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The final version of this song can be found on iTunes on my album, "120". Thanks for listening!
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Uploaded: Nov 01, 2006 - 03:17:41 PM
Last Updated: May 23, 2008 - 03:37:49 PM Last Played: Sep 05, 2016 - 11:58:55 AM
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said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
YAYYAYAY!!!
YOu could have posted your worst piece here and I wouldnt care:) Just so happy to hear anything from you!

As it is.. I loved it!! its more heavy and dark at the front end which forshadows the rest of the song quite nicely.

In essence though I get a modern middle/far east city a bustle with good and bad intentions/ Floating through its grey sky and neon clad ruins:)

Im very happy with it.. and loved the soft landing!

WB Miss Chaos! So lovely to hear you again:)
MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
thanks!
Love your thoughts on imagery. You make me smile.

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futzpucker said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
So great to get new music from you...
Ms. Kay Ahs, I am not a particularly visual person. Others will have many images, I would guess, though, because this piece is rich with texture, dynamics, movement, orchestration, and emotion. I just put my headphones on, close my eyes, and drink of your formidable skills.

I love this piece. It's beautiful, creative, and evocative. You are becoming more and more skilled with the use of the palette of sounds available to you. This is wonderful. Please continue to compose and bring your excellent music to us. Your artistry cannot help but grow.

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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
Futz...
Thank you -- you continue to encourage me.

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drakonis said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
Diamond Age... the Movie
For some reason, what came to mind was a grand big-screen vision of the near-futuristic gritty vision from Niel Stephenson's book "Diamond Age", specifically, the downtown Asian seaport megatropolis. Hard to describe in a sentence for those who've not read the great book, but the shakuhachi and some of the scales sound very Japanese/Chinese, and other synthy sounds (like the awesome down-bent super-bass percussion thingie) sounds very futuristic-modern city-like (like the old Fritz Lang "Metropolis" movie, automated machinery crushing the humanity out of the populous.) Great broad scope and wonderful mixing keeping everything "big" yet clean. However, I didn't like the super-wide separation at the very beginning (headphones), I'd have started with things closer together, then panned apart as it progressed. Also, a couple of the early choir notes stopped a little abruptly and sounded "sampled" instead of real. But other than those minor nits, this was epic, and makes me want to go see your movie. Very nice choices of sounds, great unstoppable momentum you build here... and nice way to bring it to an end. Welcome back, Ms_Chaos!
ttfn,
Drakonis
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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
Thanks, Drak
Now that you and PV have mentioned the book, I'll have to go find it!

When I separated that intro "bell" track to the far left channel, I KNEW you would say you didn't like it. :-) But it has just enough "WTF" power to highlight the choral tracks that come in just moment later. More experimentation on my part -- whether it's successful is to be determined, I guess. You've got a keen ear for this stuff and I'm always grateful for your critique. Thanks!

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Alannah said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
Parts of this ....
... screamed "Kitaro" to me (my favourite New Age Artist) ... so glad to see you back making music .... this one was a HUGE way to splash back into Macjams ! It's great !
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Henke said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
Yeah
That's what it sounds like, Kitaro. So, in search of Satori, maybe you found Kitaro...?! Which is a good thing. I've only heard Silk Road (one of several?) but that was quite nice. And this certainly come up to the same standard, maybe even better because of the nerve and action in it. Great production for sure, and thanks for sharing. Fav'd and dl'd of course...

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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
thanks, alannah!
the Kitaro comparison isn't the first time I've heard that. I'm not sure I know any of their stuff, but I'll have to now! Thanks for stopping by!

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chikoppi said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
I can see forever
NIce gentle opening. Cello and flute sound terrific. The bass dive under the cymbal crash is particularly effective. The percussion is very finely mixed and spaced - dense, but not busy and with plenty of variety and expression.

This is very cinematic, mysterious, and grand. The chords change by degrees and create an almost tidal effect, which is very in keeping with the soft, ambient tone of the piece. I tend to not like most vocal synths, but I like the character you've given them here - more flute or bassoon-like. The voicing of the instruments delivers some very pleasing depth and harmony. The single note with the upwards glide ("a-ah") makes for an evocative recurring motiff.

Very lovely with enough detail to warrant many successive listens. Excellent blend of instruments in a mix that is positively delicious!
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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
gracias, chikoppi
You know, since I obseses over the mix sometimes, I love reading comments that are specific to the instrumentation and the mix. I'm such an amateur that most of it is just trial-and-error or whatever the heck sounds "best". Thank you very much for the encouragement.

