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Well, Finally i am coming up with something new. This is a song I wrote over a year ago, and i finished it today. And off course i recorded it in a hurry! I guess i could say that this the Political Selters stepping forward(off course with no knowledge what so ever). The song was written in anger over a world with people that are not nice to eachother! Cant we just be nice to eachother? Is it that hard?
Lyrics:
Killing for Milk and for Honey
theyre killing for milk and honey
theyre willing to do it for culture and money
Fanatic believes multiplying
someone are hiding an others are dying
Hope!
Hoping for change,
hoping for love, Hoping for hope
hoping the killers will hang........
I am so sick and so tired
wishing indeed that some people were fired
were watching the world blow to pieces
we dont really care we just hide behind jesus
Hope!
Hoping for change,
hoping for love, Hoping for hope
hoping the killers will hang........
Hardware:
M-audio delta 66
Audiobuddy preamp
2 Adk a51 Condenser Microphones
Epiphone Special Sg Electric Guitar
Morgan acoustic (alsoknown as good old Morgan)
Software:
Tracktion 2
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A working class hero is something to be... &mdash 01/08/06 - 02:41:00 PM
Your recorded sound keeps getting better, selters...
Much brighter sound, the guitar sounds like it has a treble end, your
voice is very clear...
And the song has a sort of emphatic punch. It's not subtle. It says what
it says.
Don't be aftraid to do slower fades at the end of your tunes. You have a
fair amount of 'air' in your recordings, and if the fader comes down too
fast, it makes one conscious of the recording, not the song. Sit quiet as
the song ends, so you'll have the luxury of a slower fade. One of the
engineers I first worked with used to tell us to just freeze and hardly
move or breathe until every last bit of the last chord died away.
Can't wait to hear the next one, sir.
Ed [ Reply to This ]
A working class hero is something to be... &mdash 01/08/06 - 03:18:31 PM
Thanks a lot Ed! Really apreciate your comments! I am quite stupid when it comes to that Final chord and fade stuff. I promise to improve in the future ;). The song that you have heard are now coming along!
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Check out my latest song: <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/16005">And you will die</a>
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careful. what you wish for &mdash 01/08/06 - 03:34:25 PM
.... hoping the killers will hang - isn't that why we can't make world piece... revenge and stuff like that u know...
But I know the feeling. It's just to figure out what we could do instead of walking on that road of revenge. I think it all starts with ourselfs, and that we have to share a common awareness of that we are all the same and share one world.
Well, I liked the song. Good recording, guitars and as always great vox. [ Reply to This ]
careful. what you wish for &mdash 01/08/06 - 03:35:52 PM
yes, thoddi you are right! There is a big paradox in the lyrics. And it is quite intentional.
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Check out my latest song: <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/16005">And you will die</a>
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Angry Elliott &mdash 01/08/06 - 03:57:22 PM
You know I love Elliot Smith and, selters, I really think this is as good
as any of his songs. Your vocal is extraordinarily beautiful here.
The song is very simple, but very powerful and the sparse production
really serves it well, too. I love the subtle complexity in the lyrics, the
acknowledgement of human nature. The only suggestion I have, is
what Ejh said about the fade at the end, but otherwise WOW!
This goes in my all-time MJ Top Ten. I love it. [ Reply to This ]
Really really good &mdash 01/08/06 - 04:01:39 PM
Great song Selters...I like the angry yet melodic feel. Nice clear
production, the vocals really stand out on this.
Impressive!!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
better quality &mdash 01/08/06 - 04:02:05 PM
this is pretty cool. as stated your recordings are getting alot better in quality. love it. interesting creative lyrics. the repition of hope gets to me a little but other then that i like it. [ Reply to This ]
better quality &mdash 01/08/06 - 04:02:15 PM
this is pretty cool. as stated your recordings are getting alot better in quality. love it. interesting creative lyrics. the repition of hope gets to me a little but other then that i like it. [ Reply to This ]
Great! &mdash 01/08/06 - 04:07:13 PM
My sentiments exactly! &mdash 01/08/06 - 04:27:55 PM
Great overall idea for a song, nice lyrics, really great song melody.
