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Future War Baby (w Drew Kopr, echoroom)

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perceptualvortex

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Writing and singing: Steve Craig (echoroom)
Bass, piccolo bass and organ: Andrew Koplan (Drew Kopr)
Other sounds and mix: David Thomas (perceptualvortex)

As usual it's a blast working with the kickass bassist Drew Kopr. And this time I also have the honor of collaborating with echoroom. Steve's lyrics and singing really shaped what started as a simple 7 jam between me and Drew into a full on rocking song that I'm proud to have mixed.

The song art is derived from a 1917 poster by Achille Luciano Mauzan.

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Lyrics
So young, so dumb
So young, so dumb
So young, so dumb

I am young and beautiful
Baby boy for a future war
Completely disposable
Che Guevara without the cause

You can make it on your own
No, no, no
You can make it on your own

You take me from my lover’s arms
Sign me up for the big parade
I am dumb and gullible
Che Guevara for data age
Got a holiday in the sun
Tell my mama I won’t be home

You can make it on your own
No, no, no
You can make it on your own
No, no, no
You can make it on your own
The revolution is postponed
You can make it on your own

Working for the government
Paying off the electorate
You can buy a mini gun
You can’t smoke a cigarette

So young, so dumb
So young, so dumb
So young, so dumb
So young, so dumb

Give me something to control
Get me out of this fucking mess
I’ll give you my bionic love
Che Guevara upon my chest
10,000 really dead
Buenos Aires a smoking hole

You can make it on your own
No, no, no
You can make it on your own
You can make it on your own
No, no, no
You can make it on your own
Song Stats
Hits: 4785
Comments: 68
Fans: 43
Plays: 520
Downloads: 194
Votes: 18
Uploaded: Aug 30, 2007 - 05:15:59 PM
Last Updated: Aug 30, 2007 - 05:24:20 PM Last Played: May 16, 2013 - 08:36:22 AM
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Drew Kopr said 2092 days ago (August 30th, 2007)
Speachless
Dave and Steve, all I can say is thank you; it was fantastic working this up with you guys. You both are sickly talented folks.
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perceptualvortex said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
My pleasure
And I agree, it was really great working with both of you. Drew, thanks for thinking to bring echoroom into this one. When I sent you those drum lines, who would have thought it would eventually turn into this? Haha!

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cchaplin said 2092 days ago (August 30th, 2007)
Killer Song !
And killer production !

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ktb said 2092 days ago (August 30th, 2007)
not enuf
words to compliment this work. spectacurageous


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jiguma said 2092 days ago (August 30th, 2007)
:O
Great lyrics (admittedly not the first thing I usually notice on a pv post!), and incredible production. Vocals, playing (all good, but the drums are a particular fav) all first class. Outstanding post.
Neil
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Z293 said 2092 days ago (August 30th, 2007)
The Journey Men
Great song from three guys that seem to get around. You sound great together.
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said 2092 days ago (August 30th, 2007)
power trio
What a mixture! echoroom is just great on this Mr kopr just rocks downloaded and a big thanks ya!!!
david.sfinzi said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
Good Song, good groove
I like it all--
lyrics, arrangement, mix, song, style.

Particularly like the like metallic percussion doing the syncop. rhythm-- what is it? Muted cowbell? Something from the kitchen?

Seems like the right mix of talented individuals to make "the band."
:)
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perceptualvortex said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
david
Thanks, man, I'm glad you like this! That metallic percussion is made of loops called 'brake drum percussion'--maybe you've heard of them :) I love bells and cowbells, but I try to keep them under control, haha. But I'm glad you like the way I used them here.

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DWL said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
Cracking stuff lads
Rocks like a very rock like thing

Cheers

Dick
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echoroom said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
Explicit content
Ever get involved in writing a song that you like soooo much, you can't believe that you were actually involved.

For me, this is one of those. I got the final mix last night and was grinning, dancing round the hotel room.

Dave and Andy - it was an absolute joy working on this, and one of the things that was so good was that we kept going at it until everyone was happy. Production and playing are ace, but to me, it's just an ace pop song.

Thank you for involving me in this, i'm really proud of this.

