rich and dark &mdash 12/09/06 - 02:24:32 PM
Wow, splendid start of the song. And a great pulsing beat and bass are the constant underlaying drivers. As ususal and typical, there is happening a whole lot in a short timeframe. This makes it very rich on one side, but maybe sometimes also a bit distracting (especially from the vocals) on the other side. Hey, these are dark lyrics that you're singing Lisa... I adore your vocalising so much in this track. Hmmm... speed isn't always synonim to a bad delivery. Proven right here. Top-notch production quality as always.
- Walter [ Reply to This ]
Vocals &mdash 12/09/06 - 02:54:18 PM
Thanks for saying you liked the vocals, Walter. You'll laugh when I say this, but I was pretending I was you when I sang it. I wasn't too sure I'd done okay with them, so I'm very pleased that you think they came out okay, since I admire your singing so much.
Of course, I don't have access to the cool accent! [ Reply to This ]
Joyous! &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:49:27 PM
And mint cookies - see, what a nice trip that was! This was super-tasty, it reminded me of 1982 in Los Angeles, K-ROQ 106.7 FM - that track would've owned! Great production - I agree about the verb, nuff sed. Lisa, your diva is showing - I'm lovin' it! 60 Tracks. At 60 tracks, my Quicksilver would've turned around, looked at me, grumbled "WTF?" and left the house. Serious. --- Mahalo nui loa,
Bing Futch
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!!! &mdash 12/09/06 - 02:34:33 PM
Thanks, greg &mdash 12/12/06 - 12:36:56 PM
Y'all hard place...wait, that's not right. Is it?
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"On one hand..." and "Your hands gave..." &mdash 12/09/06 - 02:53:28 PM
Love the 'lift' there!! Great use of pads :) throughout too
love the end - the bass and the rolls the kinda evaporate
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Warmvox &mdash 12/12/06 - 12:38:27 PM
Thanks so much. I really love what Matt did with the disintegration at the end, too.
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I'm gonna be brutal... &mdash 12/09/06 - 03:33:25 PM
I'm gonna be brutal... BEWARE THE 'VERB!
Vox in a toilet methinks. There, i said it. Sorry, i must have fallen out of bed he wrong way this morning. Otherwise... very cool :-)
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and another thing... &mdash 12/09/06 - 03:37:17 PM
and another thing... this is not 'Alternative Rock' - 'pop' maybe?
Wow, how bitchy am I today?
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We Find Your Lack of Faith Disturbing :-) &mdash 12/12/06 - 12:46:27 PM
I'd say you're about as bitchy as any other day, my friend. :D
I think I agree with you and Jim that the reverb should come down, especially in the first verse. As we said this was a very quickly put togther song and we're just now able to sit back and listen to it with objective ears. I appreciate the input, witchie-poo. [ Reply to This ]
Isn't there some law ......... &mdash 12/09/06 - 03:37:54 PM
.... about using 60 tracks in GB : ) ? An excellent start to this "work in progress". Powerful stuff Lisa and Matt - enjoyed it a lot.
Neil [ Reply to This ]
Yes! &mdash 12/12/06 - 12:50:08 PM
I think it's the "You'd Better Have a Ton of RAM" statute.
Thanks, Neil. [ Reply to This ]
Well I've heard more... &mdash 12/09/06 - 04:20:25 PM
reverb...verb...verb...verb... But I'd be with Pie and cut it back a hair.The vocal reminds me a lot of 99.5F degrees era Suzanne Vega, maybe a dance mix of that. I'd also like a good kick drum to drive this, and bring the vocal up a bit, instruments down a bit. Lotsa cool stuff in there, though. Looking forward to a download of this (or maybe one that's more like your final version) Pretty knockout-supa-dupa for a rough draft. [ Reply to This ]
Supa Dupa &mdash 12/12/06 - 12:52:46 PM
Thanks for the very helpful suggestions, Jim. I'm surprised to hear you say the vox needs to come up, because I was kind of wondering if it needed to come down, but that's through headphones, so maybe it would be different on a stereo.
