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Description:
Imagine travelling in a Winter dream, down a moonlight river, slowly drifting through a huge forest of strangely gnarled, beautiful trees and gigantic ferns. Your breath crackles and turns to icy frost, and every heartbeat echoes through the snowy stillness like a crystal bell. There is something both awesomely beautiful and serene, and awfully terrifying about this place, as if at any moment, the vision will shatter like deadly shards of glass and kill you instantly... you dare not breathe.

Well, I didn't write this music. I let a computer generate it automatically for me. "Generative Music" or "Algorithmic music" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_music, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic_music) has been around for decades, and it is usually rambling, discordant, non-rhythmic, and just plain ugly sounding. In this case, I actually created one that wasn't too bad, and did very little to make it sound interesting.

First, I went to the "WolframTones" web site (http://tones.wolfram.com/, yes, Wolfram as in the "Mathematica" software) and spent about 1/2 hour twiddling knobs and creating various generations of fractal ambient music until I got one I liked. Then I told it to download/e-mail the MIDI file to me. You can hear the original un-tweaked version here (http://tones.wolfram.com/id/GANRCBTcqQi6ZA1Xp6tBuxsxAzDZgMNtTOgxEvyaBu). Then I imported that MIDI file into Harmony Assistant, because I found that if you just drop the Wolfram MIDI file into GarageBand, it imports all the MIDI instruments into ONE track/instrument in GarageBand for some reason. But loading it into Harmony Assistant separates/re-assigns the MIDI channels so they will properly import into GarageBand as separate instruments. And while it was in Harmony Assistant, I added a first measure for an introduction, and a last measure for an ending chord, and I added a clarinet part as an occasional bit of color. Then I exported it as MIDI and pulled it into Garageband, assigned new GB instruments to each track, and tweaked the instruments to sound crystalline and eerie. And here is the result. Serene and angular. Beautifully asymmetrical. Or maybe, just boring and useless music.

The artwork above is a fractal curve or wave, crashing over the WolframTones graphic display of the generated music, which in turn is converted into actual music notes.

The high-quality music video on DVD is coming soon... in the mean time, here's a peek at the trailer: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOROyAQBgDA)

Thanks to Roxylee for her suggestion to go back to an earlier slower version of the ending.

Hardware:
Macintosh dual 1Ghz G4, dancing to the algorithms of mathematical nightmares.

Software:
Fractal-generated music from the WolframTones web site (http://tones.wolfram.com/), imported and little bits added in Harmony Assistant composition software, then MIDI-imported into Garageband for final instrument tweaks, conversion to MP3 by LAME MP3 converter
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Amazing what a musical genius &mdash 07/15/06 - 09:23:05 PM
can do on a computer. I never heard of all this stuff until you told me
about it. Very beautiful fractal math music! I've listened to this 5 times
and it gets prettier and prettier. Downloaded and faved. :-)

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Amazing what a musical genius &mdash 07/15/06 - 10:08:33 PM
Heehee, that's partly why I did this, to see what could be done, and then give
breadcrumb URLs up in the description for other people to find out about it.
Mostly, to show that we won't be replaced by computers any time soon... you
saw how hard it was to get anything interesting off that site :-) We software
engineers will just have to try harder to write auto-composition software, and I
have some ideas, all I need is some time. :-) Thank you again for listening to
and critiquing the early versions, and thinking of Narnia at the same time I
did! :-)
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20224">Border Merger Waltz</a>

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COMPLETELY FACINATING! &mdash 07/16/06 - 08:44:33 AM
I do not understand it all, but i do agree about the "serene, angular,
beautiful, and asymmetrical" . Thanks for the beautiful introduction and
art in this area! The NightBird;)

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COMPLETELY FACINATING! &mdash 07/16/06 - 10:00:28 AM
And thank you, LightBird, for listening and commenting! I just synchronized
with you by commenting on your latest ambient piece in return! :-) I've always
found mathematics to be somewhat like dragons... terrifyingly beautiful.
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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Nice &mdash 07/16/06 - 09:50:54 AM
First paragraph in the song description; I did picture that and it was very fitting. Well, I don't think algorithmic music has ever sounded so nice, this is actually a very pretty ambient piece. But even more so, it's an amazing exercise in unique approaches to making art, and a successful one. I've always liked the idea of math and fractal based music, though I haven't had a clue how to go about turning algorithms into aesthetic sound (maybe I'll check out those links you put there). Very cool concept and execution on this song.

