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Now and Then by chakeres [Email]
Genre: Hard Rock

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Description:
Well this is my latest hard rock piece. It started a while back as a simple guitar line that I recorded and promptly forgot about. The other day I came across the recording and started to add to what I had and ended up with this. It is more of an epic guitar song big sound and space with 5 guitar parts. Since this piece started I have gone through some philosophical changes and I'm in a little different place today then when I started it. I seem to have this on going conversation in my head about where I've been, where I'm at, and where I'm going so hence the title; Now and Then

Hardware:
G5 Duel, Fender Strat, Ibenez Bass, M-Box, Vox ToneLab

Software:
GB2, DoD
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Mr. Tabor?? &mdash 01/20/06 - 09:55:18 PM
This has a very King's X thing to the riff....quite cool...good straight forward rock with a groove and good chord changes. Like the colour to the overdrive, and a very nice lead with notes that I can tell you were feeling ....good jam!!! thanks for the invite to listen

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Mr. Tabor?? &mdash 01/21/06 - 02:32:29 AM
Spring thanks for the comments and i will check out King's X. Glad you
enjoyed the song.-JAC

---
"The blank canvas was the beach."

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gritty &mdash 01/20/06 - 10:02:45 PM
the guitar has a real rough gritty sound i love that. has an old rock feel to it. it's got a pretty good hook. the drums sound pretty good. not sure if it's real or loop. going back to old recordings is a good idea. maybe eventually you'll add some vocals? if not, still a cool instrumental.

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gritty &mdash 01/21/06 - 02:38:23 AM
Chance thanks for the listen and the comments. I had the same feeling as
you did that this song has an old rock vibe to it. Of course my roots are in
that old rock. Thanks again.-JAC

---
"The blank canvas was the beach."

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Excellent &mdash 01/20/06 - 11:00:27 PM
grooving, John. The gritty guitar goes with your song art. Nice thinned out bridge and then into a great lead. I think this is my favorite of yours.

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Excellent &mdash 01/21/06 - 02:45:09 AM
David I always look forward to your comments and I thought you might like
this one. I know how you like those epic songs. :-) I was pleased with the
results and the sounds I was able to get with the guitars. Thanks for the
listen and becoming a fan.-JAC

---
"The blank canvas was the beach."

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Chak Rock &mdash 01/21/06 - 06:41:24 AM
loved it.

Wish I had the time to write some words for it. Maybe one of these
days . . .

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Chak Rock &mdash 01/21/06 - 07:31:13 AM
Snow thanks for the listen and the comments. I think there is definitely room
for vocals in this song. Glad you like it.-JAC

---
"The blank canvas was the beach."

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whisked me away &mdash 01/21/06 - 10:44:53 AM
to a day when metal was king...........great listen, I was "hooked" from the
get go...........t

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whisked me away &mdash 01/23/06 - 10:23:05 AM
Thanks for the listen, I'm glad I was able to hook you and keep you till the end
of the song. Thanks for taking the time to comment.-JAC

---
"The blank canvas was the beach."

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Cool, but a little grating &mdash 01/21/06 - 09:22:15 PM
I like the riffs you're using here and the rock sound... but a couple of
comments with your structure and production.

You mentioned in the chat room that most of your guitar parts were
copied and pasted, which in itself can be fine, but the problem comes
from when you copy and paste everything the same way. Almost
everytime when a section was repeated (except the solo section), the
sound was exactly the same, same guitar lines, same amount of
guitars, same placement etc. Because there's little to no-recording of
the non-solo sections, there no variation or developement. An easy
and effective way to solve this would be to build up the parts through
the song. Ie, start off with the main lick, bass and drums... and each
time that section comes around, add another of the backing/rhythm
guitars. That way, even though non of the parts are technically
changing, theres a change in the density and more of an overall sense
of structure/building etc.

