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Not everyone listens. I listen.
A tune about don't sweat the small stuff and treat the big stuff as small stuff.
Lyrics:
Torn
so i saw it in your eyes
a face that's losing it's grip
and you start to wonder when your heart rolls like thunder
what you thought was yours. gone
ch:
and when you're sorry and sad
i really sympathize
thats when you realize that you are torn
pride comes before a fall
confused on who to call
now you're feeling down 'cause there's no one around
the darkness settles in. goodnight
ch:
and when you're sorry and sad
i really sympathize
thats when you realize that you are torn
with the pressure you're under
don't you stop and wonder
you say where do i go from here? I'm on the other side of the mirror
ch:
and when you're sorry and sad
i really sympathize
thats when you realize that you are torn
i really sympathize
burn away all the misery
wash away all the flames
get back on your feet and walk away through the charred remains
ch:
and when you're sorry and sad
i really sympathize
thats when you realize that you are torn
Hardware:
iMac, epiphone dot deluxe, ibanez EW acoustic, Ibanez SA electric, Ibanez bass, m-audio keyboard & interface. shure 57 mike, Ibanez tube screamer. Digitech GNX 2
Software:
Logic Express
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Vic - at first I thought - &mdash 06/19/07 - 08:38:54 PM
"this a lighter tune for Vic". Thern it got deeper and deeper and richer and richer - but not heavier and heavier - which is really artful on your part. You have the best head for verse/chorus/bridge around here. Always interesting changes and always moving the story along. BTW - your vocals on this are really cool - nice an relaxed. Good lyrics too.
PS - I managed to get here first for a change. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Bud &mdash 06/19/07 - 11:08:31 PM
you probably know i never keep a song light all the way through. I changed out some instruments and the playing on different verses and choruses so there would be a slow build up.
Thanks Bud this is the other faux four tune :-)
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Channeling the Dark Horse &mdash 06/19/07 - 08:43:17 PM
I mean, seriously, do you somehow become possessed by the spirits of dead (and sometimes living) rock stars? It's kind of scary. :)
This is a seriously cool sound, especially the final third of the piece, from the solo section on, it just goes crazy. Excellent lyrics, as usual. I'm just enjoying this one over and over, Vic. [ Reply to This ]
you are probably right &mdash 06/19/07 - 11:14:58 PM
when i get into recording I do feel like something is pulling me through it. I jump from instruments and tracks and leave a big mess in the room. Any guiding spirit leaves immediately when there's the clean up to do.
Thanks Joseph!
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Bloody marvellous! &mdash 06/19/07 - 09:10:58 PM
You sure picked up some stuff from that Beatles songbook Vic, although I hear Blur and Ray Davies.
Lovely guitar harmony work. and excellent vocals. Fantastic structure and chordal stuff happening. So simple but simultaneously, so complex - excellent tune and lyrically strong.
Neil
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The songbook &mdash 06/19/07 - 11:42:44 PM
easy play of course is what i used to learned to play guitar all those years ago. The chords are the basics. Adding on the harmony and counter stuff is always fun to see how it comes out. A little complex if it was all tabbed. But the challenge is what makes all the more fun!
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As always, it's great to &mdash 06/19/07 - 09:58:16 PM
hear your voice. Another great vocal performance. Reminds of later Dylan. The guitar work here is also great - subtle, sweet playing that allows the vocal to lead, but flavors the whole song. I like the sentiment of the song, and there are some great lyrics - "burn away all the misery, wash away all the flames, get back on your feet and walk away through the charred remains" is an outstanding lyric. Powerful imagery that just pulls you in. Also love the backing vocals. If I had any nit to pick, it would be that the song seems to start too suddenly as if part of the opening bar had been cut off? But that's a minor quibble. This is a nice song, and, as ever, very well executed. Nice work. Peace. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks David &mdash 06/19/07 - 11:50:35 PM
This took me a bit to get the vocals halfway decent.
I was thinking the same on the intro after I had this done. a short drum intro would of been nice. but shifting all the pans and levels with tracks was going to take quite a while. Some rainy weekend I'll take the time to adjust for that
Thanks again David. great new song of yours, BTW.