Guys - anytime, anyplace ...

Steve
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perceptualvortex said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
explicitly stated
The feeling is mutual, Steve. And yes, I'm glad you are both happy with the final result. I couldn't be more pleased with it myself, and I sure enjoyed working with you guys.

Let's make another rocker when we can.

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Drew Kopr said 2090 days ago (September 1st, 2007)
Great experience
It has been a very long time since I actually developed a tune with a band, but this was definitely one of those experiences. Each one of us authored this baby. I just wish Dave was not in Seattle and Steve in London....too many miles separate us for me to buy a round!!

Awesome tune, awesome time, and awesome experience guys!
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Drew Kopr said 2090 days ago (September 1st, 2007)
Almost forgot
Dave, great art...that is some look on the soldier's face...very striking.
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perceptualvortex said 2090 days ago (September 1st, 2007)
Yes
I thought that poster was really dramatic (especially for that artist). I like how he's recruiting you for the war effort.

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glennkav said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
So tell us the truth..
you really got David Bowie to sing for you on this, right? This is quite frankly the best collab I've heard. Great singing. What a cool voice! Great lyrics! Great rhythm section. Awesome!
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echoroom said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
... actually...
... I thought i sounded more like Jim Bowen on this ... nothing in this game for two in a bed ....

Steve
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Epileptic Gibbon said 2089 days ago (September 2nd, 2007)
Oh, right...
... how many people on this site are you expecting to get that reference, Steve? Me, you and Dick Langford? Still, the song pretty much hits the bullseye (can you see what I did there?). I shouldn't be surprised given the talent of the people working on this track. Nice work, boys.

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perceptualvortex said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
glennkav
Hey Glenn, thanks for the super kind comment, man!

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Feter said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
Future War Baby
COool Rock fellows ..what a jammin ..
welldone friends !!
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Einarus said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
Nice!
Oh, this is an excellent collaboration!
Good writing, good lyrics, excellent performances (by all of you) and just a cool vibe!
That's pretty much everything a cool song needs, innit?

Very nice work!

-Einar S.
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Parichayaka said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
Vortex expanding!!
What a tight, well-mixed/written song. Besides Steve's voice, which is perfect in this musical setting and sounds great I was especially impressed by the drums. The broken up beat is fantastic and adds a lot to the already solid guitar soundbed. And what's more - this collaboration sounds more like a band that's played together for years, rather than sound files mixed together. That's a surprisingly difficult thing to achieve and you guys really outdid yourselves. I'm totally impressed with everything here. And the vortex is growing bigger and better with every new song...unstoppable [add some pulsing sci-fi sound effects]
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echoroom said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
Together for years
that's an interesting comment - there was a great amout of collaboration between all three of us on all aspects of this song ... the structure , was the chorus strog enough etc.
Dave did a number of mixes and we all had our say, so i do think this is a true group effort (we even debated the use of the word f**k in the song), although the mix of this is all Daves work (by the way, you really nailed the bridge dave!)
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perceptualvortex said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
pulsing sci-fi sound effects
Thanks, Parichayaka, I really appreciate that. I was also impressed by the extent to which this sounds like an actual band. As Steve mentioned, it was truly a group effort with lots of iterations of the mix, and emails about what might be changed. Their feedback to me was invaluable--and in some ways this collab really was like a band practicing together and discussing the music.

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racerat said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
So Young
Hey guys,

This is ACE! I actually downloaded it before it got to the bridge. I almost forgot to fav it, I had to "own" it so bad. Steve's voice is really suited to this rock anthem thing. I am excited to hear him stretching out and Rawkin'. Tastefully delayed and echo'd. I think Steve's voice could be just a little more out in front though, that's just me. The drums are particular well done. Something I can never give enough time or effort to. Kudo's. The lyrics are great, vague, suggestive leaving just enough to the imagination. Great bass and soft synth's. Really huge.
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echoroom said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
... so dumb!
Hey Philip! Last night in Kenya, I'm home tomorrow. I know i told you about this ... it was great to do such a rockin' track ... `i'm getting my voice warmed up for when we do some Black Angels drone tacks! As for the drums, you've no excuse now you've got BFD! Thanks for checking this out ... having worked with you and now Dave, i don't ever wanna try mixing a track on my own again!

