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Just to make sure I wasn't going soft. This is a fast and hard rock tune.
Lyrics are pretty obvious at making a jab at the "certain elite" that seem to wear teflon suits and ear muffs.
Lyrics:
Lost Boys
1
an open letter
to the lost boys
they the burn words
to silence the stories
lost boys don't read anymore
do you see the signs
could you read there minds
is it the sign of the times
can they see the writing
on the wall
but they ignore the phone calls
chorus:
don't believe in the lost boys
divided they stand
don't believe in the lost boys
united they fall
2
you have a freedom
as long as you pay
but be careful
of what you want
political savants take what you got
best you worry
we install fear
you are protected here
we take the measures
go to great lengths
or bad boys will enforce the fear
chorus:
don't believe in the lost boys
divided they stand
don't believe in the lost boys
united they fall
3
protecting there own
a tight knit clan
evangelistic hair
makes the man
no one goes down united they stand
did the stories change
for monetary gains
somebody better explain
see the writing
on the wall
lost boys deny it all.
chorus:
don't believe in the lost boys
divided they stand
don't believe in the lost boys
united they fall
dont' believe in the lost boys (x3)
Hardware:
iMac. Ibanez SA electric & bass, Epiphone DOT Deluxe, Ibanez EW acoustic, Digitech GNX2 pedal board, Ibanez Tube Screamer, BBE Sonic Stomp, M-audio keyboard and interface, shure 57 mike.
Software:
Logic Express
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Im not worthy &mdash 07/20/07 - 08:45:36 PM
Love the guitar that is between the stanzas and chorus! then the almost led zeppelin sounding slow part.. your leading is outstanding. I love your sound so clear another one for the Ipod!!!!!!!!!!! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks E.B. &mdash 07/20/07 - 09:17:54 PM
The slow part. I thought it would be cool to throw in something at half the speed and get a little bluesy. I was trying to think who it reminded me a little of. maybe Led Zep is right.
Thanks again. I liked your new rosebud tune!
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Even though you have a sound... &mdash 07/20/07 - 08:48:22 PM
...an established sound, and a good sound...
I keep hearing refinement every time I hear that sound again...
I may be wrong--in fact, with your stuff, I think I'm MOSTLY wrong--but it sounds like you're getting the same multi-guitar sound with fewer guitars... it still sounds full, jangly, and every other thing it has to be, and yet it has some degree of simplicity to my ears...
I was disappointed at the speed of the final fade, as that outro lead break sounded fiery cool...
Are you still going to tell me there are no effects on the voice?
And really--no embedded graphic element? I have come to expect a certain level of quality, Vic...
Y'know sometimes I just sit here listening to one of your songs trying to imagine what you've concocted in your various signal chains to get the blend and the mix that you come up with... Mostly I give up... but it's fun...
Ed [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Ed &mdash 07/20/07 - 09:29:42 PM
I'm still learning the software and probably always will. You can spend quite a few evenings just tweeking the levels and pans and other perameters.
I only use the compression & noise gate on my vocals, and maybe a small bit of reverb......and that shiny green button that says do not touch (kidding, about the green button, it's red)
True a bulk of the song is fairly basic chords, it's just the stuff that goes off from there. Signal wise, i use a fender twin amp model, BBE Sonic Stomp and ibanez tube screamer. Some parts have a marshall stack simulator. Some parts i use once in a while is the volume pedal with long delays.
Since i bounce the track straight from Logic it doesn't have a image tag. Actually I didn't even realize i could tag the other stuff until a few weeks ago.
Thanks again Ed!
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Electric! &mdash 07/20/07 - 09:42:46 PM
I feel like such a groupie, the energy here kicks total ass, That break is exquisite it allows the listener to cath the breath then solo gets it all back in gear, this is no haolds barred V.H.!!!! rip it up Vic! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Tom &mdash 07/21/07 - 06:45:32 PM
Heck, I get all giddy like a school girl when you release a tune.
It has been a while since I did a fast. The downside is I sprained my index finger near the end of this.
