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REAL WORLD by Vic Holman [Email]
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Description:
This actually started out as an experiment in harmonizing guitar lines. 5 guitars playing a different note. (you'll hear 'em at the beginning and during the chorus). I ended up building the song from there. always the tinkerer i added another 6 guitar tracks. some more harmonizing parts and some do different things.

The lyrics i wrote last summer when the power went out. With only candle light you start to think about the stuff you've gone through and how you see yourself and others. Usually everyone is open but we do have our defenses as well.

Well thats the word on the street.

Lyrics:
Real World

without words i can hardly express
the pain and all the regrets
sometimes i'm so brainless
it's me who creates my own mess

and i built this wall
protecting me from fall
going down and climbing up

chorus:
this is the real world
we'll say anything
this is the real world
behind our walls

maybe i'm to self conscience
insecure and in doubt
i pretend to know it all
in control not to fall

and i built this wall
protecting me from fall
going down and climbing up

chorus:
this is the real world
we'll say anything
this is the real world
behind our walls

what happened to heart and soul
hard violence around the world
is it hate to fuel our egos
or hatred of any rivals

and i built this wall
protecting me from fall
going down and climbing up

chorus:
this is the real world
we'll say anything
this is the real world
behind our walls

without the power you become blind
silence darkness disturbs the mind
with the downtime what do you find
sometimes your company isn't kind

and i built this wall
protecting me from fall
going down and climbing up

chorus:
this is the real world
we'll say anything
this is the real world
behind our walls

Hardware:
imac, ibanez ew acoustic, ibanez sa electric gtr & bass, epiphone dot deluxe. digitech gnx2, bbe sonic stomp pedal, shure 57 mike, m-audio keyboard for playing drums, m-aduio interface

Software:
logic express
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Top song, Vic! &mdash 02/18/07 - 10:25:35 AM
"without words i can hardly express

i pretend to know it all
in control not to fall

what happened to heart and soul"

...some choice lyrics from your well written song.

I love the guitar sound you get. How do you do what you do ... ?
another classic sounding tune that I fav'd and DL-d.

The guitar harmony chorus is Grrreat. Song is grrreat.

... Tony the Tiger




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hey jack &mdash 02/18/07 - 06:50:39 PM
my relpy is farther down. something screwy with replies

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solid song &mdash 02/18/07 - 01:16:24 PM
This is one hell of a solid guitarrock song, Vic. Melodically very simple and straightforward in a good way. Productionwise pretty perfect. Could you put up the lyrics for this poor non-native english guy?

- Walter

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Thanks Walter &mdash 02/18/07 - 04:33:15 PM
i appreciate it. True, at the heart it is a straight forward song. i knew if I was going to add a lot of additional guitar parts i would to keep the structure simple.

I don't know why you are not seeing the lyrics. i've cut and pasted them. maybe this will work.

Real World

without words i can hardly express
the pain and all the regrets
sometimes i'm so brainless
it's me who creates my own mess

and i built this wall
protecting me from fall
going down and climbing up

chorus:
this is the real world
we'll say anything
this is the real world
behind our walls

maybe i'm to self conscience
insecure and in doubt
i pretend to know it all
in control not to fall

and i built this wall
protecting me from fall
going down and climbing up

chorus:
this is the real world
we'll say anything
this is the real world
behind our walls

what happened to heart and soul
hard violence around the world
is it hate to fuel our egos
or hatred of any rivals

and i built this wall
protecting me from fall
going down and climbing up

chorus:
this is the real world
we'll say anything
this is the real world
behind our walls

without the power you become blind
silence darkness disturbs the mind
with the downtime what do you find
sometimes your company isn't kind

and i built this wall
protecting me from fall
going down and climbing up

chorus:
this is the real world
we'll say anything
this is the real world
behind our walls

Thanks again for taking the time to listen, appreciated.

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now where's those car keys?

