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not what mamma said by tmcfate [Email]
Genre: Folk-Rock

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Uploaded: Oct 10, 2006 - 05:07:43 AM
Last Updated: Oct 10, 2006 - 05:07:43 AM



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when my mother found out she had cancer i went home for a week visit. i ended up stay three weeks till she died. i wasnt real close to her for the past 20 years. i am not very close to any of my family that i grew up with. while i was ther i kept journals of the experience and ended up writing a short story. every one loved it in the end and it helped them see my value i little clearer. this song came from that

Lyrics:
whistling through my new teeth
feeling like a real thief
wondering where the bus stops
and when should i get off
know that you love me in your heart
i was wondering
if my mother would wake up and think
maybe ill get better
maybe this is a dream
maybe i dont have to go
thats not what mamma said
and i tried real hard until she was dead

those first few days at home were the best
is was cooking
we were talking
she would rest
and when she felt tired
she would sleep on a cot
those few weeks i cared and i hoped a lot

what did my mother mean to me
well i tried real hard to see

the morning came and they took her body away
i would drive right past that funeral home
imagined where she laid
probably down in the basement
probably refrigerated
still in town and underground
but now we are separated

halfway house from here to home i dead a little on my own

you got your wish mom you made it a peaceful death
im sorry i wasn't here, im so sorry
i know we made piece i wish i could have done more
but this is what i came here for, to help you see this through
so i guess i got my wish too
im still here and you are gone
it is a beautiful day outside mom the birds are singing
i love you mom
i always have




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absolute transparency &mdash 10/10/06 - 07:56:52 AM
Another fine example of see-though lyrics, Tim. The first few lines of
this piece are extraordinary. It's funny, sometimes when I listen to your
songs I feel like I am eavesdropping where I shouldn't. They are so
intensely personal and honest. Thanks for lifting up the window-shade
again. Excellent work. Very sorry about your mother.

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typo &mdash 10/10/06 - 08:07:54 AM
I meant "see-through" (above), not "see-though."

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What it means &mdash 10/10/06 - 08:05:02 AM
Sometimes what it means just can't be put into words. Most times,
actually, if it is deeply felt. An oh so pleasant sound you achieve; those
opening bars are really great. Great layering and choice of sounds.
And I dig your hi and low voices. There are at least 3 spots in which
your drum loops/track get messed up with the timing: first bass drum
hit just before "I was wondering"; snare hits just before "those first few
days"; just after "well I tried real hard to see"; and "a little on my own".
Plus some of the playing/dark mix after "peaceful death" which kind of
plays against the phrase. Consider fixing these few spots, and listening
to the whole thing to make sure its not too busy, perhaps too many
snare hits internally in the phrasing. I like the groove, tho. Love the
simple honesty. I too fought against my mother "giving up" until I
realized she simply didn't have enough energy to go on. She died in my
father's arms. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and craft.

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up close and personal &mdash 10/10/06 - 07:08:10 PM
I have to say this hit home for me because my own mother died last year
and I had so many feelings well up in me at the time and so now that it's
been a while, this sort of brings it back. It's so rooted in the everyday, not
overly sentimental, and sort of practical, well, it reminds me of the way
my mother was, for all that, practical and not overly sentimental.
Musically, I feel like I can't really critique this, just wanted to say Thanks,
it's a nice piece of artful music that really strikes a chord with me.

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brave to put... &mdash 10/10/06 - 09:26:02 PM
in song what most people can't.

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too personal &mdash 10/11/06 - 03:50:42 AM
very impressive feelin there ..specialy
on your singin .. realy nice work very good
mixing ..Well Done !!

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distantly heartfelt &mdash 10/11/06 - 07:59:29 AM
This is beautifully crafted... I have just learned that I'm about to follow
your very same path, so I have a very good understanding of the
dichotomy of the love of your mom, and the need to distance yourself
almost clinically so as not to get completely wiped out by the situation,
trying to inject a small amount of humor and love of life into the situation
as well... extremely poignant. I'm sure the story was just as well told.
Music was well matched, intimate, simple, pretty. Singing was good, you
have a nice voice! Congratulations on being a successful survivor, and a
great helpful talented son.
ttfn,
Drakonis

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Sensitive. &mdash 10/18/06 - 05:47:50 AM
Great sensitivity here and brought a tear to my eye as it took me back several years....musically very different and I for one dig the rambling semi-looseness in the delivery, like it that way.
Dennis.

