Lost Boys

Vic Holman

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Just to make sure I wasn't going soft. This is a fast and hard rock tune.
Lyrics are pretty obvious at making a jab at the "certain elite" that seem to wear teflon suits and ear muffs.

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Lost Boys

1
an open letter
to the lost boys
they the burn words
to silence the stories
lost boys don't read anymore
do you see the signs
could you read there minds
is it the sign of the times
can they see the writing
on the wall
but they ignore the phone calls

chorus:
don't believe in the lost boys
divided they stand
don't believe in the lost boys
united they fall

2
you have a freedom
as long as you pay
but be careful
of what you want
political savants take what you got
best you worry
we install fear
you are protected here
we take the measures
go to great lengths
or bad boys will enforce the fear

chorus:
don't believe in the lost boys
divided they stand
don't believe in the lost boys
united they fall

3
protecting there own
a tight knit clan
evangelistic hair
makes the man
no one goes down united they stand
did the stories change
for monetary gains
somebody better explain
see the writing
on the wall
lost boys deny it all.

chorus:
don't believe in the lost boys
divided they stand
don't believe in the lost boys
united they fall
dont' believe in the lost boys (x3)

Song Stats

Hits: 1488
Comments: 71
Fans: 21
Plays: 200
Downloads: 86
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Uploaded: Jul 20, 2007 - 08:37:17 PM
Last Updated: Jul 23, 2007 - 11:23:53 PM Last Played: Apr 14, 2009 - 08:45:10 AM

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Hardware:

iMac. Ibanez SA electric & bass, Epiphone DOT Deluxe, Ibanez EW acoustic, Digitech GNX2 pedal board, Ibanez Tube Screamer, BBE Sonic Stomp, M-audio keyboard and interface, shure 57 mike.

Software:

Logic Express

Comments

	said 858 days ago (July 20th, 2007)
	Im not worthy Love the guitar that is between the stanzas and chorus! then the almost led zeppelin sounding slow part.. your leading is outstanding. I love your sound so clear another one for the Ipod!!!!!!!!!!!

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 858 days ago (July 20th, 2007)
	Thanks E.B. The slow part. I thought it would be cool to throw in something at half the speed and get a little bluesy. I was trying to think who it reminded me a little of. maybe Led Zep is right. Thanks again. I liked your new rosebud tune! --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

Ed Hannifin

Ed Hannifin said 858 days ago (July 20th, 2007)

Even though you have a sound...
...an established sound, and a good sound...

I keep hearing refinement every time I hear that sound again...

I may be wrong--in fact, with your stuff, I think I'm MOSTLY wrong--but it sounds like you're getting the same multi-guitar sound with fewer guitars... it still sounds full, jangly, and every other thing it has to be, and yet it has some degree of simplicity to my ears...

I was disappointed at the speed of the final fade, as that outro lead break sounded fiery cool...

Are you still going to tell me there are no effects on the voice?

And really--no embedded graphic element? I have come to expect a certain level of quality, Vic...

Y'know sometimes I just sit here listening to one of your songs trying to imagine what you've concocted in your various signal chains to get the blend and the mix that you come up with... Mostly I give up... but it's fun...

Ed

Check out my latest song called Next Time Around (w/jiguma)

Vic Holman

Vic Holman said 858 days ago (July 20th, 2007)

Thanks Ed
I'm still learning the software and probably always will. You can spend quite a few evenings just tweeking the levels and pans and other perameters.

I only use the compression & noise gate on my vocals, and maybe a small bit of reverb......and that shiny green button that says do not touch (kidding, about the green button, it's red)

True a bulk of the song is fairly basic chords, it's just the stuff that goes off from there. Signal wise, i use a fender twin amp model, BBE Sonic Stomp and ibanez tube screamer. Some parts have a marshall stack simulator. Some parts i use once in a while is the volume pedal with long delays.

Since i bounce the track straight from Logic it doesn't have a image tag. Actually I didn't even realize i could tag the other stuff until a few weeks ago.

Thanks again Ed!

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what is the norm?

Check out my latest song called November

	said 858 days ago (July 20th, 2007)
	Electric! I feel like such a groupie, the energy here kicks total ass, That break is exquisite it allows the listener to cath the breath then solo gets it all back in gear, this is no haolds barred V.H.!!!! rip it up Vic!