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Lost Boys &mdash 07/21/07 - 03:29:01 AM
this is a suburb work ..I m hearing amazing
guitar work , real sence of classic rock
wish "wear teflon suits and ear muffs" done that
your voice is so diffrent here the taste you
gave with your singing here is like old Status Quo
just a blast ..the acoustic Ibanez in the middle
was a real charm break down ..Kudos my friend !!! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Feter &mdash 07/21/07 - 06:53:31 PM
Go's to show use older guys can still rock!
Yeah my voice sounds a bit different, but then I had to do it louder to overcome the rest of the music.
The acoustic section was actually going to be the original song, But I though about rocking it out a bit.
Thanks again Feter
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Turn that chorus up! &mdash 07/21/07 - 09:37:31 AM
Great tune Vic - I so love the guitars on this Vic - they have a real chrusy/jangley 80's quality to them which is right up my street, but then you mix the acoutsic in sooo well with them. The slow-down works a treat, just before we're hit with that scorchin' solo.
You don't sound lost at all ... this gets better and better as the track goes on! Wat to say - another cracking Holman guitar epic ... how can one man have so many great tunes in him???
steve [ Reply to This ]
Hi Steve &mdash 07/21/07 - 07:04:45 PM
I had to do this whole thing in brief parts. Our daily tempertures was so hot. my recording room upstairs was like a sauna. The guitar strings would go out of tune so fast. Originally i was doing lyrics about the tabloid stories at the store checkout stands. Bat Boy turned into lost boys.
Usually when I start thinking about a new song, i realize I've got nothing. Luckily something comes to mind. so far. I fit comes to that point then it's guitar for hire. well II would do that anyway.
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Rock ??? .. ROCK ON ROCK .. PERFECT &mdash 07/21/07 - 01:34:33 PM
Mr. Vic .. i swear that i've checked your page 3 times yesterday .. and didn't find anything ..
And surprisingly i opened Mr. Mikey Wark page and see his favorite songs .. and saw the LOST BOYS by Vic Holman was there .. OMG !!
Please if you have time .. send me a message to let me know that you post new GREAT song ..
But it's ok for me coz i'm not really late .. !!!
For the song .. it's great as usual ..
The singing fits the melody and nice to hear these great words by your vocal ..
This is so Rock .. so please .. ROCK ON ROCK ..
More than great one ..
I'm always enjoying hearing these songs ..
but till now FOREVER YESTERDAY is the best ..
This one is much enjoyable ..
Keep up the great work .. and take care
Regardz
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Yeman Auf Al-Rawi [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Yeman &mdash 07/21/07 - 08:10:50 PM
Goes to show your never to old to rock.
I'm sure someday we will hear a cool fast rock tune from you. That should be cool.
Sure, I'll try to remember to send you a note when I post any song
Thanks again Yeman
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& they'll us down with 'em if they can &mdash 07/21/07 - 03:27:14 PM
are you sure you're not Tom Petty hiding out here at MacJams?
wowee that break in the pace is dynamite - perfect
thank you sir [ Reply to This ]
I'm Petty sure..... &mdash 07/21/07 - 08:16:24 PM
That I'm not Tom Petty. I still have to go to work in the mornings. But if he ever needs a stand-in and the pay is good.
You know these lost boys, it's that blank stare. The middle slow section was actually going to be the basis of the song.