I think I'm with you and Pie, too. Let's go and get milkshakes. [ Reply to This ]
Delirium... &mdash 12/09/06 - 06:36:09 PM
...or maybe Delerium? (just a touch)
Fantastic lyrics! I'd love to know what was the inspiration behind the image of the thistle.
This is 60 tracks of pure delicious soundwaves. I like the loop just thrumming along very quietly in there. [ Reply to This ]
Miss Magritte, soon to be Mrs... &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:02:12 PM
You know, I'd kind of like to know where the thistle came from, too. I often figure out later, the meaning of things I've written, but I have no clue on this one, except that it has assonance with "sickness," which is probably why I chose it. I'm a sucker for taking an image all the way through a song, mostly because it makes the writing easier.
The one thing I do like about the thistle is that it plays well into the whole concept of a stalker being someone you can't shake, like a thistle burr. I guess this is sort of a pre-stalker song, in a way.
Thanks for saying you liked the song. [ Reply to This ]
Works for me! &mdash 12/09/06 - 07:53:48 PM
If this is what comes out listening to Walter... I would listen again and again:) Great vocals. Laidback and cool Lisa. I don't find the reverb distracting or negative in the mix. Works for me!
The mix with all the things going on is well taken care of. Chilled grooves with a hot bass making my head nod, and those perc things happening is getting me off my chair.
Congratulations on a fine piece of art! [ Reply to This ]
Thor &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:04:13 PM
Thanks for the lovely comment. I think it's a good idea to listen to Walter over and over again, regardless, but he really did inspire me this time around. ;-) [ Reply to This ]
Thor &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:04:14 PM
Thanks for the lovely comment. I think it's a good idea to listen to Walter over and over again, regardless, but he really did inspire me this time around. ;-) [ Reply to This ]
Hah! &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:14:38 PM
excellent &mdash 12/09/06 - 08:21:27 PM
i can't believe this is a LIOLI submission. the fact that you had that specific criteria to build around and then developed this is absolutely amazing. I wanna be Matt when I grow up. its got a very ultra hip feel to it. Stellar pipes there as always Lisa. The full version will be frightening. [ Reply to This ]
Me Too! &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:10:22 PM
I want to be Matt when I grow up, too! I think he comes up with really interesting stuff and I'm very lucky to be in a band with him. I also would love to see you guys do a few songs together.
RE: the final version being frightening. We live to terrify, so that's good. :D [ Reply to This ]
Funky dark stuff &mdash 12/09/06 - 11:17:31 PM
Excellent mix - lots of energy, nice vocal delivery (with a certain sang froid) and all in all really rather catchy! Would d/l if I could...
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Thanks, Komrade &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:24:35 PM
I'm very, very pleased you enjoyed the song and sang froid is one of my favorite words, along with weltschmerz.
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what a rush!... &mdash 12/10/06 - 04:01:07 AM
...it's like I'm hearing the Cocteau Twins again! (Exceptc, the lyrics are discernable...& I love Lisa's voice...LOL!)
Anyway guys....great job....erm, sheesh, I might have to fave this one! [ Reply to This ]
Awww &mdash 12/10/06 - 04:16:20 AM
Thanks, Alf. You know it's funny that you mention the Cocteau Twins, because I had originally envisioned CT style sound-language on the chorus, but then thought better of it.
I'm so happy you liked it!
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hot stufff &mdash 12/10/06 - 09:57:07 AM
it sizzles and shnizzles.......and takes me on a trip... a movie of the mind.....thanks! [ Reply to This ]
Silly McFella &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:28:03 PM
What they didn't tell you at the Schnizzle Travel Agency is that this bus is going to Decatur. Hope you have a hat. :-) [ Reply to This ]
There's the world as we customarily perceive it... &mdash 12/10/06 - 05:04:58 PM
...and then there is the Orbiting world...
