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Religion that leads to extremism that leads to war. The continuous story of mankind. I had this theme in my head since a long time already. Glad that I finally put it in a song.
As always: thanks for listening.
Lyrics:
The sun is burning hot again
Upon your sacred land
You’re dreaming about a better life
The weapon’s in your hand
Forget about the history
There’s nothing we can do
Forget about religion, boy
The god’s inside of you
These young men in the battlefield
Have died on worthless ground
Their mothers cry upon their graves
And god is not around
Now look into the sky, my friend
There’s no one here above
Our people is not the chosen one
We should believe in love
The young men in the battlefield
Have died on worthless ground
Their mothers cry upon their graves
And god is not around
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Great Song &mdash 08/23/06 - 12:59:55 PM
Lyrics are simple, message is simpler still. Percussion adds a forboding
dynamic that is very effective, and initally suggests anger, but this feeling
disipates and one is left with a bereft feeling I can fully connect with. Your
voice reminds me a bit of David Sylvian in his Japan period. Which is a
good thing in my books. Once again terrific song. [ Reply to This ]
Great Song &mdash 08/24/06 - 07:18:06 AM
These are nice compliments, Willy. Indeed, I tried to build up the tension, the anger with the percussion, and take it down again with the last verse, which is in fact the synopsis of the song.
David Sylvian? Never heard of him... (naaah, of course I do, this comment/compliment seems to come back with every single song I make).
Thanks again for stopping by and taking your time to listen and comment, Willy! Much appreciated.
BTW: your last song is brilliant...
Walter
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Logic takes you from a to b. Imagination takes you everywhere. [ Reply to This ]
grew on me .. &mdash 08/23/06 - 01:19:51 PM
...war ("huh! what is it good for ..") songs seem to be flavour of the
month right now ;o)... I particularly liked these lyrics.
Touch of 'Eastern promise' worked well- after the big drums come in
the vocals (especially the delivery) got much better (wasn't keen on the
delivery prior to the big drums starting).
Nice little guitar solo from synth sounds.
Final verse - works very well captures the
poignancy of the lyrics in the delivery.
Some text change suggestions: "There%u2019s no one there above" or
"There%u2019s no one up above" and "Our people are not the chosen one"
"Forget about religion,
As/'Cos God%u2019s inside us all"
Good production.
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grew on me .. &mdash 08/24/06 - 07:26:57 AM
You're right for sure about this warsong trend on MJ the last couple of weeks/months! I guess it's no secret where the inspiration comes from... unfortunatly.
Thanks for the text suggestions. I always take that as a big compliment, considering that at least the lyrics are worth listening to :-)
Walter
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Logic takes you from a to b. Imagination takes you everywhere. [ Reply to This ]
powerful &mdash 08/23/06 - 01:50:25 PM
powerful graphic to go with this song....great message....great
performance....like the way it builds and sustains itself....you always do
good work....there is a neverending sadness to this piece, yet reflects a
truth that the whole world must endure.... this is one of those tunes that
is needed right now.....like the tone to the lead and the way the guitar
almost sounds as if it is weeping....very very cool track....
peace....Ian Baird [ Reply to This ]
powerful &mdash 08/24/06 - 07:37:51 AM
Thanks so much Ian for these great comments!
I love your words about the 'weeping' guitar solo, because this was exactly what it stands for: the despair and powerlessness of those thousands of mothers crying for the loss of their sons. Thanks again!
And hey, I dig your last song enourmously: pathos & passion, man...
Walter
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Logic takes you from a to b. Imagination takes you everywhere. [ Reply to This ]
The landscape of death and destruction &mdash 08/23/06 - 03:24:10 PM
The landscape of death and destruction &mdash 08/23/06 - 03:36:47 PM
The landscape of death and destruction &mdash 08/24/06 - 07:39:58 AM
Thanks a million, Richard. And I keep your (MJ chat-) proposal for a baritone duet in the back of my head...
