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This is my entry in the MJ Vocals Game :V4C01. Both vocal tracks impressed me so much that I decided to combine them. I liked Rebsie's slower tempo, so I slowed down Richard and then pitched him to something approximating a harmony. Then came the task of slicing and dicing to more or less match phrasing. After that I decided that atmosphere was the best accompaniment to set off their voices so I raided the effects loops. The bass drum is thunder and there's a forest at night and a ship at sea in there too.
Thanks to Brian for setting this up and to Rebsie and Richard for their wonderful vocals. I look forward to hearing the efforts of the other participants.
Lyrics:
The minstrel boy to the war is gone,
In the ranks of death you'll find him;
His father's sword he hath girded on,
And his wild harp slung behind him;
"Land of Song!" cried the warrior bard,
"Tho' all the world betrays thee,
One sword, at least, thy right shall guard,
One faithful harp shall praise thee!"
The Minstrel fell! But the foeman's chain
Could not bring that proud soul under;
The harp he lov'd ne'er spoke again,
For he tore its chords asunder;
And said "No chains shall sully thee,
Thou soul of love and brav'ry!
Thy songs were made for the pure and free
They shall never sound in slavery!
Hardware:
iMac G5
Software:
GarageBand3
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not an easy task &mdash 07/22/07 - 11:28:34 PM
to match the voices. interest experiment in syncing them up, And a lot a hair pulling I'm imagining. The music you chose matches the period as well. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Vic- &mdash 07/23/07 - 08:24:23 AM
Actually - my favorite thing is hair pulling. I just love having a challenge that resembles a puzzle - but I do run out of patience after a while. Glad you stopped by and thanks for commenting. All the entries I've heard so far have been great.
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"music is a better noise" - Essential Logic [ Reply to This ]
Wha? &mdash 07/26/07 - 02:22:35 AM
That's easy for you to say Bud...Just look at all the hair you've got to pull...LOL!
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"We are put upon this earth a little space that we might learn to bear the beams of love." (William Blake) [ Reply to This ]
fabulous &mdash 07/22/07 - 11:57:37 PM
this is a wonderful mix,I do tend to like this style of vocal performances and I do think I'll have a try at this vocal game, nice song Vic [ Reply to This ]
Oops &mdash 07/22/07 - 11:59:49 PM
pardon my mistake, this is my 2nd posting, I meant to say nice remix Bud..... [ Reply to This ]
Thanks for listening - &mdash 07/23/07 - 08:25:53 AM
please do join in the fun.
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Very Nice &mdash 07/23/07 - 12:17:46 AM
It kind of reminds me of "Fairytale Of New York" by The Pogues And Kirsty MacColl
Nice work [ Reply to This ]
Fairytale is one of my favorite songs &mdash 07/23/07 - 08:29:34 AM
I must admit that I wasn't thinking of it at the time - but something in the back of my head made me feel comfortable with some of the looseness in this. I guess that was it. Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment.
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"music is a better noise" - Essential Logic [ Reply to This ]
Well done &mdash 07/23/07 - 01:27:52 AM
Bud - very, very cleverly done. The bass drum really sounds like a battlefield. I think that you have captured the feel of this very well.
Cheers
Len
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Thanks for your comments &mdash 07/23/07 - 08:33:24 AM
I was feeling a real shortage of appropriate loops for this track - but that only drove me toward sound effects which proved to be more interesting in the end. The drum is thunder.
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"music is a better noise" - Essential Logic [ Reply to This ]
The drums of war &mdash 07/23/07 - 07:39:58 AM
You've done a great job on making a background that sounds in spirit with the song. This is probably the most "real" sounding entry I've heard so far.
It's a very cool idea to combine the two tracks. The harmonies are not precise, but that makes them all the more original.
The distant drums are a nice ominous touch.
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My usual tendency is to subvert &mdash 07/23/07 - 08:37:31 AM
the source material into something barely recognizable on a challenge like this - but I was so taken by the vocal performances that I wanted to do as little as possible to them and just position them in an interesting way. Glad you like it - and thanks for stopping by. I really enjoyed your's and everyone else's entries I've heard so far.
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"music is a better noise" - Essential Logic [ Reply to This ]
Good Job &mdash 07/23/07 - 09:18:14 AM
Very good job ..