About the production... something about it forced me to turn it down
significantly because it hurt my hears (was wearing headphones).
Whats more, when I did this, I could only hear the main guitar and the
drums. My guess is that theres a little too much treble in the main
guitar... so either using a smoother distortion... or a slight lowpass/
treble reduction could make it alot easier to listen to. Turning down
the main guitar could help the mix a fair bit too, because as I said... at
the moment I can only really hear the main guitar and drums without
hurting my ears.

I do quite like the thinned out section right before the solo (which is
also quite cool)... and would certainly like to hear what happens with
this with vocals.

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Mistake &mdash 01/21/06 - 09:42:25 PM
Ok, mistake... the guitar parts arn't copied and pasted... he was joking in the
chat. But the comment about keeping things changing and evoling still
applies.

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The Composer, previously known as The Pianist who hasn't played the piano in a while...
<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/17268">Sampled Sister</a>

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Mistake &mdash 01/23/06 - 05:44:38 PM
TC thanks for your insightful comments. As for the repetition in the song, I
really had vocals in mind for the parts that repeat. I think that would create a
little variation and more dynamics. I mixed the song using my headphone and it
seemed fine to me. I did notice one thing, when I converted to an mp3 the
levels were boosted a bit and that may account for it sounding a bit loud on you
headphones. I still don't know why the levels were boosted because it has not
happened before. If I had the opportunity to re-up the song I would lower the
levels compensate. Also on the headphones for my laptop, which are not nearly
as good as the ones I mix with I did notice some clipping. Thanks for listening
and taking the time to comment.-JAC

---
"The blank canvas was the beach."

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There's some amazing stuff here &mdash 01/22/06 - 07:50:04 AM
I particularly like the stripped down bit in the middle. You're an excellent
guitarist and you do lots of fantastic stuff on this track - however, I'm in
agreement with The Composer, there needs to be more development as
the track has a similar density and feel for most of its length which gets a
bit wearing after a while.

KK

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cathartic &mdash 01/22/06 - 08:03:34 AM
hey chak,

it's always good to let your emotions roam and i'm glad you let it out
here. that's what writing music is all about. nice breakout halfway
deep. this is a great rip. sounds like you came home from an streddful
day and took a few cuts on your strat.

not sure if its the scope of your genre, but one dynamic suggestion
would be ot cut the drums out for a measure or two and fill in the
space with a thick synth pad... a breakdown, perhaps just before the
sonic explosion 1/2 way in.

nice ending, and the drums sounded real. well done.

-u.





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As always &mdash 01/22/06 - 12:54:28 PM
very attractive guitar sounds. Bass is very thin but I get the feeling you
like it that way. :)
thanks for sharing Chak

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As always &mdash 01/22/06 - 10:54:58 PM
i saw iggy pop in concert last night and this had a similar vibe....so thanks for nothing.....im so sore from dancing all night and now youve got me out of my chair getting a drawling boogie on......now im even sorer but better for it.................cheers

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\m/\m/

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my ears are bleeding... &mdash 01/23/06 - 04:00:42 AM
but in a good way!!! great energy! great playing!!! can i go back to simon and garfunkel now??!! xoxoxox @>---;---

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Epic, indeed &mdash 01/23/06 - 07:11:21 AM
Gritty, bloody and raw = very cool.
Fits the artwork perfectly (presuming the reddish brown letters are blood).

I agree with The Composer about the treble thingie - it sounds a little too
high, not that it hurt *my* ears; I have speakers :P

Cool track - you sure can rock that guitar of yours!

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rockin! &mdash 01/24/06 - 10:07:18 AM
i listened to this the other day and forgot to comment!

killer guitars! the opening riff is great... and it just keeps on going!

the drums on demand sound great too - very natural sounding.

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rockin! &mdash 01/24/06 - 10:09:13 AM
oh - the solos are great too, btw!

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I see slow motion &mdash 01/24/06 - 10:42:03 AM
I see people jumping out of helecopters fully equipped in slow motion. A
little specific :) This is definantly the music for prepping that action scene
in a movie. Invigorating. Downloaded.

Ben

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Wake up and smell the beat &mdash 01/25/06 - 09:40:59 AM
Ripples in my coffee cup!