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Very nice! &mdash 06/19/07 - 10:33:59 PM
I like this one, Vic. The mix sounds fantastic! The only thing I noticed was that the song seems to be clipped at the intro. Maybe it's just me :) [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Mike &mdash 06/20/07 - 12:01:04 AM
This is one of my fav's for a mix as well. Clipping. more than likely the semi-hallow body electric through the tube screamer can have a hard sound. could bring it down a tad to soften the attack. I notice on a some of others songs, they start off with a clipping sound on loading up. Who knows.
Thanks again Mike, have you been practicing the piano?
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the kinks &mdash 06/19/07 - 10:46:50 PM
thats who comes to mind, but in a modern way, you have a very good production and musical structure that sounds very professional and ur art werk is always amusing.....your lyrics are always controversial in a thinking way.......there should be a challenge ex: LIOLI, were music is put to lyrics using loops or instruments and you would be the first to write lyrics, you do write lyrics good or maybe just write a song and I'll sing....BlueSky [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Vincent &mdash 06/20/07 - 12:10:16 AM
I like your idea of the contest idea. I always write the lyrics last and that's the hardest part for me. The music part a whole lot easier. I do show my roots, very true.
Thanks again for sharing your time!
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Busy boy, busy boy... &mdash 06/19/07 - 11:11:45 PM
As per jgurner... you are channeling big time echoes of rock songs past... nothing specific (although... insert Beatle reference), just that... I've got a feeling, that... this song so captures a sound that I love and harkens back to, what in my way of thinking, was the golden age of rock music. Take a bow, dear boy. And do continue to let it be and don't let me down... because... although you are not the walrus... nor the fool on the hill... your music makes me feel fine... OK, it's not a revolution... just that your music reminds me of yesterday... can someone give me some Help here??
cheers [ Reply to This ]
He's so heavy &mdash 06/19/07 - 11:31:02 PM
funny comment. I knew it would have to come up. I did go with flow turned off my mind and floated downstream. the decending part was a nod to the walrus and the ending another nod to the end of a day in the life. just enough so some might get it.
Thanks Jack looking forward to Last Sail
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ha ha! &mdash 06/20/07 - 02:44:06 AM
Jack old man, you've finally lost it! Welcome to the club!
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thoughts from the bull... &mdash 06/19/07 - 11:44:29 PM
jeez louise! this is so incredibly well assembled and played out!
i could compare with many flavors, but i prefer this one right in your arsenal! boy, you really got me with this one! right from the start through to the finish! so well done!
thoroughly enjoyed this smart, pop sensible rocker! thank you, Vic!! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks B.T.B. &mdash 06/20/07 - 12:16:47 AM
I really enjoy the production work as much as playing. Always interesting to see how a song can alter from the original concept. I never know how it ends myself until I get there.
Thanks for taking the time out to listen. I really appreciate it.
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wow !! &mdash 06/20/07 - 12:17:50 AM
hey vic !! verrrrry cool, i think i could expect to hear this on 'rubber soul' or somthin like that !! i truly enjoyed [ Reply to This ]
thanks Rob &mdash 06/20/07 - 09:20:16 PM
Yeah a conscience effort to put a big influence intto this.
Thanks for the listen appreciate it!
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Damn! &mdash 06/20/07 - 02:42:59 AM
First of all: Your best mix ever. Second: Your best Chorus ever. This grabbed me by the jewels and didn't let go till the last note faded away. I'll be walking funny for a week...(I gotta start wearin a cup!).
Good insightful lyrics. Great vocal delivery (again, especially in the chorus!). Guitar work over the top as per usual. I too, thought the beginning a tad "clipped." It's the only nit. And barely one at that...
Be well bro! [ Reply to This ]
The family jewels &mdash 06/20/07 - 09:29:39 PM
Thanks bro! I figured if i was going to do a beatlish lennon type of thing i shouls also stay true with the lyric style.
True, i need to bring the intro guitar done. it really has a strong attack. Always listen to two Mikes.
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A winner once again &mdash 06/20/07 - 03:18:57 AM
Quite a catalogue you have Vic.
What always stands out is the work you put into your arrangements.
There is always something different to look forward to and I love the unexpected changes and bridges and this has it all.
Excellent work :-)
Cheers
Dick [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Dick &mdash 06/20/07 - 09:33:50 PM
I decided to calm down a bit on this one. But i did want to add the extra dimensions. that's where the fun comes in.
