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A soon to become annual visit to my first post here at MJs: Riff'06. Expanding the idea a bit. This could be called: Riff'07, get it while it lasts, soon it'll be Riff'08! lol.
"sounds like a cross of early Faith No More, with a hint of 'the Eels' "Novocaine for the soul" with the glocks and some synths sounded a bit U2ish 'hold me, thrill me, kiss me, kill me'" - APB :o)
Lyrics:
Don't you hear them callin'?
Don't you air them Colin!
Don't chew hair the cauldron.
:o)
Hardware:
Intel Mac Mini 1.66GHz, 2GB RAM
MOTU Traveler Firewire audio interface,
Kawai K1 (controller keyboard),
Gibson Les Paul Studio (original pick-ups)
Rode NT1-A Microphone (+ pop-shield)
Software:
GB v3,
JP4,
Drums on demand,
Ozone 3.
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Slipped my mind &mdash 12/29/07 - 01:24:13 PM
Incredible work my friend ..great arrangment as well !
and its all new specialy the singin ...welldone !! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Feter &mdash 12/30/07 - 10:57:05 AM
.. and thanks for the generous vote, sorry I wiped it, as I forgot to disable the rating (which I'm trying to remember to do for short works in progress, as a personal preference). [ Reply to This ]
first time &mdash 12/29/07 - 01:39:35 PM
i have heard this one...nicely done.
liked the bells. i wished it was longer, with some massive shredding solos...heh.
Allen [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Allen .. &mdash 12/29/07 - 01:53:35 PM
.. I'm shredding on the glockenspiel, fav instrument of the week! ;o) been meaning to try that ever since hearing The Eels "novocaine for the soul"... I happened across a U2ish sound too .. kinda 'hold me, thrill me, kiss me, kill me' or whatever it's called ..lol... no shame me.
Actually, my solos are part of the metal/pop pull .. but
I too wouldn't mind a shredder having 2nd solo, for contrast .. and if you want to lend your pipes/lyrics to this one, I'd be honored. No rush. Bring Chris Cihon in? [ Reply to This ]
too short! &mdash 12/29/07 - 01:47:46 PM
Ah, this is such a lush to listen to, Alan. Damned, why so short? Do I hear some JP4 instruments;-) Yes! And great guitar work as ever. Splendido amigo!
-Walt [ Reply to This ]
Short? &mdash 12/29/07 - 02:12:28 PM
.. it .. er.. slipped my mind? hehe ... I'm writing it faster now, annually in installments, it's very tiring .. lol. Thanks Walter, too kind.. yup, JP4 :o) [ Reply to This ]
Outstanding! &mdash 12/29/07 - 11:01:12 PM
This is great - terrific riffs, and great instrumentation. The mix is spot on, and the guitar sounds very cool. Nice work. Rock on, brother. Nice one. Peace. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks David &mdash 12/30/07 - 03:48:34 AM
.. glad you liked this rocker. The trick was to get the new section to sound 'heavy' like the first section but have no
guitar in it at all.
I've actually noticed a mistook ..shh.. with cymbal placement in the new section and I've a tiny improvement to drop
one note every 2nd and 4th repetition of the glockenspiel/sitar part. [ Reply to This ]
Oh .. &mdash 12/30/07 - 03:51:30 AM
.. and the pop at the very start is something to do with just muting a sample I had there I wouldn't be able to use at MJs... a famous quote from a film. [ Reply to This ]
I remember this one! &mdash 12/29/07 - 11:30:07 PM
Really shows off your guitar talents.
I like the improvements. I even like the vocal effects a little, in the context (and you know how I feel about those!)
I'm loving the glockenspiel again. Can't wait for Riff' 08 :p
I'm very confused by the lyrics, but I'm tickled by them. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Estella :o) &mdash 12/30/07 - 03:33:32 AM
.. it's healthy to re-do an old post every now and again, apply what you've learned and new tools at your disposal, and this one was really short before and pretty naively recorded I felt. Glockenspiel is my favourite instrument of the week ;o)
Vocals are quite heavily reverbed and panned pretty wide (for that distant quality), the lower track is more compressed than the high (to even out the plosives in it) .. and of course, this high, I had to hit it with a hefty amount of tuning correction... they're just a guide/idea really for a 'proper' singer.