Thanks Bill
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What blows me away Vic is &mdash 07/21/07 - 04:36:07 PM
the hotter your music gets the smarter it gets too. I tend to turn into a neanderthal when I pile on the guitars and amp up the pace. Excellent break as others have noted and great lyrics and vocals too. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Bud &mdash 07/21/07 - 08:33:19 PM
I spread out recording this over 2 weeks. So it gave me some time to think of where to go with it. I had to trim out quite a few things when it would get to thick. The hardest part was figuring out any lyrics. The one saving grace for me was I was able to sing the song all the way through in one pass. I don't know how singers can do so many songs live in a row
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All for none &mdash 07/21/07 - 10:14:51 PM
and none for all! "Don't believe in the lost boys"
Very cool. Great talent! [ Reply to This ]
thanks Doug &mdash 07/22/07 - 01:34:15 PM
You can't avoid these lost boys they're spending your money faster then one can blow there nose. And none of them will spend any jail time. What a world
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Hey Vic... &mdash 07/22/07 - 09:35:57 AM
....big and authentic sound here. Such neat production too. I must get a Mac too compete with you and Jig, I swear. [ Reply to This ]
Hi Dennis &mdash 07/22/07 - 01:43:34 PM
I'm busting a nut just to keep up with everyone else. Be sure to get Logic Express as well. It has a learning curve, but it pays off once it clicks.
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I second that &mdash 07/22/07 - 02:42:54 PM
waves lighter/candle back n forth..... &mdash 07/22/07 - 09:47:11 AM
while rocking out.......tasty guitar interlude/solo in the middle.....u convinced me....won't believe a word those lost boys say.....! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Mcboy &mdash 07/22/07 - 01:47:16 PM
yeah, don't trust them. Especially, if a certain one of them invites you to go hunting. He won't wait to see the white of your eyes.
Thanks again for the listen.
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Loving this again &mdash 07/22/07 - 11:20:07 AM
What a great song, its takes multiple listens to fully absorb, something about a V.H. chorus...just superb! [ Reply to This ]
Cool Tom &mdash 07/22/07 - 01:53:42 PM
there are a lot of layers to peel back. since it goes pretty quick it probably does take a few listens. I'm glad you took it around the block for another spin.
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You are a diverse fellow, I must say! &mdash 07/22/07 - 01:42:28 PM
This sounds like something I would have heard on MTV back in the 80's, that is when MTV rocked! Nice job my friend. Hey "Tom Petty of MJ's," need a new heart breaker? Awesome all the way around. I got one in the oven! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Alvin &mdash 07/22/07 - 01:57:56 PM
Yeah early mtv was a great time for some cool songs. reality shows? please.
I'll keep a eye out for your new tune.
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Nope...NOT "going soft"! &mdash 07/22/07 - 01:57:49 PM
Nice 80's rock feel here Vic...Love the transition from the verse to that outstanding chorus! Great git-chops as per usual. Your bass playing is exceptionally nice here as well! Oh yeah...just got to the slow section...very nice...and then we're BACK!!! Two thumbs up on the arrangement Vic. My one and only nit is that I thought the fade was too fast at the end. I'd have gone for a more gradual descent with your magnificent leads slowly soaring off into the distance! But's that's just me!
Rock on Vicar! [ Reply to This ]
soft should only apply to bathroom tissue &mdash 07/22/07 - 02:06:24 PM
the slower part was going to be the basis of this song originally. But I felt I needed to belt one out.
Originally there was going to be no guitar solo at the end. that was just a last minute thing and i didn't have much space left. To bad I felt i was just warming up then hit the dreaded end marker
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outstanding! &mdash 07/22/07 - 01:59:17 PM
i think is one my favs by you.
great feel! a realy sense of energy!
just a solid, driving rock tune! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Jason &mdash 07/22/07 - 02:12:59 PM
I realized I haven't done a fast rocker in quite a while. This was a fun one to do. It really got my energy level up as well.
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Hey! Vic &mdash 07/22/07 - 02:15:28 PM
your play's a wow.
Love it.... Thanks for this great upload.
Take care
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Thanks Kenta &mdash 07/22/07 - 02:41:11 PM
I figured it's summer. and no summer is complete without a fast rock tune.
Thanks for the listen!
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Classic VH &mdash 07/22/07 - 02:40:41 PM
your VH-1 in my book... here is a high compliment.... as I'm listening here... this piece is remenicent of Jeff Lynn's producing.. you have melded several elements to create a whole... the mix is stellar... the way it kicks into the chorus... with the dual guitar line.. and that steam-like percusion... It really launches the chorus... i'm not sure how you did it... really brilliant
passionate vocals... tops all around [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Scott &mdash 07/22/07 - 02:51:10 PM
At times i break everything down into small pieces. Could very well be from listening to bands like ELO and some of the older prog rocker type of stuff.