Good luck on your opera piece. hopefully what i sent is useable
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A touch of........ &mdash 06/20/07 - 04:22:40 AM
A touch of Bowie on guitar at the beginning. You've got that Petty/Harrison going on this one. Strong lyrics, as usual. Love the musical break.
I will rate you: Prod. 9.01
Writing 9.05
Orig. 9.07
Overall 9.05
You have been rated!
LL [ Reply to This ]
Thanks David &mdash 06/20/07 - 09:38:50 PM
True another beatlish/pettyish kinda thing. I usually try to do one once in a while.
Really enjoyed your new tune. Take care David
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Wow... &mdash 06/20/07 - 05:08:19 AM
What a clean mix..... Dig it and keep an X of it.... right down to my iPod.
Hey! Vic, you sounds super nice wox with good lyrics...... Cheers [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Skean &mdash 06/20/07 - 09:43:15 PM
I wanted the mix to be open as much as possible where it could. Always learn something new at mixing. The vocals where the toughest for me. I still would like to get them a bit better.
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Big V.H. Fan Here! &mdash 06/20/07 - 08:28:37 AM
Its always a pleasure to hear a new tune from one of my favorite rock stars on MJ, really digging this this steady driven song with excellent and honest lyrics, I like the magic that you do, its always enthralling! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Tom &mdash 06/21/07 - 12:14:14 AM
I kinda purposley did this in a Lennon vein. So I thought to keep it true that the lyrics had to be a somewhat of a personal observation.
Thanks Tom. Do you draw your avatars? well, except the deranged guy.
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Melodic power &mdash 06/20/07 - 02:18:21 PM
Lovely range of different guitar sounds! Great song with lots of oomph. [ Reply to This ]
Thank You Very Much &mdash 06/21/07 - 12:17:52 AM
I try to contrast all the guitars unless I'm doubling. The instrumental parts contained quite a few guitars with different effects and amp settings.
Thanks for taking the time to listen, I appreciate it!
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Hey Vic &mdash 06/20/07 - 07:36:29 PM
I really like your style of music. It reminds me of the best of the type of rock music that I like, not too heavy, tuneful, good lyrics, nice clear vocals. Makes my ears open up and grin! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Tom &mdash 06/21/07 - 12:26:05 AM
you're right it is alot like a certain time of music i enjoyed as well. Since there was no way to play with them, you can only emulate. I am pretty happy I got lucky that it turned out half way decent.
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Another direction &mdash 06/20/07 - 07:59:40 PM
but still its you Vic! your singing is at it best on this no strain no pain its perfect I think! thats it your goin your way to stardom and never shall we hear the Vic we know and love ... dont leave us! just kiddin your music is so good it makes me talk crazy tonto!! [ Reply to This ]
ha &mdash 06/21/07 - 12:30:07 AM
I totally lack direction. I never know where I'm going or how it's going to end.
Hopefully we'll be around here into our eightie's talking about the good ole days. heck, no one every really listens to me anyway.
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Very Nice &mdash 06/21/07 - 09:58:44 AM
Mr. Vic .. very cool .. i've heard this 2 times ..
Very good tune .. your vocal was very nice to hear ..
I liked it and enjoyed it .. your mixing in this one is great .. Thanks for posting ..
by the way : are these your drawings ?? because i've found that all of your songs has the same picture style .. it's very nice ..
Juan Serrano : http://www.macjams.com/song/32635
Regardz
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Thanks Yeman &mdash 06/21/07 - 09:05:58 PM
I'm glad you liked it.
I have some retro line art cd's. I bring those into photoshop, modify them and add color, the bubbles and text. Takes around ten minutes to make one. When I run out of those then I'll have to display my own originals.
Thanks again Yeman.
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Torn &mdash 06/21/07 - 10:35:13 AM
now this is a special tone you produced here
cool words ... the changes realy givining me
the atmosphere of the psycho delic rock of
the 60s ...amazing ....the singing the guitar
work ...very very much creative my friend ..
well done !! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Feter &mdash 06/21/07 - 09:09:40 PM
At the heart of this song is a classic rock style. Just brought up to date.
Or as the sayin goes---what goes around, comes around.
Thanks again Feter. I appreciate you giving it a listen.
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What &mdash 06/21/07 - 01:36:14 PM
an excellent production - Your voice sounds incredibly close on the verses - it really makes you sit up and listen. I always like the way you position the instruments in your mixes - and this could be your best yet - the acoustics sound fab. The only nit (which has been mentioned is the abrupt start - justs sounds like there's a tiny bit missing).
