What I Was Thinking While You Were Talking (w/ Ziti, Mungo)

TobinMueller

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This track represents my first collaboration with both Ziti and Mungo. It started when I heard Mungo's ambient track The Temple of Doow Remmaj based on Ziti's Woodjammer One. I totally dug Mungo's completely amorphic remix of ziti's acoustic guitar solo. But I heard potential form there, some places to reshape, and asked to join in. I ended up changing it more than I had intended. It was great fun.

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Hits: 3402
Comments: 41
Fans: 15
Plays: 505
Downloads: 178
Votes: 21
Uploaded: Jun 14, 2006 - 08:37:48 AM
Last Updated: Jul 14, 2006 - 09:45:56 AM Last Played: Nov 23, 2009 - 09:47:07 AM

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Ziti (31), Mungo (16), organ (87), Moog (13), Fender Rhodes (2), collaboration (115), chill (95), blues (499), ambient (613), jam (75), new age (128)

Hardware:

This marks the first track done on my new G5 Quad.

Software:

Cameleon 5000, MX4, B4 II, FM7, Elektrik Piano, Soundsoap, Peak, GB 3, DP 5, Live 5

Comments

	said 1260 days ago (June 14th, 2006)
	Nice to hear a song... from you Tobin. I can't comment now. Just wanted to let you know I like this collab... Jack

TobinMueller

TobinMueller said 1260 days ago (June 14th, 2006)

Nice to hear a song...
Yes, its good to be back. After spending the last 7 months helping my father
recover to the point where he can succeed in an assisted living facility,
becoming functional (with help) within a protected environment, gaining an
aspect of his independence back, it is good to begin to reclaim my own life. I
have lots of musical ideas waiting to pour out. This track was something that I
used to learn some new software, and to pay homage to two MJ stalwarts. I'm
looking forward to a good summer.

Check out my latest song called Forge A New Life (MJRF)

Mcboy	Mcboy said 1260 days ago (June 14th, 2006)
	hey man welcome back to the outlet , the petri dish that is macjams...hheeehehhe......that gospel time organ sure is shcweett and righteous.....a nice thick gumbo of galaxian atmospheres.....kool....! Check out my latest song called Heros( aclarke/mcboy)

TobinMueller	TobinMueller said 125 days ago (July 23rd, 2009)
	thick gumbo of galaxian atmosphere Way cool phraseology, bro. I love thick gumbos, audioly speaking, to be sure...! Check out my latest song called Forge A New Life (MJRF)

perceptualvortex	perceptualvortex said 1260 days ago (June 14th, 2006)
	Sweet timbres Your attention to detail always makes for such great listening. I really liked this one, awesome collaboration! Check out my latest song called Machine Man (w Beastie Boys)

bronco	bronco said 1260 days ago (June 14th, 2006)
	Technological Tour De Force Not sure what the title I came up with means except to say this is damn good. I would never have the patience to sit and sinc two different tunes together with my own playing. Incredible that you could not only do it but also make it sound as good as this. Kudo's! Check out my latest song called Strange Feeling

Stun Nutz	Stun Nutz said 1260 days ago (June 14th, 2006)
	whew! Very enjoyable and seamless blend of styles... hope to hear more soon! Check out my latest song called Gossamer dissected

	said 1260 days ago (June 14th, 2006)
	trippy trip , flowing like the Nile. Loved the organ and moog sounds. Great keys, and the arragement of the sounds and parts was excellent. Digging it. CheeRs

thoddi	thoddi said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
	yeah What a treat this was. Way cool organ and guitar topped with some tasty electronica spice. You guys are pro to the bone, and I would surely buy tickets to hear this live. Just imaging what cool lighting effects you could have on stage to this music.. Good to see you find time to work with music Tobin:) Check out my latest song called Don't tell me what I can't w/KTB and Ingve

	said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
	Welcome Back And what a wonderful mixture of Ziti and my work into something utterly new and fascinating. Thanks, Tobin.