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Nice &mdash 07/16/06 - 03:22:32 PM
Hi PV, I've played with a number of "fractal music generators" in the past decade,
and other algorithmic music creation software, and they all pretty much create
discordant arhythmic cacophany... at least to my ear. Even this Wolfram one is
pretty hard to get anything interesting out of... but I did grab one, and with the
right instrumentation, it is OK. After listening and tweaking it for a couple
hours, the descriptive paragraph just popped out of my brain. I think I listened
to it to much though, because sometimes I start whistling parts of it now.
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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MAN!!! &mdash 07/16/06 - 10:08:15 AM
this is some cool stuff here, dragon. it is a very soulful computer
mind...or something....

but right up my alley...very sad and powerful and human sounding...

congrats and deep bows to you for imagining it then making it happen!

the recording is just beautiful....not a tweak needed
anywhere...wowowowow....right in the pod, thank you


z

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MAN!!! &mdash 07/16/06 - 03:29:40 PM
There is something very soulful about this... maybe its the lonely clarinet that
dares to voice its sorrow to the deaf forest around it. Glad to know that I
created something that will live on your iPod. Someday I'll have a whole CD
worth... but by then you'll have 20 CDs of great music... thank you for your
encouragement and friendship Fran!
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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Cool Site &mdash 07/16/06 - 10:17:16 AM
But it wouldn't let me set 13 notes per beat for hip hop. ;)
(BTW, did you have any problems with your midi drivers after visiting the
site? I needed to reboot my machine before Logic or GB would start
properly.)
The particular tones you chose remind me of some early synclavier work,
before the machine had a sampler.
Excellent experiment and production, drak.


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Cool Site &mdash 07/16/06 - 03:45:20 PM
Thanks Bill! I had no problems with my Mac MIDI stuff after playing at the
site, but then I don't have any unusual MIDI driver software installed. I *did*
find that the MIDI files that it would create and send to me were a little odd...
when I imported one straight into GarageBand, GB didn't recognize the
different instruments and dumped all the instruments into one GB track. I
don't have a MIDI file analyzer, so I don't know if they didn't assign different
channels to different instruments, or what. But my Harmony Assistant music
software could import the MIDI OK, and then it could write out a more
"proper" MIDI file, that GarageBand imported correctly as separate tracks.
Weird.

I had a lot of fun experimenting with this to see what I could come up with,
and I wanted to post some of the steps of my experiment, in case others want
to play. I am not familiar with the Synclavier, was it a Moog/Korg/Kurzweil
thing, or something else? (Another thing for me to "google", now that google
is a real verb in the dictionary :-)
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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Cool Site &mdash 07/16/06 - 05:06:32 PM
It was a synth put out by New England Digital in the early 1980's - Stevie
Wonder, George Duke, Frank Zappa, Eddie Jobson, John McLaughlin (and others)
had them. Synclaviers are no longer in production, AFAIK.
If you're wondering what an early one sounds like, a good example is Frank
Zappa's "Francesco Zappa" album. It's very synthetic sounding and, because of
it, the FZ album sounds like baroque chamber musak. (Francesco was an 18th
century composer and the stuff sounds nothing like Frank's music.)

---
Ars longa, vita brevis.

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this one... &mdash 07/16/06 - 12:04:27 PM
seems to feet in a fantasy film.. The ambient is beautiful and dark at the same time.. this one is pretty good.. this is not a boring useless music. this one is excellent

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this one... &mdash 07/16/06 - 04:48:03 PM
Thank you for getting into the fantasy of this experiment. My wife said it
sounded like it should be the soundtrack to the old gothic fantasy movie
"Legend" (Tom Cruise/Tim Curry). Maybe I should have my android meet your
android for lunch.
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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yeah! &mdash 07/16/06 - 12:19:09 PM
This would be a great addition to a film score... the algorithm keeps it
consistently pretty all the way through, without becoming overly
repititious. The math geek in me loves the concept of algorithmic music
too... like Boards of Canada say, "music is math". Kudos for bringing it to
MJ!