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
	Thanks Tom Heck, I get all giddy like a school girl when you release a tune. It has been a while since I did a fast. The downside is I sprained my index finger near the end of this. --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

Feter

Feter said 858 days ago (July 21st, 2007)

Lost Boys
this is a suburb work ..I m hearing amazing
guitar work , real sence of classic rock
wish "wear teflon suits and ear muffs" done that
your voice is so diffrent here the taste you
gave with your singing here is like old Status Quo
just a blast ..the acoustic Ibanez in the middle
was a real charm break down ..Kudos my friend !!!

Check out my latest song called A Night With Feter feat'(Roxylee sloparts crissew johnwhitehead and Yamin AL Yamani )

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
	Thanks Feter Go's to show use older guys can still rock! Yeah my voice sounds a bit different, but then I had to do it louder to overcome the rest of the music. The acoustic section was actually going to be the original song, But I though about rocking it out a bit. Thanks again Feter --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

echoroom

echoroom said 858 days ago (July 21st, 2007)

Turn that chorus up!
Great tune Vic - I so love the guitars on this Vic - they have a real chrusy/jangley 80's quality to them which is right up my street, but then you mix the acoutsic in sooo well with them. The slow-down works a treat, just before we're hit with that scorchin' solo.

You don't sound lost at all ... this gets better and better as the track goes on! Wat to say - another cracking Holman guitar epic ... how can one man have so many great tunes in him???

steve

Check out my latest song called Deeper (w/t Racerat)

Vic Holman

Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 21st, 2007)

Hi Steve
I had to do this whole thing in brief parts. Our daily tempertures was so hot. my recording room upstairs was like a sauna. The guitar strings would go out of tune so fast. Originally i was doing lyrics about the tabloid stories at the store checkout stands. Bat Boy turned into lost boys.

Usually when I start thinking about a new song, i realize I've got nothing. Luckily something comes to mind. so far. I fit comes to that point then it's guitar for hire. well II would do that anyway.

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what is the norm?

Check out my latest song called November

said 858 days ago (July 21st, 2007)

Rock ??? .. ROCK ON ROCK .. PERFECT
Mr. Vic .. i swear that i've checked your page 3 times yesterday .. and didn't find anything ..
And surprisingly i opened Mr. Mikey Wark page and see his favorite songs .. and saw the LOST BOYS by Vic Holman was there .. OMG !!
Please if you have time .. send me a message to let me know that you post new GREAT song ..
But it's ok for me coz i'm not really late .. !!!

For the song .. it's great as usual ..
The singing fits the melody and nice to hear these great words by your vocal ..
This is so Rock .. so please .. ROCK ON ROCK ..
More than great one ..
I'm always enjoying hearing these songs ..
but till now FOREVER YESTERDAY is the best ..
This one is much enjoyable ..
Keep up the great work .. and take care

Regardz
==============
Yeman Auf Al-Rawi

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
	Thanks Yeman Goes to show your never to old to rock. I'm sure someday we will hear a cool fast rock tune from you. That should be cool. Sure, I'll try to remember to send you a note when I post any song Thanks again Yeman --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

SmokeyVW	SmokeyVW said 858 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
	& they'll us down with 'em if they can are you sure you're not Tom Petty hiding out here at MacJams? wowee that break in the pace is dynamite - perfect thank you sir Check out my latest song called One For Me

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
	I'm Petty sure..... That I'm not Tom Petty. I still have to go to work in the mornings. But if he ever needs a stand-in and the pay is good. You know these lost boys, it's that blank stare. The middle slow section was actually going to be the basis of the song. Thanks Bill --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

bud	bud said 857 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
	What blows me away Vic is the hotter your music gets the smarter it gets too. I tend to turn into a neanderthal when I pile on the guitars and amp up the pace. Excellent break as others have noted and great lyrics and vocals too. Check out my latest song called try not to think

Vic Holman

Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 21st, 2007)

Thanks Bud
I spread out recording this over 2 weeks. So it gave me some time to think of where to go with it. I had to trim out quite a few things when it would get to thick. The hardest part was figuring out any lyrics. The one saving grace for me was I was able to sing the song all the way through in one pass. I don't know how singers can do so many songs live in a row

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what is the norm?

