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Here's my stab at Loop It or Lose It round #1:

http://www.macjams.com/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=6;showtopic=65856

I tried lo limit my use of the loop by only transposing it in full octaves, though I did lay on some heavy effects. The loop doesn't appear for nearly a full minute, but from then on it is constant throughout the rest of the song. There are essentially two separate mutations as well as some sampled rhythms cut from portions of the loop.

Mutation 1:
transpose -12
filter: MDA Degrade
filter: EQ
filter: Camelphat (bandpass, flanger, compressor)
filter: EQ
filter: MDA Detune (channel delay)
filter: Tape Delay

Mutation 2:
transpose: -12
filter: Camelphat (resonant lowpass w/LFO modulation)
filter: Camelphat (tube distortion, bandpass, flanger, compressor)
filter: EQ
filter: Tremelo
filter: Chorus

I set the song in E harmonic minor. To me the loop sounded like Em (EGB), Esus2 (EF#B), and Esus4 (EAB). E harmonic minor gave me those notes as well as a raised 7th (D#) that has an exotic sound.
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Magritte said 4063 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
Finally...
I was wondering when I'd get to hear yours. I think it was a little too mind-bending to listen to right before bed though! My brain feels wrung out. In a good way. It begs to be played on iTunes with a good psychedelic visualizer. The mixing and the sounds are pitch perfect. It's going to haunt me, I know it!
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chikoppi said 4062 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
[R]
Thanks Magritte! I set out to try something a little different than my usual and it required a lot of attention be paid to the timbre of the sounds. It isn't quite where I'd like for it to be, but a deadline is a deadline. I'm glad you find it a little disturbing - that means its working!

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Willywagga said 4063 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
Super
Very atmospheric and thematic. love the percussion and bass lines. Production is great. There are brilliant tension and comfort vibes present, working together at the same time. Love it.
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chikoppi said 4062 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
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Thanks WW! This was kind of my first foray into a theme-based melody. Baby steps, baby steps. I tried to create atmosphere with the tonality of the instruments alone, though in the end a healthy dose of delay has a lot to do with that as well.

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ktb said 4063 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
i wanna be
the bass player. on my headphones i'm re living a gentle giant concert although this is so much more. margritte's suggestion of the visulizer was spot on. really amazing what you've done here. there's no vestige of the original loop for me, which makes it all the more remarkable.
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chikoppi said 4062 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
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I figured there are plenty of musicians on MacJams that would find a much more musically interesting solution to working with that loop than I might (and I was right). Changing the timbre of the loop was my best bet to put my own stamp on it. Same notes, different sound - I'm glad it was enough of a departure to provide a fresh listening experience. Thanks!

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said 4063 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
Crazy
builds into the loop, heh, some manner of expectation here knowing it HAD to come.. :-) I like the effects you used to change the sound to fit your song. The piano was especially effective to carry that changeup.

Cool challenge idea, but it will take me months to get that loop sequence out of my head after today. Ughh!

Thanks for coming up with this, it has been a huge hit and a lot of fun.

. - Harold
chikoppi said 4062 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
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I felt like I was cheating a bit on my own rules by holding off on the loop for the first 20% of the song - but I started having fun designing the intro and decided that was more important!

I've been trying to listen and comment on all the entries but find I have to take breaks between each listen. That loop has become a buzzing in my ear that won't go away. I'm glad you're risking "permanent loop acoustical syndrome" along with me to enjoy this little experiment!

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announcer said 4063 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
Tapped my spine
This is really cool with some really nice bass sounds that sound great and really fit perfectly. Good use of the loop and GREAT effects. Good title. Nice percussion sounds here too. First class production and song all the way!!!
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chikoppi said 4062 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
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Thanks for mentioning the bass! I worked on that sound for quite a while. In the end it became a combination of three instruments. There is a bass instrument with the bottom frequencies cut off to provide the sound of the strings. Beneath the strings are two sub-bass synths that are tuned symmetrically away from pitch by about 15cents each. Those off-key synths vibrate against eachother to create a thick bass sound with a noticeable pulse.

