on the details with this. Of course, it is
easier to blend players who already know how to listen to each other, but
making it work in the mix... must have taken use 4 hours just to mix it.
Thanks for noticing. [ Reply to This ]
Groovin on The East Coast &mdash 08/01/04 - 01:43:21 PM
Way to go! Love this number. Now you and your
brother got proof that mom and dad are not wasting
their money on your college educations! Good luck
to you and your musical friends. Hope to see on the
jazz fest circuit one of these days. Checkout:
www.berksjazzfest.com
Scorp [ Reply to This ]
Groovin on The East Coast &mdash 02/28/05 - 11:02:08 AM
Great comment! We all need to show proof sooner or later, don't we? Mom
sang jazz for lullabyes. And my father was always a huge backer ... my entire
life. Your comments mean more as the years go by. [ Reply to This ]
wow &mdash 08/08/04 - 10:11:11 AM
great work!!
its hard to play real "jazz" with computers.
And this is BIG BAND JAZZ with good band arrangement :o [ Reply to This ]
Prickly! &mdash 08/12/04 - 05:19:01 PM
Never been too much in to the jazz side of life, but I love a
great riff when I hear one and this one may make me
change my mind! I keep playing the beginning of this
track over and over again.
It simply makes the hairs on the back of
your neck stand up as soon as it starts - just how good
music is supposed to! Keep up the good work! Graham [ Reply to This ]
Prickly! &mdash 12/28/04 - 03:15:59 PM
Thanks. I love it when the music can make the hairs stand up. Thanks for
listening and staying with it. I really appreciate it. [ Reply to This ]
cats can blow &mdash 02/25/05 - 05:54:46 AM
Man, you cats can blow. Some great moments. Wish the recording was closer sounding, but great capture. Wish I'd a been there in the room. Took me over the cliff with ya, you did. [ Reply to This ]
master of suspense &mdash 02/27/05 - 10:07:37 AM
I've heard this before.
Love the suspense of it.
Another great tune!
Thanks for sharing.
Love that horn sound, really scootin.
[ Reply to This ]
good ! &mdash 04/08/05 - 02:45:09 PM
good ! &mdash 04/11/05 - 08:41:46 AM
Yes, these cats can really blow. An absolute joy recording this. And I think
we did it all in 2 takes. Such fun. [ Reply to This ]
Well done &mdash 04/22/05 - 10:26:46 PM
A great groove. So great to hear live music. You're right-
the sax solos are terrific. And your nephew is doing a fine
job on the 88s.
[ Reply to This ]
Awesome &mdash 04/30/05 - 02:22:01 PM
great toon and arrangement &mdash 11/08/05 - 11:10:25 AM
Love the way the arrange has space but still features some very tight harmines and rythms. Solos are incredible. I like the tune because it's accessible for the average listener. Wouls hav liked the drums to be more present but overall a fine recording in such an improvised space. [ Reply to This ]
great toon and arrangement &mdash 11/11/05 - 08:04:01 AM
Jazz drums are inherently light and difficult to give the same power as normally
heard. In this case, everyone played in the same room with the drums
sequestered by 2 five foot glass walls but the sound still bled onto everyone's
mic. It was torture trying to mix it and give it the right ambience. What amazes
me his the groove he uses. He only had hits on his chart, the groove was totally
his invention. Never tell a drummer exactly what to do, they will come up with
something cooler than you can even imagine (unless, or course, you are a
drummer too.) [ Reply to This ]
A1 &mdash 12/05/05 - 01:39:07 AM
Boppidy, slurpy, Seasoned, it's a slipp'n and slide'n. Enjoyed it a lot! [ Reply to This ]
Well &mdash 04/20/06 - 01:14:37 PM
Cant beleive I missed this one... this is so goooood:)
I found a link to this one from Einarus' homepage....
I can't tell any more than what has been said before... other than I really like it too:) If not that kick drum has been mentioned, it has a true jazz feel and sound to it. And that bass player kicks ass...
If you don't mind, I'll D/L a copy for my collection of MJ goodies...
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Smokin' &mdash 07/18/06 - 07:47:43 PM
You and the boys up there in Conn sure got something going on. Nice tight build up to those disonant voicings in the horns. Dittos on the soprano solo and your tasteful little piano licks. I thought the drummer could have taken a few extra measures up top before everything kicked in to further emphasize the intensification that permeates this piece. Loved it
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Big &mdash 09/19/06 - 01:36:22 PM
sound from the band. Top notch ensemble playing from the composition.
Great solos. [ Reply to This ]
not only &mdash 02/27/07 - 11:07:45 AM
Do you have a gorgeous brass section goin' on here - woah on the sax, the down beat is exceptional in the swing of things -> definitely see why it's a fav of yours. Nice!. - Harold [ Reply to This ]
brass section &mdash 02/28/07 - 10:05:21 AM
Thanks. The brass section was 2 reeds (sop and tenor sax) and 2 horns (trumpet and flugelhorn). We actually had to do a few more takes than normal to capture the kind of trumpet I was looking for, but it ended up having wonderful consequences. [ Reply to This ]
Amazingly killer &mdash 02/27/07 - 11:19:51 AM
Holy Jazz ensemble Batman! &mdash 02/27/07 - 11:26:22 AM
Really, I'm speechless as to how to put in words the emotion this conveys to me. I love jazz. This is, without a doubt, top frickin' notch! So glad you posted a link to it in John's forum thread. Might not have heard it otherwise. So glad I stopped by! [ Reply to This ]
Really reallly great &mdash 03/05/07 - 04:59:32 PM
Really reallly great. First it is a super nice piece. Then it is superbly performed, really cool and dynamic. What an unerring band. And the recording: so full of natural space. This one on headphones is a treat, so naturally deep and beautiful!
Glad you pointed it out!! [ Reply to This ]
Headphones and the cache of MJ tunes &mdash 03/06/07 - 08:54:51 AM
Thanks for listening in headphones! Music sounds so much better in good headphones. I've spent so many hours in studios listening in headphones to pristine gorgeous mixes only to be disappointed by the relatively dead spaced result of the final track in speakers. I wish they could figure out how to deliver dynamic, lush, warm, detailed sounds in speakers, or that maybe the rooms themselves could be better audio environs. Thanks for listening to this older track. I am really happy people keep listening to the cache of great tunes in the MJ database. [ Reply to This ]
Tobin &mdash 03/05/07 - 05:57:41 PM
Really enjoyable jam... that's a great example to me of separating the men from the boys. A lot of talent thrown around in there live on the fly. Thanks for sharing.. [ Reply to This ]
You are in a class by yourself &mdash 07/18/07 - 07:03:44 AM
This is so good... It's clear that there are many great songs that came and went before i got here... Your mixing and production choices are always top shelf... It doesn't hurt that there is no weak link in this chain of players... But i really like your choices here in the mix... it's not fusion... it's definatley jazz... but it's ramped up... the drums don't sound like traditional jazz drums, but they're perfect for this peice, and a little testoserone soaked... you've captured a very believable stage... it's at once spacious and still in my face... tyou seam to work in 3 dimension, while I'm stuck in 2...
I often have the thought "I'd like to look over your shoulder when you work" [ Reply to This ]
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