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Bubowski said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
Really Cool Miss (Mrs) C!
This is so well put together. Yet ANOTHER fav! And the hits just keep coming...awesome production, love the understated asian feel, great percussion, nice overlay of acoustic and electronic. On and on and on...

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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
:-)
Graham, I often think of you when composing... partly because I'm always conscious of not wanting to disappoint you. The other part has to do with the fact that I'm certain you're in tuned to my music and will have a most discerning ear. I'm so very pleased you enjoyed this.

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Moodee said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
The name is Chaos... Miss Chaos...
As said very cinematic. There are many sceneries and landscape in the mind of our Miss... Jungles of creation. Many colours, sometimes fresh, sometimes dark, urge then calm. Feels like you let us visit places of your imagination and that's very pleasant.
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said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
Yeah...
What Chikoppi said.
MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
from the shadows...
Pierre-Paul, you've surfaced again -- and I'm glad you did. I got your email, too. It sounds like things are well. I will respond soon. In the meantime, I'll just say that your words mean alot here. Thank you! Ciao!

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perceptualvortex said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
Wellll
I read Drako's comment about "The Diamond Age" (perhaps my favorite fiction of all time) and now that megalopolis is what I picture too. But, banishing that from my mind, I'm probably thinking more of what it's like when you're walking through the lonely woods at night, without a flashlight, just by the moonlight (not influenced by your inverted Mt. Rainier(?) nope, not at all). I used to love doing that, and there's (imaginary) mystery and beauty and drama innit that you can't get during the daytime. Just like in this song. The plants and flowers that don't fold up at night, just watch the moon in floral wonder. That's what you've got here.
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perceptualvortex said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
On
On second listen, I have to say that I'm very reminded of the Afro Celt Sound System. Excellent work here, MissChaos!
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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
the moon
"The moon in floral wonder" . What a beautiful concept, PV. I didn't know you were such a poet. :-) I may pick your brain on titles in the future! Wow, the Afro Celts... I've listened to them a bunch in my lifetime, but never thought I'd be influenced in any way. Their stuff always has a beautifully thought-out ethnic flavor and I'm usually awestruck by their melodies. Thank you so much for your kind comment.

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paul f. page said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
Finding Satori
Your cover photo reminded me of my first synthesizer, an Alpha Syntauri...back in about 1982. The music for this number is sort of cosmic...So well mixed and orchestrated. If you've seen part 3 of 2001:A Space Odyssey this would work beautifully. It's dreamy and hopeful to me; not dark or foreboding at all. The bent notes on the flute track are mesmorzing as is the "twinkle" fade at the end... Stardust to be sure. I am glad I had the opportunity to listen to this really fine composition and look forward to hearing much more.
Paul
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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
thanks, Paul
I think I was still playing with my toy piano in 1982, but I remember the Space Odyssey -- It was a favorite of my father's. Thank you for such kind words. After listening to your songs here, I'm really humbled.

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fishboisfo said 3975 days ago (November 1st, 2006)
lovely . . .
this is very nice -- and quite well done !!
puts me in middle earth, so-to-speak.

thank you for the tune !
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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
thanks, fish!
I am making it a point to go and listen to your songs here. It seems I've fallen behind in the new members lately. I really enjoyed your bio -- I can connect with many of your thoughts. Thanks for stopping by!

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Magritte said 3975 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
My cat's name is Satori...
...and this is nothing like hunting under beds and in closets for wherever she's hiding.

BUT! It is a very lovely and evocative piece nevertheless! Great choice of sounds to produce the mood, and I love the combination of ominous and energetic that you've come up with.
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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
haha!
That's hilarious. I totally had the whole story line laid out in my mind: "Finding Satori", starring Satori the Cat. What a clever name for your cat! I have a cat named Elvis, and everytime he escapes to wander outside... I'm sure you can guess the punchline: Elvis has left the building. I think you should write your own Finding Satori and don't forget the video! Thank you for your kind words!

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Tadashi Togawa said 3975 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
Mt. Fuji that reflects on the surface of the lake.
There are five lakes in foot of Mt.Fuji.
My family name is "Togawa"

It originates in the village in the lake in foot of Mt.Fuji.
Then, my ancestor has lived.

This song is race's song.
Is it a song of my blood?
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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
thank you, Tadashi
Some of the images of Mt. Fuji leave me without words. I can only dream of seeing it in person. And now to meet someone whose ancestors lived in a village at it's foot - To live amongst it's majesty... It sounds like a dream. Thanks for stopping by.

