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This has been sitting and waiting for a couple weeks while i did an entry for the LIOLI.
Seems to me the story keeps changing. Media government and even people sometimes change a situation to suit a purpose as opposed to letting the facts lay. the buck doesn't stop here anymore. unles I'm paranoid, I seriously doubt that.
Lyrics:
Truth Fades Away.
somethings are better left unsaid
sometimes words get in the way
somehow somewhere i thought you said
and your face fades away
and you dream
and you pray
all those words fade away
ch:
no matter what you say
no matter what you heard
no matter what is true
truth will fade away
everything i saw i deny it all
why blue sky blind my eyes
johnny and the whiz kids with shades on
covered my eyes from what i saw
and you think
and you blink
then those visions fade away
ch:
no matter what you see
no matter what you saw
no matter what is true
truth will fade away
i can't touch you to cover your ears
whispers so silent gone forever
don't believe everything you hear
even a promise fades today
and you dream
and you pray
all those words fade away
ch:
no matter what you say
no matter what you heard
no matter what is true
truth will fade away
Hardware:
iMac, m-audio interface and keyboard, ibanez sa electric, ibanez bass, frankenstrat, ibanez ew acoustic. Digitech GNX2. tube screamer and a jellyfish pick!
Software:
logic express
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Cool beans &mdash 05/29/07 - 08:35:03 PM
I can hear the jelly fish pick... The soft change was a great break before the rippin lead... Rock on brother!!!!!!!!!!! [ Reply to This ]
beano &mdash 05/30/07 - 12:48:29 AM
i like it nice and quite before i assault the ears. the coolest thing about that quite part is the voice i manipulate throught a pitch sifter effect in real time took quite a few time to get it.
Thanks Ego. always appreciate you listening!
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Mind bending &mdash 05/29/07 - 08:43:12 PM
These lyrics are very buddhist in nature, Good sounds you put forth into this void of ours...Perhaps my favorite so far from the vic Holman collection, this song has it all lyrics, music and great melodies...this theme kicks ass! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Tom &mdash 05/30/07 - 12:52:41 AM
the lyrics came real quickly. some times it takes my a while to even think of anything. kept em vague enough to be open to interpritation. seems to be a hot topic in quite a few songs presently as well
Thanks again Tom. i still got that reggae beat in my step
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Great break before the break - &mdash 05/29/07 - 09:16:51 PM
and even better break after the break - and I really liked everything that came before the break and after the last break including the ending and the lyrics and the singing and the guitars and production and stuff. The beginning was really cool too. I'm gonna make a point of studying this one - I hear lots of neat tricks and funny sounds. [ Reply to This ]
thems the breaks &mdash 05/30/07 - 01:01:27 AM
thats how i work generally. thinking a section at a time. usually with a acoustic (thats why there almost always in there) then build up. if you need specifics on certain sounds let me know. Either i can help or send you down the wrong path.:-)
Thanks Bud! Thanks again for the LIOLI motivation.
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Outstanding vocal &mdash 05/29/07 - 09:29:17 PM
as always, and some very cool sounds sprinkled throughout this gem. Love that sustained note before the chorus. Some very nice guitar sounds - the solo has a sound that could cut through rock. Nice clean tone on the acoustic, and great placement of all the guitars in the mix. Nothing overwhelms or gets overwhelmed. And as for the lyrics - hitting the nail on the head. Excellent stuff. Nice work. Peace. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks David &mdash 05/30/07 - 01:22:22 AM
i tried to be a little subtle on effects. just trying to be sneeky. the lead is the frankenstrat i modified with noiseless single coil pickup and locking tuners, and a maple neck really helps cut through.
Thanks again David appreciate your listening
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a jellyfish pick? &mdash 05/29/07 - 09:57:04 PM
that's the first time i ever heard one... sounds very full.
i have seen them in my mags, but have never SEEN or HEARD on.
is it as diverse as it is claimed to be?
i think you could pick up a 2X4 as a pick and it would sound great!
as always, this is a killer tune! and the subject matter is dead on!
you never dissappoint, Mr. Holman. killer! [ Reply to This ]
jelly fish &mdash 05/30/07 - 01:27:39 AM
it may be over rated for what the claims are. i used on the acoustic that comes in the second half of the verse with 8th notes it creates a 12 string sound pretty good and is a little louder then with a regular pick. the other stuff they claim is marginal. you can check out there web-site there they have videos of what it does.