-Theis

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yeah! &mdash 07/16/06 - 12:19:13 PM
This would be a great addition to a film score... the algorithm keeps it
consistently pretty all the way through, without becoming overly
repititious. The math geek in me loves the concept of algorithmic music
too... like Boards of Canada say, "music is math". Kudos for bringing it to
MJ!

-Theis

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yeah! &mdash 07/16/06 - 05:02:40 PM
Yes, I liked the variances in rhythm that made it interesting throughout, and the
math geek in me has been disillusioned by the blandness of most generative art,
except fractals and IFS. Finding this little gem and polishing it up was a lot of
fun. I just had to share, and I'm glad you saw it go by, I was thinking you'd like
the idea.
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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Excellent Production &mdash 07/16/06 - 12:37:15 PM
Despite the music being randomly generated, your choices for input, instrumentation, and tweaks really make this your own. Good work. :)

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Excellent Production &mdash 07/16/06 - 05:08:59 PM
Luckily it wasn't randomly generated, but followed a "pattern", which makes it
more coherent than truly random music (I've played with that too, that's really
nasty sounding stuff :-) But yes, the crystal bells and warm pads gave a nice
ambience to this. I may have to try this again sometime, it was fun! Computers
will never be able to write ragtime, though.
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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Excellent Production &mdash 07/16/06 - 10:36:40 PM
Not ever be able to write Ragtime? Don't bet on that. If I were paid the right amount, I could probably write a formula for coming up with just about any genre of music. ;)

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Very nice! &mdash 07/16/06 - 12:45:34 PM
I've listened to fractal pieces before. This is one of the best I've heard.
Ambient and Moody. Yes, like moonlight reflected on a lake. Or a budding
romance between wind chimes (!). Lovely.

Be well!

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Very nice! &mdash 07/16/06 - 08:13:28 PM
A budding romance between windchimes, I love it! I always found it kind of
kinky when the two windchimes got entangled like that.

Yes, most math-induced music sounds lifeless, but this seems to have a life of
its own... almost soothing... but I'd never go to sleep with it playing, who knows
what crystal nightmares I'd have!

Thanks for checking it out... I may have to do another one of these later.

ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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math &mdash 07/16/06 - 12:46:35 PM
never sounded so beautiful......!

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math &mdash 07/16/06 - 09:47:18 PM
Hey, glad this caught your eye, or ear! Now if only I can make my teenage
daughter believe that math is beautiful.
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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Sit back... &mdash 07/16/06 - 01:01:20 PM
...and relax... let the computer take you to a new world. Very inventive of
you. It IS yours!

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Sit back... &mdash 07/16/06 - 09:55:49 PM
"take a deep breath, relax... let the music be your guiding light..." - Enigma

Yes, it *is* mine now, I did work on it quite a bit before letting it be seen in
public. Thank you for checking out this experiment and commenting on it!
ttfn,
Drakonis


---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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Verrry Interesting! &mdash 07/16/06 - 03:14:19 PM
I did not read your description until after I heard the peice....I was
thinking how well controlled it was, and no wonder...The interesting thing
is it has a full "symphonic feel" to it...Seems to me there is a concept
album in there someplace, like "Switched on Bach" by Walter Carlos.
Amazingly good considering the in and outs of it...A definite download for
me..Thanks.....I have a friend who developed the theater system at the
Hollywood Bowl...I'll pass this along to him. He'll get a kick out of
it...Peace, Norman


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Verrry Interesting! &mdash 07/17/06 - 02:09:40 PM
Hehehe, I'm not sure if I, or anyone else could handle an entire concept album of
this stuff, unless I did some really creative stuff to each piece... but I'm starting
to think that a music video would be cool to go along with it, floating through a
"Bryce"-like hyper-realistic ray traced landscape. I'd love to hear what your
friend thinks of the music and ideas... send me an e-mail with his reaction, even
if it is belly-laughs or clutching his ears. :-)
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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Nice &mdash 07/16/06 - 04:01:27 PM
I kept waiting for the Death Metal to kick in. Does have that intro to a
power song feel to it.