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AppleVenus said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
very nice!
you set a nice mood here. love the flutes and the subtle vocals.
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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
hey apple!
Thanks for stopping by to listen! I just heard your Bush = Liar song last night and was groovin' to it! Will be listening to more of your stuff.

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Parichayaka said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
Favourite so far!
Here's what strikes me about your music. Most composers, for argument's sake let's call them "trained" musicians have a certain approach to music, which at best makes their music structured and transparent (I'm referring to soundtracks here) or, at worst, predictable and contrived. Now your music has this wonderful element of surprise and fresh creative energy, which combined with your intuitive sense for drama and instrumentation not only keeps getting better and better, but also goes in all kinds of directions musically. Personally, I think this piece is the best example of this particular talent of yours. I was really inspired by how you sucessfully work different sounds and rhythms from various genres into an organic, intense, dark sound adventure with a strong sense of hope or at least positive dynamic energy. All without resorting to reverbs and other "dilluting" sound effects. Love it how the rhythms come go with the distorted bass drum being the connecting link (no crash cymbals - smart!). Talent, yes, but you're starting to demonstrate some serious musical experience in composing and programming here. Sincerely impressed!
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MissChaos said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
gosh. Wow.
Sometimes it's the simple satisfaction of knowing the people you look up to "approve". I rarely know what to say about my own music because I have no technique and no standard approach. It's like reading a book: I can get lost in my thoughts and imagination; in this case, something majestic and serene yet unstable and ominous. Writing a little melody and harmony can leave me saying, "Where the heck did THAT come from?!" The truth is, I just don't understand musical talent well enough to wrap my mind around it's limitations and possibilities. But one thing I know for certain is that when I hear something I like or love, it starts a fire under me -- a sort of envious rage that I've managed to channel into writing more and more music. And sometimes it leaves me hopeless and thinking, "I'll never be that good, so why bother". You, Mr. Parichayaka, have become one of those fire-starters. Your music inspires me, plainly said. So to read this is really, really gratifying. Thank you so much.

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SmokeyVW said 3974 days ago (November 2nd, 2006)
reality
this doesn't seem dark to me at all (except maybe it's a bit dark at 60% in). in fact, i feel the title fits exactly right. this is enlightenment. seeing the entire universe as a whole.

maybe that dark patch is simply a small part of the big picture. not everything is pretty. but it's all real.

and real is all there is, in the final analysis.
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MissChaos said 3973 days ago (November 3rd, 2006)
thanks, smokey
I'm so pleased that you "get it". I think the more I do this music thing, the more enlightened I feel.

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said 3973 days ago (November 3rd, 2006)
Fantastic!
Color me blown away! This left me stunned and virtually speechless...One of the finest pieces I've ever heard in this genre. Really. It reminds me of a time-lapse film of white fluffy clouds moving rapidly over the landscape and building up into ominous thunderheads!

Take care!

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MissChaos said 3973 days ago (November 3rd, 2006)
thanks, amagi
I love "Bittersweet"! Thank you!

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Cori Ander said 3973 days ago (November 3rd, 2006)
Scary
This scares me. That was my immediate impression even before I read your text. I has deep and forceful underlying streams. Very well and professionally produced, and maybe that is why its impact is so strong.

What also amazes me is that there is a short melody theme inte there that is the leading theme in my post Oceans Crying. Maybe you've heard it and took it up unconsciously ... or else we've been co-inspired. Here is a link:

http://www.macjams.com/song/25292
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MissChaos said 3973 days ago (November 3rd, 2006)
Weird!
Cori, This is the weirdest thing. Of course, I know your song Oceans are Crying. I've listened to it a few times (even downloaded it!) and I faved it. I mentioned in it's comments how much I like it.

But I had no idea the similarity in melody until you pointed it out to me. I can't explain other than I was obviously influenced by it -- almost as if my mind was analyzing it so much that it left a permanent mark. I'm really floored right now! Please, I hope you take that as a compliment. I hold your songwriting skills in high regard.

Now I have to see if it's even in the same pitch -- wouldn't that be weird. I'm going to edit the song description here to mention you as inspiration for this song. I'm really glad you noted the comparison and pointed it out to me.

thanks for stopping by. Shoot me an email if you have any other questions about the song!

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Cori Ander said 3973 days ago (November 3rd, 2006)
Meow Miss
Oh, yes I see now and remember your comment when I see it, sorry I forgot to check back. You wrote "I'd love to toy around with this melody" LOL!