Definitely a winner here... with some practice/polish on your singing and
guitar playing, this will be killer! My only lyric suggestions would be to be
more Ghandi-esque and not suggest violence-for-violence ("hoping the
killers will hang")... and also to be a more worldwide message I would not
pick on one prophet (Jesus), but be more vague and all-encompassing, by
referring to religion or god or just "beliefs". But take that from somebody
who can't write lyrics at all :-) Great song there!
ttfn,
Drakonis [ Reply to This ]
kill! &mdash 01/08/06 - 05:15:58 PM
nothing wrong with a bit of a paradox in the lyrics - just as long as you're
aware that some people might get the wrong idea.
but this is a great song - love the message. Ejh quoted Lennon and
there's definitely a similarity to his message.
i do agree that the end fade could last a bit longer.
i'm glad to hear something new from you! great stuff! [ Reply to This ]
SWEET SHALISTA! &mdash 01/08/06 - 05:18:41 PM
MIlk and honey! Sweet tune! I am sick and yired of these dip shits along with these Hip Hop degenerates that can't even speak the english language! It makes me bloody sick! Killing for religon something I don't iunderstand? [ Reply to This ]
SWEET SHALISTA! &mdash 01/08/06 - 05:24:01 PM
me neither! Lets kill for oil instead!!
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Check out my latest song: <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/16895">Killing for Milk and for Honey</a>
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Wow &mdash 01/08/06 - 05:27:25 PM
So much improvement in your recordings with every new song. And the
words and message on this are pretty powerful as well. Makes a person
wonder what ever happened to the Golden Rule.
Nice work, Selters! [ Reply to This ]
Excellent!! &mdash 01/08/06 - 08:20:18 PM
The production on this is great. Well written and a great sound.
There are so many people who are despairate for some kind of hope and
there are so many people who are just waiting to take advantage of them
through fear, terror, disillusionment and promises of false hope.
Anything that can get me stirred up and into "pissed off" mode gets a
thumbs up in my book. [ Reply to This ]
Hope Springs Eternally &mdash 01/08/06 - 09:12:47 PM
And springs break eternally. It is a circular world we live in. Dylan once
said, "Don't hate nothing except hatred." In one of the most powerful
anti-war songs ever written he said, " And I'll stand over your grave
until I'm sure that you're dead."
Hard to stay calm, or reasonable when the world stirs up strong
emotions every day. I hear all of this in your song and can identify with
all of it. But in the end all we can do is try to bring some of that
calmness and reasonableness into the world to counter the chaos and
hatred.
Beautiful song, you have the right stuff! Just don't let your anger carry
you over to the dark side. They have enough guys on their side already! [ Reply to This ]
You stirred a hornet's nest... &mdash 01/09/06 - 12:22:50 AM
Well, you did it again, Magnus! You just know how to stir emotions by
saying things that nobody would dare say, and singing about it with
smoldering fury. This song has irony and paradox written all over it,
and that message should not be lost on anyone who listens to it. It is a
song that should not be taken literally and does make you think . Just
like your other songs, this is awesome in its melodious simplicity yet
powerful in its restrained delivery and fiery political substance.
Recording wise, I will just echo what others have said...fade out the
ambient noise in the end.
In recent weeks, every next song you came out with had been my new
favorite song from you. This one is no exception... This will be my
favorite Selters song until you come out with the dance remix
version :-) [ Reply to This ]
Had me from 'hello' &mdash 01/09/06 - 08:40:22 AM
First off, I was captivated by the guitar, melody and progression before the words began. Deliciously haunting, and it sets the mood for the piece, which I enjoyed immensely! Your words are so true, so timely, simply put and highly effective - and your voice really conveys the emotion well, from weary to indignant, nice job! The doubling is very well-done - maybe a bit too much reverb, but well up in the mix. Short and bittersweet, it's such a quick tune, I wanted more when all was said and done. This is a tune that pulls no punches, delivers the goods and doesn't overstay its welcome. Another winner, selters - great job! [ Reply to This ]
title &mdash 01/09/06 - 09:13:37 AM
Mirroring some comments, your production is getting alot better. Your
voice sounds fantastic and Ejh is right about that fade out. I quite like
the lyrics... particularly the 2nd verse... as one of the things getting to
me lately is how people use religion to their own means whether it be
to get out of things, or to justify things... say the current war on Terror
(Terrorist are fighting the evil in the west... and the West is fighting the
evil terrorist... both have been done in the name of god at some point
or other).
Other things, I like the un-even number of bars/beats you're using for
your groupings... something like 13 for your groupings. It doesn't
sound awkward or anything, just un-expected which is cool. The
structure of the song is a little bit of a let down though... Verse/
Chorus/Verse/Chorus is a little ordinary and the piece feels as if it
could easily do more than that.
