Killing for Milk and for Honey

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Well, Finally i am coming up with something new. This is a song I wrote over a year ago, and i finished it today. And off course i recorded it in a hurry! I guess i could say that this the Political Selters stepping forward(off course with no knowledge what so ever). The song was written in anger over a world with people that are not nice to eachother! Cant we just be nice to eachother? Is it that hard?

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Killing for Milk and for Honey

theyre killing for milk and honey
theyre willing to do it for culture and money
Fanatic believes multiplying
someone are hiding an others are dying

Hope!
Hoping for change,
hoping for love, Hoping for hope
hoping the killers will hang........

I am so sick and so tired
wishing indeed that some people were fired
were watching the world blow to pieces
we dont really care we just hide behind jesus

Hope!
Hoping for change,
hoping for love, Hoping for hope
hoping the killers will hang........

Song Stats

Hits: 2357
Comments: 46
Fans: 12
Plays: 798
Downloads: 119
Votes: 26
Uploaded: Jan 08, 2006 - 02:17:45 PM
Last Updated: Jan 08, 2006 - 12:33:06 PM Last Played: Jul 29, 2009 - 07:25:15 PM

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Keywords:

hate (48), killing (8), anger (25), bombers (2), babykillers (1), USA (3), Terrorists (2), Crazy fuckers (1), ()

Hardware:

M-audio delta 66
Audiobuddy preamp
2 Adk a51 Condenser Microphones
Epiphone Special Sg Electric Guitar
Morgan acoustic (alsoknown as good old Morgan)

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Tracktion 2

Comments

Ed Hannifin

Ed Hannifin said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)

A working class hero is something to be...
Your recorded sound keeps getting better, selters...

Much brighter sound, the guitar sounds like it has a treble end, your
voice is very clear...

And the song has a sort of emphatic punch. It's not subtle. It says what
it says.

Don't be aftraid to do slower fades at the end of your tunes. You have a
fair amount of 'air' in your recordings, and if the fader comes down too
fast, it makes one conscious of the recording, not the song. Sit quiet as
the song ends, so you'll have the luxury of a slower fade. One of the
engineers I first worked with used to tell us to just freeze and hardly
move or breathe until every last bit of the last chord died away.

Can't wait to hear the next one, sir.

Ed

Check out my latest song called Next Time Around (w/jiguma)

selters

selters said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)

A working class hero is something to be...
Thanks a lot Ed! Really apreciate your comments! I am quite stupid when it comes to that Final chord and fade stuff. I promise to improve in the future ;). The song that you have heard are now coming along!

---
Check out my latest song: <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/16005">And you will die</a>

Check out my latest song called So Far (Out Of Reach)

thoddi

thoddi said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)

careful. what you wish for
.... hoping the killers will hang - isn't that why we can't make world piece... revenge and stuff like that u know...
But I know the feeling. It's just to figure out what we could do instead of walking on that road of revenge. I think it all starts with ourselfs, and that we have to share a common awareness of that we are all the same and share one world.

Well, I liked the song. Good recording, guitars and as always great vox.

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selters	selters said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)
	careful. what you wish for yes, thoddi you are right! There is a big paradox in the lyrics. And it is quite intentional. --- Check out my latest song: <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/16005">And you will die</a> Check out my latest song called So Far (Out Of Reach)

ledebutant

ledebutant said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)

Angry Elliott
You know I love Elliot Smith and, selters, I really think this is as good
as any of his songs. Your vocal is extraordinarily beautiful here.

The song is very simple, but very powerful and the sparse production
really serves it well, too. I love the subtle complexity in the lyrics, the
acknowledgement of human nature. The only suggestion I have, is
what Ejh said about the fade at the end, but otherwise WOW!

This goes in my all-time MJ Top Ten. I love it.

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stevel	stevel said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)
	Really really good Great song Selters...I like the angry yet melodic feel. Nice clear production, the vocals really stand out on this. Impressive!! Steve Check out my latest song called Electricity

screamalexz	screamalexz said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)
	better quality this is pretty cool. as stated your recordings are getting alot better in quality. love it. interesting creative lyrics. the repition of hope gets to me a little but other then that i like it. Check out my latest song called Die (Album Version)

screamalexz	screamalexz said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)
	better quality this is pretty cool. as stated your recordings are getting alot better in quality. love it. interesting creative lyrics. the repition of hope gets to me a little but other then that i like it. Check out my latest song called Die (Album Version)

Einarus	Einarus said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)
	Great! It really is. Great sound, very emotional. A fav & a DL. Good work! Check out my latest song called Good Things Come in Fours

drakonis

drakonis said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)