Steve

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perceptualvortex said 2088 days ago (September 3rd, 2007)
racerat
Thanks, Philip! I appreciate your kind words, and the suggestion about the vox. It was especially fun for me to assemble and refine the drums, so it's cool that you like them.

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Check out my latest song called Mercury (RPM 6)
said 2091 days ago (August 31st, 2007)
What can I say?
...except "Amen!" Fab collab guys. Timely subject matter. Great chops! Excellent vox. Mondo drums and percussion. This rocks and that righteously!

Be well!


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Vic Holman said 2091 days ago (September 1st, 2007)
all the talent
non-withstanding ... this whole tune is a rock masterpiece. I really enjoyed the subtle ex's. Which I really love to bend my ear into.

Not only did you assemble an excellent cast, but you assembled a nice rock masterpiece!
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said 2090 days ago (September 1st, 2007)
Good JOB !
Excellent collab, the playing sounds good, the vox is great and really fit ! Rock On Guys !

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FEEL said 2090 days ago (September 1st, 2007)
Fantastic Virtualization
You guys make a great virtual band... what a great participation. Really strong composition. Nice!
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bud said 2090 days ago (September 1st, 2007)
Fantastic tune guys
I'd say everyone is at the top of their game on this one. I was commenting to my wife this morning about the amazing collabs happening these days - and here's another one. Steve - your vocals get better with each tune. Killer production and playing. Dl'd and faved.
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moorlandt said 2090 days ago (September 1st, 2007)
oooh yes...
Holy cow, David, this is goood! Reminds me of the fact that I should do some more rhythmic stuff as well. I love the stubborn rhythm, Steve's vocals, the whole drive of the song. This is Bowie at his best... and beyond. Great great great things in my ears.
- walt
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perceptualvortex said 2080 days ago (September 11th, 2007)
moorlandt
Thanks man, glad you like the rhythms in this one. I always like working with interesting ones. Thanks Walter!

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Stun Nutz said 2090 days ago (September 1st, 2007)
All I can say is...
...SOLID work, guys! From the rich layers of instrumentation to the rich layered vocals... this was a rocking sound experience much enjoyed.
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Macaudion said 2090 days ago (September 1st, 2007)
Hum...
Pressed for time, I'll let the dictionary expound upon my feelings about ALL of the performances here...

We'll start with: awesome

adjective
inspiring awe or admiration or wonder; "New York is an amazing city"; "the Grand Canyon is an awe-inspiring sight"; "the awesome complexity of the universe"; "this sea, whose gently awful stirrings seem to speak of some hidden soul beneath"- Melville; "Westminster Hall's awing majesty, so vast, so high, so silent" [syn: amazing]

And you fellas did "amaze":

1. to overwhelm with surprise or sudden wonder; astonish greatly.

And once again, it was all in the right hands of Mirster PV, himself. This guarantee that all of the above will the end result in producing, said, performances!

Since all has been forewarned about the "explicit" nature and content on this page, and If you can say it here, Steve, then so can I... This is
fucking hot!

Thanks guys! Dion

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perceptualvortex said 2080 days ago (September 11th, 2007)
Dion
Webster's defines 'appreciative' as... haha. Thanks for the kind words, my friend, I'm glad you enjoyed this one!

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paralax said 2090 days ago (September 1st, 2007)
swellishes
great song sweet drums I love the rythmic feel nothing wrong with using cowbells and bells or shakers or tamborines they add alot.you got that rythem sound.

Terry
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perceptualvortex said 2080 days ago (September 11th, 2007)
paralax
Thanks, Terry, glad you like my rhythm tracks here!

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Future War Baby (w Drew Kopr, echoroom)
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SlimGirlFat said 2089 days ago (September 2nd, 2007)
OOOH
Yes, I hear David Bowie similarities. A very very polished track in mix and arrangement and I LOVE the vocals. Great use of effects and the Drums and bass RAWK.

Just an AWESOME track..