Glad you digged the theme so much. Rather interesting to study how it appears in a new and undexpected surrounding after being asleep in your subconcious for a while.

I've had similar experiences. On some occasions I have discovered after many years that I have been using a Beatles-theme or something. So for example has my post "sea" (http://www.macjams.com/song/6982) a touch of Beatles' "You never give me your money". Nobody have commented on that, and that took me some years before I (just recently) noticed myself.

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said 3973 days ago (November 3rd, 2006)
well
thats it
now Im a fan
FractalGarden said 3973 days ago (November 3rd, 2006)
Excellent
Enjoyed this very much. Beautiful cinamatic imagry would match this well. Thank you for the trip.
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The Infinites said 3973 days ago (November 4th, 2006)
Quick question(s)...
...The title? Were you listening to Bauhaus recently? Not a bad thing in my book.

Excellent kettles in there -is it a middle eastern vibe or a Japanese soundscape you were thinking? Whatever - it works brilliantly...!

Nice one!
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MissChaos said 3972 days ago (November 4th, 2006)
Hey, Infinites!
No, no Bauhaus here. But I just Googled it, and sure enough! Funny... I'll have to go listen to it now. :-) Was definitely going for a Japanese vibe. thanks so much for stopping by!

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Bowman said 3971 days ago (November 5th, 2006)
Cool, dark, mysterious
Exotic landscapes,roll past, movement- always movement. Montage of lights and darks, glimpses an overriding presence watching, on rare occasion reveling itself. Great production. Great song!
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MissChaos said 3970 days ago (November 6th, 2006)
thanks, bowman
You have a really good sense and perception of aural lightness and darkness and how that relates to visual imagery. Your bio states you're into film... I will have to investigate that further. :-) Thanks so much for the listen and comment!

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ktb said 3970 days ago (November 6th, 2006)
visual and aural epic
this painted a very expansive soundscape for me. awesome pro sounding cinematic epic. now i can't wait for the movie experience.

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Ed Hannifin said 3969 days ago (November 7th, 2006)
Sometimes I'm so embarrassed...
...that I miss or almost-miss something really good, especially from someone whose work I enjoy...

I'm listening to this somewhat louder than I usually do, for no particular reason, and over really nice headphones, and this is almost mind-altering...

I really love your 'envious rage' comment above. I so relate to that...

Ed
lholden said 3969 days ago (November 8th, 2006)
Amazing!
Thank you so much for sharing your work. It is truly inspiring and beautiful. Well done!
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K.I.S.KISMET said 3968 days ago (November 8th, 2006)
Epic
The beginning starts out so transparent and light, like a bubble, then bursting into a fantastic explosion of light and color. An aural map to another place and time.
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Doadars Uncle said 3967 days ago (November 9th, 2006)
Oh yes!
Great development! Expansive. Epic! Makes me want to make a film!
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TRYUK said 3958 days ago (November 19th, 2006)
Flowing waves
I really like your work and have done for some time. This peice is just the sort of thing I enjoy most. You use instruments well to create moods, something that not everyone does, or should I say not everyone achieves. For me it is all about emotions, and this is a rollercoaster ride from darkness to light and beyond, superb.

Tim.
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Scott Carmichael said 3956 days ago (November 20th, 2006)
wow
You've really got some ears there... certainly cinematic, very visual, and the clarity in your mix makes me jealous... textured and interesting through all the movements... this is a great ride

and congat's.. long lived happy blessings to you both
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j2morrow said 3955 days ago (November 21st, 2006)
Awesome
Finding Satori refers to discovery, lifting the veil from reality to a deeper truth. This has a touch of darkness to it but does has the feel of a revelation. Liked this a lot. I mean A Lot. Thanks.
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Joshosh said 3947 days ago (November 29th, 2006)
Amazing
As a TV Producer and editor, I hear a LOT of scored music. This track is right up there with the best of them. I could hear this cut anywhere, from Documentaries to Hollywood to The Apprentice. Its a gem.


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MissChaos said 3947 days ago (November 29th, 2006)
wow, thanks
Really nice of you to say so. I think you just made my day!

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rsolorio said 3947 days ago (November 30th, 2006)
Lovely piece of music
The mix sparkles. Thanks for the opportunity to hear yet another awesome talent here at MJ.

