The Minstrel Boy w/ Rebsie and R. Schletty

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This is my entry in the MJ Vocals Game :V4C01. Both vocal tracks impressed me so much that I decided to combine them. I liked Rebsie's slower tempo, so I slowed down Richard and then pitched him to something approximating a harmony. Then came the task of slicing and dicing to more or less match phrasing. After that I decided that atmosphere was the best accompaniment to set off their voices so I raided the effects loops. The bass drum is thunder and there's a forest at night and a ship at sea in there too.

Thanks to Brian for setting this up and to Rebsie and Richard for their wonderful vocals. I look forward to hearing the efforts of the other participants.

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Lyrics

The minstrel boy to the war is gone,
In the ranks of death you'll find him;
His father's sword he hath girded on,
And his wild harp slung behind him;
"Land of Song!" cried the warrior bard,
"Tho' all the world betrays thee,
One sword, at least, thy right shall guard,
One faithful harp shall praise thee!"

The Minstrel fell! But the foeman's chain
Could not bring that proud soul under;
The harp he lov'd ne'er spoke again,
For he tore its chords asunder;
And said "No chains shall sully thee,
Thou soul of love and brav'ry!
Thy songs were made for the pure and free
They shall never sound in slavery!

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Uploaded: Jul 22, 2007 - 11:01:55 PM
Last Updated: Jul 22, 2007 - 11:10:11 PM Last Played: Jul 20, 2009 - 01:17:31 PM

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V4C01 (7), MJ Vocals Game (1)

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iMac G5

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GarageBand3

Comments

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 855 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	not an easy task to match the voices. interest experiment in syncing them up, And a lot a hair pulling I'm imagining. The music you chose matches the period as well. Check out my latest song called November

bud	bud said 855 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Thanks Vic- Actually - my favorite thing is hair pulling. I just love having a challenge that resembles a puzzle - but I do run out of patience after a while. Glad you stopped by and thanks for commenting. All the entries I've heard so far have been great. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

	said 852 days ago (July 26th, 2007)
	Wha? That's easy for you to say Bud...Just look at all the hair you've got to pull...LOL! --- "We are put upon this earth a little space that we might learn to bear the beams of love." (William Blake)

CosmicDaniel	CosmicDaniel said 855 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	fabulous this is a wonderful mix,I do tend to like this style of vocal performances and I do think I'll have a try at this vocal game, nice song Vic Check out my latest song called Soul Of Love ( V4C01 )

CosmicDaniel	CosmicDaniel said 855 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
	Oops pardon my mistake, this is my 2nd posting, I meant to say nice remix Bud..... Check out my latest song called Soul Of Love ( V4C01 )

bud	bud said 855 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Thanks for listening - please do join in the fun. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

	said 855 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Very Nice It kind of reminds me of "Fairytale Of New York" by The Pogues And Kirsty MacColl Nice work

bud	bud said 855 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Fairytale is one of my favorite songs I must admit that I wasn't thinking of it at the time - but something in the back of my head made me feel comfortable with some of the looseness in this. I guess that was it. Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

lengold	lengold said 855 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Well done Bud - very, very cleverly done. The bass drum really sounds like a battlefield. I think that you have captured the feel of this very well. Cheers Len Check out my latest song called Dodgy Doughnut

bud	bud said 855 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Thanks for your comments I was feeling a real shortage of appropriate loops for this track - but that only drove me toward sound effects which proved to be more interesting in the end. The drum is thunder. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

VicDiesel	VicDiesel said 855 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	The drums of war You've done a great job on making a background that sounds in spirit with the song. This is probably the most "real" sounding entry I've heard so far. It's a very cool idea to combine the two tracks. The harmonies are not precise, but that makes them all the more original. The distant drums are a nice ominous touch. Check out my latest song called Desert Stars

bud

bud said 855 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)

My usual tendency is to subvert
the source material into something barely recognizable on a challenge like this - but I was so taken by the vocal performances that I wanted to do as little as possible to them and just position them in an interesting way. Glad you like it - and thanks for stopping by. I really enjoyed your's and everyone else's entries I've heard so far.

