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Keywords:
Manhattan (7), hangs (1), Racerat (10), squeeling guitars (1), dying stars (1)
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Description:
This is a revamp of Manhattan Hangs done by Philip (Racerat) - the only things that remain from the original are the drums and a few bits of keyboard. Philip took the track, added all the guitars, some backing vocals, increased the song length and mixed it. I then re-did the main vocal (so if that sounds too loud, that's down to me!).
Not much else to say, other than I love what Philip did with this, and think it's a vast improvement. I dunno what we should call ourselves .. EchoRat? RaceRoom? Maybe Craig and VanDusen..... hmmm, sounds like a law firm ....
Steve
Lyrics:
The usual vague existential musings
Hardware:
IMac, Phils guitars
Software:
Logic pro, Addictive Drums, yousendit
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Demo Time! &mdash 08/19/07 - 01:39:36 AM
Also &mdash 08/19/07 - 01:41:41 AM
I got my vote in before you disabled ratings and you got straight 10's. I actually think the Production rating should have been about 15. [ Reply to This ]
Hells teeth! &mdash 08/19/07 - 01:46:26 AM
You are one fast lady (er, dont take that the wrong way).
I pushed submit, went and had a shave, and you were onto this song! Do you like the growly vocals - does it sound seductive or just asthmatic?
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Fast Lady &mdash 08/19/07 - 01:49:15 AM
...I was born in Essex, as you know.
I just happened to check my email at the moment you posted it. Ed is fast asleep on the East Coast, snoring...
Not asthmatic, not a bit. I can't say more than that as I'm a married woman, but those growly bits will make the young girls cry. [ Reply to This ]
Also, &mdash 08/19/07 - 01:51:18 AM
What kind of maniac goes and has a shave at 7:30 on a Sunday morning with his song halfway posted? I've seen the evidence. You're a morning person, aren't you? [ Reply to This ]
Yup &mdash 08/19/07 - 02:23:50 AM
got that right - Rachels still asleep .. the only reasom I'm not doing any singing is that it'd wake her up! Mind you, I am in bed by 9.30 these days - rock n roll! [ Reply to This ]
Young girls! &mdash 08/19/07 - 01:55:25 AM
Great! Actually, Rachel likes it when I put on my impression of Christian Bale's 'batman' voice from Batman Begins .... "storm's coming".
Might be too much information there!
Sleep tight
Steve [ Reply to This ]
hmmm &mdash 08/19/07 - 10:14:16 AM
hey &mdash 08/19/07 - 11:44:46 AM
whaddya mean hhhmmm - I'm a guy, i never really mature past 10 years of age. [ Reply to This ]
well...er.... &mdash 08/19/07 - 08:52:11 PM
...I know I shouldn't be saying this Steve (I am a happily married man after all!), but the growling bits are definitely seductive.
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"We are put upon this earth a little space that we might learn to bear the beams of love." (William Blake) [ Reply to This ]
... .. &mdash 08/20/07 - 12:51:26 AM
okay I came crawling out of &mdash 08/19/07 - 01:50:07 AM
the woodwork.
Heck Steve you're making up for lost time.
Really intense, really rawkin', really enough to make one wet they're pants.
At least thats what I hear about the girls in the early Beatle concerts.
And no I'm not a girly in order to stiffle any come back joke. [ Reply to This ]
Bedwetter &mdash 08/19/07 - 01:59:20 AM
hey Vic - this track is starting to intrude into Holman territory, in its rockingness ... maybe I need to give you a few % royalties.
I often made young girls cry in my youth, but then my mum would put the bag back on my head ...
Steve [ Reply to This ]
bagism &mdash 08/19/07 - 02:44:51 AM
paper bags are the best! You can draw faces on them.
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gravel doesn't belong on the lawn. especially on mowing day. [ Reply to This ]
Always Improving &mdash 08/19/07 - 05:52:16 AM
Steve and Phil,
Every step of the way this song grew and grew. I had such a great origins with your first version, Steve and look at it now. You guys did a brilliant job.
If you're looking for a name, maybe you should consider joining the Skank Brothers. With their international popularity, your song just might get some attention under the umbrella of their coolness? Just an idea.
You really made a good decision to redo this song Steve. It really turned into something rather epic in proportion to your other "jingles" you post here.
Hats off to you guys!
Bob [ Reply to This ]
gettin' better ... &mdash 08/19/07 - 08:57:00 AM
... maybe the Skunk Bros???? Too cool for school.
Actually, i'm gonna get Phil to redo everysingle track i've posted ... I may never have to mix another song again!
Gotta know your limitations ... mine are mixing and 4 beers.