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you &mdash 05/29/07 - 10:48:29 PM
have put together another great garage punk/psych classic. how did you get that lead tone at the beginning? it's like big brother and the holding company. is that the tube screamer? awesome. some really nice changes in here too. that ending is perfect as well. [ Reply to This ]
hey michael &mdash 05/30/07 - 01:33:18 AM
the lead is through my modified strat and yeah it has the tube screamer through a twin reverb, with the controls set to max, via my pedal board. the end section is part reversed, with forward guitars playing harmonized notes. like brian may does.
Thanks again for tuning in
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Holy crap Vic! &mdash 05/30/07 - 01:51:05 AM
This is fantastic Sir! Great lyrics. Floyd meets Petty vocals. Stellar guitar work. Astounding arrangement and production...You have topped yourself again Vicar. Truth may fade away brother, but may your guitar continually weep!
Be well! [ Reply to This ]
guitar &mdash 05/30/07 - 10:09:13 PM
the guitar weeps enough that i have to constantly tune it. a little time comsuming play all the parts but overall it came together pretty quick. was kinda funny that i was constantly going from guitar to guitar along the way. just working a section at a time to a basic acoustic track that i would originally put down.
Thanks bro!
i'm going to need to start replacing strings
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Great &mdash 05/30/07 - 04:39:20 AM
Can't say enough about your stuff. A fine piece of songwriting. Great guitar break.
About your lyrics: One can tell that they come naturally to you while some people try too hard to be cleaver (not talkin' bout only the songs on the site, but also CD's/radio. Must say you have a special talent for lyrics. But like me, you've probably written all your bad songs 100 songs ago.
Experience is the best teacher.
I can tell you have lots of fun doing this. I really enjoy your music.
LL [ Reply to This ]
Thanks LL &mdash 05/30/07 - 10:22:05 PM
I'm sure i'm still capable of writting a crappy song. there were quite a few i deleted (spring cleanining over a year ago) when i was beginning to learn the recording process, thinking someday i would redo them. know i don't think they were that great. It does take me a while to think of some idea for lyrics, up to a week. once i get going though it comes pretty fast.
Thanks again for the listen .really got a kick out your last tunes you posted.
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nice &mdash 05/30/07 - 08:43:04 AM
nice bit of production here, my friend.. from the clarity, and overall volume of this master, i think it is time for me to get logic......well played solo, well thought out song.. nice alt rock tune! [ Reply to This ]
thanks R.A.D. &mdash 05/30/07 - 10:28:26 PM
it took a little while to get logic down. i still learn something everytime i record a tune. just the express version gives you a whole lot of options. the lack of a real manual sucks. i normally find hints from other sources.
Thanks for taking the time to listen i really appreciate it.
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That tube screamer sure does scream! &mdash 05/30/07 - 02:52:45 PM
'Course...it's got somethin' to do with the player, too...doesn't it?
I l-o-v-e that short interlude before the first solo...tremendous songwriting and production.. [ Reply to This ]
scream and cuts &mdash 05/30/07 - 10:33:25 PM
the solo was through a strat that i put fenders noiseless pick ups in. so i got a single coil and with a maple neck it really gives a good cutting edge. but from seeing what your playing in your picture i'm sure you know that. i sometimes throw in a quite piece before the solo... to wake anyone up.
Thanks Bob.
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Same deal: &mdash 05/30/07 - 11:06:50 PM
I REALLY love those noiseless vintage pickups. Thanks for talking shop...
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I live between the notes [ Reply to This ]
;-) &mdash 05/30/07 - 11:26:39 PM
i could go on for hours about that stuff
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Excellent! &mdash 05/30/07 - 05:06:32 PM
Love this song. Amazing guitar work and great production. The break with those pitch shifter vocal effects sounds really impressive and the acoustic sounds nice and metalic - I'm guessing that it's plugged in? Fabulous work.
Peter [ Reply to This ]
thanks Peter &mdash 05/30/07 - 10:47:07 PM
the vocal bit was done on a lark through my pedal board. took several times to get something because i had to move the shift so slightly.