The drums I played on the keyboard. It kind of keeps it more of a live feel.
Vocally I got this in one pass. Lucked out there. Otherwise I would of had to wait another day to attempt it again.
BTW hope your feeling better.
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I am not the norm, But I am Norm &mdash 07/22/07 - 02:43:00 PM
There are so many cool layers to your music that it is hard to take them all in with one listen..... So on this one I just listened to the sum of the parts and appreciated the piece as a whole. This is very good.
Guitar playing on this is excellent and melody is very strong.
Very powerful musical statement! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Norm &mdash 07/22/07 - 03:08:36 PM
I'm glad you are not the norm. just listened to your new song, excellent.
At times I like to create something that adds to each listening. So I'm glad it works on both levels. Sum of all parts and the little things
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Sounds Great! &mdash 07/22/07 - 05:30:30 PM
I'm trying to get caught up on all of the tunes I have waiting and I picked yours first. I'm glad I did, but I wouldn't have expected anything less from you anyway :P
Nice tune- I enjoyed it, Vic! [ Reply to This ]
uh oh &mdash 07/22/07 - 10:58:37 PM
pressure!
Thanks Mike. It was time to crank out a summer rocker. Although i should of had these lost boys frollicking in the sand playing volloeyball.
BTW finished with all that shrimp yet?
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Better each time. &mdash 07/22/07 - 07:00:02 PM
Better late than never Vic - sorry for the delay. Like Mike D, I'm on catchup.
The quality of your production seems to be getting better with each new post. This has hints of Traffic and Ray Davies to me, although that's only meant as a marker, not an accusation ;) The clarity you're getting with Logic is an impressive demonstration of its capabilities. A fine post! Now, I want to hear the full tabloid story on "Bat Boys".
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Your not late &mdash 07/22/07 - 11:12:32 PM
Only posted this Friday night.
Thanks Neil. those are always good benchmarks. Always appreciated Traffic.
It's nice when you can adjust all the plug-in parameters throughout the song tracks. Especially on the high pass and low cut filters.
Bat Boy was one of those front page stories I think on Enquire. He would be captured only to escape and run rampant. Then he would be found again and escape. But to do a song he would also have to go on a diet and lose 10 pounds over the weekend, associate with zombies, predict the future, be adopted by Madonna, and get wisked away by a UFO.
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Wow Vic!!!! &mdash 07/23/07 - 03:46:54 PM
Odd I replied yesterday &mdash 07/24/07 - 08:29:32 PM
and it's not here.
Anyway, thanks much Carole.
If I remember I think I had previously said rockin out is fun but I have yet to do a heavy metal, mostly due to the fact I can't get those high pitched screams.
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Catching up.... &mdash 07/24/07 - 03:33:38 AM
All the normal VH attributes are in place.
An amazing wash of sound. Always a lot going on in your mixes and there's never a dull moment.
Some intriguing lyrics... "evangelistic hair". No idea what it is but it's a great image!
Cheers
Dick
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Thanks Dick. &mdash 07/24/07 - 08:34:03 PM
I like the 3 for 1 idea. get a bunch of stuff going. Could be a cross over from work where I multi-task to much.
The hair.....those tv evangelist's. lots of poof and hard as a rock hairspray
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you &mdash 07/24/07 - 05:26:15 PM
are never too old to rock, that half time part is super cool. it's funny, i keep looking at your avatar and picturing "you" doing the vocal track. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Michael &mdash 07/24/07 - 08:37:41 PM
It's funnier than you might think. I have the googles down while recording the vocals. ;-0
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Almost had me bouncing round the office... &mdash 07/25/07 - 10:39:56 AM
Brilliant! Just what I needed to hear at 4:30 pm to give me that extra energy boost to survive the final half-hour before going home! [ Reply to This ]
I know what you mean &mdash 07/25/07 - 08:18:35 PM
except for me it's about two o'clock when the day drags and I could use a nap. maybe it's a good idea to crank some fast tunes to get the adrenaline going.