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more than words &mdash 02/18/07 - 04:24:40 PM
i guess these are my contemplaintive take on things. wrote them last summer during a power outage by candlelight.

guitars huh?
this could get techy but i can give you a few things for starters
use compression on everything
i use (most of the time a high pass filter at around 270 on frequency ( it narrows the sound in the mix)
acoustics i always use two hard left & hard right. (my acoustic has a xlr input jack to go straight in.
for electrics i use a modeling pedal board so i'm not taxing the memory on the computer. i usually boost the mids for more cut and add whatever effects like delay & reverb and wahtever else.
a big thing i also found when youget quite a few things going you may need to constantly adjust the panning to avoid other elements that might come into play like vocals additional lead guitar stuff.

Thats just the basic stuff. hope you it helps!

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thanks mate... &mdash 02/18/07 - 09:16:30 PM
I'll give this some experimenting with my guitars....

cheers

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Dadai... It's just music

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Very tasty rhythm guitar work &mdash 02/18/07 - 05:36:31 PM
in the second verse ther Vic - and the harmonizing guitar sound is really effective (infinite Joe Walshes). Great kyrics and vox as usual. But again it's nice hearin the high end git workin out in there.

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funky guitar &mdash 02/18/07 - 06:59:20 PM
to bad i had to put that farther back in the mix. fingers where flying through those chords. something i learned from latter hendrix funky rythm work. the harmonized guitars was what got me going on the song. when they where alone it was very queen like. sometime it will have to be harmonized basses. .....oops i think spinal tap did that already.

thanks for the time to listen! appreciated!

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now where's those car keys?

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You know &mdash 02/19/07 - 07:50:53 PM
you keep on producing as fast as you do and you wont be able to catch up with yourself. Excellent production and now adding color a group of latin american meat packing glitterarte!!!!!

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funny &mdash 02/19/07 - 09:57:53 PM
sometimes i wonder the same thing. but if i can squeeze just one more track in......back when i went through college i had a part time job cleaning up at a meat store. believe me there was no glitter there.

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now where's those car keys?

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Needs more guitar... &mdash 02/19/07 - 10:19:41 PM
.... like all your arrangements....

Also needs a letter 'e'... But maybe that's just me... Detail oriented at all the wrong times...

I like the melody, especially on the chorus.... and I like your vocals... and I think this is one of your best sets of lyrics... In 1972 this would have been on the next Mott album... You'ld'a been invited to parties with the Raspberries and T. Rex and Badfinger... hired as a producer... both sides of the Atlantic...

This being now, maybe it's just time to start that boutique indie label....

Ed

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thats what i thought &mdash 02/19/07 - 11:48:48 PM
one more guitar. after i realized i missed the "e" i looked it up: an abnormal rattling sound in the lungs heard through a stethoscope:: funny enough to keep. we're 30 years to late to save mott the hoople and the raspberries. no ones invented a reliable time machine yet. but then you talking about some good energy bands that taught me how to play. i just read record sells are 30% of what they use to sell 10 years ago. we're lucky enough to be able to post our stuff here for free.

Thanks Ed! Appreciated as always.

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now where's those car keys?

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nice &mdash 03/16/07 - 09:50:17 AM
Mott and T. Rex in the same post... that brings me back to what my dad used to listen to when I was growing up. Great stuff and I can hear the influences too.

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"The pump don't work cuz the Vandals took the handle"

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Oh, man &mdash 02/22/07 - 04:33:29 PM
There's that distinct Vic Holman sound again. Always good to hear that wall of guitar sound with your voice. Nice job all around.

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thanks jt &mdash 02/22/07 - 11:01:58 PM
more guitars then you can flip a pick with. not sure why i got on that kick. but its fun to fit it all in i guess. Thanks for taking the time to listen. appreciated!

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now where's those car keys?

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Solid.... &mdash 02/23/07 - 01:46:31 PM
Big sound....yeah I agree with another poster....Mott vibe, and that is good.

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thanks dennis &mdash 02/23/07 - 09:35:40 PM
appreciate it. maybe i should do a "all the way from memphis" thing.

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now where's those car keys?

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Another Guitar classic &mdash 02/25/07 - 02:15:53 PM
Vic ... when are you gonna make the album to blow the socks off the music world? Your guitar playing and songwriting is certainly good enough to make it in the 'real' world. This is another gem, with a lovely slab of chorus ... reminds me a little of the defunct, underrated Auteurs. Oh, and love the funky little guitar at the end ... before the chorus kicks in and has me singing along.