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Can't sit still &mdash 01/25/06 - 09:55:33 AM
when I'm between a ROCK and a CHAK place! Great stuff, very spacious
descent in the middle there, as we hold our breath on the way down to
floor Dante-7. Driving beat, great growly guitar playing... and this
definitely yearns for some lead singing over it.
ttfn,
Drakonis

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HEY DUDE! &mdash 01/25/06 - 10:22:52 AM
I'm smokin a doob right now and enjoying your solo! Nice work! I just spilled some hash on the couch! Damn! I'll smoke the cushion! Great groove man! Damn I'm high!

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pretty cool man... &mdash 01/25/06 - 07:11:05 PM
...the only thing that I would add woulb be vocals, but it's still a good
listen.

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Dayum! &mdash 01/26/06 - 06:46:31 AM
I really like the swampy, driving feel you've created with this tune. It's hard. It's rock. When the guitar kicks in after the bridge it requires foot stompin' and head bobbin'. Yeah. This rocks. Great tune. Thx for sharing it here.

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Sound like my thing &mdash 01/26/06 - 08:14:39 AM
Your description of the progress on this, is in many ways how I end up too. One day I may come up with a guitar riff that I get in the groove with. Maybe i fancy it so much that i bother to record it for later. And when I pick it up again after some days, I usually don't get the same groovy feeling it gave me the other day...

Well this riff of yours is a nice tight one. I can imagine it being a hook-line to a good rock'n roll tune. Nice crunchy sound in that guitar.

Well done:)

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Crispy Rocks! &mdash 01/27/06 - 08:05:03 AM
Crunch crunch crunch crunch!

Great beat. Head nods!

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Crunching and Wailing &mdash 01/28/06 - 08:16:26 AM
Just what you need to wake you up on a Saturdat mornng!

Excellent guitar work. Lots of power, helped along by the nice, thick,
punchy percussion. The solo wails nicely. I hope you decide to go a head
and lay done some lyrics with this.

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Oh YES &mdash 02/01/06 - 08:12:01 AM
Excellent and passionate playing Chak
I have this cranked up in itunes... hehehe :)
Love the echoing break in the middle that goes into that riff..
awesome.

D/L
Slimmie


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man, oh man &mdash 02/10/06 - 07:04:14 AM
what a classic sounding rift. can't you just see everyone getting to the
stage? Totally cool in my book. Sweeeeet changes. Rawk on, dude.

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man, oh man &mdash 02/10/06 - 07:07:42 AM
what a classic sounding rift. can't you just see everyone getting to the
stage? Totally cool in my book. Sweeeeet changes. Rawk on, dude.

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excellent &mdash 02/24/06 - 10:16:11 PM
I would have to agree with the first comment. This is very much a
King's X flavored song. You can never go wrong there. I would
also have to agree with many of the other comments, this is a very
wonderfully catchy tune. Keep up the good work.

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psychomachia &mdash 04/06/06 - 09:07:42 AM
I like the way the different parts tear and try to pull apart this piece. If those clashes (and that long dramatic pause) represent a philosophical battle going on within your head, it feels like it's an epic struggle - a regular pyschomachia!

Yet, the piece ultimately holds together - a testament to the enduring human spirit.

Well - this may be a bit over-the-top in the interpretation department. However, one does get the feeling from the sound of those guitars that something monumental is going on. I especially like the opening theme - it hooks you right in - as well as the counterpart that plays off of it.

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great tune &mdash 10/17/06 - 05:03:25 PM
a little sound garden , a little hendrix overall it kicks like this 0ne alot

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You rock &mdash 05/27/07 - 01:19:15 PM
CHAK!

This kind of rock is a source of inspiration to me. On all of my albums, my favorites are heavy rock like this.... I'm smiling:):):)

. - Harold

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I rock :-) &mdash 05/27/07 - 03:26:06 PM
Hey Harold, glad you enjoyed it. Yeah heavy rock is what gets me going.

Thanks,

JAC

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"It's All Been Done Before"

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