I like it .. nice to hear you add to this one one of the greatest vocalists at MJ .. Rebsie and R. Schletty ..
Thanks for this piece ..
Regardz
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Yeman Auf Al-Rawi
Wish to hear my newest song ..
I REMEMBER : http://www.macjams.com/song/33577 [ Reply to This ]
Thanks for stopping by - &mdash 07/23/07 - 10:32:22 AM
It was a pleasure to work with Rebsie and Richard. The challenge was trying to stay out of their way and let their work shine.
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i think &mdash 07/23/07 - 09:45:18 AM
this one inspired me the most--your use of the dreamy tones gave it a vivid picture in my mind. AND you were able to use Both vocals... i could not get them synced very well.....i ditched the thought, and you spanked it!!! [ Reply to This ]
I was blown away by your entry - &mdash 07/23/07 - 02:33:22 PM
I'm really happy you can get into this take. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.
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Very Pogue-ish &mdash 07/23/07 - 09:59:46 AM
and dreamlike, as others have said. A disturbing dream. It sounds like something bad is about to happen. Very evocative and, I imagine, different than the others that will be posted. [ Reply to This ]
So far all the entries have been very different &mdash 07/23/07 - 02:37:20 PM
I really enjoyed what I heard from you as well. I saw the Pogues years ago and my grandfather was a Scotts/Irish Balladeer - I guess it's in my blood. Thanks for your comments.
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doing battle &mdash 07/23/07 - 10:28:50 AM
Quite unexpected and wonderful. Thank you so much for your bold experimentation. Lotsa splicing and aligning. Nice atmosphere. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks go to you for your great contribution &mdash 07/23/07 - 02:41:43 PM
to this game. I really had fun lining you and Rebsie up. I hope you don't mind the liberties I took with your vocal to get this to work.
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Brilliant!! &mdash 07/23/07 - 02:12:37 PM
Wow, thats a brilliant entry. To get those two vocals in harmony is a great idea and very well executed. I would never had done that because of the technical know how. Thats very brave and it worked, well done. Great backing music as well. This is a very creative piece. [ Reply to This ]
Why thank you very much &mdash 07/23/07 - 04:49:09 PM
For creativity I think I'll have to bow to your Munchkin version. What a hoot that is. It was a lot of fun working on this piece.
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Clever stuff bud &mdash 07/23/07 - 02:59:34 PM
like the 'calling to war' drum, sets the scene well ..
the most impressive is the use of the two vocals together..that must have been tricky. Plenty of nice
ambient/atmospheric coloration in the backing too. More
in keeping with a modern but still traditional take ..
the Irishy/Pogues overall sound others hear, I hear too ..in a kinda of closest vague overall comparison way :o)
Good stuff. Great game.
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Thanks for your comments &mdash 07/23/07 - 04:53:29 PM
I really enjoyed your entry as well. This whole thing is really taking shape nicely.
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cool song &mdash 07/23/07 - 03:56:50 PM
I expect to hear a cameo &mdash 07/23/07 - 04:55:28 PM
of The Minstrel Boy vocals at the next Joan Jam. I know you guys can do it.
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Very enjoyable &mdash 07/23/07 - 04:40:04 PM
Excellent! I'm very impressed. You had a lot of creative vision and patience to make this come together the way it has and it was well worth it. [ Reply to This ]
I'm happy to hear that you approve &mdash 07/23/07 - 04:59:06 PM
I hope my little nips and tucks pass muster. It was a great pleasure to work with your vocals - Brian may have opened a whole new door for me. BTW - I have more tenacity than patience. I tend to work like my avatar the terrier.
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Tricky &mdash 07/23/07 - 05:21:56 PM
THe mix I mean THis must have been maddening in a good way... you must have turned off the snap to grid! cool sounds! [ Reply to This ]
You got that right &mdash 07/23/07 - 06:59:08 PM
turn off the snap to grid and pull out the scissors. If I really wanted to get crazy I could have retimed and pitched individual words and phrases - but I kind of liked how rschletty's vocals felt more cinematic by being off in places. Kind of like when John Wayne sings in a film. Where's your remix?
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Creative &mdash 07/23/07 - 06:27:07 PM
I like your approach Bud. This is a good take and very creative.
Thanks
Bill [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Bill &mdash 07/23/07 - 08:46:05 PM
I just got a chance to check out your version. Well done!