Slimmie

grid stalker said 2089 days ago (September 2nd, 2007)
Draft me, baby!
We'll ride the Iron Butterfly into battle. Strong performances all around. Exceptional production. Rock on my brother!
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said 2088 days ago (September 3rd, 2007)
nice
great production.
Peter Bauckham said 2088 days ago (September 3rd, 2007)
It's all been said
so not much to add except 'brilliant'.

Peter

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Ed Hannifin said 2088 days ago (September 3rd, 2007)
A jam that turns out to have something to say...
This works on every level for me...it kicks, it rocks, the lyrics, singing, production, everything is strong, strong, strong...

I've just been talking to my youngest stepson about his thoughts about wanting to join the military...this gets right into some of what I've been thinking and feeling...

You guys have turned out something that is really greater than the sum of its parts...

Of course, people are going to be all over the vocals, lyrics and melody, and Steve's ability to phrase Bowie-like and Reed-like without sounding like he's just doing tricks... and people are of course going to be loving the drums, which have some rhythmic component that only someone who can juggle an odd number of balls can count...And I agree with all that... AND I think that that Drew is one of MacJams' secret weapons, and should be shamelessly used by way more MacJammers... A bass player who can do 'busy' or 'laid back', as called for, and who is always the glue in whatever groove he is brought to...

Totally great, guys...

Ed
echoroom said 2087 days ago (September 4th, 2007)
Glue!
Thanks Ed - I've had a lot of good comments, 'cause I suppose the vocal is what people listen to in a pop song, and Dave has had loads of kudos for the drums and the mixing, but you're spot on about Drew the glue - he pulled this all together ... in fact, it was Drew that asked me to get involved. And, there is no guitar on this, other than Drew's bass, which I find astonishing.

In fact, i'm now pleading with him to do some bass for an odd little track I'm doing ... I think this song should ensure that his dance card is pretty full !

steve

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perceptualvortex said 2086 days ago (September 5th, 2007)
Secret Weapon
It's amazing to me the range of tracks that Drew can pull off... listen to his bass on Forbidden Zone for a totally different corner of his gamut. Almost everything that's not singing or drums in this song is him, which is pretty amazing. So yeah, you're sure right about Drew being a secret weapon.

And echoroom's singing was a revelation to me; I mean, he just plain rocks, and it's not easy finding such a quality rock singer. I hope to work with both those guys again.

I'm glad this also works in parallel with discussing the military with your stepson. Thanks for listening, Ed!

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alfalpha said 2088 days ago (September 3rd, 2007)
I really can't...
...add anything more to what's been said on this page...a terrific collab guys! To be honest, what is normally 'not my type of music' has totally aurally slapped me in the face in a 'now I see the light!' way & I'm here to testify! Conversion is complete!

Cheers & Thanks guys!

Alf


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chakeres said 2088 days ago (September 3rd, 2007)
Wow.....
Great piece of work Dave but I always expect great work from you. Nice mix full sound, echoroom nice lyrics and vocal, Drew as always great playing. Boy I sure miss doing this, great piece of music all of you.

JAC
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perceptualvortex said 2086 days ago (September 5th, 2007)
John
Thanks, John, I appreciate that! Send me another rocking guitar track when you can :-)

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digitalnirvana9 said 2087 days ago (September 4th, 2007)
Great Song
And very timely for whats going on today. I'd like to hear a solo in this for about 30 seconds with aggressive guitar and back up. Its a catchy tune and I think this would give even more energy to the song....Excellent!
Peace, Norman
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SickTransit said 2086 days ago (September 5th, 2007)
Ah yes
Another fabulous collaboration featuring Echoroom on vocals... Good job all around, nice counter-reactionary lyrics (I like the line "I'll give you my bionic love, Che Guevara upon my chest"), excellent mix and drum sounds. You guys rock.
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lengold said 2086 days ago (September 5th, 2007)
Fantastic
collaboration - congratulations to all.
Cheers
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said 2086 days ago (September 5th, 2007)
Cool song
Nice Collab guys every aspect is pro, real kick ass song!
ledebutant said 2086 days ago (September 6th, 2007)
What?
What the hizz-ell happened to my comment? I swear I commented days ago, but it's not here, or at least I don't see it.

