i think it sounds pretty cool. kinda like video game music. sounds like it took alot of work

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I started making music as a hobby one year ago - it's something I'd
always wanted to do and the iMac I got came with GarageBand so I
thought 'why not?'. And then I found this site.
However, my education is in mathematics (with a concentration in
algebra) and you've got me thinking I might play around mathematically
(like Xenakis et al.) but with the midi. I'm not sure if I have the time
though to learn to program to manipulate/stimulate the core audio .... I
should have another 40 years on the planet, I hope.
BTW, I enjoyed your piece.

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Awesome, my corrupting influence is spreading.

Seriously though, if you want to experiment don't let anything stop you. The
Individual, Collectivism piece of mine I just used a pencil, paper and
occasionally a calculator. However, if you're at all interest in mucking around
with any sort of software... I'd strongly recommend you have a look at http://
puredata.info/

PD (aka Pure Data) is a real-time graphical programming environment for
audio, video, and graphical processing. Its very similar to Max/MSP, the
program which I'm using (its even made by the same guy that started Max
and share many of the objects)... but it is an open source program (free)
whereas Max/MSP cost money.

As far as learning how to use it... the last 3 songs I've submitted (the Crazy
Organ, Out of C4 and Static Noise) are the the first patches I've written in
Max... and I've only been using for 3 months now. Its an object/graphic
interface so you don't have to worry about writing the source code or
anything... instead you're given a huge range of objects that carry out
different functions for you, so most of the work is deciding what you want to
do and how to do it. It may still take some time to work out how to do what
you want to do... but I've found at least Max/MSP easy to work with,
incredibly powerful and whats more, the more I use it and learn about, the
more limitations are removed and more ideas stream through.

---
The Composer, previously known as The Pianist who hasn't played the piano in a while...

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I'll explore these as time allows. Thanks. :)

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Mungo

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...and ingenious toy.
:)
Thank you for sharing your concepts, it's extremely interesting to reflect
upon basic ingredients and possibilities offered by their manipulation.

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The idea is very stimulating. The song itself sounds like a permutation of
notes and then these permutations permutated again except permutating
the tempo.

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when i was a kid and we were driving in the car on a sunday afternoon, my dad would pull up behind a car whose blinker i could see in front of us. the car in front of us would turn on their right blinker..... i could hear the click of our blinker and watch the one in front of us..... phasing in and out of sync with ours. this reminded me of that. a wierd and unlikely wend to a distant memory...... thank you. very nice track BTW..... but that goes without saying.

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I like this piece. It is very intersting. Like atonalis said about the car
blinkers, I did that too. But this sounds like some people got together
and one guy said "I am gonna play something, and you play something
that kinda goes along with it and if you get bored just start playing
something else and we'll all try to keep up." To answer your question
as to if it sound good. Yes, but it sound like its unresolved. At the end
when it fades out it seem like it wants to go somewhere. Like its an
orchestra tuning up to perform but then they just stop. Not that thats
bad, but it just seems unresolved thats all. Its hard to explain.
It's sort of like a film students experimental short film. You know the
ones that are filmed in black and white with no dialouge but there is a
clown flipping pancakes in slow motion and a close up of a clock
ticking backwards without numbers on it just symbols like @ or & or
something. And everybody says "Wow that was amazing" but really no
one what the hell was going on.
I like it though. It makes me think. Maybe thats what you were going
for.

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To a certain extent, this piece is more of an experimentation than an a piece
of finished music. The majority of my time and effort went into the
programming and the maths of how to get the tracks to move independantly
of each other and more improtantly to move back into time with each other.
Not all that much time was spent working on the melodic material or the
structure of the piece.

So to a certain extent this piece was more of an intention to see if I could do
the idea I had thought of and then at a later date... to see if I could actually
incorporate the ideas into a complete piece of music. I am currently trying to
see if can create something like a Digital Dj with these kind of ideas... but its
taking me a while to figure out the maths of everything again... this piece I
could do linearly... with audio, I need curves which means calculus... which is
harder than I thought.

Thanks for commenting

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The Composer, previously known as The Pianist who hasn't played the piano in a while...

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I understand your explanation of how this relates to "In C", with the
multiple themes, starting at times determined by chance. However,
with the shifting rhythms in the beginning, and certain syncopated
rhyhtms later in the piece. this makes me thing very much of early
Steve Reich compositions.

Your ruminations on live use are interesting. Live interactive electronics
haven't been possible for too long a time. When I started listening to
contemporary music the best a composer could do was "voice and
tape" pieces or so. Last week I went to a concert where there was a
piece where a flute was interactively manipulated. Much more
interesting. That was also done by Max/Msp.

I'll be curious to see what other ideas you come up with.

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