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drakonis said 4063 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
nice foreshadowing...
Knowing what was coming, I liked how you began to foreshadow the coming loop with the little piano bits early on, great sound fx (is this pulled from the ribs of your earlier great "Inertia" piece or similar?)

Very twisty detailed work on each little aspect of this, I can feel the attention to detail here... quite trippy and spine-bending.
ttfn,
Drakonis
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chikoppi said 4062 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
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Thanks drak! I've always loved the textural aspects of sounds and you're right, I was chasing the some of the same things in Inertia. Some sounds just seem to suggest so many things - spaces, moods, objects, voices, movements. I often get so preoccupied with sound design that I forget pesky things like melody and chord progression!

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metronom said 4063 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
interesting!
so mysterious.....and different!I love it so much!
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chikoppi said 4062 days ago (October 28th, 2006)
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Thanks for saying so - mysterious and different was exactly what I was aiming for!

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bud said 4063 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
Fantastic opening
and you manage to keep up the invention throughout. Are you playing keys/triggers for most of it? It has a great organic feel. Cool!
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chikoppi said 4062 days ago (October 28th, 2006)
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No keys here! I used Logic's EXSP24 to set a fairly lengthy glide on that opening synth. Because it slides between overlapping notes it gives the impression of reaching and falling. A little bit of tweaking the notes leads to something that sounds like a performance. Thanks!

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warmvox said 4062 days ago (October 27th, 2006)
whirrring
and other great things... particularily love what you did with that higher whiring effect right about the middle of the song... that's the kind of stuff I like to tuck in with some warm guitar layers... what do you us for drums?
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chikoppi said 4062 days ago (October 28th, 2006)
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Drums are pretty standard sources. The kick and snare are stock Apple instruments. I added some effects to the snare to give it a dull metallic character and the kick (if I remember correctly) is processed through a fat lowpass filter and some other EQ and compressor tweaks. The cymbals are from the XL "Starclassic" instrument set off wizoosounds.com. Absolutely no processing on those at all. They sound great and come at a bargain price.

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Alannah said 4062 days ago (October 28th, 2006)
OK ... I am officially just weirded out ...
.. very trippy .... and took some serious mind bending I'm sure to do the serious loop bending .... I might have been "probed by aliens while listening" ... a small hazard of the job .... definitely an exotic mix and cornucopia of sound ! .... (since when do I EVER use the word "cornucopia" in a REAL sentence .... ????) ..... yeah the ending sealed the whole alien paranoia for me ..... HAHAHAHAHA ....
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DeputyDoofy said 4062 days ago (October 28th, 2006)
Industrial Guitar #11
Very cool effects on this loop and an excellent tune in general. Look forward to the next "challenge."
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said 4062 days ago (October 28th, 2006)
Incredible!
Wow, what a trip that was! Excellent track! The mix was fabulous.
perceptualvortex said 4062 days ago (October 28th, 2006)
Hahaha
Wow! I love the sounds you've gotten. This is not only a fascinating, successful experiment, but a highly aesthetic one. Excellent! Great art too... what on earth is that? A strange attractor? Particle trails in a bubble chamber? Alien architecture? Great job with this cool music.
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mvh9591 said 4061 days ago (October 29th, 2006)
Mr. Chikoppi----
This one rings in my ears.... Low tones______very low____ Love the transition in the middle and the stereo effect. Nice - Job - Here - Well man I'm really not sure - It was out there and well - - - nice - - and ---artistic.

(Nicely done my man)

mvh : )


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echoroom said 4061 days ago (October 29th, 2006)
Unsettling
I found this unsettling and evocative, with a great use of percussion. The piano line and bass give the track a solid grounding, allowing you to riff around them. I must admit there's too much to take in on first listen, but the changes in tone and texture are superb.

Need to download and 'pod this for the 6 a.m. drive to work.

Steve
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said 4060 days ago (October 30th, 2006)
Holy Fripptronics Batman!!!
The challenger himself steps up to bat and knocks it out of the park! Nice work C...Stunning production. It's like accidently picking up a radio transmission from another galaxy.

Be well!