Eitherway, this is a nice simple song, well done. [ Reply to This ]
Gggggrrrrreeeeat!!!! &mdash 01/09/06 - 10:13:57 AM
what a lovely voice you have... &mdash 01/09/06 - 01:30:08 PM
and you know perfectly well what i am going to say next.... so i won't!!! make it so magnus - pdq!!! thanks for sharing your beautiful gift on this one xx [ Reply to This ]
like &mdash 01/10/06 - 10:19:04 AM
great acoustic tone and I dig the verb on your voice....good melody and I dig the feel [ Reply to This ]
great &mdash 01/10/06 - 11:57:28 AM
prescence....i feel u are in the same room with me........there is nothing i
love more than thought provoking lyrics(well maybe a tought provoking
guitar solo....hehhhe)...u have succeeded with this well deliverd
commentary.....we need more social diagnosis in song/art..... [ Reply to This ]
FINE Lyric and Presentation &mdash 01/10/06 - 03:19:23 PM
A civilized description of the uncivilized Zeit that we have.
I like the space in the Soundscape, full without seeming overdone or an
inappropriate MS-LR spread. The voicing of both the Vocal and the
Guitar are distinct and in a comfortable ratio, one to the other.
The close of the Track comes some quickly for a piece that puts one in
a contemplative state. I believe this was mentioned above, but for
what it's worth, I seem to agree that it pulls attention from what's really
Going On, here.
Tough Topic. Fine Work.
Best,
rtc [ Reply to This ]
I see you in chat... &mdash 01/10/06 - 11:04:14 PM
either very late or very early for you.
OK. The sound, the mood, the feel of this song is very, very good.
Your voice and your music create an atmosphere that is easy to
enter into. The flow of your lyrics is a bit disjointed IMO. It seems
you are trying to make points rather than communicate with the
listener. The lyrics I like, especially the chorus. It seems you are
reaching for rhymes in some places. I hope this isn't offensive to you.
I am wading in only because I think you have a good song here and
it can be better. The message will be more powerful and edible if it
is a little more subtle and nuanced.
I really like your voice and the way you sing this song. It is very
reminiscent of REM. I mean that.
In short... very good song... very good performance. take a bow.
Jack
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darkness and light &mdash 01/12/06 - 11:33:17 AM
This is the first tune of yours that I have heard. I am very impressed with your voice and your guitar playing.
The melody line and chords are very good -- simple, yet effective. The minor key conveys the subject matter perfectly.
I like the "faraway", almost echoey quality of your voice on this. It goes well with the more percussive guitar playing. I also like the way you intensified both vox and guitar as the song progressed.
The lyrics are thought-provoking and I think that the paradox is perfect! You have hit upon something which is so TRUE -- that people so often "agitate" for peace, but whose methods are anything but peaceful.
You have brought forth the concept of "darkness and light" very effectively in this song. Great job!
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Aw maaaaan &mdash 01/12/06 - 11:06:44 PM
This is awesome. Mad props for this moving song. I agree with you
politically and musically. I love the intro with the wide guitar strums. [ Reply to This ]
This is a cruel world and getting worse &mdash 01/13/06 - 02:21:50 PM
I'm with you, I don't think it was Gods will to blow the living crap out of people. [ Reply to This ]
sweet and unhinged &mdash 01/14/06 - 03:34:30 AM
Really like the feel of this, very nice instrumental accompaniment.
The lyrics come across very ambiguous, which adds to the menace of the song - my take on this is that's it's sung from the point of view who is (unintentionally) adding to the problem , whilst thinking they are part of the solution. [ Reply to This ]
feel free to hide behind me! &mdash 01/14/06 - 09:10:55 AM
whoa! how come i havent come aross with your songs before?!
man, like you said yourself in your profile, you really are depressed!!
super cool!! loved it. gotta check out your other songs.
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feel free to hide behind me! &mdash 01/14/06 - 09:14:00 AM
Thanks a lot and congratulations! you are the first person to Break 30 comments on my songs!
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Check out my latest song: <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/16895">Killing for Milk and for Honey</a>
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Killer track... &mdash 01/14/06 - 12:54:04 PM
selters, I really like this song...great voice and cool lyrics. I 've got an idea though, ya see we've got a lot of empty space up here in Canada and I was thinking we should round up those republicans and all of the world's fundamentalists and let%u2019s watch them duke it out in this winter wasteland...could be a nice fix for your paradox and damn entertaining too...I might even watch that over a good hockey game!
Great song! (and perhaps a good idea, no?!)