Check out my latest song called November

Doadars Uncle	Doadars Uncle said 857 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
	All for none and none for all! "Don't believe in the lost boys" Very cool. Great talent! Check out my latest song called Capitalist's Drag

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	thanks Doug You can't avoid these lost boys they're spending your money faster then one can blow there nose. And none of them will spend any jail time. What a world --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

Dennis James	Dennis James said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Hey Vic... ....big and authentic sound here. Such neat production too. I must get a Mac too compete with you and Jig, I swear. Check out my latest song called Desolate.

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Hi Dennis I'm busting a nut just to keep up with everyone else. Be sure to get Logic Express as well. It has a learning curve, but it pays off once it clicks. --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

Scott Carmichael	Scott Carmichael said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	I second that Logic is an excellant tool Check out my latest song called Good Morning

Mcboy	Mcboy said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	waves lighter/candle back n forth..... while rocking out.......tasty guitar interlude/solo in the middle.....u convinced me....won't believe a word those lost boys say.....! Check out my latest song called Heros( aclarke/mcboy)

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Thanks Mcboy yeah, don't trust them. Especially, if a certain one of them invites you to go hunting. He won't wait to see the white of your eyes. Thanks again for the listen. --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

	said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Loving this again What a great song, its takes multiple listens to fully absorb, something about a V.H. chorus...just superb!

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Cool Tom there are a lot of layers to peel back. since it goes pretty quick it probably does take a few listens. I'm glad you took it around the block for another spin. --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

Axgrinder	Axgrinder said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	You are a diverse fellow, I must say! This sounds like something I would have heard on MTV back in the 80's, that is when MTV rocked! Nice job my friend. Hey "Tom Petty of MJ's," need a new heart breaker? Awesome all the way around. I got one in the oven! Check out my latest song called Dark Circus

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Thanks Alvin Yeah early mtv was a great time for some cool songs. reality shows? please. I'll keep a eye out for your new tune. --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)

Nope...NOT "going soft"!
Nice 80's rock feel here Vic...Love the transition from the verse to that outstanding chorus! Great git-chops as per usual. Your bass playing is exceptionally nice here as well! Oh yeah...just got to the slow section...very nice...and then we're BACK!!! Two thumbs up on the arrangement Vic. My one and only nit is that I thought the fade was too fast at the end. I'd have gone for a more gradual descent with your magnificent leads slowly soaring off into the distance! But's that's just me!

Rock on Vicar!

Vic Holman

Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)

soft should only apply to bathroom tissue
the slower part was going to be the basis of this song originally. But I felt I needed to belt one out.
Originally there was going to be no guitar solo at the end. that was just a last minute thing and i didn't have much space left. To bad I felt i was just warming up then hit the dreaded end marker

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what is the norm?

Check out my latest song called November

	said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	outstanding! i think is one my favs by you. great feel! a realy sense of energy! just a solid, driving rock tune!

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Thanks Jason I realized I haven't done a fast rocker in quite a while. This was a fun one to do. It really got my energy level up as well. --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

	said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Hey! Vic your play's a wow. Love it.... Thanks for this great upload. Take care --- Kenta

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Thanks Kenta I figured it's summer. and no summer is complete without a fast rock tune. Thanks for the listen! --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

Scott Carmichael

Scott Carmichael said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)

Classic VH
your VH-1 in my book... here is a high compliment.... as I'm listening here... this piece is remenicent of Jeff Lynn's producing.. you have melded several elements to create a whole... the mix is stellar... the way it kicks into the chorus... with the dual guitar line.. and that steam-like percusion... It really launches the chorus... i'm not sure how you did it... really brilliant

passionate vocals... tops all around

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Vic Holman

Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)

Thanks Scott
At times i break everything down into small pieces. Could very well be from listening to bands like ELO and some of the older prog rocker type of stuff.

The drums I played on the keyboard. It kind of keeps it more of a live feel.

Vocally I got this in one pass. Lucked out there. Otherwise I would of had to wait another day to attempt it again.

BTW hope your feeling better.

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what is the norm?