Hey! Steve said the effenheimer. For a site with a bunch of bad-boy musicians on it, it's really surprising that doesn't happen more often.

I really dig the sounds Drew gets out of that picolo bass and I think my favorite part of your contribution, Dave, is the piano, especially the way you chose to effect it. Very cool. Of course, without question, the production is stellar.

Steve, lyrics make me sick with jealousy, as per usual. If I had ever thought of giving anyone my bionic love, I think I could retire. That's awesome!
echoroom said 2086 days ago (September 6th, 2007)
F++K
We had a quick debate about the use of the f-word (or 'fuckin', as it's known), voted yes, then all threw a telly out the window ... rock n roll!

My love is actually bionic, but not worth $6million dollars (£45.23 more like).

steve

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perceptualvortex said 2085 days ago (September 6th, 2007)
Lisa
Nice to see you here! I don't know what happened to your comment. Maybe it's sitting there on someone else's song page!

Anyway, thank you, I'm glad you like the way this one was produced. I didn't add any piano--I think you're referring to yet another awesome contribution by Drew, the piccolo bass leads (right after "you can't smoke a cigarette" for example). I really only added percussion and a bit o' flute and strings.



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ledebutant said 2085 days ago (September 6th, 2007)
Hmm
It's gotta be the flute, then.


guitapick said 2085 days ago (September 6th, 2007)
Wow...
...this is serious stuff...everything about it...

I've usually got a big mouth...but you've left me speechless on this one, guys. Excellent work!
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spitlogic said 2085 days ago (September 6th, 2007)
The Late 80's
This reminds me a lot of one of my favorite bands Fishbone. The content and the sound are so similar its almost like a blast from the past for me.

I hope you don't take offence to that because I really like it and I really miss Fishbone.
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bonnieprincejohnny said 2084 days ago (September 7th, 2007)
C'est magnifique
Excellent work on the gob iron from your boy. Be lucky.
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Girk said 2074 days ago (September 17th, 2007)
Wow
This is an extrordinary song: Massive in its sound and great lyrics. Reminds me a bit of Bowie with Tin Machine, but better? Yep, for sure. You bet I played it loud... Again and again and again and...
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Girk said 2074 days ago (September 17th, 2007)
Lyrics...
Great, fantastic. Or to quote Jim Bowen "Lovely, smashing, super" and I'm sure you guys deserve more than your "BFH" (Bus Fare Home).

Love the line about how you can buy a mini gun (but) you can't smoke a cigarette. Reminds me of (Lord) Tony Benn when he stated that with the UK smoking ban he couldn't have a few puffs on his pipe in a bar but he could get blindingly comatose on booze. Mind you, he's tea-total!
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apb said 2035 days ago (October 26th, 2007)
I too ..

.. loved this.. and forgot to comment at the time
*doh* Anyways, Steve's vocal does give a hint of Bowie
.. in a slightly futuristic Pearl Jammy .. (can I say that?) .. kinda song.

A sweet combination - sold mix, performances and
catchy tune to boot.

Great collab guys... encore!
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said 2011 days ago (November 19th, 2007)
:) I said before
This just plain rocks - love the tingy-tingy thing on the periphery, nice touch, the keys (esp. piano in parts) are so cool, not to mention the vox and drums, guitar.....

. - Harold
steck said 2004 days ago (November 26th, 2007)
I'm Surprised
That I've not commented here.

I most probably have commented via Echoroom.

Yet another real real classic track David.

No pun intended, but how do you *juggle* with all your talents, or is that a Juggling act in itself? - It most probably is !!

Graham


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davisamerica said 1992 days ago (December 8th, 2007)
right then
thought i had commented before too..cos i downloaded and turned folks on to this...stupid me anyway...yeah this one has wheels and moves! is a great track. so will fav now and apologies really!
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Bob6stringer said 1703 days ago (September 22nd, 2008)
Fanboy
I'm late to this party but I'm glad the store's still open; thanks for the DL, gotta have this one, just gotta. No constructive criticism whatsoever, jsut fanboy admiration here.
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alackbass said 836 days ago (February 6th, 2011)
Future War Baby
Great song, performances, production, and mix!
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