TobinMueller

TobinMueller said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)

Welcome Back
It was your original derivative that inspired me to try something, so you deserve
the biggest thanks. This was great fun, mainly because, as I think back, it is as
if I was actually playing with Ziti in the studio, passing ideas back and forth,
since he was so alive in my imagination throughout. A real treat. And the sense
of alive that existed in your track was something I was continually aspiring to. I
enjoyed finding a chord progression to your morphic ambiences. This made
learning the new software a pleasure. Thanks for letting me mess with it all.

Check out my latest song called Forge A New Life (MJRF)

GUION	GUION said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
	Great Nice sound. They have obtained a great harmonic atmosphere. Good sound of guitars and keyboards. I like this. Muy bueno. Check out my latest song called Baxar

Morris R

Morris R said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)

Very skillfully done
From the description it seems you must really know your way around all
that equipment, and it sounds nice, but I'm embarrassed to admit it's over
my head. I guess I was hearing it like an introduction to something, so I
kept waiting for something with a more regular beat, but in doing so I
obviously missed the point! I'll give it a few more listens, because I'm new
to this sort of music.

Tadashi Togawa	Tadashi Togawa said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
	Far journey course. This sound associates travel. Various events on the way of travel. Image composition. Check out my latest song called Mexican taste

thetiler	thetiler said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
	cool pic and music The beginning almost reminds me of that movie from Beauty and the Best. Cool Z sounds, Like the Beatle's reversed sounds as well amongts many other things. Nice stuff. Check out my latest song called The Bluebird Cafe (with two other guest)

thetiler	thetiler said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
	cool pic and music The beginning almost reminds me of that movie from Beauty and the Best. Cool Z sounds, Like the Beatle's reversed sounds as well amongts many other things. Nice stuff. Check out my latest song called The Bluebird Cafe (with two other guest)

Parichayaka

Parichayaka said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)

Fantastic mix!
I love it when you can just listen to something and enjoy the beauty of a piece and at the same time enjoy the subtleties of the arrangement, melodies and overall mix. This piece satisfies all of the above! Starts out quite simple, with a bit of synth magic, and quickly goes into a masterfully mixed combination of spontanous jamming (great organ playing Tobin, played myself for many years but your improvisation is totally in synch with the other instruments with every note being spot on. The rhythm changes are genius!!!). Especially like the expansion about a third into the piece, with the reverse synth holding back and keeping the tension. Could go on and on here, but let me just say that it was quite an experience listening to this beautiful collaboration!!! Certainly worth every minute of your time!

You mentioned Sound Soap...can i ask if you got "Pro" or the regular version (curious about your expert opinion as I'm looking into getting it myself)?

Check out my latest song called f12

TobinMueller

TobinMueller said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)

Fantastic mix!
Thanks for your comments. I got the Soundsoap Pro version and can't recall
what extra it does but I am very happy with the results so far except for when I
was using it inside Peak and would get rid of click, which it did remarkably well,
it would sometimes add a click at the beginning of the highlighted field I was
working in; and when I used it on the entire track it created other anomalies
here and there throughout, but I think this was due to the already compressed
nature of the track. If I would have had Soundsoap before I started, to
use on the raw tracks before I started adding my own layers, I would have saved
myself tons of headaches, which is one of the reasons I got it. I was trying to fix
stuff on my mastered track and it proved challenging. When in doubt, I
always go for the Pro versions.

Check out my latest song called Forge A New Life (MJRF)