Walter
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Logic takes you from a to b. Imagination takes you everywhere. [ Reply to This ]
Powerful and haunting &mdash 08/23/06 - 04:46:19 PM
Very powerful and moving song. The line, "god is not around," is
haunting, and to me, the essence of the song. I had to sit in silence for
a few minutes afterwards to think about it all. Really good work.
However, I didn't get the line, "the god's inside of you." The concept of
God being within us is fine, it's just in the context of this song I wasn't
sure it made sense; if God is inside of you (us), then he IS around, and
if God isn't around, he's not inside of you. Do you know what I mean?
The synth electric guitar solo is good, but I think it could use some
tweaking to make it even more realistic. Basically, you could be
throwing in more pitch bends, some sound decay, and some silences
between phrases, and the solo might sound even better.
Really powerful message here.
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Powerful and haunting &mdash 08/24/06 - 07:55:21 AM
Thanks again, Clark, for your time to comment on my song.
Very interesting question by the way. With the expression 'The god is inside of you', I tried to say that there is no god, and that you don't have to rely on him. It's my opinion that religion and the image of any god is created by humans. So everything a god stands for is inside of yourself. Also therefore 'We should believe in love', rather than believing in religion. But hey, that's my personal view on it.
Thanks also for the suggestions on the guitar. I completely agree.
Walter
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Logic takes you from a to b. Imagination takes you everywhere. [ Reply to This ]
innovative &mdash 08/23/06 - 04:53:34 PM
Another very good song Walter - love the way you throw everything
slightly off balance (in a good way) with your instrumentation/melody/
harmony. This is a strong message in an innovative style - Will's use of
"foreboding" is exactly on the money, but for me it comes from the
slight chordal shifts you use. Love the voice!!
"We should believe in love" just about sums it up!
Neil [ Reply to This ]
innovative &mdash 08/24/06 - 08:59:13 AM
Well, we SHOULD believe in love, shouldn't we :-) Thanks so much again, Neil. Your thoughts are always welcomed with pleasure.
Walter
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Logic takes you from a to b. Imagination takes you everywhere. [ Reply to This ]
A great acoustic impact.... &mdash 08/24/06 - 08:18:48 AM
A great acoustic impact....
To write asong to this issue is not easy.You did such great lyrics.Only a few words but so rich in content.
The music absorbs the words.Your voice is tangent as always.Again an impressive work from you. You did great, Walter! [ Reply to This ]
A great acoustic impact.... &mdash 08/24/06 - 09:08:33 AM
Thank again for your lovely words, Tanja. So much appreciated. Indeed, not an obvious theme, and that's why I wanted to keep the lyrics simple and symbolic. I hope they reflect somehow a 'passe-partout' rage against any war, at any place, at any time.
Walter
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Logic takes you from a to b. Imagination takes you everywhere. [ Reply to This ]
Top notch! &mdash 08/24/06 - 10:31:48 AM
This is excellent stuff Walter. Of course, it's only partly true.
In the twentieth century more people were killed in the name of
secularism than in all previous religious wars on record. So the
problem isn't so much religion, or even secularism, but rather what
humans choose to DO with them. There is something twisted in human
nature that enables us to falsify everything good and noble thing.
As I tried to explain in SWEET PEACE, ultimately it's "our darkened
hearts are the cause of this plight, that keeps peace---sweet peace---
so far away."
I don't disagree with the fine message in your song. I'm just attempting
to deepen the dialogue. I'm glad to find you on the side of love, peace
and rationality my friend.