Check out my latest song called November

Norman Goodman

Norman Goodman said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)

I am not the norm, But I am Norm
There are so many cool layers to your music that it is hard to take them all in with one listen..... So on this one I just listened to the sum of the parts and appreciated the piece as a whole. This is very good.
Guitar playing on this is excellent and melody is very strong.
Very powerful musical statement!

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Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 857 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Thanks Norm I'm glad you are not the norm. just listened to your new song, excellent. At times I like to create something that adds to each listening. So I'm glad it works on both levels. Sum of all parts and the little things --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

	said 856 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Sounds Great! I'm trying to get caught up on all of the tunes I have waiting and I picked yours first. I'm glad I did, but I wouldn't have expected anything less from you anyway :P Nice tune- I enjoyed it, Vic!

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 856 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	uh oh pressure! Thanks Mike. It was time to crank out a summer rocker. Although i should of had these lost boys frollicking in the sand playing volloeyball. BTW finished with all that shrimp yet? --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

jiguma

jiguma said 856 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)

Better each time.
Better late than never Vic - sorry for the delay. Like Mike D, I'm on catchup.

The quality of your production seems to be getting better with each new post. This has hints of Traffic and Ray Davies to me, although that's only meant as a marker, not an accusation ;) The clarity you're getting with Logic is an impressive demonstration of its capabilities. A fine post! Now, I want to hear the full tabloid story on "Bat Boys".
Neil

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Vic Holman

Vic Holman said 856 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)

Your not late
Only posted this Friday night.

Thanks Neil. those are always good benchmarks. Always appreciated Traffic.

It's nice when you can adjust all the plug-in parameters throughout the song tracks. Especially on the high pass and low cut filters.

Bat Boy was one of those front page stories I think on Enquire. He would be captured only to escape and run rampant. Then he would be found again and escape. But to do a song he would also have to go on a diet and lose 10 pounds over the weekend, associate with zombies, predict the future, be adopted by Madonna, and get wisked away by a UFO.

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what is the norm?

Check out my latest song called November

	said 856 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Wow Vic!!!! This is great! Really ROCKS!!! Thoroughly enjoyed it.

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 854 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
	Odd I replied yesterday and it's not here. Anyway, thanks much Carole. If I remember I think I had previously said rockin out is fun but I have yet to do a heavy metal, mostly due to the fact I can't get those high pitched screams. --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

DWL	DWL said 855 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
	Catching up.... All the normal VH attributes are in place. An amazing wash of sound. Always a lot going on in your mixes and there's never a dull moment. Some intriguing lyrics... "evangelistic hair". No idea what it is but it's a great image! Cheers Dick Check out my latest song called A Good Night's Sleep with Macferret, Sir Dennis Crowther and Pete Young

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 854 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
	Thanks Dick. I like the 3 for 1 idea. get a bunch of stuff going. Could be a cross over from work where I multi-task to much. The hair.....those tv evangelist's. lots of poof and hard as a rock hairspray --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

michael2	michael2 said 854 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
	you are never too old to rock, that half time part is super cool. it's funny, i keep looking at your avatar and picturing "you" doing the vocal track. Check out my latest song called Behind Enemy Lines (w/Bud and Particle Dots)

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 854 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
	Thanks Michael It's funnier than you might think. I have the googles down while recording the vocals. ;-0 --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

elfdaughter	elfdaughter said 854 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
	Almost had me bouncing round the office... Brilliant! Just what I needed to hear at 4:30 pm to give me that extra energy boost to survive the final half-hour before going home! Check out my latest song called Carol of the Bells 2009

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 853 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
	I know what you mean except for me it's about two o'clock when the day drags and I could use a nap. maybe it's a good idea to crank some fast tunes to get the adrenaline going. Thanks for the listen! --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

Peter Bauckham

Peter Bauckham said 854 days ago (July 25th, 2007)

Excellent!
Another great song from you - love those guitars. A real wall of sound - perhaps there's a little too much limiting going on - I just want it to get louder but it's hitting a brick wall when your vocals come in (and I'm with the others on the rapid fade). Apart from those minor crits it's excellent and yet another fav.