Shouldn't you be in bed???
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Rock Star Life Style &mdash 08/19/07 - 10:51:34 AM
Much like you, this rocker is usually in a party-like coma after 9:30 any given night. 5:30am smell like coffee in my house. [ Reply to This ]
Yeah &mdash 08/20/07 - 12:55:42 AM
Oooh... &mdash 08/19/07 - 06:39:50 AM
...I'm relatively early here - America must still be in bed:-))
It's a great song - the original was magic. I'm gonna have to listen to this back to back with the first version before I say which is best - but does it matter, really? This is still stellar!
Complimens on the production to Philip - and the new vocal sounds cracking to me. As a frequesnt user of Ventorlin I can tell you what does and doesn't sound asthmatic - this doesn't!
Will get back to you once I've given this a couple more spins.
Phil [ Reply to This ]
singing &mdash 08/19/07 - 09:04:26 AM
To me, the best compliment I can get isn't 'you sound like Bowie', but 'you sound fit'.
However, that just doesnt happen (the latter, the former does all the time).
Hell, i wouldn't have been a singer in a band if i didn't need to be loved.
Personally, I prefer this version, but they are different beasts.
have a good Sunday mornin Phil!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Sounds..... &mdash 08/19/07 - 09:11:02 AM
Killer! You guys make a great team! Steve, the VOX levels sound good here. Excellent tune, guys! [ Reply to This ]
Vox &mdash 08/19/07 - 11:21:20 AM
Thanks - being a singer, i can sometimes push the voice up too high in the mix - thanks Mike!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Excellent remake of an already great tune &mdash 08/19/07 - 09:48:44 AM
the vocals are spot on and the production is tremendous. I especially like the guitar work here and the stately steady tempo. Nice atmospherics too. On second listen all I can say is this is damn good. [ Reply to This ]
Atmospherics &mdash 08/19/07 - 11:29:06 AM
I love the intro to this ... if i'd the nerve, i'd do a song all like this part, like your current lo-fi adventure. That said, the guitars Philip put onto this are ace - gives it a very widecreen feel.
Thanks Bud - for some 60's drone rock, check out The Black Angels on itunes - I've even managed to get my wife into 'em!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Great remix! &mdash 08/19/07 - 10:56:06 AM
Everything is polished and sounding grand, does Phil work ina pro studio and raids the premises at night? :) [ Reply to This ]
Hah &mdash 08/19/07 - 11:32:50 AM
Not so much a remix, more a heart transplant! I got a noo iron lung! I think Philip slums it on line, and actually Rick Rubin or someone in real life. Thanks Mr. W - looking forward to your next toon
Steve [ Reply to This ]
pro &mdash 08/19/07 - 11:55:40 AM
absolutely pro sounding to me.
i really enjoyed listening to this!
& the vocal level is just right.
thanks [ Reply to This ]
Pro! &mdash 08/20/07 - 01:00:30 AM
Who you call a pro! Oh, i taught ya meant ho'! Thanks Bill ... sorry about any misunderstanding ...
Steve [ Reply to This ]
i vote for &mdash 08/19/07 - 12:40:20 PM
racing rat echos......hehhehhe....very nice work indeed....rock ballad....echos of knights in white satin........all thumbs up! [ Reply to This ]
knights... &mdash 08/20/07 - 01:05:21 AM
.. in white satin - thats makes me Justin hayward ... sheeit! Thanks MB -
steve [ Reply to This ]
Whooooo! &mdash 08/19/07 - 01:39:07 PM
Well, the growly vocals work for me. Doesn't sound asthmatic to me except the bit where you stop and take a puff of Ventolin. (Just kidding.)
Fabulous track Steve ... it sounds completely pro as far as I'm concerned. Really top notch stuff. It's a great song, great melody, gorgeous vocals, delicious guitars ... what more can one ask?
CD ready and a total delight to listen to. [ Reply to This ]
Hey rebsie... &mdash 08/20/07 - 01:10:32 AM
... Phil did a great job dressing this up to go to the ball, and if you'd take it out, then it's a winner! I'm off to smoke some fags so I can get all growly for you...
Steve [ Reply to This ]
nice one &mdash 08/19/07 - 02:50:26 PM
this sounds great. i don't know how you keep your voice sounding so good. the quality of my voice definitely declined after I stopped touring and playing out (who's got time to practice?).
regarding the song, very cool Suede sort of vibe, and I love how the last thing you hear is your voice all low and manly. great job. On a side note, do not be tempted by the obvious (Rat Race) :) [ Reply to This ]
manly vocals.. &mdash 08/20/07 - 01:21:39 AM
.. just like my handshake! Thanks MIke - i love the 'drama' of Suedes music, and there's definately some of that in here!