I wish it were longer.

I did something a bit like this, but more chaotic and less gentle. You've
inspired me to post it. Mine's a bit longer though, and no where near as
gentle or pretty. The process was somewhat similar though. It's fun what
you can do just by playing around.

Am going to have to check that site out!

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Nice &mdash 07/18/06 - 02:27:50 PM
Hi CJ, thanks for posting your experiment too, along with info on how you made
it. So, yours is too long, and mine is too short? :-) We'll have to meet in the
middle for duck sandwiches. I have bookmarked the site you found too, that is
an intriguing playtoy/idea for music as well! Now its time for me to invent my
iSing(tm) auto-lyrics generator, bwahaha...
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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Assymetrically beautiful! &mdash 07/17/06 - 07:08:50 AM
Hmmm - very thought provoking Eduard. Musically interesting as well
as being something (to me at least) totally new in concept. This is, I
guess, what I imagined "computer music" to be when I was (a little)
younger. The musician in me was quite content to sit back and listen,
but my scientist side is off to the Wolframtones site!
Very interesting.
Neil

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Assymetrically beautiful! &mdash 07/17/06 - 07:25:29 AM
Have just been playing at Wolframtones - hope to amalgamate into a song
some day!
Thanks! Neil

---
<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22690"> Coastal Daze </a> & <a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22219"> Angel Eyes</a>

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Cool Aleatory &mdash 07/17/06 - 03:04:05 PM
Nicely orchestrated...makes it feel much more emotional instead of dry and machine made. There used to be a couple of pieces of software for the Mac...M and Jam Factory, and another called Ovaltune, which used a variety of algorithmic methods for creating music. "M" is still sold by Cycling 74 and you can get the demo there if you want to explore this kind of stuff more. (http://www.cycling74.com/products/m).

Cool stuff Drak!

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Cool Aleatory &mdash 07/19/06 - 01:20:19 PM
Ooh, more playtoys to check out, and ideas to get inspired by, thank you! I
remember hearing about M and Jam Factory from years ago, I even downloaded
a demo of M long ago, but wasn't as into music as I am now, so I must have
quickly moved on to something else and forgotten about it. I'm glad you found
this piece interesting... now, what can I come up with next? :-)
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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Well done... &mdash 07/17/06 - 05:16:13 PM
...for developing such a serene piece of fractal music, isn't it odd that
fractals can be used to great visual effect yet, from what you say, they
don't work so well with music? Quite minimalist, a bit gamelan and rather
beautiful too.

KK

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Well done... &mdash 07/19/06 - 01:28:00 PM
Thank you for dropping in and being digitally calmed. I personally believe that,
just as fractal equations can be mapped to 2-D space to make gorgeous images,
fractals can be mapped to music staves to make unique and enjoyable music...
its just that nobody's found that holy grail of the right mapping yet. Like I said,
I have some ideas. Maybe, as Laplace figured out how to map unsolveable math
problems into a space where they were solveable, possibly I can invent a Schwan
Transform to map mathematical patterns into beautiful music... or perhaps that
is just part of this delusional nightmare of mine :-)
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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Well done... &mdash 07/19/06 - 02:22:24 PM
I'm not sure if I should wish you luck... I've been turning my thoughts to doing
some pretty chilled tracks and there's a danger such tracks would be rendered
obsolete by a machine! ;)

KK

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Dreamy! &mdash 07/17/06 - 07:50:35 PM
I know some have said that it reminded them of Narnia, but I'll say it
too. It reminded me of Narnia. ;) Your description set the scene and the
music took me there. It's amazing what computers can do with a little
intervention from their human companions. Very well done! I love the
moodiness and the 'soundtrack' quality of this piece. It moves along
very well and the voices you've chosen are spot-on! This is something I
would find very hard to do. You manage to create tracks with a
beautiful orchestral sound, without it sounding fake or strained. It
flows in a very natural way. A human way, which might sound kind of
weird, seeing as it's not human at all. But, you have added your human
touch to it, and that's what has made it so warm and inviding. Oh, wait
a minute....... did I say human??? Maybe the warming effect was from
your fire-breathing. : P Sorry........ I had to. Hahaha!!! Anyway, I
enjoyed it very much. Thanks for sharing this with us, Drak! Peace!




