I don't much like the 80s-sounding synth that appears near the beginning and periodically throughout the song. the beat does need some... eh... tweaking. parts of it are too loud and it doesnt "flow" at times (what a thing to say about beat huh?)

Your vocals are great, as are the lyrics!

I'd recommend asking biba_nova for remixes/advice...

for *lead* female vocals, ask Arin or onesweetworld to give it a shot... some of the prettiest voices around! fairymagic17 and SlimGirlFat are great with harmonies.

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...I LOVE that 80's sounding synth! I was looking for a synth that sounded very - well - synthy, and eventually used this one which is 'Arena Run'. I think I quite like the cheesiness of it:-))

I'm not entirely sure what I *don't* like about the mix (if that makes any sense?). I think it flows Ok, but maybe sounds a bit crude in places e.g. the rattly snare drum that leads into the chorus? In my mind I want it to sound like Madonna when she was produced by William Orbit (similar sort of mood, atmosphere etc), and hence why I would like to hear a female vox.

Really appreciate you dropping a few potential names, I will check them out and get in touch. Thanks again, Phil

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CJ's recommendations are good (I'd already downloaded and started working on the track before she posted here). See my reply to your forum post.

I might also suggest that Alimar would be fabulous to contact re: a remix, if he has time and interest.
Prog is one of his specialties!

Really nice track. I like how it flows, and the synths don't bother me, because of the prog nature of the track, I suppose.
I had fun improvising to it :)



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...for the comments.

I've just had a quick listen to some of your stuff (will go back and spend some more time there soon) and am intrigued how your voice might sound on this song.

I will drop you a 'note' with contact details. Many thanks for getting in touch

Phil

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Your voice goes well with the song.
The song does have a bit of a New Zealand or Australian vibe for some reason, even without knowing the inspiration for the tune. (maybe the tempo or chord progression?).
Also, there is something about the way the guitar sounds in the chorus section that sounds too lo-fi.
I would try the chorus section guitar part on an acoustic guitar, instead of electric because it sounds too fuzzy (distorted). This would give it a more updated sound.
The tune gives me a 90's alt-vibe during the chorus. (If that is what you are aiming for, then please disregard my previous suggestion).
Finally, the vocals should be projected more (loudly) in the chorus to give it some dynamic from the verses. (to make it more anthemic sounding)
By the way, love the "prog-out" synth at the end.
Cheers!


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...thanks for taking the time to really listen to the track.

I aggree that there is definitely some NZ or Aussie vibe about this. I suppose you can't help but be influenced by your surroundings when you're in amongst it. I'm glad the atmosphere comes accross.

The distorted guitar in the chorus is my complete inability to reject the influence of Neil Young in almost all my songs. I would like to try a more accoustic guitar in these parts, but so far heven't been able to get a decent recording of my accoustic - so hence the fuzz. I'll keep trying:-))

Glad you like the prog-out at the end - too many YES albums as a kid. Cheers, Phil

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Hey Phil - real change from the previous work you've posted, and a nice groove to this. I agree with CJ about the synth, it isn't a great sound. Your vocal is great, really like how you nail the low notes, but yeah, I could hear female vox in the chorus.

The beats used sound OK to me, tho' the volume does vary throughout. The mix needs a bit of work in terms of clarity and levels, but nothing major. I'd offer to get involved in this, but you'd be waiting months, and I'[m not great on mixing. Great track, will be aces when it gets a bit of polish.

Steve

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Appreciate the comments again Steve.

Yes this is a total change - and really is a one off! I can see my synth choice causing a few ructions - but I'm sticking to my guns!

You've hit the nail on the head with regard to the drums though. Like I mentioned in the reply to CJ, I really want the space/dynamics/atmosphere that someone like William Orbit can create. Mind you he's probaly got a bit more gear than me and a decent microphone:-))

If you listen closely in the chorus's there are some female vocals - but it's just my voice through that vocal transformer effect - hence why I need a real person.

Ta again

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textured and lush... you employ several elements to move this along... and it flows... It really doesn't come across as a dance anthem.. it's more of a journey... you keep it interesting through out with all the different instruments/elements fading in and out...

very good and compelling.. intersesting the sense of urgency that this invokes

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Been listening to a fair bit of your stuff recently Scott, so glad you could drop by.

I like to musical journey idea (again too many YES albums!), I suppose that can happen in a long track like this. Like others have mentioned I think it's jsut some minor changes in dynamics rather than song structure, and this could begin to sound quite polished.

Glad you enjoyed the track.

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There is no such thing as "too many Yes albums" I'm almost certain...

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...agreed!

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what a groovy track. I love the synth work, progression and most of all your voice. The end rocks.

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arrangement as it is. The sounds you've created are great along with the subject, M

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Agree with cjhoose on the synth at the beginning or should I say loop. Just been used so many times before. Still good solid song though.

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