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Excellent! &mdash 01/14/06 - 03:49:09 PM
This is great Selters. I don't think there's anything wrong with the lyrics at all. I especially love the rhyming of 'pieces' with 'jesus'. I love the production too. Enjoyed this muchly. [ Reply to This ]
whoa my man... &mdash 01/14/06 - 06:05:18 PM
its nothing ive herd of before but hey its pretty "sweet" if you catch my drift... [ Reply to This ]
hell yeah &mdash 01/15/06 - 11:07:12 AM
nice song bro. i dig it
you have a nice voice bro.
i really dig the words man. keep up the song writing and never give up on it cuz its the funnest thing in the world to do [ Reply to This ]
this is good &mdash 01/15/06 - 10:52:38 PM
cant we all get along? &mdash 01/16/06 - 10:02:18 AM
If I had a doller for everytime ive thought that same thing I'd be able to retire and live on an island where no one would be able to ruin my good mood lol. Nice creativity bud, enjoyed it! [ Reply to This ]
i concur &mdash 01/17/06 - 03:20:18 PM
great lyrics....great recording........great sound..........gotta love good old morgan............... [ Reply to This ]
hello &mdash 01/17/06 - 07:29:43 PM
your guitar sound is great.
also ...do you use a popper stopper or your software to de-essss? I have
been struggling with that ...as i'm more of a writer than engineer these
days. your vocals sound nice and edgy w/out crazy consonants.
-pax [ Reply to This ]
Message delivered &mdash 01/18/06 - 03:47:42 PM
I'm a fan of simple power, and it don't get much simpler or powerful than this! Musically, the vocals are really special. I'm an Elliott Smith fan, so I'm an instant Selters fan, too. Excellent layering throughout - the voicing, tones and levels on the 3 (plus?) guitar tracks (especially at the beginning) are so well defined and kept to their own private spot in the mix. I'm not going to let the quick end get in the way - the final chord is still ringing in my head. So well done! [ Reply to This ]
Nice vocal work. &mdash 01/20/06 - 06:27:51 PM
What most impressed me was the vocals. The doubling works every time!
And the mixed guitars too.
I would just delete some mouth noises from the vocal track and the
ending noise. [ Reply to This ]
Norsk Folk &mdash 01/20/06 - 08:54:45 PM
I just read one of your posts on the messageboard and tried to translate
that quote, I then thought I would check out your songs, and Damn,
great stuff. Your influences are nearly the same as mine, Iron and Wine,
Elliott Smith, Radiohead- all favorites of mine. I love acoustic guitar
singer/songwriter songs, yours are amazing. If there are other artists like
you here on mj let me know. [ Reply to This ]
Norsk Folk &mdash 01/20/06 - 08:54:47 PM
I just read one of your posts on the messageboard and tried to translate
that quote, I then thought I would check out your songs, and Damn,
great stuff. Your influences are nearly the same as mine, Iron and Wine,
Elliott Smith, Radiohead- all favorites of mine. I love acoustic guitar
singer/songwriter songs, yours are amazing. If there are other artists like
you here on mj let me know. [ Reply to This ]
Music not bad &mdash 01/23/06 - 11:55:09 PM
Title and opening line would make a great anti-abortion lyric. The rest is
just confusion. Music not bad at all though. [ Reply to This ]
Music not bad &mdash 01/24/06 - 02:36:49 AM
Anti abortion? hmm, never though of that..... And yes, to some extent i agree, that the rest might be comfusion. Thats what its all about, isnt it?
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Check out my latest song: <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/16895">Killing for Milk and for Honey</a>
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thoughts from the bull... &mdash 01/28/06 - 06:55:49 PM
wow! being new to your music, i wasn't sure what to expect. but
certainly nothing as potent, yet simple, as this.
on its own, it's a wonderfully simple and very clean piece. love the
quality of the recording! the performance is equally as great.
the message, as with all political subject matter, is interpretable. i
admire the boldness of the content. it resounds well without
hammering the topic home. it comes across very well.
glad to have found your voice! thanks for the great music! [ Reply to This ]
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Much brighter sound, the guitar sounds like it has a treble end, your
voice is very clear...
And the song has a sort of emphatic punch. It's not subtle. It says what
it says.
Don't be aftraid to do slower fades at the end of your tunes. You have a
fair amount of 'air' in your recordings, and if the fader comes down too
fast, it makes one conscious of the recording, not the song. Sit quiet as
the song ends, so you'll have the luxury of a slower fade. One of the
engineers I first worked with used to tell us to just freeze and hardly
move or breathe until every last bit of the last chord died away.
Can't wait to hear the next one, sir.
Ed
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