Peter

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Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 853 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
	Thanks Peter I know what you mean on the headroom. I'm going to need to do some reconfiguration there. I hadn't planned on even having a outro solo originally. That was a last thought as it was. I had the same feeling oh no! --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

Vintage Music Festival	Vintage Music Festival said 852 days ago (July 27th, 2007)
	This is such a cool tune - you make great creative use of the power of the computer. Just wondering - got anything on tape? Check out my latest song called Analogapalooza

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 851 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
	tapes I use to record some stuff some time back on to cassettes. pretty lo fi. I'm not sure if they're still around. A few I have remembered over the years and have re-recorded --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

guitapick	guitapick said 852 days ago (July 27th, 2007)
	Awesome: "don't believe in the lost boys divided they stand don't believe in the lost boys united they fall" Cool tune...great chorus... I'll sing this one with ya, vic... Check out my latest song called Outside the Corral

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 851 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
	Excellent Bob If this was '74 I think there would of been some firing squads with hot muzzles. I originally was writting about checkout tabs until the latest FEMA fiascos where on the news and it put me on a soap box here. --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

ledebutant	ledebutant said 852 days ago (July 27th, 2007)
	Geez! Your imagination with the guitar effects and mixing is dazzling. You really set the bar high with this one. Great song, too! Check out my latest song called Black Star (MJ Live Aid w/jgurner)

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 851 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
	Thanks Lisa I don't go out to the bars to much now-a-days so I have to find my own bars to go to. Luckily this bar tab is a lot cheaper and less hangovers. Thanks for listening! --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

ledebutant	ledebutant said 851 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
	Vic's Bar Just remind me to wear platforms when I come to your bar. Check out my latest song called Black Star (MJ Live Aid w/jgurner)

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 851 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
	Ladies get in free platforms are back and taller. Or I'm shrinking. --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

ledebutant	ledebutant said 849 days ago (July 30th, 2007)
	Impressed Most men won't admit to that. You're very secure in your manliness. ;-) Check out my latest song called Black Star (MJ Live Aid w/jgurner)

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 848 days ago (July 30th, 2007)
	all the gals at work use me as a measuring post to see who's got the higher platform shoes. --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

ktb	ktb said 850 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
	l beleive You've got a million songs in you. And they're all as good as this. I absolutely love the way you finesse the progressions with the hooks and melodic lines. The slow part was divine. This rocks Check out my latest song called Texas stump

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 850 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
	maybe not a million I did have a bunch of older tunes here that I emptied out sometime ago. and quite a few older ones never posted. most where not that great. Usually after I finish a song, I tend to think "that's it, no ideas of what to do next". I tend to wing it at times. --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

JOAN	JOAN said 847 days ago (August 1st, 2007)
	!!! very nice!!! Check out my latest song called MUD

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 845 days ago (August 2nd, 2007)
	Tanks I still have images from the video on your last posting. That was Great!! --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

_nderscore	_nderscore said 844 days ago (August 3rd, 2007)
	great tune you're damn near gonna make me check out the rest of your stuff! really enjoyed this Check out my latest song called glyd

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 844 days ago (August 4th, 2007)
	Thanks hopefully there are a few that you might get into! --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

said 842 days ago (August 6th, 2007)

Another Comet
comes burning across the sky from Planet Vic! How do you do this so consistantly?

Your guitars are always a tour de force, not just for your virtuosityness (touch of Radar O'Rielly there) but the sophisticated balancing of different guitar sounds and effects and THEN herding it all into one potent, cohesive hammer of a tune. I've said all this stuff in previous tunes, but you just keep finding ways to make the Vic Holman Sound fresh and exciting.

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 839 days ago (August 8th, 2007)
	Thanks Rik Usually it's a audio puzzle. Sometime's I'm not sure how it really goes until I call it quites. Plus I can get board pretty quick if I don't stick myself in the middle of chaos --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

lavalamp	lavalamp said 838 days ago (August 10th, 2007)
	Nice changes Always love your stuff. You didn't disappoint here. Good chrous and great playing as usual. Especially like the guitar break. Kind of 80's feel. Great job Mr. Petty LL Check out my latest song called Googolplex Times Zero

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 837 days ago (August 11th, 2007)
	Thanks Dave It's a semi-political/corporate rant. And fun to rock out a bit! --- what is the norm? Check out my latest song called November

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