Where we don't know what is happening, but we know what is happening.
'Beware the broken-hearted/we often disobey' is quite the cap line...
This thing is sixty layers of intense wrapped in some vine-clinging beauty... And no one else makes human love and sex sound so, well, dangerous...
And listening to an Orbiting track is like attending a great performance of a great drama... you have to go away to a quiet cafe afterwards and just let yourself understand it...let yourself believe that you will and can eventually begin to understand it...
Let it be all that it is and get over believing that you have to choose either/or...
Ed [ Reply to This ]
But... &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:30:44 PM
Human love and sex, IS dangerous, especially if one is wearing something studded. ;-)
"Let it be all that it is and get over believing that you have to choose either/or..." I'm going to have to go of and mull over that one myself. Also, don't be surprised if I rip off the comment for song lyrics. That's in the fine print.
I always enjoy your comments, Ed. Thanks so much for your ongoing support of what Matt and I are doing. [ Reply to This ]
Ha! &mdash 12/12/06 - 08:51:33 PM
""Let it be all that it is and get over believing that you have to choose either/or..." I'm going to have to go of and mull over that one myself. Also, don't be surprised if I rip off the comment for song lyrics."
I've got an idea that might work; let's all just mine Ed's comments for song lyrics, why don't we, he's got a way with words that is pretty special!
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<a href="http://www.macjams.com/song/27014">My latest song "Didn't It Rain?"</a> [ Reply to This ]
Never a dull moment in orbit &mdash 12/10/06 - 10:58:33 PM
great track and creative hiding of the loop. the soundspace is really well laid out - nice work. Cool lyrics and vox - all the way a hit! [ Reply to This ]
Bud &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:34:07 PM
Thanks for enjoying the song. You mentioned the creative hiding of the loop. I know that Matt used it in a lot of really interesting ways. He mentioned "sounds of doom" in the early portion of the song being created by it and I know it's in the break, but I'm interested to hear more from him about the ways he used it. I hope that he'll chime in here. [ Reply to This ]
Where is the loop? &mdash 12/13/06 - 07:52:05 AM
Well, that crashing sound of doom at the beginning is actually the loop laid over a noise sound patch. I just like it. That is the first thing I did in the song. The other instance of it is a totally CamelSpaced version that pops up in the chorus and the spaces between the chorus and the next verse. Originally, it had more prominence, but as I added tracks and the vocals came in, it sort of became a texture rather than a feature. I'm very familiar with Lisa's song "After All," which happens to use the same loop, so I wanted the song to feel different for her. [ Reply to This ]
Xellent &mdash 12/11/06 - 12:20:16 AM
The 'verb on the vocals doesn't bother me. Great singing, Lisa, you're really sounding like moorlandt in this song :) I can feel the energy you put into your performance; the way you're dancing in your mind comes through in your voice. Matt, I really admire your ability to make this kind of top-notch ear candy. Hah, love that ending. This sounds really beautiful, nice work guys! [ Reply to This ]
Perhaps.. &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:36:04 PM
I wonder if you meant "sexellent." :-)
So glad you enjoyed it, David and that you think I sound like Walter (hee hee). Thank you for furthering my delusions. If I could sing with half the emotion he does, I'd be thrilled. [ Reply to This ]
Stomp, stomp, stomp! &mdash 12/11/06 - 12:29:10 AM
Poke a wooden stick in me and push me around the dancefloor... I'll soak up the sweat like a mop! Then I will wring my hair out and drink it. I love it.
Your tunes get just better and better... you two. [ Reply to This ]
Problemo &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:38:35 PM
You know, I see a problem with the whole mop thing. If we poke a stick in you, you'll bleed all over the floor and, unless you have tremendously absorbent hair, that mopping thing may not work out too well.