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The Orbiting said 4059 days ago (October 31st, 2006)
Lordy this is Impressive!
Firstly, thank you so much for creating this challenge, making something positive out of the rolling loop debate%u2122. As, I mentioned in the LIOLI thread, we actually got the start on the fourth song for our album, because of your challenge and wrote something we never would have otherwise.

Your song is really wonderful, darkly atmospheric and I especially enjoyed your detailed descriptions of your process, which made it even more interesting to listen to the song. You did things I wouldn't have thought of, but plan to try out in the future. Thank you so much for sharing your process, Mr. C.

(L)
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Stav said 4059 days ago (October 31st, 2006)
It's weird.
I like it.
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Macaudion said 4058 days ago (October 31st, 2006)
Okay...
....Now that was pretty damn impressive! Very much so - This is my first listen to a tune of yours, (I don't know why) and I have to say, that I'm very, very pleasantly surprised (I don't know why, again...) Certainly, I can hear that you are a skilled musician - Regardless of what I don't know about you... - The level of intelligence and care that was applied to this piece is not at all unlike the level of care and intelligence that tends to show in the the choice and arrangemlent of words that I have run accross in your forum post - Now why am I not surprised, again...

Thanks for creating the challenge, Dr. C - I returned home to an inbox that seems to be the resulting products of this great idea. Very cool - Dion
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Stun Nutz said 4058 days ago (October 31st, 2006)
_1-!_1--!-!-!_!!_
Nice Spine tune here, chiko... I love this kinda stuff. Parts of it (as well as the title) reminded me of my own "spine" tune that I did with PV, Mungo, and _nderscore a little over a year ago. Check it out: http://www.macjams.com/song/13265
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MissChaos said 4057 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
musical noise or noisy music?
so I listened to this, pressing my earbuds so far into my ears out of sheer awe (resulting in more degradation of my poor ear drums!)... and I immediately sent the link to my own "Doctor Noise" husband, _nderscore with the caption, "This is really bad ass!". enough said? Okay, I'll go on then since you've totally brightened my day with your comment on "Satori". I love the piano in this and the broken record ending. Absolutely tingling usage of effects and unpredictable programming. Take a bow.
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_nderscore said 4057 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
~beautiful world of buzzy electronic goo~
there are so many things here to love.. glorious production & songwriting aside, it's the synthetic fluttering, almost backwardsy feeling that makes me feel like my mind is on overdrive. i'm visualizing generations of throbbing, pulsing synapses, firing in semi-coherent & rhythmic succession (probably not stretching reality too far). warmth, color, voids, connections, tied together by a haunting & partially transposed piano lead wonderfully sets off the versions of 'loop' & backing soundscape. beauty
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composerclark said 4055 days ago (November 3rd, 2006)
Spectacular
Fantastic. I am really enjoying this. You keep introducing sonic bon-bons to divert our ear from the loop(s). Amazing sound; big fat bass that just grabs you and won't let go. 10-10-10-10
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composerclark said 4055 days ago (November 3rd, 2006)
Well,
if I could vote I give it ten's! Didn't realize you had disabled voting.

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VicDiesel said 4025 days ago (December 4th, 2006)
Wonderful!
I must admit that time constraints have kept me from listening to (let alone participating in) the loopers-are-losers fest. (What? That's not the name? Well, then it dang well ought to be!)

No, without joking around, you've really demonstrated how you can take a loop and doing something highly creative with it, rather than set it on infinite repeat.

This is a wonderful composition, with a good mix of electronic and real (the piano, the cymbals) sounds.
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blaky smith said 4024 days ago (December 5th, 2006)
Nice job
Great work, excellent. I like this. It's a very good piece to listen to...
I agree with all. The mixing and the sounds are perfect.
Spine is the first tune from you I listen to. I'm glad to discover your music. Bravo..

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Char said 3175 days ago (April 2nd, 2009)
I just found this.
I was seeing flying saucers spinning in place at take off and winking out and coming back into their own galaxy. A wild ride, for sure. Thanks.
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Demeter7 said 2873 days ago (January 29th, 2010)
I think it sets the stage
for a monumental battle for good, in a dreadful world that is full of monsters with benevolent faces. The evil that you know is so much better than the evil that is hidden. You are a master.
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