Top stuff, man.

Steve

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thanks steve &mdash 02/25/07 - 07:23:25 PM
album? i can hardly get my friends to listen! my keyboard playing has gotten so rusty i have to add more guitars. all in fun.

Thanks for the kind words, appreciated.

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now where's those car keys?

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Good song, good arrangement &mdash 02/25/07 - 07:37:37 PM
This I like a lot! Very catchy melody on the chorus, instant sing-a-long! The lyrics speaks directly to me which makes it easier to grasp of course, but this song has overall a lot of things in it, many pleasant surprises such as the arrangement, and the very well performed guitars. This is one I am going to listen to quite a bit.

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thanks mikki &mdash 02/25/07 - 07:56:48 PM
surprisingly the music came together pretty fast, at least i was surprised, considering how many guitar tracks there are here. luckily i had the lyrics written from this last summer. that seems to hold me up for days even trying to think of something.

Thanks for the good words!

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now where's those car keys?

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Rich sounding &mdash 03/04/07 - 10:40:47 AM
I could not make out the distinctive sound of each guitar but the overall effect was very rich and I could definitly hear the layering. The melody and vocals reminded me of the Beatles meet Mathew Sweet. The vocals mesh really well with the guitars. I dont think its the lyrics that are necessarily better but the phrasing on the vocals seems more honest and natural. You seem to be telling the story better.

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thanks much &mdash 03/04/07 - 06:39:04 PM
some guitars are in there for support. tak em out and it's noticable. of course you lose a bit converting down to a mp3.

Thanks for taking some time to listen and comment appreciated!

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now where's those car keys?

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hmm &mdash 03/15/07 - 07:17:29 AM
kinda beatl-y, but with Brian May on lead guitar.

what do you think of the bbe pedal?

What kind of amp did you mic with that 57?

just curious - nice guitar sounds.

Mason

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thanks &mdash 03/15/07 - 08:43:08 PM
yep its the brian may technique. fun to experiment with harmony lines.

the bbe pedal really brings a nice presence. i
m thinking of get the stereo rack mount to run everything through.

i run the electric guitars through a digitech pedal board. it has amp modeling plus you can blend 2 different amp models together too create your own. less mess and quicker that way. i have 4 amps gathering some dust

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! &mdash 04/02/07 - 07:50:38 AM
I enjoyed it overalll..You GOT IT

Thanx Lena

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ahh thanks again &mdash 04/02/07 - 11:05:15 PM
this was a bit challenging but fun to put together

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now where's those car keys?

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Hey Vic &mdash 04/03/07 - 04:51:58 AM
Just wanted to chime in and tell you that you've got a really nice sound. Very good lyrics. Can't tell you what it sounds like......but, wait a minute, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
Bravo
LL

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thanks LL &mdash 04/03/07 - 09:07:55 PM
glad you liked it. about as real as i get at times. Thanks again for taking the time to listen!

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You can hear the classic influences in this, &mdash 06/26/07 - 09:49:56 PM
You deserve a lot of credit for putting together such a stack of sounds in a really palatable manner. It's not easy to orchestrate all those different voices, I know! Your guitar harmonies are spot-on, in perfect tune. Adds a Brian May flavor. Your lyrics and voice remind me of Nick Lowe or George Harrison.

Good stuff, thanks for your feedback.
Marc

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Thanks Marc &mdash 06/27/07 - 08:21:50 PM
I'm not sure if the classical influences rubbed off or I'm trying to consciencely mimic them. :-) i guess either way it's all good.

And Marc keep putting out good stuff. I'm digging what I've been hearing!

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This is definately one of my favorites! &mdash 06/29/07 - 02:06:17 AM
You write such great lyrics. Real - I can relate to. And soft, or "rock my world" I LOVE how you play guitar!

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yep &mdash 06/29/07 - 08:48:48 PM
a bit introspective. thats what happens when the power goes out. With only a few candles and a couple of beers I wrote these pretty fast. wish that would happen all the time sometimes it can take me a week to ever start on them.

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now where's those car keys?

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Great! &mdash 05/25/08 - 02:38:32 AM
Amazing as usual... glad I stopped to listen!

Take Care
- Yeman A. Al-Rawi

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