My sentiments exactly!
Great overall idea for a song, nice lyrics, really great song melody.
Definitely a winner here... with some practice/polish on your singing and
guitar playing, this will be killer! My only lyric suggestions would be to be
more Ghandi-esque and not suggest violence-for-violence ("hoping the
killers will hang")... and also to be a more worldwide message I would not
pick on one prophet (Jesus), but be more vague and all-encompassing, by
referring to religion or god or just "beliefs". But take that from somebody
who can't write lyrics at all :-) Great song there!
ttfn,
Drakonis

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urbnite

urbnite said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)

kill!
nothing wrong with a bit of a paradox in the lyrics - just as long as you're
aware that some people might get the wrong idea.

but this is a great song - love the message. Ejh quoted Lennon and
there's definitely a similarity to his message.

i do agree that the end fade could last a bit longer.

i'm glad to hear something new from you! great stuff!

Check out my latest song called Everything's Perfect

	said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)
	SWEET SHALISTA! MIlk and honey! Sweet tune! I am sick and yired of these dip shits along with these Hip Hop degenerates that can't even speak the english language! It makes me bloody sick! Killing for religon something I don't iunderstand?

selters	selters said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)
	SWEET SHALISTA! me neither! Lets kill for oil instead!! --- Check out my latest song: <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/16895">Killing for Milk and for Honey</a> Check out my latest song called So Far (Out Of Reach)

aclarke	aclarke said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)
	Wow So much improvement in your recordings with every new song. And the words and message on this are pretty powerful as well. Makes a person wonder what ever happened to the Golden Rule. Nice work, Selters! Check out my latest song called Ballad of The Little Tiki

jgurner

jgurner said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)

Excellent!!
The production on this is great. Well written and a great sound.

There are so many people who are despairate for some kind of hope and
there are so many people who are just waiting to take advantage of them
through fear, terror, disillusionment and promises of false hope.

Anything that can get me stirred up and into "pissed off" mode gets a
thumbs up in my book.

Check out my latest song called Bourbon Street Dawn

bronco

bronco said 1413 days ago (January 8th, 2006)

Hope Springs Eternally
And springs break eternally. It is a circular world we live in. Dylan once
said, "Don't hate nothing except hatred." In one of the most powerful
anti-war songs ever written he said, " And I'll stand over your grave
until I'm sure that you're dead."

Hard to stay calm, or reasonable when the world stirs up strong
emotions every day. I hear all of this in your song and can identify with
all of it. But in the end all we can do is try to bring some of that
calmness and reasonableness into the world to counter the chaos and
hatred.

Beautiful song, you have the right stuff! Just don't let your anger carry
you over to the dark side. They have enough guys on their side already!

Check out my latest song called Strange Feeling

Leon

Leon said 1413 days ago (January 9th, 2006)

You stirred a hornet's nest...
Well, you did it again, Magnus! You just know how to stir emotions by
saying things that nobody would dare say, and singing about it with
smoldering fury. This song has irony and paradox written all over it,
and that message should not be lost on anyone who listens to it. It is a
song that should not be taken literally and does make you think . Just
like your other songs, this is awesome in its melodious simplicity yet
powerful in its restrained delivery and fiery political substance.

Recording wise, I will just echo what others have said...fade out the
ambient noise in the end.

In recent weeks, every next song you came out with had been my new
favorite song from you. This one is no exception... This will be my
favorite Selters song until you come out with the dance remix
version :-)

Check out my latest song called The Nightingale (music and lyrics by Oceans)

dreadmon

dreadmon said 1412 days ago (January 9th, 2006)

Had me from 'hello'
First off, I was captivated by the guitar, melody and progression before the words began. Deliciously haunting, and it sets the mood for the piece, which I enjoyed immensely! Your words are so true, so timely, simply put and highly effective - and your voice really conveys the emotion well, from weary to indignant, nice job! The doubling is very well-done - maybe a bit too much reverb, but well up in the mix. Short and bittersweet, it's such a quick tune, I wanted more when all was said and done. This is a tune that pulls no punches, delivers the goods and doesn't overstay its welcome. Another winner, selters - great job!

Check out my latest song called Dive!

The Composer

The Composer said 1412 days ago (January 9th, 2006)

title
Mirroring some comments, your production is getting alot better. Your
voice sounds fantastic and Ejh is right about that fade out. I quite like
the lyrics... particularly the 2nd verse... as one of the things getting to
me lately is how people use religion to their own means whether it be
to get out of things, or to justify things... say the current war on Terror
(Terrorist are fighting the evil in the west... and the West is fighting the
evil terrorist... both have been done in the name of god at some point
or other).