My singing tips:
1. NEVER sing on a weekday (as my voice is hoarse after work)
2. Smoke ciggies and drink whiskey the night before (tip from an old studio engineer).
3. Sing with one ear out of the headphones.
My voice lasts about half an hour, so I dont do many takes - then it goes.
Feel free to ignore this advice!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
wonderful storytelling... &mdash 08/19/07 - 02:57:43 PM
great great work on this! and certainly, it was a hunk of some pretty amazing work from the begining. can't believe how fast you guys put this stuff together.
glad he didn't touch the drum track (too much, if at all)
awesome guitar work! a pretty impressiv remix!
***both heals in the air*** - i'm blown far away from whence i stood!
love your vocal work, steve! it's always so very right on!
beautiful writing! if i had a tenth of you guy's talent, they'd have to tie me down, and real tight too -- i'd have no life other than music. don't know how you might not do it...
great track! [ Reply to This ]
Two heels up! &mdash 08/21/07 - 01:51:34 AM
Actually, this was done before 'Breathing water', but i wanted to post that song first - so this is really our first collab.
I do think about giving it all up for a life of music, then I look in the mirror - not sure i fit in in a world full of teenage pop wannabe's ... although botox may help!
Ta macca
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Hey Steve... &mdash 08/21/07 - 10:33:12 AM
I don't quite understand the B'tox comment, but not to worry, smart music attracts, smart people...
And really, do you want some teenbooper on your trail for a sloppy wet kiss and a silly autograph... Well..., maybe don't answer that...
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I just love music! [ Reply to This ]
Macca - &mdash 08/22/07 - 12:05:30 PM
it's for my wrinlkes, the Botox.
I'm at an age where kissing teenagers is a capital offense! [ Reply to This ]
Tight &mdash 08/19/07 - 04:46:57 PM
And great I loved the original, but I must say Mr. racerat Brought this to another level! excellent [ Reply to This ]
I must admit ... &mdash 08/21/07 - 01:54:30 AM
..I've deleted the original from my 'pod in preference to this one ... it's a more aggresive beast, and I didn't want to argue with it!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Great song &mdash 08/19/07 - 05:05:45 PM
sounding better than ever - and I liked it before. Vocals are top notch (and sound just about the right volume to me) and the guitars are excellent too.
Really pro sounding re-working.
Peter [ Reply to This ]
Geetar &mdash 08/21/07 - 01:58:59 AM
hey Pete ... still waiting for your next track! I know, life gets in the way ...
It was great working with a real guitarist ... I've given up now, as Philip's work made me realise that's not where my 'talent' lies (still looking). Anyway, thanks about the vox - I didn't want them to dominate ... well, not all of me did (typical 'singers mix')!
In fgact, the only thing wrong with Phil's mix is the fact I'm sure those vocals weren't quite loud enough...!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
You sure this isn't playing somewhere &mdash 08/19/07 - 05:28:55 PM
on the radio, as I'm flippin' through the stations in Mustang Sally?! The first was good. This version just took me for a ride!!!! :-) Amazing music! Perfect vocals! [ Reply to This ]
On the radio! &mdash 08/21/07 - 02:02:54 AM
Hey CJ - the onlyradio this plays on is the one in my head ... and it's on permanent loop in my car. Thanks for the great feedback - Phil did such a good job on this, i listen to it and dont even think its me!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
On the radio! &mdash 08/21/07 - 02:03:06 AM
Hey CJ - the onlyradio this plays on is the one in my head ... and it's on permanent loop in my car. Thanks for the great feedback - Phil did such a good job on this, i listen to it and dont even think its me!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Feck me, I'm giving up &mdash 08/19/07 - 05:44:23 PM
This is so good.
Stupendous in fact.
I'm lost for words except I'd pay money for this .
Cheers
Dick [ Reply to This ]
Ta Dick &mdash 08/21/07 - 06:36:43 AM
- give us £0.79 and you can download it!
And i haven't invoiced you for MG yet!
ta matey
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Hey! &mdash 08/19/07 - 06:12:20 PM
I still love the original...BUT THIS IS WAY BETTER! Way to rock Phillip! What an excellent collab...Playing and production is outstanding. And your vox is just right Steve! Rock the house dudes!!!
Be well! [ Reply to This ]
2nd time round &mdash 08/21/07 - 06:39:53 AM
I said you were nuts to remix 'Hunted' and was wrong - guess the same applies here! I had some weedy guitars on the original, but nothing like what Philip out down - thanks for checking this out Mike
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Yeah, this puppy.... &mdash 08/19/07 - 09:11:50 PM
...is, as they say, "a completely realized production"...or some mess like that...