Be well! [ Reply to This ]
powerful! &mdash 08/24/06 - 07:42:53 PM
This reminds me of my song "Tears and Thunder in The Battlefield" but
your arrangement on this one is more understated which gives it a very
haunting feel. The percussions/drums certainly evoke a feeling of doom
and sadness. This is powerful in its message and very well-performed in
all aspects. [ Reply to This ]
powerful! &mdash 08/24/06 - 07:42:57 PM
This reminds me of my song "Tears and Thunder in The Battlefield" but
your arrangement on this one is more understated which gives it a very
haunting feel. The percussions/drums certainly evoke a feeling of doom
and sadness. This is powerful in its message and very well-performed in
all aspects. [ Reply to This ]
Deep and sensible &mdash 08/25/06 - 10:14:52 AM
Very interesting composition. Deep voice and meloda. It is a beautiful
harmonic result. It has force. Very good the use of the drums with which
you reach a powerful and calm rate at the same time. [ Reply to This ]
You cannot beat the truth... &mdash 08/26/06 - 09:33:21 PM
...and to be able to put a tune and words to it, means to me that there are
folk out there who would rather express themselves through music,
rather than violence. Thank you.
That's one hell of a song you've put together, big guy. It's the correct
length as a musical piece without labouring the sentiment. The words
speak volumes.
Peace, love & liberty. Macjams?
Jim. [ Reply to This ]
Bullet to the Bone &mdash 08/27/06 - 06:13:11 PM
You're not pulling any punches here my friend, and I'm so in tune with
what you're saying it's uncanny. Visceral stuff. Haunting lyrics and
delivery. Love the big drums and the plaintive guitar riff. If I may share
this with you here: in my house my wife has a whiteboard upon which is
written a 'Thought for the Week'. My wife is quite religous but this week
she allowed me to post this: "And on the 7th day the Lord rested. At the
site of this the Devil arose, took a look around and said "My, this is just
wonderful but it's missing something. Ahh, I've got just the thing:
religion." Great tune Walter. [ Reply to This ]
thoughts from the bull... &mdash 08/29/06 - 07:24:50 AM
you know i adore your music, Moorlandt, and this one only adds to my
appreciation, respect, and admiration of the sounds you create.
i don't normally compare, but this one reminds me of a tidy cross
between Dead Can Dance and Bauhaus. but while neither of those
bands ever said anything in their music of real social relevance (not
that i'm aware, anyway), this piece is straight to the nose.
outside of the bold and direct lyrical content, it should be
acknowledged at just how well versed and arranged this piece is
musically. you're it, my friend, and in my house, you'll never be able to
do any wrong.
more excellent work. thank you and always glad to hear your voice! [ Reply to This ]
Well done &mdash 08/29/06 - 01:41:10 PM
Love how the music's spiriuality complements the lyrical message. Great tonal texture and the guitar sound haunting for that weeping effect you were shooting for.
My only recomendation to enhance the weeping effect would be to remove that little staccato effect that starts in the ninth measure of the solo. It's the only spot in the song that interupts the ethereal flow you have going there. [ Reply to This ]
Good &mdash 08/30/06 - 01:29:31 PM
message, mix, writing, performances... all around and interesting and powerful song. Nice one, moorlandt! [ Reply to This ]
Death for profit. &mdash 08/31/06 - 03:26:50 PM
Don't get me started on the war thing, I may be American but I'm
ashamed of my corporate government. Anyway, about your song. I think
it's ballsy and brilliant; I was thinking about writing some stuff in this
genre. I love closing my eyes and listening to this on my headphones.
Great stuff! [ Reply to This ]
Well done... &mdash 09/17/06 - 02:10:58 PM
I love the whole feel of this piece - your voice is strong and committed
and the arrangement is right-on. Glad I found your work.
PS - your daughter's song is great too! I'm also a proud parent. My
daughter's band has a tune on my site (Frankenstein Girl), and a collab
with me (You are the Illusions). [ Reply to This ]
moving &mdash 09/20/06 - 01:58:14 PM
This song is very powerful and intense...as it should be. I loved it when
the drums came into the song followed by the guitar solo. It set the
mood perfectly. I like the strength and clarity of your voice. Have you
ever thought of maybe layering or harmonizing your voice at certain parts
to make various parts of the song stronger?
Excellent and well thought out lyrics.