I love your comments. [ Reply to This ]
yeah... &mdash 12/12/06 - 05:12:29 PM
you are right...everybody would just start slipping around in the blood, falling all over each other... and before you know it you got a blood wrestling orgy goin' on. [ Reply to This ]
Carrie &mdash 12/12/06 - 09:57:34 PM
Cool &mdash 12/11/06 - 08:41:20 PM
Thistle be on my iPod!
This rawks guys. Love the lyrics! Especially the last three lines. Well done. [ Reply to This ]
kind of dark &mdash 12/11/06 - 10:12:54 PM
i love all the sounds in here - i wonder if there might be just a tad too much happening all at once?
pro vocals - lots of reverb and echo, but i like that!
eery lyrics - also great! especially that final warning - *shudder* :-)
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WELL NOW... &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:20:25 AM
REALLY can't wait to hear this one a good system, cause even on this piece of shiate, I can tell that this is a sophisticated piece of work. You guys are really putting out some very interesting stuff. I mean, 'interesting', as in, I can't wait to really sit and be still with this to really hear what's going on.
Very cool and unique vocal approach to this, Lisa! This one has to have you guys proud - Quite inventive! Man I can't wait to really listen to this.
Very cool stuff you guys.
Groovn' to the 3rd degree! Dion
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Yo! Guys &mdash 12/12/06 - 04:32:17 AM
I'm listening on a decent system!!! - I'm here w/ a friend and having a drink, or two, I think... I'm introducing him to MJS -- You guys are so cool! This is awesome stuff! This Really nice stuff guys! Really!!! It is likely that I'm too impressed right now, but say hey, that was the goal -- Yep, you belong way up here... Hahahaha... Thanks! Dion [ Reply to This ]
60 tracks! &mdash 12/12/06 - 12:44:53 PM
And it still doesn't feel crowded, it's nice and roomy. You've done a very nice job with it, music and vocals are great. If this is the work in progress, I'm sure to be blown away by the finished piece. [ Reply to This ]
great sound &mdash 12/12/06 - 01:06:13 PM
Wow what a production love the change when ledebutant sings the chorus
this is killer top notch [ Reply to This ]
My Ears &mdash 12/12/06 - 02:42:17 PM
I recently mentioned to another MJer that my ears want something new... I wouldn't expect it to be Electropop... I'm old and rusting, and I can't imagine myself out at clubs (that's what electropop sounds like)... but this has a few elements that transend genre for me... the production is stelar... I'm not sure that there is too much reverb(PIE)... to much reverb usually happens because someone doesn't like there vox... I don't think that's the case here... this sounds more like a dream or detachment (observing your own life from the outside)... which is where emotional turmoil often leaves us... so it worked for me...
the second element is the lyrical content... I love the eliptical course taken to create impresssions... people can glean what meaning they will.. you've left things open.... and the atmosphere is mysterious
exxxxellllent... all around [ Reply to This ]
Joyous! &mdash 12/12/06 - 03:44:08 PM
And mint cookies - see, what a nice trip that was! This was super-tasty, it reminded me of 1982 in Los Angeles, K-ROQ 106.7 FM - that track would've owned! Great production - I agree about the verb, nuff sed. Lisa, your diva is showing - I'm lovin' it! 60 Tracks. At 60 tracks, my Quicksilver would've turned around, looked at me, grumbled "WTF?" and left the house. Serious. [ Reply to This ]
piercing &mdash 12/12/06 - 08:02:33 PM
A wonderful job, esp being under the gun. Piercing lyrics. A terrific groove.
Can't wait to see what you do to it later. [ Reply to This ]
Prickley &mdash 12/13/06 - 03:53:57 AM
Well, you've so many fans for this I'm not sure you can fit any more in. Not sure what's left to say - the production and vocals are excellent, as always, and it's another beautifully written, well structured track. The more songs I hear from you, the more you develop your own sound and style, guys. The electro instrumentation is thoughtfully put together, and throbs along nicely, contrasting with Lisa's languid vocal, the lyrical style more suited to folk or poetry- it kinda clashes with the music, yet works well with it. Murder and spurned love set to a dance beat - wonderful.