Other things, I like the un-even number of bars/beats you're using for
your groupings... something like 13 for your groupings. It doesn't
sound awkward or anything, just un-expected which is cool. The
structure of the song is a little bit of a let down though... Verse/
Chorus/Verse/Chorus is a little ordinary and the piece feels as if it
could easily do more than that.

Eitherway, this is a nice simple song, well done.

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K Möller J	K Möller J said 1412 days ago (January 9th, 2006)
	Gggggrrrrreeeeat!!!! Awesome !! FUCKING Genious! Check out my latest song called GRILL

caroline	caroline said 1412 days ago (January 9th, 2006)
	what a lovely voice you have... and you know perfectly well what i am going to say next.... so i won't!!! make it so magnus - pdq!!! thanks for sharing your beautiful gift on this one xx Check out my latest song called clink that link mjrf

springclock	springclock said 1411 days ago (January 10th, 2006)
	like great acoustic tone and I dig the verb on your voice....good melody and I dig the feel Check out my latest song called Magnetar

Mcboy	Mcboy said 1411 days ago (January 10th, 2006)
	great prescence....i feel u are in the same room with me........there is nothing i love more than thought provoking lyrics(well maybe a tought provoking guitar solo....hehhhe)...u have succeeded with this well deliverd commentary.....we need more social diagnosis in song/art..... Check out my latest song called Heros( aclarke/mcboy)

rtcooper

rtcooper said 1411 days ago (January 10th, 2006)

FINE Lyric and Presentation
A civilized description of the uncivilized Zeit that we have.

I like the space in the Soundscape, full without seeming overdone or an
inappropriate MS-LR spread. The voicing of both the Vocal and the
Guitar are distinct and in a comfortable ratio, one to the other.

The close of the Track comes some quickly for a piece that puts one in
a contemplative state. I believe this was mentioned above, but for
what it's worth, I seem to agree that it pulls attention from what's really
Going On, here.

Tough Topic. Fine Work.

Best,
rtc

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said 1411 days ago (January 10th, 2006)

I see you in chat...
either very late or very early for you.

OK. The sound, the mood, the feel of this song is very, very good.
Your voice and your music create an atmosphere that is easy to
enter into. The flow of your lyrics is a bit disjointed IMO. It seems
you are trying to make points rather than communicate with the
listener. The lyrics I like, especially the chorus. It seems you are
reaching for rhymes in some places. I hope this isn't offensive to you.
I am wading in only because I think you have a good song here and
it can be better. The message will be more powerful and edible if it
is a little more subtle and nuanced.

I really like your voice and the way you sing this song. It is very
reminiscent of REM. I mean that.

In short... very good song... very good performance. take a bow.

Jack

Cameron

Cameron said 1409 days ago (January 12th, 2006)

darkness and light
This is the first tune of yours that I have heard. I am very impressed with your voice and your guitar playing.

The melody line and chords are very good -- simple, yet effective. The minor key conveys the subject matter perfectly.

I like the "faraway", almost echoey quality of your voice on this. It goes well with the more percussive guitar playing. I also like the way you intensified both vox and guitar as the song progressed.

The lyrics are thought-provoking and I think that the paradox is perfect! You have hit upon something which is so TRUE -- that people so often "agitate" for peace, but whose methods are anything but peaceful.

You have brought forth the concept of "darkness and light" very effectively in this song. Great job!

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AEROjet	AEROjet said 1409 days ago (January 12th, 2006)
	Aw maaaaan This is awesome. Mad props for this moving song. I agree with you politically and musically. I love the intro with the wide guitar strums. Check out my latest song called You Got Me (remix)

FEEL	FEEL said 1408 days ago (January 13th, 2006)
	This is a cruel world and getting worse I'm with you, I don't think it was Gods will to blow the living crap out of people. Check out my latest song called Pigs Fly

echoroom	echoroom said 1408 days ago (January 14th, 2006)
	sweet and unhinged Really like the feel of this, very nice instrumental accompaniment. The lyrics come across very ambiguous, which adds to the menace of the song - my take on this is that's it's sung from the point of view who is (unintentionally) adding to the problem , whilst thinking they are part of the solution. Check out my latest song called Deeper (w/t Racerat)

jesushairdo	jesushairdo said 1407 days ago (January 14th, 2006)
	feel free to hide behind me! whoa! how come i havent come aross with your songs before?! man, like you said yourself in your profile, you really are depressed!! super cool!! loved it. gotta check out your other songs. Check out my latest song called Elephant in the Sky (Orchestra version)

selters	selters said 1407 days ago (January 14th, 2006)
	feel free to hide behind me! Thanks a lot and congratulations! you are the first person to Break 30 comments on my songs! --- Check out my latest song: <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/16895">Killing for Milk and for Honey</a> Check out my latest song called So Far (Out Of Reach)

Mokus

Mokus said 1407 days ago (January 14th, 2006)

Killer track...
selters, I really like this song...great voice and cool lyrics. I 've got an idea though, ya see we've got a lot of empty space up here in Canada and I was thinking we should round up those republicans and all of the world's fundamentalists and let%u2019s watch them duke it out in this winter wasteland...could be a nice fix for your paradox and damn entertaining too...I might even watch that over a good hockey game!
Great song! (and perhaps a good idea, no?!)