Off to listen to other tunes here and hear how those speakers shine on those.
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time said 3938 days ago (December 8th, 2006)
OOOOhhh...
This is a fantastic piece of work. I'm bummed that downloads was off-line when visited. I've got a long road trip ahead and would of loved to add this to the iPod. The synthetic and natural percussion sounds work great together, ( I wouldn't have thought) along with the orchestral and synth sounds. It takes me on a ride to a wonderful world of primitively lush landscapes and filled with the joy and activities life. I love the way you gently drag me out of this world slowly, mournfully to force this listener back to reality only to dream of the day to return.

Very good work.

I would rate this above Kitaro's Silk Road "part ll anyway" which is one of my favorites, as his piece is a bit dated due to the synths used at the time. The one thing I noticed, are those pesky pops...it that in the .mp3 conversion? Any way they certainly don't take away from the beauty and incredible arrangement of this piece.

I need to swim in this one for a few weeks!
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composerclark said 3929 days ago (December 17th, 2006)
Cori sent me ...
Johannes (Cori) just E-mailed me about this, and it's wonderful! I can hear the hints of "Oceans are crying" here, especially towards the end, but to be honest, I don't know if I would have caught it. Really, the main reactions I have are that it is really well and artfully done -- you have a really sensitive ear for colour and texture -- and quite stirring. I'm not sure how I'd categorize the mood; sort of ominous, possibly forboding, but there's something hopeful and very pretty in there too. I really, really love those really deep bass sounds that happen periodically. Great job!
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MissChaos said 3929 days ago (December 17th, 2006)
Wow, thanks, ComposerClark
I didn't realize the similarity either until he mentioned it in the comments. Something subconscious (or unconscious?) stuck with me when I heard Johannas' song. Now it's only appropriate to note the influence.

These are very encouraging things you said here. If I succeed at anything, it's taking all these comments to heart and exploring the little nuances that people tend to point out to me. And coming from you, well... it's a very powerful thing to leave your thoughts here for me. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

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Cori Ander said 3929 days ago (December 17th, 2006)
Just want to add
Hi, just for sure I want to add that I mentioned the subject not to complain, but because we were discussing this interesting subject. I have at least two tunes that I have made where I discovered years later that I had copied themes I've heard elswhere. And lately there was an interesting coincidence in McBoy's latest and truely wonderful post which composerclark and felt resembled a tune that McBoy himself is unaware of ever hearing.

Where do musical ideas come from?
How do they live around in the head and heart of the owner, till one day they come out as music?
Very complex things to ask, but suerly interesting, sometimes I think dreams are involved, maybe even very often .. and very much ...


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composerclark said 3929 days ago (December 17th, 2006)
Where do musical ideas come from?
My theory is that on some level artists tap into what Jung called the collective unconscious, referred to as 'a reservoir of the experiences of our species.' for the sources of their (our) inspiration. The way in which art becomes realized differs according to culture (both musical and sociological), experience, means, personality, and multiple other factors, but I think at the deepest level we're all drawing from a common well.

As I said to Johannes earlier today, it doesn't surprise me when I hear similarities between two musical compositions; given the restrictions of the tonal music system and the structural limitations of most pop music, it surprises me that it doens't happen more often.

The whole concept of 'originality' in art is complex and, I think, often misunderstood. It is a voting category here, which means it is something that is perceived to be of value in creating art, but the reality is that if people started creating works that were groundbreakingly original, it is likely that few people would like them, because there would be nothing there that they could relate to. There has to be something familiar about art for most of us to like it. The reason 'originality' is felt to be important, I think, is because if art is too familiar, we tend not to like it because it feels like a cheap imitation of something else.

My personal advice to anyone who asks about this when I teach is to not become overly concerned with originality. The main goal for an aspiring composer is to develop craft, which simply means a musical vocabulary, so that we can say what we want how we want. And since we are all inherently similar and disimilar, what results will be somewhat original and somewhat not, but hopefully well crafted, and hopefully this will speak to people.

Whew! How long-winded I am! Sorry about that... My main point is that this is extremely well-crafted, and plenty original, and I am glad to have heard it!

I will be quiet now.

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MissChaos said 3929 days ago (December 17th, 2006)
I am amongst smart folks
Not long-winded at all. In fact, I'll probably remember this 'conversation' each and every time I sit down in front of my keys to play something original. I agree and glad that I'm not the only one who has been caught up in the "what really IS original?" questions. I've had these discussions at length with _nderscore, who really values originality, and I've become frustrated by the whole enigma. One person says "She's uses piano in each of her songs. That's not original. Piano has been used a billion times." And yet another person may say "But this song made me FEEL a feeling I've never felt through music before. That qualifies as original to me."