Ah, the lyrics .. glad that tickled you heheh. I actually just repeat the first line but it amused me to think like this site that came to my attention recently in the forums: http://www.kissthisguy.com/[ Reply to This ]
Riff'07 is heaven &mdash 12/30/07 - 09:23:48 AM
way way way cool! Love the large guitar sound. Great vocals. Can't wait for Riff'08! great graphic BTW. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Ray &mdash 12/30/07 - 10:39:24 AM
Amazing &mdash 12/30/07 - 03:31:58 PM
love the different textures (glockenspiel?)
Pity it's not longer and that's a damn disturbing picture :-O
Cheers
Dick [ Reply to This ]
Thanks DWL &mdash 12/30/07 - 03:53:56 PM
.. much appreciated. Apparently so: JP4 has it as a glockenspiel .. although I would have said xylophone myself.. and the xylophone they have sounds woodeny like a glockenspiel .. I always thought it was that way round... confusing.
Pretty weird pic that .. I liked it .. suited the mood .. made up of bits of gruesome fish and er .. things (as far as I can make out). I liberated it from here
Next installment, sometime next year... lets not rush things :o) [ Reply to This ]
This sounds &mdash 12/30/07 - 05:59:00 PM
Thanks Len .. &mdash 12/30/07 - 06:11:12 PM
.. I hear ya- I'll come back to it with renewed ideas later. It is is twice as long as the previous version. Time before boredom set in allowed only for teh quality not quantity approach .. I'm also fishing a bit for help .. shh. lol. [ Reply to This ]
i hear it &mdash 12/30/07 - 09:54:11 PM
the faith no more connection. to bad they couldn't keep it together.
Excellent piece, now I'm skipping ahead to the Riff 2012 version. I hate having to wait so long :-) [ Reply to This ]
Niche .. &mdash 01/01/08 - 11:05:34 AM
.. in the market? lol. Actually, it's kinda weird .. that it's transpiring to that 'sound' .. the original guitar riff was written circa '87 .. and quite likely heavily inspired by 'Introduce yourself', out around that time.
Thanks Vic - I'll keep it on the back boiler. [ Reply to This ]
Great Glock &mdash 12/30/07 - 10:45:00 PM
Yeah, you're shreddin the glock alright; I'm partial to all that fingerboard hammering at the start, though. I'll echo the 'too short' complaint, and Feter's arrangement comment. This could really be big.
Cheers, [ Reply to This ]
Cheers SJ .. &mdash 01/01/08 - 11:13:57 AM
Rockenspiel! &mdash 12/31/07 - 02:42:14 PM
I'm glad this is so short. My heart might've pounded out of my chest if it were any longer or louder!
This is great!
Bob [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Bob &mdash 01/01/08 - 11:17:49 AM
.. now I've got the intense bits done .. I'll work on 'easing up' a bit for some new bits. Gives me palpitations too .. observe caution when listening. :o) [ Reply to This ]
you &mdash 12/31/07 - 03:50:41 PM
are right about the Faith No More thing: the guitar shred and the strings and the glockenspiel. i really like this, great job, great experiment. thanks for posting. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Michael .. &mdash 01/01/08 - 11:24:10 AM
Way too short indeed &mdash 01/01/08 - 10:36:13 AM
Great piece love the drum sound the guitars are awesome love the melodies and the strings are a great touch . The glock is like sour cream on a spicy burrito and you voice sounds cool cept I can hear that your using that stupid voice transformer or pitch thing and thats becomming such a cliche of a cliche for me . Your voice is great you need to make it sound robotic . Cool start cant wait to hear the finished song .Oh by the way great picture of yourself up there ; ) [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Benny .. &mdash 01/01/08 - 10:57:52 AM
.. love your food, savoury and sweet comparisons in your comments. The glockenspiel does serve to clear the auditory palette for the next (hopefully) tasty morsel. :o)
Vocals: I'm stretching myself a bit far in all honesty .. really to give a sketch of the little vocal melody/idea. I did 2 tracks- 1 high part, 1 lower harmony .. so I'm actually singing that high .. but I needed a fair amount of the pitch correction to be 'in-tune' - which gives that robotic vocoded side-effect (so it's not intentional) .. if I took it off/lowered the setting .. you'ld go .. "man, stick it back on again!" lol .. if I did it over and over I would get a decent take .. but I couldn't be R'sd spending to much time on the vocals, to tell the truth ..