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	said 855 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Good Job Very good job .. I like it .. nice to hear you add to this one one of the greatest vocalists at MJ .. Rebsie and R. Schletty .. Thanks for this piece .. Regardz ============== Yeman Auf Al-Rawi Wish to hear my newest song .. I REMEMBER : http://www.macjams.com/song/33577

bud	bud said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Thanks for stopping by - It was a pleasure to work with Rebsie and Richard. The challenge was trying to stay out of their way and let their work shine. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

	said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	i think this one inspired me the most--your use of the dreamy tones gave it a vivid picture in my mind. AND you were able to use Both vocals... i could not get them synced very well.....i ditched the thought, and you spanked it!!!

bud	bud said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	I was blown away by your entry - I'm really happy you can get into this take. Thanks for stopping by and commenting. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

illuminati	illuminati said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Very Pogue-ish and dreamlike, as others have said. A disturbing dream. It sounds like something bad is about to happen. Very evocative and, I imagine, different than the others that will be posted. Check out my latest song called Vainglorious

bud	bud said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	So far all the entries have been very different I really enjoyed what I heard from you as well. I saw the Pogues years ago and my grandfather was a Scotts/Irish Balladeer - I guess it's in my blood. Thanks for your comments. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

	said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	doing battle Quite unexpected and wonderful. Thank you so much for your bold experimentation. Lotsa splicing and aligning. Nice atmosphere.

bud	bud said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Thanks go to you for your great contribution to this game. I really had fun lining you and Rebsie up. I hope you don't mind the liberties I took with your vocal to get this to work. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

Diviner	Diviner said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Brilliant!! Wow, thats a brilliant entry. To get those two vocals in harmony is a great idea and very well executed. I would never had done that because of the technical know how. Thats very brave and it worked, well done. Great backing music as well. This is a very creative piece. Check out my latest song called Space Program (Space Race 2009)

bud	bud said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Why thank you very much For creativity I think I'll have to bow to your Munchkin version. What a hoot that is. It was a lot of fun working on this piece. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

apb

apb said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)

Clever stuff bud

like the 'calling to war' drum, sets the scene well ..
the most impressive is the use of the two vocals together..that must have been tricky. Plenty of nice
ambient/atmospheric coloration in the backing too. More
in keeping with a modern but still traditional take ..
the Irishy/Pogues overall sound others hear, I hear too ..in a kinda of closest vague overall comparison way :o)

Good stuff. Great game.

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bud	bud said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Thanks for your comments I really enjoyed your entry as well. This whole thing is really taking shape nicely. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

JOAN	JOAN said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	cool song really nice colab guys.. excellent vocals and music Check out my latest song called MUD

bud	bud said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	I expect to hear a cameo of The Minstrel Boy vocals at the next Joan Jam. I know you guys can do it. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

Rebsie	Rebsie said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Very enjoyable Excellent! I'm very impressed. You had a lot of creative vision and patience to make this come together the way it has and it was well worth it. Check out my latest song called Amongst The Colours (w/ Luna Trick)

bud	bud said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	I'm happy to hear that you approve I hope my little nips and tucks pass muster. It was a great pleasure to work with your vocals - Brian may have opened a whole new door for me. BTW - I have more tenacity than patience. I tend to work like my avatar the terrier. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

	said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Tricky THe mix I mean THis must have been maddening in a good way... you must have turned off the snap to grid! cool sounds!

bud

bud said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)

You got that right
turn off the snap to grid and pull out the scissors. If I really wanted to get crazy I could have retimed and pitched individual words and phrases - but I kind of liked how rschletty's vocals felt more cinematic by being off in places. Kind of like when John Wayne sings in a film. Where's your remix?

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"music is a better noise" - Essential Logic

Check out my latest song called try not to think

peacepiano	peacepiano said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Creative I like your approach Bud. This is a good take and very creative. Thanks Bill Check out my latest song called I Should Have Known

bud	bud said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Thanks Bill I just got a chance to check out your version. Well done! --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

Scott Carmichael

Scott Carmichael said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)

No Doubt
my favorite part of this is the etherial bed for the tale to rest on... I'm not sure Richards voice always works... I'm afraid this is so good with Rebs that I'd like to hear a version with just her... or bring Rich down in the mix and make him spacialy distant wih some extreme panning and verb...

that said... you've still created my favorite environment for this

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bud	bud said 854 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
	Good comments - Richard's voice does not always work - and I was at odds with it as being emotionally effective in it's occasional wrongness. That said - I think your idea of placing it deeper into the bed as part of the atmosphere is a good one. Thanks for dropping by. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

michael2	michael2 said 853 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
	good job. i like how you blended the 2 voices. the instrumentation is perfect, rhythm and otherwise. i wish I had the time to get in on this challenge. how long did you spend on this? Check out my latest song called Behind Enemy Lines (w/Bud and Particle Dots)

bud

bud said 853 days ago (July 24th, 2007)

Glad you like it - it's got a lot
of rough edges but I decided to embrace them all. I'm not sure the drum track really does synch up in any way - and obviously the voices drift - but I've been reading Inside Tracks - a great book of interviews with legendary engineers and they all say the same thing - "Go for the feeling - not perfection".
This took about four or five hours to put together.