Parichayaka	Parichayaka said 1258 days ago (June 16th, 2006)
	Fantastic mix! Thanks very much, Tobin. Expert opinion is priceless! Check out my latest song called f12

iG.STUDiO	iG.STUDiO said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
	Very nice Rich and tasteful, totally enjoyable. Nice to have you back. Check out my latest song called Le Rêve De Solange

vbluesky	vbluesky said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
	cool jam welcome back, am a newbee here and I enjoy listening to yours and other jammers songs and the sounds you 3 created are beautiful, production is tight. thanks 4 the jam Check out my latest song called SMILE ( onesweetworld Remix )

vbluesky	vbluesky said 1259 days ago (June 15th, 2006)
	cool jam welcome back, am a newbee here and I enjoy listening to yours and other jammers songs and the sounds you 3 created are beautiful, production is tight. thanks 4 the jam and very cool art work and art web site Check out my latest song called SMILE ( onesweetworld Remix )

macgalver	macgalver said 1258 days ago (June 16th, 2006)
	fantastic Man, this is gorgeous. Congrats, guys. I love how you've blended everything. You have painted quite a sonic portrait. It's lovely. Love everything about it. All I can say is thanks for sharing this with us. -- your fan, kelli Check out my latest song called First Sight

macgalver	macgalver said 1258 days ago (June 16th, 2006)
	fantastic Man, this is gorgeous. Congrats, guys. I love how you've blended everything. You have painted quite a sonic portrait. It's lovely. Love everything about it. All I can say is thanks for sharing this with us. -- your fan, kelli Check out my latest song called First Sight

moorlandt	moorlandt said 1258 days ago (June 16th, 2006)
	I got nostalgic Reminds me of the many good tunes I listened to in my teenages (gosh, that's about a century ago...). Complex and simple at the same time. Tastefully and subtile as ever. Great job all three of you. Walter Check out my latest song called boundaries

ziti

ziti said 1258 days ago (June 16th, 2006)

hey i think I'm in there
i remember being alone with an acoustic guitar...and my little pipe...
and posting some guitar noodling......nah this can't be THAT???....can
it?...this is really overhelming tobin, the effort you put in here is
amazing, that my little bit of guitar noodling could turn into this...i
thought mungos permutation was very enjoyable as well, but this is
quite a surprise....we should try one that starts with an electric guitar
improv...

deep bow to you sir!

z

Check out my latest song called All Smokey

TobinMueller	TobinMueller said 1257 days ago (June 17th, 2006)
	hey i think I'm in there Yes, yes, I'd love to try on that is an electric guitar improv, especially if it leans toward a organ-lsened Prog tune. Please rip one down and send me the AIFF. I can't wait! Include as many change of directions as you want, and key shifts. This time I will Soundsoap it before I merge in into the mix... Check out my latest song called Forge A New Life (MJRF)

Pie	Pie said 1257 days ago (June 17th, 2006)
	Love it I've been a bit lazy in my MacJams attendence of late and this is one of the first tracks I have listened to in a a while. Wow! I'm glad i did. I loved it. The first two or three seconds had me thinking "oh no, cheese" but how wrong could I be. Marvellous. Bloody Marvellous! Check out my latest song called Kaleidoscope (Single)

Ed Hannifin

Ed Hannifin said 1256 days ago (June 18th, 2006)

This is thick and rich and musical...
It's like organic psychedelia... 'Tomorrow Never Knows' on steroids... I
mean, like, all natural, organic steroids...

I LOVE backwards guitar...

See, this sounds progressive and experimental and all that, but it never
fails to be musical... That's the unfailing Tobin hallmark...

And yeah, it's good to have you back in the MacJams gene pool, Tobin.

Ed

Check out my latest song called Next Time Around (w/jiguma)

bug67

bug67 said 1256 days ago (June 18th, 2006)

Love that organ!
This was very well produced. Some very interesting sounds going on.
Love the reversing effect on the guitar. The organs are extremely
powerful and full of low range grind. I love that kind of stuff! I
understand this to be an ambient piece? Fine by me. It's just that I kept
waiting for this to, I dunno, change keys or something. Can't quite put
my finger on it. Overall, an excelent performance by all involved.
Production is top notch.

