Small Setback

SmokeyVW

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album: Manic | Depressive
track 1: 3:58 True, Man
track 2: 2:11 The Last Whale
track 3: 6:32 Happenst (col w TydelWave)
track 4: 3:19 Break The Loop
track 5: 5:28 Dream of Snow
track 6: 5:56 Dig Dig, Dig
track 7: 2:34 Small Setback
track 8: 4:57 Clamshell Alliance
track 9: 2:52 despair
track 10: 4:11 Homaridae
track 11: 2:34 Waiting
track 12: 7:40 My Dancing Snowflake
track 13: 2:12 All Through The Universe
track 14: 5:06 And My Toothbrush
track 15: 5:41 Talkoot
track 16: 2:05 Peaceful Sunrise (col w RoxyLee)
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Hits: 3339
Comments: 20
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Plays: 165
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Uploaded: Oct 15, 2006 - 08:01:08 PM
Last Updated: Sep 19, 2008 - 11:42:30 AM Last Played: Nov 14, 2009 - 06:25:56 PM

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	said 1136 days ago (October 15th, 2006)
	Set the mood Good mood setting. Really good on the lower strings and the rhythm. Very enjoyable.

SmokeyVW	SmokeyVW said 1134 days ago (October 17th, 2006)
	. thanks! i had a little fun doing a pentatonic thing on strings... --- B^) Check out my latest song called One For Me

Schello	Schello said 1134 days ago (October 17th, 2006)
	,-) ehh siii! weel done, horchestra and rhythm solid, bravo Smokey Check out my latest song called Snozz'en (Cronik Mix)

SmokeyVW	SmokeyVW said 1134 days ago (October 17th, 2006)
	. thanks Schello! --- B^) Check out my latest song called One For Me

Feter	Feter said 1134 days ago (October 18th, 2006)
	Dramatic !! very good controling over the insteruments inetracts ..paint a very good picture inside out amazing horns in the back ...I like it ..!! good job Check out my latest song called A Night With Feter feat'(Roxylee sloparts crissew johnwhitehead and Yamin AL Yamani )

SmokeyVW	SmokeyVW said 1131 days ago (October 20th, 2006)
	. thanks for listening! --- B^) Check out my latest song called One For Me

Enrique Gil	Enrique Gil said 1133 days ago (October 19th, 2006)
	wonderful orchestra use I really want to learn how to use all those instruments together and make them sound professional. very good! Check out my latest song called Simple Feelings

SmokeyVW

SmokeyVW said 1131 days ago (October 20th, 2006)

experiment
all i can suggest is: get jampack 4, experiment with the loops they give you -
but use only the software instruments because they are much more
flexible............

for example, find all the Capitol A loops, and drag each one to its own track.
turn on the cycle region and let it play. now, try the solo button (the little
headphones) on each track one at a time to see how each part contributes to
the whole.........

you can also double click on a violin part to view the track in graphic mode,
open the advanced panel on the left, and switch "notes" to view "expression."
that's where a lot of the magic comes from.........

don't get scared by the dozens of dots in the expression graph, you can
create reasonably nice curves with just a handful of points. if you have an
expression controller on a midi keyboard (i don't), you can record them i
suppose. but i find the fine control using the pencil tool to be very useful for
this stuff........

try changing around the notes, change their pitch and velocity. a lot of the
instruments change dramatically with velocity. experiment! and have fun!

---
B^)

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Enrique Gil	Enrique Gil said 1130 days ago (October 22nd, 2006)
	thanks thanks for the advice Check out my latest song called Simple Feelings

SmokeyVW	SmokeyVW said 1128 days ago (October 23rd, 2006)
	advice?! gosh, don't take it as advice! just a suggestion. my only real advice is to have fun! --- B^) Check out my latest song called One For Me

Enrique Gil	Enrique Gil said 1126 days ago (October 26th, 2006)
	OK thanks for the suggestion. Are you using loops superimposed on your own melodies also? Check out my latest song called Simple Feelings

SmokeyVW

SmokeyVW said 1124 days ago (October 27th, 2006)

the cat's out of the bag
I rarely do anything the same way twice. In this case, I started with several GB JP4 loops. I changed nearly all the notes, but kept the rhythm and dynamics mostly as is. I think I chopped off some longer loops, and doubled up one or two short ones. I don't recall what order I added and modified the loops, but the final .band file contains modified versions of:

Capitol B French Horns;
Capitol C Orchestral Kit;
Classical Piano Right 100;
Desire A Violas, Cellos, Violins 2;
Escape C Cellos;
and Jazzy Rock Drums 06.

---
B^)

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timothy devine

timothy devine said 1005 days ago (February 23rd, 2007)

hey Smokey
I read the advice you gave and what a cool idea. there are so many things you can do with GB and I keep learning from people. I am working on a collab and learning from that friend and this idea sounds like it could consume a week or ten. A few months ago what you wrote would have sounded like another language but now i am getting to know my way around GB and what a cool way to come up with a bed to play over.....I'm off to jam
this is another work that i will download and will save for a special playlist
thanx
tim

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SmokeyVW	SmokeyVW said 1004 days ago (February 24th, 2007)
	. i believe in sharing check out http://www.macjams.com/song/28034 Check out my latest song called One For Me

scratch_harris	scratch_harris said 1132 days ago (October 19th, 2006)
	Set forward Yeah, this is good Bill. Builds steadily but insistently to the sweet drop off to the horns 2/3rds the way through. Excellent work. Onward and upward from here... Best Jon Check out my latest song called Fire on the twenties

SmokeyVW	SmokeyVW said 1131 days ago (October 20th, 2006)
	hi Jon thanks, glad you liked it! --- B^) Check out my latest song called One For Me

Parichayaka

Parichayaka said 1132 days ago (October 19th, 2006)

Wow!
This is really interesting, very unusual approach for that kind of instrumentation. Especially the second half sounds great with the piano melody contrasting the darker orchestral arrangement. The bass drum is a little strong/bass heavy at times. The theme would lend itself to further exploration. You have a very nice melody and structure here. The piano could be taken over by solo strings and the rhythm could kick in much later. These are obviously just ideas for you to ignore or think about, but overall I think this is a short but sweet piece with a lot of potential! I really enjoyed it.

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SmokeyVW

SmokeyVW said 1131 days ago (October 20th, 2006)

thx
glad you enjoyed it! re: unusual approach: maybe it's the pentatonic scale i was
using? thanks for noticing that bass drum: it is a bit too much, i need to adjust
that. i like your suggestion of developing the piano's melody with strings; this
thing could grow into a much larger work, with much more work. thanks for the
insightful comments.

---
B^)

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paul f. page

paul f. page said 1122 days ago (October 29th, 2006)

small setback
I read the other comments. Yeah. Bass is a bit much on my system... You have such a nice way with the various instruments you use -- the mix seems to always work just about right. But I keep wondering where the music is GOING and I am hoping you will experiment further with melody. The "loved one's pain" certainly comes through with the insistent rhythm. ... I'm happy to have had the opportunity to listen to your work. :)

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SmokeyVW	SmokeyVW said 1121 days ago (October 30th, 2006)
	bass i'm discovering the danger with some of the JamPack4 instruments: the low-end seems to be very loud, yet my speakers don't reproduce it, so i never suspect there is a problem... it's time to consider getting a sub-woofer i suppose. thanks for listening! --- B^) Check out my latest song called One For Me

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Eclectic, at best. I learned some music theory at school, and read a ton about it since. I've listened to lots of music over the years. I once played guitar in an actual garage band and actually got paid to play! Once. Although live performance is an... [see more]

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