The acoustic is plugged in. it has a xlr output jack that really sounds better and louder that a standard 1/4 " plus i can eq them from the guitar eliminating to much tweeking later.
Thanks again Peter! i'm glad you gave it a listen!
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excellent &mdash 05/30/07 - 05:34:52 PM
Great voice!
Fine lyrics!
Delicate sound!
Professional mix!
Here are the sustains as the right points, marvellous breaks and guitar tunes.
Faved and downloaded.
Thanks a lot for sharing!
Greetings,
elektronix [ Reply to This ]
Thank you very much &mdash 05/30/07 - 10:50:52 PM
i tend to think i just got lucky. i normally start with hardly any ideas when i start recording. then something usually takes over.
Thanks for listening. truly appreciate it!
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:) &mdash 05/30/07 - 08:05:47 PM
Lyrics, song, playing and mix all work really well for me. Shades of Ray Davies, Lennon, Queen and someone else I can't quite place. A bloody excellent tune, as I've come to expect from you Vic. No nits, just appreciation!
Cheers,
Neil [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Neil &mdash 05/30/07 - 11:04:41 PM
true, i stole from them all. and then some. i'm getting closer to what i'm hearing in my head. plus getting a better handle on what the program is capable of doesn't hurt. I'm always finding some little hidden things in there. I'm already getting itchy for an upgrade.
Thanks again Neil. Always appreciate you taking the time to listen.
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Americana with SERIOUS BALLS! &mdash 05/30/07 - 09:10:28 PM
I've heard more Americana alterna/folk/rock at MacJams than I've heard in my entire life, and I'm really liking most of it. But this song is a bit different: it is seriously ballsy! Forget about the Hendrix vs. Dylan debate. This jam brings the two together. Time for a second listen...
By the way, what years do you prefer for Ibanez guitars? I love their stuff from the late 90s/early 00s, but in the last few years their necks have sucked and pickups have been worse. Even Ibanez Jems and Universes aren't as good as they were a few years ago. I always wanted an Ibanez 7-string until the quality went way down. Now I play a Carvin 7-string. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Aaron &mdash 05/30/07 - 11:13:59 PM
i usually put some odd twist in the songs. otherwise i might get board. i share my birthday with hendrix, maybe thats where the ballsy comes from ;-)
the ibanez sa, i bought 4 1/2 years ago. i enjoy it. neck on mine is perfect for my hands. i do my own set ups, that always helps. it doesn't have a locking nut or trem. so tuning is a constant issue since i bend alot.
Carvins are nice.
Thanks again for the time.
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Really enjoyed this Vic &mdash 05/30/07 - 09:53:31 PM
Very cool tune man, top to bottom , kinda reminded me of a heavy Midnight Oil, I like this a lot!-Mike [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Mike. &mdash 05/30/07 - 11:24:24 PM
I sometimes feel like a mad scientist putting them together. always thinking of the what ifs. of course there are a lot of little bits that go in. so sometimes when i listen back to the final i'm wondering who did that? just got lucky that sometimes they turn out as planned.
Thanks again Mike. appreciate you giving some time to listen to it.
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Another stormer &mdash 05/31/07 - 12:11:29 AM
love the lyrics on this ... very Zen. Agreat storming chorus on this - it really stuck with me even on first playing. Production and guitars are the usual high standard ... this is a peak even for your standarsd Vic!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Steve &mdash 05/31/07 - 09:48:18 PM
This was sort of a mad hatter tune. even though it doesn't appear to be. and worked one section at a time afetr i had a acoustic track down. so switching instruments constantly. actually had all the music bed done over a weekend. the lyrics came to me pretty quick even though it usually takes me a while to even think of anything.
Thanks again Steve.
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wow &mdash 06/01/07 - 06:12:18 AM
takes me a weekend to do a drum track - my admiration of you grows even further Vic! [ Reply to This ]
- &mdash 06/01/07 - 08:24:12 PM
of course there is a evening or two of twiddling with pans and levels, etc. and another hour or two of adding vocals.