Thanks for the listen!
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Excellent! &mdash 07/25/07 - 12:49:26 PM
Another great song from you - love those guitars. A real wall of sound - perhaps there's a little too much limiting going on - I just want it to get louder but it's hitting a brick wall when your vocals come in (and I'm with the others on the rapid fade). Apart from those minor crits it's excellent and yet another fav.
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Thanks Peter &mdash 07/25/07 - 08:25:31 PM
I know what you mean on the headroom. I'm going to need to do some reconfiguration there. I hadn't planned on even having a outro solo originally. That was a last thought as it was. I had the same feeling oh no!
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This is such a cool tune - &mdash 07/27/07 - 05:25:17 AM
you make great creative use of the power of the computer. Just wondering - got anything on tape? [ Reply to This ]
tapes &mdash 07/28/07 - 12:53:55 AM
I use to record some stuff some time back on to cassettes. pretty lo fi. I'm not sure if they're still around. A few I have remembered over the years and have re-recorded
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Awesome: &mdash 07/27/07 - 10:44:35 AM
"don't believe in the lost boys
divided they stand
don't believe in the lost boys
united they fall"
Cool tune...great chorus...
I'll sing this one with ya, vic...
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Excellent Bob &mdash 07/28/07 - 01:00:14 AM
If this was '74 I think there would of been some firing squads with hot muzzles. I originally was writting about checkout tabs until the latest FEMA fiascos where on the news and it put me on a soap box here.
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Geez! &mdash 07/27/07 - 03:14:54 PM
Your imagination with the guitar effects and mixing is dazzling. You really set the bar high with this one. Great song, too! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Lisa &mdash 07/28/07 - 01:10:02 AM
I don't go out to the bars to much now-a-days so I have to find my own bars to go to. Luckily this bar tab is a lot cheaper and less hangovers.
Thanks for listening!
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Vic's Bar &mdash 07/28/07 - 03:51:12 AM
Ladies get in free &mdash 07/28/07 - 11:23:02 AM
platforms are back and taller. Or I'm shrinking.
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Impressed &mdash 07/30/07 - 01:54:50 AM
Most men won't admit to that. You're very secure in your manliness. ;-) [ Reply to This ]
all the gals at work &mdash 07/30/07 - 08:58:49 PM
use me as a measuring post to see who's got the higher platform shoes.
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l beleive &mdash 07/28/07 - 04:59:15 PM
You've got a million songs in you. And they're all as good as this. I absolutely love the way you finesse the progressions with the hooks and melodic lines. The slow part was divine. This rocks [ Reply to This ]
maybe not a million &mdash 07/28/07 - 08:05:01 PM
I did have a bunch of older tunes here that I emptied out sometime ago. and quite a few older ones never posted. most where not that great. Usually after I finish a song, I tend to think "that's it, no ideas of what to do next". I tend to wing it at times.
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!!! &mdash 08/01/07 - 09:37:21 AM
Tanks &mdash 08/02/07 - 08:55:57 PM
I still have images from the video on your last posting. That was Great!!
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great tune &mdash 08/03/07 - 04:50:36 PM
you're damn near gonna make me check out the rest of your stuff! really enjoyed this [ Reply to This ]
Thanks &mdash 08/04/07 - 02:53:12 AM
hopefully there are a few that you might get into!
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Another Comet &mdash 08/06/07 - 06:06:00 AM
comes burning across the sky from Planet Vic! How do you do this so consistantly?
Your guitars are always a tour de force, not just for your virtuosityness (touch of Radar O'Rielly there) but the sophisticated balancing of different guitar sounds and effects and THEN herding it all into one potent, cohesive hammer of a tune. I've said all this stuff in previous tunes, but you just keep finding ways to make the Vic Holman Sound fresh and exciting. [ Reply to This ]
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