Great build up. Very nicely done.
Peter [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Peter &mdash 06/21/07 - 09:20:15 PM
I recently discovered the energizer plug-in and added that to the vocals.
The acoustics i used a jellyfish pick (has a row of tines) giving it a bit of a twelve string effect, it's not very good on picking, not enough attack to it.
I agree about the start. I believe I got to use to it. Isn't that the way it always is.
Thanks again Peter!
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acoustic!!! &mdash 06/22/07 - 11:26:27 AM
Another holman tune, another Holman classic. Intro has the power of 'All the Young dudes'. A feckin' great sleazy vocal on this Vic, really screamin great rough 'n' ready vocals. The production on this is stonkin', but overall I just love the feel and the tricky little changes.
Every one you bring out is better than the last ... another belter. the solo/break is a drug-fuelled epic in its own right.
Steve [ Reply to This ]
gotta race some cat to bed &mdash 06/22/07 - 09:00:09 PM
Thanks Steve! Hoople intro. i hadn't thought of that. A lot of classic rock with some updating was the way i looked at it. I think i could make the vocals a bit more sleazier! Ha. I think I can do better at them. Plus a few other suggestions could help this be a tad better. You know how it goes, when do I stop fitzing?
Thanks Steve!
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Now, where did I put that lighter?... :-) &mdash 06/22/07 - 07:34:25 PM
Torch Song perhaps?! (I hope it becomes your own personal bonfire!!! :-)) I detect a change from "minor" to "major" (I'm Lovin' this!!!)
Love the "hooks" in your lyrics! You write them last? Wow!!!
My favorites are, "a face that's lost it's grip" , "the darkness settles in. goodnight." , "you say, where do I go from here? I'm on the other side of the mirror. (really paints a masterpiece in my mind!), "burn away all the misery - wash away all the flames (the slight oxymoron/ reversal is very provocative!!!), and "get back on your feet again (a cliche - until you add!!!) "and walk away through the charred remains." (I am blown away!!!! [You're Doin' It Again!! ref. recent note I sent you.])
Beatles, Kinks, Bowie, Petty - it's all Vic :-)!!! My favorite Petty song is "Learning To Fly" (but I already got the wings!!!)
Your voice is getting stronger - more confident! Very sexy!!! Isn't it phenomenal what the "Birds&the Bees" can conjure up in the human psyche?!!! This song makes me wanna move on down the alphabet a notch, and change my address to a less clement climate!!! :-) Well, you said..... :-) [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Carole! &mdash 06/22/07 - 09:12:18 PM
I tend to be a good listener. At least that's what everyone told me. I never have real solutions, who ever does,.
I write the lyrics last, these kept getting rewrittten even as i tried to put the vocals down. For some reason I kept thinking of "Hey Jude" lyrically about the real message of that song. So I tend to think I had put another spin on it.
It's always best to stay optimistic, no matter what. At least in my opinion. It's alot like I wrote in the song info.
Thanks again Carole.
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You deserve better than... &mdash 06/22/07 - 10:10:01 PM
to be a good listener! You deserve the true happiness and bliss of Nirvana! (I love Nirvana - the concept and the band - what a F___ing waste of true talent.) One VA woman's opinion. (although virgin was torn from me sometime ago.) [ Reply to This ]
Oops! &mdash 06/23/07 - 12:38:02 PM
Better qualify this, although, song writer's should recognize a metaphor when they see one. :-) By virgin, I meant those times throughout life when...a quote..."We don't see things as they are; we see them as we are." - Anais Nin, then comes the metaphorical 2X4, and innocence lost, which with introspection over time becomes grist for the mill of creation. "We write [lyrics] to taste life twice; in the moment, and in retrospection." - Anais Nin
Happiness is a choice! :-) [ Reply to This ]
very well said Carole &mdash 06/23/07 - 02:05:31 PM
Nirvana comes only once. probably that first candy bar as a kid or a hot day at the lake drinking a beer, even if it's warm. The band was great also yet short lived.
We all lost the virginity finding out Santa Claus and the easter bunny didn't exist.