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Fuzz box !! &mdash 05/31/07 - 08:20:27 AM
I realy enjoyin this effect
very much ...just right on
there ...man you realy into
psychodelic rock of the 60s ...
best kind indeed ... Rock On !!
peace ! [ Reply to This ]
thanks Feter &mdash 05/31/07 - 09:52:00 PM
I was most heavily influenced by 60' and early 70's rock the most. It's ther no matter how much i dress it up.
Thanks Feter. take care!
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Whole Package &mdash 05/31/07 - 09:24:14 PM
Everything's beyond great here, but GEEZ that solo smokes.
I love the retro-modern feel and the production is truly professional. I'm listening to this on laptop speakers and it still sounds incredible, better than many professional songs I've heard this way. I love the fade, for obvious reasons, but think it should start earlier, maybe over eight measures.
Awesome!
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Thanks Lisa &mdash 05/31/07 - 09:58:34 PM
I think I was possessed when i built this. I started out with just the intro and by the next day the music tracks where all done. Ya got like it when that happens
Fade out early? but i liked playing that section to much. :-) You're right i should trim it down.
Thanks again Lisa, for taking some time out to listen.
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Come on... &mdash 05/31/07 - 09:38:03 PM
...this is CRYING for Mellotron!
I could swear I hear it in there from time to time.
I love the panned, bright and spangly acoustics at the break just before the guitar solo... The guitar solo is great, too...I certainly hear a certain Dave Davies meets Brian May kind of Vulcan mind meld thing....
I think--and I'm not sure how I'd suggest that you do this--I'd like you to somehow get yourself an additional decibel or two of clarity or presence in the vocals. They are always THERE, and yet I always have the sense that I have to actually PAY ATTENTION to follow the lyric lines... AND THAT COSTS BRAIN CELLS!....
You see what you put me through....
Well. Another good one...
Ed [ Reply to This ]
it cries- &mdash 05/31/07 - 10:09:21 PM
strings. you are close, nice catch. i do have some synth strings in parts. very subtle. i almost took them out but figured what the heck.
At our age we need all the brain cells we can get, I'll try boost it and see how it sounds. usually i'm always bringing them down. could be my headphones and mointors for the way i hear them or more likely i know what they say, thats probably it.
Thanks Ed for the time out to listen
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Refreshing &mdash 05/31/07 - 10:01:00 PM
I enjoy listening to your music because it has it's own originality here on MJ. It usually resembles something I've heard before but it's definitely yours. The intro guitars are outstanding... all the guitars are great... bunches of powerful stuff going on. I like the backward parts as well, very psychedelic. All around cool.
Thanks for sharing. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks John &mdash 05/31/07 - 10:52:42 PM
I tend to think of a song as different parts. Always intriqued by my favorite artists way back when, who would do the same. Must of had more influence on me then I thought. Of course as i get more comfortable with the LE program I find it's easier to get out what's floating around in my head.
Thanks John for the time to listen, Really enjoyed your new revised song you just posted!
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The Rock Never Dies! &mdash 05/31/07 - 10:39:03 PM
Super job again Vic. You are professional in every aspect of your recording. I like the way the lyrics keep approaching the same thing from a different angle so to speak. The "truth will fade away line" is very powerful. To these old bones, the greatest truth ever heard was Paul Simon when he said, "Everything Put Together Sooner Or Later Falls Apart". Thanks Vic for another cool song. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Tom &mdash 05/31/07 - 11:00:50 PM
The title clicked with me when i would read or hear a comment then a opposing point of view or comment would be made or changed. Reminds me a little of the book 1984 where they would change the past news to convenientally fit the present. Scary thing is it happens alot more nowadays then it use to. unless thats been rewritten.
Thanks Tom!
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Guitarstravaganza! &mdash 05/31/07 - 11:11:07 PM
Way to go Vic! Another gem with a great lead and chorus, and excellent production. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Tim &mdash 06/01/07 - 08:17:42 PM
Actually this one came together faster then normal for me. It was one of those weekends that I wish I had all the time. Oh well, back to scratching my head and figuring what goes where.
Thanks again Tim, I'm real glad you liked it.
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Listened a few times now. &mdash 05/31/07 - 11:12:27 PM
Everything about this song is outstanding: lyrics, vocals, music, production, GUITAR GUITAR GUITAR! This song gets better with every hearing. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Dharma &mdash 06/01/07 - 08:20:32 PM
i always hope to create songs that you might hear other things in the mix on different listenings. some are subtle.