-Boris Luxx

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Fluffy, not stuffy! &mdash 07/19/06 - 01:35:27 PM
Hey there Boris, thanks for drifting into the dreamscape! There is a cold warmth
to this. I took a lot of care choosing the instruments and then altering their
voices to get this effect. I thought that since I didn't spend much time writing it,
I could instead tinker with the sounds afterward, so this was fun in a whole
different way. And I didn't think of Narnia until AFTER it was pretty much done,
and I had written the descriptive paragraph, it seemed to draw me to that place,
which is probably OK, Aslan as I don't get stuck there. :-)
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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facinating... &mdash 07/18/06 - 07:29:03 AM
...I'm simply amazed at the very emotional nature derived from this track. Somber and deep. ...
To think it was created by software is a little spooky. I'm sure your directing makes it of a certain caliber....great job!

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facinating... &mdash 07/19/06 - 02:03:40 PM
I'm not sure why it is emotional either, but there is something there. Thank you
for mentioning it, so I know it is not just me seeing it... or maybe I put it there?
Your comment means a great deal to me, coming from a guy who really knows
how to pull on the heartstrings with your music!
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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beautiful dream &mdash 07/18/06 - 07:47:04 AM
Sounds almost like laying outside listening to windchimes. Great mix, very relaxiing and so beautiful. Could imagine sparling icecycles dangling on the trees and some small snow flakes coming down while floating on that lovely river, cool and crisp but not cold. The only terrifying thing here would be to wake from this beautiful dream.

Thanks for sharing! :)

p.s. I'm going to save in favs and download too.

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beautiful dream &mdash 07/19/06 - 05:19:12 PM
I am happy to know that you hear just the beauty of icicles and windchimes, and
find it relaxing. The world seems to need a little more chill-out time lately.
Keep on dancing and smiling!
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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computer generated music &mdash 07/18/06 - 11:51:45 AM
I played around with WolframTones a while back after having read his book "A New Kind of Science," but, unlike you, I produced nothing with it I could call interesting.

Maybe if I could understand the mathematics behind sound generation, it would have more appeal?

I found his work on cellular automata fascinating from a visual perspective, and used it to spin off some fun visual patterns, but nothing musical.

I suspect what is of interest here is your human input - those little touches of arrangement and coloration that tweak the piece.

It is pleasant to listen to - and there's always a place for that.



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computer generated music &mdash 07/21/06 - 10:56:27 AM
That's right, I had forgotten he had a book out, I need to put that on my Amazon
to-do list! After spending much of my childhood designing and wiring up
electronic oscillators, and watching waveforms dance in my dad's oscilloscope, I
don't think that understanding the math behind sound generation helps much in
adding the elusive aesthetic quality to sequences of musical notes. But this
experiment of letting computer-generated patterns lay down the notes for me,
and let me concentrate just on tailoring the voices/waveforms... that was
interesting. I'm happy you found it listenable.
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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A linear cathedral &mdash 07/18/06 - 12:50:52 PM
This is really nice, Drak - of course, all of the fractal stuff just goes over my head, but I like the textures you've rendered here and the halting quality of the progressions does indeed remind me of walking through a forest as sunlight shafts pierce the mist. It's quite pretty, with just enough dissonance to make it real amidst the dream. We're likin'!

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A linear cathedral &mdash 07/21/06 - 10:50:25 AM
Hey Bing, sparkly shafts of light over there too? Glad to bedazzle!
ttfn,
Drakonis

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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Oh the irony &mdash 07/18/06 - 04:11:08 PM
You HAD to send this to me right when I was struggling with trying to remember high school math (for purposes of teaching SAT classes, not for fun), right? As a result I'm sorry to say I haven't gone to the site, but I did enjoy the piece very much. I do love that it's mathematically generated and yet doesn't give off that computer-y vibe. I think it could work as a soundbed for a solo melody, or even as a cool trance piece with some beats behind it. Congrats on the successful experiment!