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No Doubt &mdash 07/23/07 - 07:04:01 PM
my favorite part of this is the etherial bed for the tale to rest on... I'm not sure Richards voice always works... I'm afraid this is so good with Rebs that I'd like to hear a version with just her... or bring Rich down in the mix and make him spacialy distant wih some extreme panning and verb...
that said... you've still created my favorite environment for this [ Reply to This ]
Good comments - &mdash 07/23/07 - 08:19:47 PM
Richard's voice does not always work - and I was at odds with it as being emotionally effective in it's occasional wrongness. That said - I think your idea of placing it deeper into the bed as part of the atmosphere is a good one. Thanks for dropping by.
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good &mdash 07/24/07 - 05:10:00 PM
job. i like how you blended the 2 voices. the instrumentation is perfect, rhythm and otherwise. i wish I had the time to get in on this challenge. how long did you spend on this? [ Reply to This ]
Glad you like it - it's got a lot &mdash 07/24/07 - 09:36:53 PM
of rough edges but I decided to embrace them all. I'm not sure the drum track really does synch up in any way - and obviously the voices drift - but I've been reading Inside Tracks - a great book of interviews with legendary engineers and they all say the same thing - "Go for the feeling - not perfection".
This took about four or five hours to put together.
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"music is a better noise" - Essential Logic [ Reply to This ]
if you are &mdash 07/24/07 - 11:24:04 PM
to listen really closely to the music we both love, there are wierd accidents everywhere: the beatles records are full of not quite perfect harmonies, neil young is raggedy as all hell, all of the punk and post punk stuff is a thin noisy mess, but who cares? actually, i think this sounds great. the 2 parts are definitely unexpected together, but that's what makes it genius. [ Reply to This ]
In The Same Room? &mdash 07/25/07 - 05:32:53 AM
Impressive work bud. It was a good decision to get these two together to your studio and have them sing together.
I never thought of that. So much easier than hacking and stacking!
Great job! [ Reply to This ]
Together in the studio - &mdash 07/25/07 - 01:41:34 PM
Wouldn't that have been nice? Stacking and hacking is what I did - but you make it sound like Jeffrey Dahmer.
I really dug your entry. Thanks for stopping by.
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Explicit Content! &mdash 07/25/07 - 01:59:39 PM
I'm glad you said that and not me!
You're a madman.
So how was the trip? Glad to be back?
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she'll love five extra arms. [ Reply to This ]
The Minstrel Boy w/ Rebsie and R. Schletty &mdash 07/25/07 - 11:29:03 AM
lovely ...just so lovely hearing all this
charming singing twine togther ..its like
mixing two motion picutre with other back
grounds ... this is one of the best takes
Kudos my friend !! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks for commenting &mdash 07/25/07 - 01:44:24 PM
I was thinking movie soundtrack when I did this - there was so much atmosphere already there in the vocals.
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Two voices - wow! &mdash 07/25/07 - 04:33:22 PM
Some undertaking, I couldn't even get one voice in sync with a drum beat let alone two with each other.
Yes, I see what you mean about similar approaches but isn't music wonderful that we ended up a different place :-)
Loved the "traditional" melodies that weaved in and out.
Cheers
Dick [ Reply to This ]
Thanks for stopping by &mdash 07/25/07 - 08:08:06 PM
I really enjoyed your piece and thanks for commenting.
Nothing's really in synch her - I just let the organic nature of circumstance play along. Sometimes it bugs me - sometimes it's what I like most.
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Way to mix and match! &mdash 07/26/07 - 02:21:30 AM
That took guts and imagination Bud. Really cool end result...I love your instrumental choices. This sounds like a haunted Renaissance Fair after dark! Well done!
Take care! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Mike &mdash 07/28/07 - 09:08:36 AM
I've been waiting for your entry. Are you gonna submit?
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The drums &mdash 07/26/07 - 10:12:30 AM
and pipes stir the Celtic blood. I can see the landscape and hear the sadness. [ Reply to This ]
Celtic blood and sadness &mdash 07/28/07 - 09:11:17 AM
goes together like Lennon and McCartney - or Martin and Lewis. Thanks for stopping by.