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"music is a better noise" - Essential Logic

Check out my latest song called try not to think

michael2

michael2 said 853 days ago (July 24th, 2007)

if you are
to listen really closely to the music we both love, there are wierd accidents everywhere: the beatles records are full of not quite perfect harmonies, neil young is raggedy as all hell, all of the punk and post punk stuff is a thin noisy mess, but who cares? actually, i think this sounds great. the 2 parts are definitely unexpected together, but that's what makes it genius.

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five_extra_arms	five_extra_arms said 853 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
	In The Same Room? Impressive work bud. It was a good decision to get these two together to your studio and have them sing together. I never thought of that. So much easier than hacking and stacking! Great job! Check out my latest song called Michael Pool

bud	bud said 852 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
	Together in the studio - Wouldn't that have been nice? Stacking and hacking is what I did - but you make it sound like Jeffrey Dahmer. I really dug your entry. Thanks for stopping by. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

five_extra_arms	five_extra_arms said 852 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
	Explicit Content! I'm glad you said that and not me! You're a madman. So how was the trip? Glad to be back? --- she'll love five extra arms. Check out my latest song called Michael Pool

Feter	Feter said 852 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
	The Minstrel Boy w/ Rebsie and R. Schletty lovely ...just so lovely hearing all this charming singing twine togther ..its like mixing two motion picutre with other back grounds ... this is one of the best takes Kudos my friend !! Check out my latest song called A Night With Feter feat'(Roxylee sloparts crissew johnwhitehead and Yamin AL Yamani )

bud	bud said 852 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
	Thanks for commenting I was thinking movie soundtrack when I did this - there was so much atmosphere already there in the vocals. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

DWL

DWL said 852 days ago (July 25th, 2007)

Two voices - wow!
Some undertaking, I couldn't even get one voice in sync with a drum beat let alone two with each other.

Yes, I see what you mean about similar approaches but isn't music wonderful that we ended up a different place :-)

Loved the "traditional" melodies that weaved in and out.

Cheers

Dick

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bud	bud said 852 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
	Thanks for stopping by I really enjoyed your piece and thanks for commenting. Nothing's really in synch her - I just let the organic nature of circumstance play along. Sometimes it bugs me - sometimes it's what I like most. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

	said 852 days ago (July 26th, 2007)
	Way to mix and match! That took guts and imagination Bud. Really cool end result...I love your instrumental choices. This sounds like a haunted Renaissance Fair after dark! Well done! Take care!

bud	bud said 850 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
	Thanks Mike I've been waiting for your entry. Are you gonna submit? --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

willnlf	willnlf said 851 days ago (July 26th, 2007)
	The drums and pipes stir the Celtic blood. I can see the landscape and hear the sadness. Check out my latest song called Dream Song

bud	bud said 850 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
	Celtic blood and sadness goes together like Lennon and McCartney - or Martin and Lewis. Thanks for stopping by. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

perceptualvortex	perceptualvortex said 851 days ago (July 26th, 2007)
	bud Great work, man. The way you layered both voices works really well, and the marching beat and rest of the backing music really sounds great. Check out my latest song called Machine Man (w Beastie Boys)

bud	bud said 848 days ago (July 29th, 2007)
	Thanks for commenting I really enjoyed working with Rebsie and Richard in this way. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

Dj French Toast	Dj French Toast said 851 days ago (July 26th, 2007)
	Damn Bud Nice job man ...I really loved the vocal contrasts between the two voices . loved it. Check out my latest song called Its The French Toast(Colab W/WillBill808)

bud	bud said 848 days ago (July 29th, 2007)
	Thanks Bennie - your entry is very cool - glad you can get behind this. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