The vocal is great, and I wouldn't have picked it as a 'typical Steve' vocal...I love the guitar tones Philip is using, including the crackling on some of those slow lines that ride out of the mix... It has that feeling you get when you're in a small room with a tube amp, not all cleaned up...
Every bit of it, from drums to bass to guitars and vocals, perfectly occupies it's musical space and aural space and nothing feels overplayed or oversung or at all excessive...
That would be my only complaint, then...just to prove you're human, the two of you have to do a next collab that's self-indulgent and excessive...AND I WANT MELLOTRON...There, I haven't said THAT in a while... Also, no skimping--get those lyrics posted, and no, I don't want to have to go to the other version to get them...
I hope the two of you are getting satisfaction out of this in proportion to its awesome goodness...
We will leave the discussion of my alleged snoring to another time and venue...
Ed [ Reply to This ]
Hey Ed... &mdash 08/21/07 - 07:08:02 AM
...boy, you're a tough customer. We did discuss the crackling guitar and whether to clean it up ... but liked it messy. I'm intrigued by your comment about this not being a 'usual' vocal from me - i take that as a compliment - i might be strawberry flavour most of the time, but also try to be chocolate now and again.
Mellotron - well, you know, that's not impossible - I sent Phil a cd of The Black Angels, a really 60's sounding group, so it could be on the cards for future tracks . .. we do take requests!
Anyway, aren't you due another song up soon??? get busy!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Crispy goodness!! &mdash 08/20/07 - 12:58:45 AM
Yeah ............ it's OK I suppose. Can you play "running Bear" though ;)
Seriously though: Excellent performance, production song etc etc. What everyone else said. You sound really fit on this Steve!
Don't go losing each other's emails now will you - great stuff!!
Neil
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Dead fit &mdash 08/21/07 - 07:13:57 AM
I can retire now ... Neil thinks I sound fit, and he's a fine, tanned looking man. Just thought, I think we're coming to Australia next year if you want any backing vocals doing!
I'm constantly bothering Philip - I think he's gone radio silent in case it turns out I'm stalking him! We have one more track to do, a collab on an Alex weiler track, and then we'll see where we go ...
Steve [ Reply to This ]
wheew... &mdash 08/20/07 - 11:06:18 PM
I gotta go listen to the original to compare the changes made... but this song is smoking... Racerat is an awesome musician no doubt, and Steve adds another layer of musical sheen with his always-passionate vocals. [ Reply to This ]
Good piccie &mdash 08/21/07 - 07:17:28 AM
That's a fine lookin' new picture, leon - you look very distinguished. i keep trying to change mine, but never get anything I like ... the vivid colours on my current pic cover up all my wrinkles.
Anyway, you are one of the first guys ever to comment on one of my songs back in the old days, so if this meets your approval, I'm happy.
Hope the studying has gone well - get back here soon!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
tight. &mdash 08/21/07 - 09:41:57 AM
As pro-sounding as they come. It's just a damn fine piece of music, boys. Kudos -- no, make that multikudos! You put all us wanna-be, half-assed hacks to shame. :-) [ Reply to This ]
hacks???? &mdash 08/21/07 - 11:29:10 AM
Yeah right - i know what you've got up your sleeve, missy, so don't come humble here!
I must admit, I find your new avatar piccie quite, er, well, i'm just gonna go and have a cold shower.
Thanks for popping by Miss C!
Steve [ Reply to This ]
oooh. &mdash 08/21/07 - 12:31:43 PM
careful or I'll sic Bud's avatar on you. :-)
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"If Hell could be beautiful, it would look like Pasadena, Texas at night." [ Reply to This ]
Sorry &mdash 08/21/07 - 12:47:33 PM
Manhattan Hangs &mdash 08/21/07 - 12:06:16 PM
this is incredible .. Groovey Classic
sound and singing ..just a huge work
and efforts very clear to see here
very nice arrangment .. welldone !! [ Reply to This ]
Hung out &mdash 08/21/07 - 12:53:45 PM
Thanks feter - Phil put a lot of effort into making me sound good ... i dread working on my own now!
Thanks for listening
Steve [ Reply to This ]
Sheesh &mdash 08/21/07 - 02:46:05 PM
I snooze for two days, and your song is all commented up and stuff. Holy cow this is good. Great singing, perfectly matching music, moody, excellent production... what more does one need in a song?
Nothing. Great work, guys! [ Reply to This ]</ | |
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