Bravo! [ Reply to This ]
moving &mdash 09/20/06 - 01:58:25 PM
This song is very powerful and intense...as it should be. I loved it when
the drums came into the song followed by the guitar solo. It set the
mood perfectly. I like the strength and clarity of your voice. Have you
ever thought of maybe layering or harmonizing your voice at certain parts
to make various parts of the song stronger?
Excellent and well thought out lyrics.
Bravo! [ Reply to This ]
love it &mdash 09/24/06 - 02:07:10 PM
Great tune! &mdash 09/24/06 - 02:08:57 PM
Hey Moorlandt!
I really like this song. It has a very special feel to it. I really dig the drums, they are very cool, how did you play them? Programming or?
Well, it has been very nice to work with you on Valkyri, you did a fantastic job!!! Honest!
Keep up the good work, and dont hesitate to invite me to another project!!! I most certainly could use your help another time!
/Jonas:-) [ Reply to This ]
thanks &mdash 09/24/06 - 02:29:36 PM
Thanks Jonas for these fine comments. The drums were played on the keyboard.
Walter
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Logic takes you from a to b. Imagination takes you everywhere. [ Reply to This ]
,-) &mdash 10/09/06 - 04:24:59 PM
Intense &mdash 10/11/06 - 09:59:18 PM
The lyrics are very moving in themselves, but paired with the music they really make an impact. I love how there is not a TON of things going on so yo can pick out each individual thing. When the drums come in with the harmonies it really becomes quite epic. Almost a historical chant.
Beautiful. [ Reply to This ]
Sweet and dark &mdash 11/10/06 - 02:52:57 AM
This track has a wonderful sense of depth and foreboding... a great build-up, released by the introducton of the toms. Production is crisp, and the instrumentation is subtle and uncluttered. The solo adds a wonderful sense of drama. Kinda 80's fel to the track and vocals (which is now very contemporary, of course) - you have a wonderful deep voice.
Great track.
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Thanks, Steve &mdash 11/10/06 - 04:50:57 AM
Hey, thank you Steve! It's always a nice surprise when someone comments on an 'older' song. Meanwhile I discovered that this song appears in the selection of 800 anti-war songs on Neil Young's site (http://neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/lwwsongspage.html), together with lots of others MJ-ers songs. Maybe it should be a good idea to list them all in the forum one day...
Thanks again for your time and effort to comment.
-Walter
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Logic takes you from a to b. Imagination takes you everywhere. [ Reply to This ]
I agree with sentiment &mdash 11/12/06 - 09:03:57 AM
But if children were taught to think rationally, those that are in power would no longer be in power; so it's better to keep them mesmerized with magical thinking and motivated to do your bidding with unseen promises.
Teach them that there are things that are perplexing because "it's a mystery" rather than "hey, you're right, that fairy tale doesn't make logical or moral sense".
Excellent music too. [ Reply to This ]
Sobering and Sad &mdash 11/21/06 - 09:17:48 PM
I like the subtle middle eastern flavor you sprinkle through the song through the flute and guitar accompaniment. The build-up of the drums syncopates my mental images of the ruin of war. I also tried to write something with a reference to the middle east (Via Maris), though not as dark. If you get a chance to give it a listen and find anything in there you can use ina collab, feel free! The stark lyrics are very effective, too. [ Reply to This ]
Strange &mdash 01/06/07 - 12:07:57 PM
I can't play this song in Safari, Firefox, not even in iTunes and Quicktime after downloading ??? [ Reply to This ]
right &mdash 01/07/07 - 06:07:40 AM
you're right, and thanks for letting me know. I sent a mail to the admins...
- Walter
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Logic takes you from a to b. Imagination takes you everywhere. [ Reply to This ]
broken for me too &mdash 01/07/07 - 03:49:51 PM
I look forward to hearing this when the admins fix it.
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dynamic that is very effective, and initally suggests anger, but this feeling
disipates and one is left with a bereft feeling I can fully connect with. Your
voice reminds me a bit of David Sylvian in his Japan period. Which is a
good thing in my books. Once again terrific song.
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