More more more - I can't wait to have an album in my grubbly little mitts!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
yeah.... &mdash 12/15/06 - 02:15:05 PM
this is, like, good and stuff....
wonderful lyrical content, good delivery, a decent soundbed for venting.
Unlike many of the others, I think the 'verb levels are right on. The effect gives the track great depth.
The music isn't anything that I would normally listen to, but it works well with the vox.
Great track. [ Reply to This ]
Floored &mdash 12/15/06 - 04:36:39 PM
2 in 1 song &mdash 12/16/06 - 09:08:21 AM
this orbitingcollab seems very inspirating...you always bring up surprising tracks. i like the input of you two in one song.
in this lisa did really a good singing.also nice lyrics...lovely ,dark style... [ Reply to This ]
Drifting... orbiting... &mdash 12/17/06 - 01:07:26 PM
You guys are really stamping your brand all over the place and everyone seems to want one! You have a very distinct quality of music which is undoubtedly circling, revolving and orbiting planet Macjams! It has futuristic appeal to it, with a youthful energy and an infectious rhythm that grows in you the more you listen to it. Lisa's voice is a soothing balm on a burning wound, and Illuminati's music is both energizing and hypnotic... the kind of music I would like to hear at the end of the day in my favorite lounge. [ Reply to This ]
NARBULATION &mdash 12/17/06 - 08:06:46 PM
Thistleilation! Another song about Johnny Ray? Nice track and cool effects on the vocals! Spacey cool tracks in the total chick song genre! [ Reply to This ]
Good singing &mdash 12/18/06 - 08:24:35 PM
Tough lyrics. Your singing is very confident on this song. I think it's the best of yours I've heard.
The backing tracks are also very effective, matching the lyrics very well. A very well constructed piece. [ Reply to This ]
Thistle - that's a funny word! &mdash 12/30/06 - 06:05:32 PM
This has a strong Garbage vibe to it, especially in the chorus - I'm a big fan of their sound! The synths sound great (the loop is completely reborn by a... what, arpeggiator?) and the high frequency washes behind the vocals are a nice touch. The bass break just past the halfway mark is a well-timed choice. Lots of complexity in the rhythm and ambient synths. I can see this piece consuming 60 tracks! For a rush job you got the vocals (nice job as usual Lisa!) to sit snuggly in the mix. I like the unexpected deconstruction at the end. Very cool! [ Reply to This ]
hej &mdash 01/08/07 - 04:40:55 AM
.. &mdash 01/09/07 - 01:44:21 PM
haha, proud daddy here .. think Sunbeam has been around a lot today (I love you my clever kid).
Translation:
what a well trained voice you have the picture is fabulous lilac and everything
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V. Good &mdash 02/02/07 - 08:20:18 PM
Nice and wide open mix
I look forwards to hearing the finished version. [ Reply to This ]
Real Full &mdash 04/18/07 - 04:50:32 PM
Love all the sounds in this. Your singing Is right on nothing forced. love the way you come in and out of each verse. THe music on this is top notch must be some nice equipment you guys are using! [ Reply to This ]
Excellent &mdash 07/27/07 - 12:01:22 AM
Well, this song has been around for a while - but it's the first time I've heard it - and downloaded it! A great track with a fantastic production and stunning vocal. Love the lyrics - mysterious, ambiguous - delivered superbly - I hear a bit of Suzanne Vega in the chorus's especially(?) - no bad thing!
Musically there are loads of references here - UK bands like Laika and Lamb, as well as Orbital - but it still has a very unique sound. This quality really should be out there in HMV! [ Reply to This ]
This is a cool song &mdash 04/07/08 - 11:37:02 PM
Not one of your better ones but given the pressed time you put it together I would say pretty damn good. [ Reply to This ]
Cool! &mdash 05/28/08 - 02:46:46 AM
Excellent by all means.. great vocals and fine music work!
Take Care
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