Oh, on the pic .. you should see me in the morning .. oil of Ulay just isn't working for me. hehehehe ;o) [ Reply to This ]
Lovely! &mdash 01/02/08 - 12:18:46 AM
Rocking but with a good pedigree, this is a georgeous track.... but too short ... keep revisiting this! Love it!
steve [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Steve &mdash 01/03/08 - 02:00:36 AM
Subtle ;) ! &mdash 01/02/08 - 06:23:28 PM
Great sounding production Alan! I really like what you've done with the drum track too - very handy with DoD I see!?
Cheers,
Neil [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Neil .. &mdash 01/03/08 - 02:19:59 AM
.. I went for a hybrid on the drums. Still what original midi track played but I swapped out all sounds to DoD except the closed/open hi-hats (they're still GB midi- as they were proving a nightmare to get a decent sound from DoD single hits (having to cut off the open hits at just the right point to get closes just didn't sound 'right'). It's a simple pattern and something I could just about play myself on a drum kit, makes for a little bit more realism in the drum track. On re-visit I think I'd change the stereo field placement of the cymbal crashes though. :o) [ Reply to This ]
Great sounds &mdash 01/03/08 - 02:35:16 PM
Yeah I hear many influences, but a terrific sound none the less,could last quite a bit longer. Love the voxes.
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Thanks for stopping by .. &mdash 01/11/08 - 04:45:08 PM
.. this one has always been a slow-burner one for me .. with the rhythm riff from '87 .. the lead bits 7-8 years later .. the first (ever MJ) post/upload I even used a midi file from that early 90s time I had saved, and used it to work with GB for the first time ever and provide the drums.
This version is using nearly all of the tools at my disposal now and actually progressing the idea quite a bit further with new parts/ideas... it's coming along, glad you enjoyed it.
I'll get it to song length eventually, rest assured. :o) [ Reply to This ]
nice!!! &mdash 01/04/08 - 02:30:22 PM
cool riffin excellent composition! nice singing . I never heard the original but this is excellent!!! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Tim &mdash 01/14/08 - 06:20:07 AM
.. the old version was my first post to MJs and one of the first songs I tried recording with GB ever, it's cool to
keep for comparison purposes for a while. I like to have a record of comments and how it's progressed so far. Still more to come eventually .. so now you have to remember you've heard it before ;o) [ Reply to This ]
Few people &mdash 01/04/08 - 09:06:37 PM
realize that Yngwie Malmsteen's first instrument was the glockenspiel.On the compilation album "Glockenspiels from Hell" he plays an amazing solo on the song "Glock Around the Clock".
I really enjoyed this song.Can't wait to hear a longer version! [ Reply to This ]
:o) &mdash 01/14/08 - 06:37:09 AM
thanks! I do try .. I'm more of a fan of the eccentric British astronomer Patrick Moore's skills on the glockenspiel/xylophone myself... pity there is little decent youtube footage to reference :o(
Glad to get a new listener: I really liked your Riffage - some country influence gave me a kinda Lindsey Buckingham era. Fleetwood Mac thing at times, and the sitarish bits was awesome. I don't improvise, never have .. admire those that can very much and I can agree with sloparts comment...shows the possibilities with one chord .. wow. [ Reply to This ]
played and mixed by... &mdash 01/06/08 - 12:34:34 PM
... a man who grew up with the doctor who theme tune and a touch of hi-di-hi!!1 loved it!! xoxoxo [ Reply to This ]
LOL - hello campers .. &mdash 01/06/08 - 01:31:21 PM
.. see you in the Hawaiian ballroom for the nobbly knee competition ;o)
.. there be method in your madness Caroline ;o) .. I wonder how many will get your hi-de-hi reference ... they will now :o) .. although I elaborated a little on the usual 3 notes... I think your on to some of my more subtle and subliminal influences.. I feel all exposed lol :o) [ Reply to This ]
very cool track &mdash 01/07/08 - 08:31:42 PM
Alan, super singing. The bells are brilliant. Love the brash guitars. Huge tone.
I watched a little of your home studio on your homepage. Wow, what a remarkable recording area/set up. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Pappa smurf ;o) &mdash 01/14/08 - 08:31:35 AM
..remarkable? Pfft ..it's pretty functional, just what I need :o)
You'll be glad to know I have improved it by putting the monitors on some stands (each made of 6 toilet rolls glued together in a triangle shape - got help from my daughter .. who is still to paint them black :o)) .. oh and I got a nice new LCD widescreen display (great for seeing more of a song at one time), as the other started blinking after being on for 5mins.