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Oh the irony &mdash 07/21/06 - 04:16:51 PM
Ha! Didn't mean to force you onto the Math-transit bus... but I'm happy to hear
it was a pleasant ride anyway, and I appreciate that you SAT through it without
getting too fidgety. I only PENCILLED in a few notes of clarinet, but I agree, this
could probably support a full-on melody over it... although I like its sparseness
too.
ttfn,
Drakonis, off to the next little tune

---
deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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Let me dream away... &mdash 07/19/06 - 01:43:32 PM
Wonderfull, Beautyfull,and ...(here i am limitted cause english is not my
language)
I will tell you what i really think when i improved my english.
This song sounds so breakable like glass.Somthing special Energy shining
trough...

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Let me dream away... &mdash 07/21/06 - 04:23:36 PM
Danke! I understood your words and descriptions very clearly. Your English
communicated to me very well. My German (from High School) is almost all
forgotten now, and I am sad about that. Thank you for listening to my music, I
am enjoying your music as well!
ttfn,
Drakonis

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deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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Marvellous track. &mdash 07/19/06 - 05:05:48 PM
The idea is so simple, yet so great.

Hats off to you, a true genius you are.

EMP


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Marvellous track. &mdash 07/21/06 - 09:11:07 PM
A genius for being lazy, maybe. It is a pretty simple idea, and a pretty simple
piece of music, but it did turn out pretty. I'm happy! Thank you for stopping in
for a bit of crystal chill!
ttfn,
Drakonis

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deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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fractals really? &mdash 07/20/06 - 01:18:32 PM
this is beautiful. lovely to come down off of my angry song with this
soothing beauty.

amazing what math can do. i've never heard fractals before. just seen
them. nice artwork, as well.

love the clarinet and the way it floats over everything. perfect choice.

cheers!

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fractals really? &mdash 07/21/06 - 09:14:46 PM
Glad to offer an alternative to Detroit for you... escape for awhile, into another
place and time...

I'm a sucker for clarinet, I had to add it in, even if it only played a few slow
notes... after all, that's about all I could do in high school band with my clarinet.

ttfn,
Drakonis

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deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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Stuff like this... &mdash 07/21/06 - 10:01:18 AM
... often brings about the question... who is the actual composer? Is it
you, who fiddled with some values and then arranged the outcome... or
have you only given the computer the instrumentation and style and
the computer has composed it... or has the computer merely carried
out a set of functions that the original programmer created... or is that
only the theory and musical history behind it and its you that has heard
the themes and ideas and made use of them to create a piece of music.

Such debates are fun and interesting... but overall somewhat
irrelevant... its quite a lovely piece of music and thats what matters.

Nicely done, composer... arranger.... innocent bystander...

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Stuff like this... &mdash 07/21/06 - 10:21:56 PM
they are questions to ponder... but the same can be asked of general musical
composition, where I use a notation system and instruments and chord
progression ideas, all borrowed from a bunch of old dead guys... hopefully they
don't mind.
ttfn,
Drakonis

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deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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This is very impressive &mdash 07/21/06 - 03:16:52 PM
Having listened to what you downloaded after the knob-twiddling, and
then having listened to what you did with the file to turn it into this lovely
piece of music... well, the contrast is somewhat less than subtle. Your
finished piece reveals your excellent ears, your sense of the aesthetic, and
your innate musicianship.

You have fashioned what was no more than an interesting sounding piece
into something beautiful and evocative by using the tools available and
your own talent. You have much to be proud of here, Eduard.
Congratulations.