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Myshkin	Myshkin said 1407 days ago (January 14th, 2006)
	Excellent! This is great Selters. I don't think there's anything wrong with the lyrics at all. I especially love the rhyming of 'pieces' with 'jesus'. I love the production too. Enjoyed this muchly. Check out my latest song called Iceland

	seabs said 1407 days ago (January 14th, 2006)
	whoa my man... its nothing ive herd of before but hey its pretty "sweet" if you catch my drift... Check out my latest song called forest orchestra

	sublymedub420 said 1406 days ago (January 15th, 2006)
	hell yeah nice song bro. i dig it you have a nice voice bro. i really dig the words man. keep up the song writing and never give up on it cuz its the funnest thing in the world to do

	said 1406 days ago (January 15th, 2006)
	this is good Therefore, I enjoyed it cheers m8

Osric	Osric said 1405 days ago (January 16th, 2006)
	cant we all get along? If I had a doller for everytime ive thought that same thing I'd be able to retire and live on an island where no one would be able to ruin my good mood lol. Nice creativity bud, enjoyed it! Check out my latest song called Look To The West

loyd vader	loyd vader said 1404 days ago (January 17th, 2006)
	i concur great lyrics....great recording........great sound..........gotta love good old morgan............... Check out my latest song called im not lazy, im just tired

paxeden	paxeden said 1404 days ago (January 17th, 2006)
	hello your guitar sound is great. also ...do you use a popper stopper or your software to de-essss? I have been struggling with that ...as i'm more of a writer than engineer these days. your vocals sound nice and edgy w/out crazy consonants. -pax Check out my latest song called mister

kevmikwa

kevmikwa said 1403 days ago (January 18th, 2006)

Message delivered
I'm a fan of simple power, and it don't get much simpler or powerful than this! Musically, the vocals are really special. I'm an Elliott Smith fan, so I'm an instant Selters fan, too. Excellent layering throughout - the voicing, tones and levels on the 3 (plus?) guitar tracks (especially at the beginning) are so well defined and kept to their own private spot in the mix. I'm not going to let the quick end get in the way - the final chord is still ringing in my head. So well done!

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Rolo	Rolo said 1401 days ago (January 20th, 2006)
	Nice vocal work. What most impressed me was the vocals. The doubling works every time! And the mixed guitars too. I would just delete some mouth noises from the vocal track and the ending noise. Check out my latest song called Sempiterna Decepción

milkus

milkus said 1401 days ago (January 20th, 2006)

Norsk Folk
I just read one of your posts on the messageboard and tried to translate
that quote, I then thought I would check out your songs, and Damn,
great stuff. Your influences are nearly the same as mine, Iron and Wine,
Elliott Smith, Radiohead- all favorites of mine. I love acoustic guitar
singer/songwriter songs, yours are amazing. If there are other artists like
you here on mj let me know.

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milkus

milkus said 1401 days ago (January 20th, 2006)

Check out my latest song called Pyramid

	said 1398 days ago (January 23rd, 2006)
	Music not bad Title and opening line would make a great anti-abortion lyric. The rest is just confusion. Music not bad at all though.

selters	selters said 1398 days ago (January 24th, 2006)
	Music not bad Anti abortion? hmm, never though of that..... And yes, to some extent i agree, that the rest might be comfusion. Thats what its all about, isnt it? --- Check out my latest song: <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/16895">Killing for Milk and for Honey</a> Check out my latest song called So Far (Out Of Reach)

Boris the Bull

Boris the Bull said 1393 days ago (January 28th, 2006)

thoughts from the bull...
wow! being new to your music, i wasn't sure what to expect. but
certainly nothing as potent, yet simple, as this.

on its own, it's a wonderfully simple and very clean piece. love the
quality of the recording! the performance is equally as great.

the message, as with all political subject matter, is interpretable. i
admire the boldness of the content. it resounds well without
hammering the topic home. it comes across very well.

glad to have found your voice! thanks for the great music!

Check out my latest song called What You'd Be Like

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