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bud &mdash 07/26/07 - 01:51:25 PM
Great work, man. The way you layered both voices works really well, and the marching beat and rest of the backing music really sounds great. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks for commenting &mdash 07/29/07 - 08:06:50 PM
I really enjoyed working with Rebsie and Richard in this way.
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Damn Bud &mdash 07/26/07 - 06:53:33 PM
Nice job man ...I really loved the vocal contrasts between the two voices . loved it. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Bennie - &mdash 07/29/07 - 08:09:15 PM
your entry is very cool - glad you can get behind this.
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Cool track Bud - &mdash 07/27/07 - 05:23:03 AM
Audacity really rocks, and it's cool what you can do with GarageBand.
Got anything on tape? [ Reply to This ]
Smatter o fact I do &mdash 07/29/07 - 08:11:19 PM
just gotta dig it out. Thanks for dropping in Mr. V.
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Great sounds &mdash 07/28/07 - 10:44:08 PM
and terrific atmosphere here. The "thunder drum" sound really evokes a battlefield, and the storm/rain effect adds a nice touch of drama and sombre ambience. God knows how you managed to get the two vocals in sync. Fair play to you. I love some of the flute (?) sounds at the beginning and end. Very cool. Nice work. Peace. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks man - &mdash 07/29/07 - 08:17:06 PM
I just got a chance to listen to your entry and it's killer.
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Evocative and Chilling &mdash 07/29/07 - 09:13:21 AM
Combining the two voices becomes more than just an interesting idea; the different feel and emotional fingerprint of each creates a ghostly shadow that's almost a third entity that haunts you. Richard's voice, in particular, takes on a sad and frightened tone that's nowhere to be found in his exhuberent original. This piece is definately more than the sum of its parts.
The musical sound f/x work very well, particularly the crying wind - I could literally feel the dark rain against my skin. Superb job, Bud.
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Thanks for the support &mdash 07/29/07 - 08:40:17 PM
I couldn't resist the challenge of combining the voices - I also couldn't decide which one to work with - so this was he obvious answer. The rest just flowed from their performances.
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Blown Away &mdash 07/29/07 - 08:06:07 PM
What you did with Richard's vocals is just inspired, Bud, incredibly visually evocative, I can SEE the two of them standing, exhausted on a battlefield, spread with dead or dying fellow soldiers. Richard sounds positively deranged by the ravages of war. The atmosphere here is so powerful and unsettling. This is more than a song, it's become a short story because of your arrangement. I'm not on a computer where I can download, but I will as soon as I'm on my main machine. Thank you.
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Lisa - you doth praise me too much &mdash 07/29/07 - 08:43:49 PM
Rebsie and Richard are the ones who brought their depth and emotion to this piece - I'm just the cuisinart. Really - I do appreciate your comments and just I just go done swooning over your latest tune Sail Away.
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"music is a better noise" - Essential Logic [ Reply to This ]
great synching! &mdash 07/30/07 - 01:42:01 AM
You must have an infinite amount of patience Bud!
The marriage of Rebsie & Richard's vocals are masterfully done & the musical accompaniment sits sweetly between the two!
No mean feat!
Thank You & Cheers!
Alf [ Reply to This ]
Thanks for dropping by and &mdash 07/30/07 - 08:16:54 AM
for the kind words of support. I love challenges and puzzles of any nature. This wasn't really that hard. Getting computer voice Vicky to sing Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds to the tune of My Favorite Things was a bit trickier.
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,-) &mdash 07/30/07 - 03:30:15 PM
Hello Bud...
Spirit of the music...because is a better the words =)
Bello, two big voice...YUMMY
Schello
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Thanks for stopping by Schello &mdash 07/31/07 - 07:37:58 AM
I was in Italy recently and had a wonderful time. What a great place.
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great atmosphere &mdash 08/01/07 - 12:10:54 PM
An inspired duet - this must've been a nightmare, but came out in sunlight. Stunning.
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Steve - &mdash 08/01/07 - 12:16:18 PM
It really wasn't that hard. I think I got lucky when I redid the speed and pitch in Audacity. I kind of guessed. The rephrasing was just plain old fun.
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ominous &mdash 08/04/07 - 05:20:41 PM
it feels like voices floating both within and above the haze of war...
rather creepy...
most excellent!
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The Minstrel Boy &mdash 11/27/07 - 08:34:34 PM
Really liked the two voices on this one and drums really brought it home. [ Reply to This ]
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