I've realized that there are a few catagorically different types of listeners, just as there are personalities out there (for psychologists, I guess). The simplest way I've figured out how to separate them is to say there are those to listen to Parts & Pieces (Analytical, Dissective, Engineers, Mechanics, etc) and there are those who are Holistic Listeners (Feeling, Perceiving, Submerged in the mood and pictures of the story, Film makers, etc). To the analyst, original is much harder to acheive. To the Holistic listener, it's the journey, the climax and the finale -- ie: "This song has changed my life. I laughed. I cried. This moved me." Rarely, I think, do these two styles converge. So it's very hard for anyone to acheive originality.

But I think Jung is right. Every experience, whether we dream it, fear it, lived it or love it, is stored somewhere precious. And we probably access that information during all phases of our consciousness. Lucky us -- Our outlet is music, and the possibilities are really endless.

Thanks for giving me so much to think about. I'm a smarter person today.

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Cori Ander said 3927 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
Hi again _ndies and Clark
Hi again _ndies and Clark,

This is such an interesting and educating conversation that I feel it would make up a great forum thread. I think many MJ:ers would become interested and engaged in it.

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zenbomb said 3906 days ago (January 10th, 2007)
excellent work
This was such a great track. So many things strike me immediately- melodically, it's very tight and leaves me with a lifted feeling. It makes me imagine being in the midst of a forest which is absolutely alive all around and yet I'm left with a feeling of distant yearning.

This track was intensely evocative as is so much of your work. I really dig the texture you accomplish with a very dynamic mix as well. Much respect!
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MissChaos said 3898 days ago (January 18th, 2007)
much respect back!
Thanks so much for your thoughts on this. I do truly hope you come back to MJ and not let a few folks get under your skin. You've been really kind and generous and we NEED more of you around here. Anyhow, I hope you get a chance to read this and reconsider. Bring your music back!

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domdino said 3895 days ago (January 20th, 2007)
WOW!
This was really beautiful.

I LOVED the vocals and flutes its really fantastic. Percussion was the only part I was less excited about would kind of like to hear it without the percussion/with selected percussion.

But WOW this is really beautiful overall.

Yay.
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MarkOne said 3883 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
Cool!
This is great! A brilliantly inventive piece - simple yet ingenious. Your use of the sonic space and mix of instruments holds the attention and it moves along a nice pace. Well done, its inspiring - I must try something in this style myself. Thanks for sharing!

Mark
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MissChaos said 3882 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
Hey Mark
Wow, I really appreciate your comments! It keeps me going -- and thinking I'm not a total goof when it comes to music. :-)

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guitapick said 3877 days ago (February 7th, 2007)
Wow!
Howsa, howsa! This blows me away. Kudos, M.C.
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Bob
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MissChaos said 3876 days ago (February 8th, 2007)
wow
Thanks Bob! No -- make that Many, Many Thanks, Bob! :-)

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legato said 3699 days ago (August 4th, 2007)
Documentary stlye for me IMHO
Dark, dark is right up my alley! At times this piece did exhibit a dissonant (not in a bad way) chord or two but the overall melody was of motion moving forward, by that; I mean the style of the percussion almost safari/exploration or even tribal. If the drums were programmed my hat%u2019s off to you. Very high quality and well produced. If not, what did you use for percussion?

My thoughts again were being influenced by the story that was being told thru your piece.
I see animals migrating for survival from one area to another henceforth the safari comment above. I also see the great oceans in chaos. Land or sea there is great peril for mother earth (the cup the holds life) if we the people don%u2019t do something about it!

I love how music can do that Cinematic or not-it%u2019s just a label. I have been out for a long time, but I love to hear people (friends continue with their passions) staying the course with the things they love. I glad MC you are still sharing pieces with us.

Your fan
Patrick

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sschedra said 2952 days ago (August 20th, 2009)
Very nice!
I will have to check out your other work. I came here to look at your soundtrack pieces because I am posting some of that kind of stuff under my alter ego Studio_E. This is just marvelous. Emotion from music is such a rewarding experience. Although I can enjoy music that appeals to my brain (or even my hormones), I much prefer music that "moves me". This piece does. I will check out your other soundtrack stuff too.
Stephen
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papag said 734 days ago (September 16th, 2015)
the flow
in this song is huge. The horns around 2:30 were profound and made me think of spy film themes juxtaposed with space movie majestic moments... whatever all that means...

thanks for the download
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