Vintage Music Festival	Vintage Music Festival said 851 days ago (July 27th, 2007)
	Cool track Bud - Audacity really rocks, and it's cool what you can do with GarageBand. Got anything on tape? Check out my latest song called Analogapalooza

bud	bud said 848 days ago (July 29th, 2007)
	Smatter o fact I do just gotta dig it out. Thanks for dropping in Mr. V. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

dajama	dajama said 849 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
	Great sounds and terrific atmosphere here. The "thunder drum" sound really evokes a battlefield, and the storm/rain effect adds a nice touch of drama and sombre ambience. God knows how you managed to get the two vocals in sync. Fair play to you. I love some of the flute (?) sounds at the beginning and end. Very cool. Nice work. Peace. Check out my latest song called Across the Wire (MJRF)

bud	bud said 848 days ago (July 29th, 2007)
	Thanks man - I just got a chance to listen to your entry and it's killer. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

said 849 days ago (July 29th, 2007)

Evocative and Chilling
Combining the two voices becomes more than just an interesting idea; the different feel and emotional fingerprint of each creates a ghostly shadow that's almost a third entity that haunts you. Richard's voice, in particular, takes on a sad and frightened tone that's nowhere to be found in his exhuberent original. This piece is definately more than the sum of its parts.

The musical sound f/x work very well, particularly the crying wind - I could literally feel the dark rain against my skin. Superb job, Bud.

bud	bud said 848 days ago (July 29th, 2007)
	Thanks for the support I couldn't resist the challenge of combining the voices - I also couldn't decide which one to work with - so this was he obvious answer. The rest just flowed from their performances. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

ledebutant

ledebutant said 848 days ago (July 29th, 2007)

Blown Away
What you did with Richard's vocals is just inspired, Bud, incredibly visually evocative, I can SEE the two of them standing, exhausted on a battlefield, spread with dead or dying fellow soldiers. Richard sounds positively deranged by the ravages of war. The atmosphere here is so powerful and unsettling. This is more than a song, it's become a short story because of your arrangement. I'm not on a computer where I can download, but I will as soon as I'm on my main machine. Thank you.

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bud	bud said 848 days ago (July 29th, 2007)
	Lisa - you doth praise me too much Rebsie and Richard are the ones who brought their depth and emotion to this piece - I'm just the cuisinart. Really - I do appreciate your comments and just I just go done swooning over your latest tune Sail Away. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

alfalpha	alfalpha said 848 days ago (July 30th, 2007)
	great synching! You must have an infinite amount of patience Bud! The marriage of Rebsie & Richard's vocals are masterfully done & the musical accompaniment sits sweetly between the two! No mean feat! Thank You & Cheers! Alf Check out my latest song called Mania- w/DavisAmerica-The 'Sprout' Remix

Vintage Music Festival	Vintage Music Festival said 848 days ago (July 30th, 2007)
	Thanks for dropping by and for the kind words of support. I love challenges and puzzles of any nature. This wasn't really that hard. Getting computer voice Vicky to sing Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds to the tune of My Favorite Things was a bit trickier. --- <img src="/images/banners/578-Vintage Music Festival_banner.jpg" border="0" /> Check out my latest song called Analogapalooza

Schello	Schello said 847 days ago (July 30th, 2007)
	,-) Hello Bud... Spirit of the music...because is a better the words =) Bello, two big voice...YUMMY Schello� ---------------- Im not musician Check out my latest song called Snozz'en (Cronik Mix)

bud	bud said 847 days ago (July 31st, 2007)
	Thanks for stopping by Schello I was in Italy recently and had a wonderful time. What a great place. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

echoroom	echoroom said 845 days ago (August 1st, 2007)
	great atmosphere An inspired duet - this must've been a nightmare, but came out in sunlight. Stunning. Steve Check out my latest song called Deeper (w/t Racerat)

bud	bud said 845 days ago (August 1st, 2007)
	Thanks Steve - It really wasn't that hard. I think I got lucky when I redid the speed and pitch in Audacity. I kind of guessed. The rephrasing was just plain old fun. --- "music is a better noise" - Essential Logic Check out my latest song called try not to think

SmokeyVW	SmokeyVW said 842 days ago (August 4th, 2007)
	ominous it feels like voices floating both within and above the haze of war... rather creepy... most excellent! thanks Check out my latest song called One For Me

Heightened	Heightened said 727 days ago (November 27th, 2007)
	The Minstrel Boy Really liked the two voices on this one and drums really brought it home. Check out my latest song called A Journey Through Starburst Galaxy M82

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