Thanks again!
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my old man's &mdash 06/02/07 - 10:26:04 AM
advice to me....thanks for refreshing that bit of wisdom.....well crafted song.......expressive solo....true rockin.......what 'd u use for the backwards efx....? [ Reply to This ]
ain't it the truth &mdash 06/02/07 - 11:55:16 AM
The backwards part. i created in a new file in logic express. played 3 acoustics. and synth strings. you can double click on each region and you get a list of effects including reverse. hit those and bounced the file out as a aiff. imported that into the song. gives a string quartet sound. then i played the 3 harmory guitar lines over that.
Thats McBoy for the time to listen
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Really WOOOOOW!! &mdash 06/02/07 - 04:14:30 PM
WOW .. it's So nice ...
I really liked the lead between the great acoustic playing ..
I don't know What to say .. really I'm speechless ..
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Wish to accept me as a new friend ..
Regardz
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we're all friends here &mdash 06/02/07 - 04:24:25 PM
glad you liked this. I took a quick look at your bio and it's great to have international friends, like you and Feter here. I haven't had a chance to hear yoursongs yet, but i will make it a point to give some a listen
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Not that you need &mdash 06/03/07 - 03:29:25 PM
another comment but great stuff Vic.
Brillaintly put together, good lyrics and once again a wonderfully full production with plenty of twists and turns to keep us interested.
Cheers
Dick
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Thanks Dick &mdash 06/03/07 - 06:46:38 PM
I had to make it a little interesting. Because i was getting board when i only had three chords figured out.
Thanks for the listen Dick.
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Wow!!!! &mdash 06/03/07 - 04:53:36 PM
I wasn't sure what I was looking for, but my friend Bill (SmokeyVW) said I shouldn't be afraid to check out other people's websites - since I don't play I feel as though I'm intruding on Y'all. I just love music. And your picture looked friendly. I listened to this once - then ran downstairs and liberated my sons speakers!!! :-) I'm just blown away by the music, and the lyrics! Sorry, I can't comment on anything technical. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Carole &mdash 06/03/07 - 06:53:41 PM
I'm glad you took a chance to listen. this is a place that i think you can find cool music that doesn't exist in the main stream.
Thanks again for the listen and comment.
Hopefully your son didn't notice his speakers missing. Mine would of had a fit.
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Unworthy &mdash 06/03/07 - 08:22:15 PM
Vic,
After listening to your lead on this song (alone), I feel unworthy to sweep your broken picks off the floor.
Man oh man! (like you needed more evidence that you shred).
What a brilliant tune all around. You're such an inspiration. [ Reply to This ]
you are so lucky that... &mdash 06/03/07 - 08:46:43 PM
i don't break guitar picks.
you might like this. i did used a jellyfish pick on one of the acoustics for the eight note rythm. it has tenacle tines that you strum with. i can only imagine what, with five arms, armed with these would produce.
Thanks for the listen. I'm wondering, if you have 5 arms, do you also have 5 ears? if so we'll have to go surround sound for you. :-)
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don't break guitar picks &mdash 06/04/07 - 07:52:38 PM
That's five EXTRA arms, meaning SEVEN ARMS.
I only have 2 ears - I hear 3/4 as good as 50% of the people in the world, but that's only 20% of the time.
Know what I mean?
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ha &mdash 06/04/07 - 08:44:48 PM
i usually don't remember what anyone tells me 97% of the time. 25% of the time i nod my head. 73 % of the time i say "well there you go." 15% of the time i wish my fingers were 3/8 of a inch longer. I'm talking to myself, huh?
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19% Accurate &mdash 06/05/07 - 12:19:41 AM
I think I hear what you're saying, you're saying that math is something that you slept through in High School. You're saying that when your art teacher was showing you maps of Asia and teaching you Spanish, you thought it would be cool to flick a paper clip across the room and then stare at poor Raymond Childers as if he had done it. You watched him cry as he left the classroom on his way to the principal's office. I know what you're saying. You hate art. I always listen.
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Now if I'm hearing you correctly &mdash 06/05/07 - 09:40:23 PM
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