Check out my latest song called Follow the Bouncing Bear With the Kazoo Blues in E (MJRF)

TobinMueller

TobinMueller said 1256 days ago (June 18th, 2006)

Love that organ!
Yes, I usually change keys several times during an instrumental piece, but I was
playing along to Ziti's base track on this one and he stuck to his tonic. If you
like key changes, please check out "I Sail On" (song #8741, rearranged in song
#10271); any of my Jazz pieces; "Revolution's Son" (song #11303); and
"Escaping The Fray Zone" (#5035). Thanks for your comments. The backward
sounds were all done by Mungo. I love them too; it was what originally drew me
to the project.

Check out my latest song called Forge A New Life (MJRF)

	said 1255 days ago (June 19th, 2006)
	Yes... nice work on the production (musta been a bear!). my favorite section is about 2/3 thru with the interchange between organ and guitar. the reverse sounds set up piece very well. nice work all!

TobinMueller	TobinMueller said 1254 days ago (June 20th, 2006)
	Yes... The interplay between organ and guitar is my favorite part too. I like how it sounds like Ziti is playing responses to my organ melody, even tho it was recorded the other way around. Thanks for your comments. Check out my latest song called Forge A New Life (MJRF)

VicDiesel	VicDiesel said 1255 days ago (June 19th, 2006)
	Very 70s Sort of a Tangerine Dream slow jamming movement. I dig this. It's not really what's considered ambient these days, but I can't think of a better label at the moment. What's the analogue sounding synth that comes in halfway? That definitely establishes a 70s vibe. Check out my latest song called Desert Stars

TobinMueller	TobinMueller said 1254 days ago (June 20th, 2006)
	Very 70s The synth is a Moog lead patch in MOTU's MX4 2.0. I always dug the synths in the 70s. Yes, this isn't mainstream Ambient, it has more of an ambient blues vibe, but luckily there isn't such a category, so I just opted for Ambient, since that was more the emotion the track ended up floating into. Check out my latest song called Forge A New Life (MJRF)

Scott Carmichael	Scott Carmichael said 1254 days ago (June 20th, 2006)
	takes me away remenicant of Yes passages on the album, close to the edge, that will always get my attention... quite a visual journey you guys take us on here, transitions seem smooth, and supprising, I'd be interested to know how you did sync up the tempo change, that had to be a challenge... great work here... thanx for the free trip Check out my latest song called Good Morning

	freshjives said 1253 days ago (June 20th, 2006)
	Great beginning I loved the beginning, soooo soothing. Great work by all of you. Hope to hear more from you all! The guitar and organs sounded really nice. Loved the plucking of the strings. Organ somehow got on my nerves every now and then, but it was good. Check out my latest song called Eating Away

ceeb666

ceeb666 said 1253 days ago (June 21st, 2006)

Total Trip
Loved the trippy vibe all through this track, it is like listening to the
soundtrack to Woodstock. The keys were awesome and the production
and effects extremely intelligent. You've done this before right? ;)

The song was definately Ambient and I just love the Distorted Reverse
Hammond Style Organ - whatever it was!! Awesome. How did you do
the reverse - was this engineered or was it a preset software
instrument? I'd love to (but don't know how to) do this with guitar.

Check out my latest song called Dogsick

TobinMueller	TobinMueller said 1233 days ago (July 11th, 2006)
	Total Trip The reverse stuff was done by Mungo, so you should email him to find out. It was all software induced: He took ziti's original track and filtered it a hundred different ways. When I reverse stuff, I use Peak and reverse phrase by phrase, so it can be quite time consuming to make it sound musical. Thanks for your comments. Check out my latest song called Forge A New Life (MJRF)

composerclark

composerclark said 1232 days ago (July 11th, 2006)

Free jam
kink of like a free jam, people responding to each other with no set
musical form in mind. I like the freedom, the openness. As others have
indicated, Mungo's reverse sounds really capture the ear when they occur.
I kind of wished it would modulate at some point(s), but as you point out
in an earlier response, the harmonic framework you worked with was
fixed before you got to this. Fun and most enjoyable.

Check out my latest song called Scarlet Nightfall

	said 717 days ago (December 9th, 2007)
	Impressed ! Truly Masterpiece .. Hats off friends

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Name: Tobin Mueller

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