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Red Willow by Doadars Uncle [Email]
Genre: Art Rock

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Uploaded: Jun 04, 2006 - 09:13:59 PM
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Description:
I'm trying an instrumental. Who knows?

guitar, perc loops and keyed, misc tones and melodies.

Hardware:
Mac G4 dp
Fender acoustic
Ibanez electric
fingers

Software:
GB1
MidiKeys
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Trippy! &mdash 06/05/06 - 12:01:36 AM
An interesting piece, this. I'm not positive the percussion always works,
but I like it overall. Creative. Ambient in places. Guitars from mid-section
on sound great. Reminds me of many an odd album track from back in
the psychedelic sixties (according to what I've been told---I was there).

Be well!

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Trippy! &mdash 06/05/06 - 12:39:23 PM
Thanks Michael!

Good comments.

The percussion issue might be during the first transition. It is a bit
disarrayed. Even still, I'm proud for getting this far!

Thanks for taking a moment!

Doug

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Mixed Bag &mdash 06/05/06 - 01:03:59 PM
Parts of this were quite good indeed! However I would have to agree
that the early percussion needs some work and the transition from the
acoustic guitar to the midi was sort of abrupt. However I really like
your guitar work especially the acoustic.


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Mixed Bag &mdash 06/05/06 - 01:32:31 PM
Thanks Bronco,

I am honored you stopped by!

Stopped by your "...Blues", Telecaster is sounding great!

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Not quite &mdash 06/05/06 - 02:43:26 PM
The percussion in the early section sounds too mechanical and
antithetical to the luscious guitar. Like little mitebots trying to eat the
flesh of your guitar. Too much miscellany. Sounds like the merger of
several songs. I waited too long to find a center post. The groove in the
last 2/3 of the song is paydirt.

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Not quite &mdash 06/05/06 - 02:44:14 PM
I meant the last 1/3 of the song.

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Not quite &mdash 06/05/06 - 03:42:52 PM
Richard!

Pleasure to hear from you!

"little mitebots trying to eat the flesh of your guitar" Yum.

Comments noted!

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thoughts &mdash 06/05/06 - 03:06:25 PM
liking the mellow ambiant part. its a little weird when it transitions into what sounds like a flut and then it goes to guitar. the guitar is pretty cool/ sounds like it was recorded at the ocean, when it goes into distortion it seems like a bit of an awkward change like it was just thrown in there, this has alot of cool ideas but sometimes it feels like things are forcively put together, sounds like you could take the ideas and make 2 or 3 seperate songs. like the melody near the end.

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thoughts &mdash 06/05/06 - 03:47:36 PM
Scream,

Thanks for appreciating the mellow part. I will keep this in some form or
another.

Will work on changes.

Thanks for taking the time!

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thoughts &mdash 06/05/06 - 03:52:06 PM
no problem. its got ideas in it, i think over time you can develop it to flow together more.

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Take with a grain of salt &mdash 06/05/06 - 03:18:05 PM
I imagine an intro to the song of the acoustic guitar only, for a few
measures, then the introduction of percussion during the next few
measures, and a continuance of guitar during the esoteric interlude.

A re-introduction of the main arpeggiated melody, over the second
guitar section, with a slightly different segue into the rock section,
once again recapitulating the original guitar theme, and perhaps a
second variation on your interlude, with slighty more dynamics, to
bring a cohesivenes - making it a complete composition... with an
ending that blends all the elements together better.

Synoposis: the arrangement is in question, the percussion quavers, the
instrumental performances are fine. The production would fall into
place, once these suggestions were considered and implemented.

No reciprocation is necessary. I was glad to comply with your request
for a comment, as you delivered it very well in the forums.

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Take with a grain of salt &mdash 06/05/06 - 03:36:35 PM
Gracious thanks, Alimar!

I believe you are one of the masters of composition!

I will take more time with this one. I like multiple themes but have always
had difficulties with transitions.

Thanks again!

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nice jam feel........ &mdash 06/05/06 - 03:54:18 PM
very free formed n trippy with all the percussive textures. nice changeups with the guitar tones...... some work a little better than others. the transition a little after half way was a little too jarring for this track. a little longer of a transition into it might have been nice....... the section itself is nice n uplifting...... it's difficult, i think, to make tracks that delve into non-formed compositions........ nice track all around for sure.........

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nice jam feel........ &mdash 06/05/06 - 10:13:59 PM
Thanks a great deal! Lots to think about.

I'm intrigued with the idea of extending it to benefit the transitions.

Wouldn't it be nice as a half hour jam thing?

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A lot going on! &mdash 06/05/06 - 04:37:29 PM
There's a lot going on here; lots of good ideas, kind of spliced onto
one another. Idea 1 has a nice happy feel, but the acoustic guitar is a
little out of tune. Idea 2 is kind of trippy, experimental, and I REALLY
liked it. I guess I like experimental stuff. I also like idea 3, with the
steady ride cymbal against a simple acoustic guitar vamp. The electric
guitar solo is good and interesting. Idea 4 is the fuzz guitar stuff,
sounding kind of like southern rock from my youth in the '70s, and
basically it works well too.

Maybe you tried to put too much into one song, but even if you did, it
all still works, and I'd encourage you to do more of this stuff.

For what it's worth, most of the people I teach come up with pretty
good compositional ideas, but the thing everybody has to work harder
on is what to do with the ideas, how to develop them, how to structure
them so that it all makes musical sense, and how to transition from
one idea to the next.

Really enjoyed this!

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A lot going on! &mdash 06/05/06 - 10:20:28 PM
Teacher!

This is encouraging, indeed!

I understand that it might be too much. But maybe, not enough.

My biggest issue is impatience. I will try to sit on this for awhile, check some
angles, perspectives.

It might go somewhere. It is a lot of fun, at the very least!

Thanks!

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I liked these pieces. &mdash 06/05/06 - 10:15:24 PM
All together it seems like more of a sampler than a unified whole. But each sample was very tasty and I think they all could be separately expanded to create several instrumentals. The last part in particular would make a terrific soundbed to a vocal or a longer instrumental jam. Very enjoyable performances and production overall though. Thanks for sharing your experiment!

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I liked these pieces. &mdash 06/05/06 - 10:34:28 PM
Magritte!

I agree. The last segment could be one of those extended jams ... days long
as each MacJammer gets their appropriate solo.

Thanks for the solid comments!

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melba toast &mdash 10/06/07 - 11:10:54 PM
You make interesting music!

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Much Thanks! &mdash 10/07/07 - 06:21:46 PM
Thanks for taking the time, Mr. Pokey!

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