Santa Claus and the easter bunny stole my viginity. See there's a song there :-)
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LOL!!! I dare you!!! &mdash 06/24/07 - 01:34:46 AM
to compose some really freaky mix of holiday "toons", and I dare you to utterly MOVE me with said lyrics!!!, and I double dog dare you to POST IT! I'm trying to catch my breath here! LOL!!! LIOLI, Babe!!! LOL!!! [ Reply to This ]
-- &mdash 06/24/07 - 02:27:38 PM
would be kinda funny. remains to be seen, quite aways from the holidays.
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more like burned perhaps &mdash 06/22/07 - 09:11:35 PM
nice guitar intro!
i got rather confused about who the "i" and the "you" are - perhaps one in the same? if so, cool!
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Thanks Bill &mdash 06/22/07 - 09:34:59 PM
It's kind of thinny veiled as a two way conversation, "I" repeating the other person. But, now that you mention it. it could be percieved as a dual conversation of the mind. Not that I have a dual personality mind you :-). Though sometimes I wish I had, I might get twice as many things done.
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From a new discoverer &mdash 06/23/07 - 05:18:23 AM
Hi Vic. I am a new discoverer of your music. I am again enjoyed over hearing your confident and highly original style. Dig it a lot. As the few other of your songs I've heard so far, this one one that stands out for its composition and originality. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Cori &mdash 06/23/07 - 02:09:25 PM
I try to think composition first. Most of this is pretty basic chords. but that usually works for the best. the instrumental parts where a bit more complicated. But it's always fun to dig in there on those.
Thanks again Cori for taking some time out to listen!
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Agree with Steve, &mdash 06/24/07 - 08:49:58 AM
All the Young Dudes-esque to start, quickly into psychedelic changes, singing is steeped in the '70s. Dare I say the Beatles on a good day?
Love the first big guitar break, sounds like an LSD induced meltdown!
Superb!
Now where did I leave those Freak Brothers comix???
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thanks much &mdash 06/24/07 - 02:31:17 PM
all true, i confess. I inteded to do this as a beatleish/solo lennon kind of thing. naturally you can't get away without doing some psychedelia thrown in the mix.
Thanks for the time out to listen. Appreciated
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You have &mdash 06/24/07 - 12:09:57 PM
that interesting uniqueness to the sound of your voice that I like ... I'm lame at making comments these days ... just wanted you to know I stopped by! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Alannah &mdash 06/24/07 - 05:22:06 PM
Just knowing you heard it is more then words
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Cool melody! &mdash 06/25/07 - 03:38:00 PM
Thanks Doug &mdash 06/25/07 - 10:23:57 PM
my mind keeps going through them changes. I usually tend to mix it up some. Keeps the ears on the guard
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oh yeah &mdash 06/30/07 - 05:55:12 PM
this has an excellent edgyness to it, vic.
love the bizarre melody!
the guitar flourishes at verse 3 were so tasty, and the climb at the end wonderfully wild. this is so unexpected, yet makes such perfect sense.
cool creativity in the music you make! anne
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thanks Anne &mdash 07/01/07 - 12:02:25 AM
I'm a pretty mellow guy who does edgy.
No matter what I try to do there is awlays that 60' influence. the end was a nod to the ending of a day in the life.
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Oh, those guitars... &mdash 06/30/07 - 08:11:24 PM
I was recently listening to one of my Klaatu albums (great but obscure Canadian group, 1975-1982) and I heard touches of Vic Holman guitars! Was I mad?
Probably. Another excellent ride, Vic. Surreal and seemingly relaxed, but there's a lot going on where you're not looking. And your vocals just keep sounding great! [ Reply to This ]
i know what you mean &mdash 07/01/07 - 12:04:48 AM
there is a simularity to there stuff and a bit of mine as well now that you mention it.
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I really like this too!! &mdash 07/01/07 - 04:01:51 AM
thanks! &mdash 07/01/07 - 01:11:30 PM
i try to give songs a few twist and turns. its like putting together a large jigsaw puzzle
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Cool song! &mdash 07/08/07 - 01:33:28 PM
This has everything in it that's missing from most current popular rock stuff that I hear.Namely creativity and originality.You took your influences and made something great! [ Reply to This ]
thanks Mark &mdash 07/08/07 - 09:10:33 PM
I agree with what you say. i believe that's what got me interested in recording and figuring out production.
Welcome to MJ's, I really enjoyed your tunes!
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