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This is very impressive &mdash 07/21/06 - 10:37:25 PM
Patrick, I'm excited that you took the time to compare the original against what I
came up with... and also glad that you enjoyed the result! I did do a fair amount
of aesthetic building of new GB synths from the stock ones provided. Some of
the first attempts were hideous. I made the mistake of playing a little bit of an
early version (which had an occasional ear-piercing knitting-needle-in-the-
brain synth) for my wife, who politely asked me to plug in my headphones and
NEVER play that again. I fixed that part. :-) But now I need a new beta tester.
ttfn,
Drakonis

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deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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Thanks for the explanation! &mdash 07/21/06 - 07:29:54 PM
I've heard OF fractal algorhythms before, and even know a person who
seems to be into the idea of it, but never heard a composition done with it
before. This is very nice, but to make it work, you still had to add 'the
human touch'. I think that's interesting in itself.


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Thanks for the explanation! &mdash 07/21/06 - 10:42:39 PM
I think the human touch will always be needed. Unless of course, the computers
just want to listen to their own music. But I'm sort of partial to the human
touch, so I'll keep applying it. It does add that little something. Thank you for
checking out this experiment!
ttfn,
Drakonis

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deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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hello . . . &mdash 07/21/06 - 09:36:01 PM
i like this -- it reminds me of something i saw on DW TV> The show was
on computer music and MIDI of all things. It's easy to follow. I like the
bell/chime/libido (lol) thing as well :)

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hello . . . &mdash 07/22/06 - 07:21:05 AM
I grew up on Walter Carlos and the beginnings of computers in music, so I keep
having this fascintation with synthesizer tinkering. It sounds like you have a
similar
fascination, your music also has unique sounds and qualities that make it your
own, and compelling. Thanks for commenting!
ttfn,
Drakonis

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deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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Serene... &mdash 07/21/06 - 09:43:24 PM
This has a very pleasing serenity... the kalimba/xylophone or libidophone
(interesting name, isn't it?) sounds very soothing.... Your musical pieces
have that general theme of peace and tranquility. i can listen to this on a
long trip and lull me to sleep...

Thanks for such a beautiful piece!

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Serene... &mdash 07/22/06 - 07:27:07 AM
Hi Leon, my pieces are generally tranquil? I'd not thought about that before, but
you may be right... hmm, now you have me all introspective. And I knew I
shouldn't have mentioned my secret weapon in chat. As I was working on this
piece, I named the chimes that I was building in Garageband the "Libidophone",
because they had an alluring mysterious quality that I really liked. I'll have to
use them more often now :-)
ttfn,
Drakonis

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deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/20413">Rainy March</a>

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Serene...or dynamic &mdash 07/23/06 - 03:41:56 PM
I correct myself... I mean the last TWO songs from you that I've commented on
have that serene quality, but I would say in general your themes range from
energetic and dynamic to calm and gentle. You are quite versatile I should say.

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You know ..... &mdash 07/21/06 - 11:18:53 PM
I could go quite out on a limb here ... and say ... I could here this one with vocals added by one of the ladies of Macjams with a higher pitch and range .... who could give it an Enya-esque sound ... with the layerings of vocals ...first ones to come to my mind are CJHoose .... Daphna .... or Miystified .... I suppose the backdrop could lend itself to quite a healthy celtic tune of done just "ever so" .... I'm still in awe of the fact that music can be made without ever playing an instrument .. you are truly the "gentleman" in that arena ! This is fabulous .. perhaps it can be "emberfied" I know I am gonna download it and play around ... whether or not anything ever comes of it is anyone's guess !

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You know ..... &mdash 07/22/06 - 06:18:40 PM
An ethereal Femme-Vox floating in and out on this would indeed be chillingly
delicious, maybe somebody will pop in out of the Myst and volunteer? I also
could see a bit of Alannah-whispered poetry or lightly sung wisps turning this
into something that would melt the icicles off the barn. Go for it! Like I said, I'm
seriously working on a video to go along with this. Think "Myst" like scenery on
shrooms. One side makes you grow taller... :-)
ttfn,
Drakonis

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deja vu, it's the next best thing to being there<br>
### Today's song:<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/22647">Fractal Serenity</a>

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I'm feeling very self-similar today &mdash 07/22/06 - 11:37:57 PM
I've heard algorithmic music before, but not sounding as simple and
convincing as this. This is quite pretty.

So now how do I score this. Song wri