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hey tim this is beautiful &mdash 10/18/06 - 10:51:41 AM
it's really raw (not production wise, but emotionally) and yet soothing. just
added it to my favorites! you really captured something incredible here.
i'm going to send the link to my dad.... my grandmother died 2 years ago
and i think he would really resonate with this song. --s

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Mother and Child Reunion &mdash 10/21/06 - 06:33:44 PM
Elegantly crafted, beautifully executed and a thoughtfully written story
of a mother and child reunion. It is amazing how death forces us to be
reflective, especially as we age : >

You have tackled one of those "passages" moments - the death of a
parent - and examined it from multiple viewpoints. Perhaps it is this
ambiguity that makes it feel so real. You have the rarely ability to be
complex in simple language. In a few words, like Japanese haiku
poetry, you speak volumes.

Take that first line, for example - "Whistling through my new teeth." It
immediate conjurs up all sorts of questions, like did you lose the ability
to whistle until some dental work restored it? Or does your whistle
sound different now that you've got new teeth? And - since people
tend to whistle when they are happy - doesn't this suggest we listening
to a happy song? Or at least one with a happy ending? How can that be
when singing about the death of your mother? But then ambiguity casts
its shadow with the next line - "feeling like a thief," which can mean a
number of things from feeling guilty over whistling a happy song
during such a sobering occasion ... to trying to steal something
personally rewarding from someone else's misfortune.

I love your conceptual twist on the classic "Mama said" convention.
How many songs have been written where the singer talks about
something mama said? From "Mama said there'd be days like this" ...
"Mama told me not to come" ... Mama said you can't hurry love" ... or "I
recalled my mama's words, don't take you guns to town." But here it's
just the opposite - where it is the son who is trying to set the agenda
for behavior - and mama doing the opposite of what's expected.

I love the maturity of this piece, with its thoughtful recognition of
human limitation that no matter how much we do - no matter how
much more we think we should have done - it's never enough. And
that a part of us dies, too, when we say goodbye to a parent (no matter
how close or how far we've held each other).

I like to think turning these situations into art (music) helps us better
understand the life process. In this instance, your honest examination
has created a song that strikes a resounding chord for others as well.




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So beautiful... &mdash 10/25/06 - 06:08:08 PM
This is very timely for me as my mom passed away the 22nd of this
month. A tender tribute this. The raw, unvarnished truth conveyed in
simple lyrics. Beautifully sung and recorded. Thank you for sharing your
pain, I really needed this.

Be well friend!

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So beautiful... &mdash 10/25/06 - 06:08:18 PM
This is very timely for me as my mom passed away the 22nd of this
month. A tender tribute this. The raw, unvarnished truth conveyed in
simple lyrics. Beautifully sung and recorded. Thank you for sharing your
pain, I really needed this.

Be well friend!

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Thanks for the incredibly story of your mom &mdash 11/14/06 - 12:56:23 AM
Great to have a mom that means so much to you!



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Hit's right home &mdash 01/01/07 - 02:26:30 PM
"I died a little on my own" Give thanks to those times together... If the memories fade away... I hear they all come back again. Thanks for this one.... I'll spend more time with mine.

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Wow &mdash 02/14/07 - 07:13:58 PM
Another truly touching song. I'm going through your list of songs starting with those I missed over a year and half ago. I have to say that you are adding a great amount of subtlety to your work and that I'm very impressed.

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wow &mdash 02/23/07 - 09:45:51 AM
Boy Tim... This is so intimant, it makes me feel as hough I've been eves-dropping... TA used the word transparent,,, I couldn't ssay it better so I'll say it again... very genuine and I'm glad that you chose not to sing the last verse... you really let us into the most sacred areas... I'm really digging the drumming choices, and the subtle build...

I've been farely active here for almost a year... how is it that I haven't come across you yet Tim... thanx for fixin' that

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Oh man &mdash 03/11/07 - 10:59:31 PM
How long did you have to wait till u could sing this. Man you got me going. Its a very emotional night for me. Move into a private note...
Tim

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Excellent &mdash 12/13/07 - 08:34:24 PM
"I died a little on my own" No more accurate way to say it. You have given us a window to view who you are; incredible poetry, very interesting person.
All the best,
Joe

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hey man &mdash 03/26/08 - 11:58:15 PM
respect

i forgot to fav

peace
t

she hears u

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