I do crave a POD XT Pro for my wee rack... and a bass guitar, then I think I'll be totally happy for quite some time. [ Reply to This ]
awesome song &mdash 01/08/08 - 02:02:54 AM
Thanks &mdash 01/15/08 - 01:35:04 AM
.. your a pretty nifty axeman yourself - and I'm looking forward to hearing how your latest at this time: War progresses ..
/Alan [ Reply to This ]
I caramba! &mdash 01/12/08 - 03:54:45 AM
That was brill! Sure wish it was longer. Still worth the download though. Thanks. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks very much &mdash 01/15/08 - 03:02:52 PM
extremely kind of you to continue listening to my efforts ..
I must find more time to reciprocate or guilt will overwhelm me.. been a bit busy of late, fingers in too many pies... and the odd lasagne. [ Reply to This ]
Pro Quality &mdash 01/14/08 - 02:07:13 PM
You really let it rip on this one. Brilliant dynamics and overall sound.
NICE!!!
LL [ Reply to This ]
Thanks LL &mdash 01/15/08 - 02:43:52 PM
only had a handful of new musical ideas to try with this over the past year since I first posted it (first ever upload here)- so I did in fact spend about the same amount of time on experimenting with Ozone 3 and JP4 (recent aquisitions) and put a fair focus on getting a good oomphy production. [ Reply to This ]
bold and beautiful &mdash 01/14/08 - 04:27:01 PM
The singing along with the ethereal strings gives it such a BIG sound. I can see this expanded in many directions. Like it. So except for the DoD is this all you? Bravo [ Reply to This ]
Thanks John &mdash 01/15/08 - 02:46:23 AM
like Neil points out, I've not often the patience required for more subtlety, very much a 'go for it', 'in yer face' kinda
thing - especially when I was 17, which was when the foundation of this was written. I've mellowed alot since ..
.. any creative suggestions welcome, just send me a note if you prefer.
Oh, and yes apart from DoD loop single hit usage (actually a hybrid on the drums: DoD single-hits and GB midi kit- see above) this is all me: I sing, play el. guitar, did the little synth, strings, bass guit. and glocks with played midi (the bass midi I had done '94 with Cubase on an Atari ST and had saved a standard midi file), and did the production (so far just in GBv3) and used Ozone 3 for mastering. [ Reply to This ]
thanks also .. &mdash 01/15/08 - 02:47:47 AM
Sweet and to the point. &mdash 01/15/08 - 08:56:05 AM
Very concise - the Les Paul sound is especially meaty - did Colin hear them? [ Reply to This ]
Thanks BPJ &mdash 01/15/08 - 02:37:07 PM
.. enjoyed your youtube vids btw ..
So in summary: I got the meat, just need the two veg - and thankfully Colin didn't air them .. :o) [ Reply to This ]
Cool! &mdash 01/15/08 - 03:06:35 PM
Your right, Has some Faith No More qualities for sure.
Didn't hear the first one, but I like what I hear. I just wish it was longer. Are you planning a longer version?
Awesome so far bro. [ Reply to This ]
Wait a min... &mdash 01/15/08 - 03:10:00 PM
LOL &mdash 01/18/08 - 06:00:33 AM
.. your asking me? Mr. 'mind like cheese whizz', Alan collander head .. etc .. lol .. I'll check later if I did Chris ..
Glad you enjoyed this- coming along reasonably well... yup,
I plan a song length version .. er .. sometime. [ Reply to This ]
the stop in this tune was dramatic &mdash 01/17/08 - 11:28:57 PM
and the high vocal really added that special touch.
Totally unique sounds and nice to listen. Like that lite touch at the end.
Thanks for sharing [ Reply to This ]
Thanks very much Bill .. &mdash 01/27/08 - 02:22:30 PM
.. your keen ears spot the little finesses the aging process brought newly to this song from my noisier youth. [ Reply to This ]
hard hitting &mdash 01/26/08 - 09:48:00 PM
real good playing.
Reeling guitar with a great beat behind it.
I thought herd Grace Slick in the vox
cool [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Timothy &mdash 01/27/08 - 02:31:24 PM
glad you enjoyed this.
.. Grace Slick 8Oo.. now your scaring me .. ;o) .. because actually, an old drummer/friend thought "waxing lyrical" had some Jefferson Starship in it .. blimey .. and now singing as high as I can't .. I sound a bit like Grace Slick .. really? .. still in shock ... lol.
Airplane, Starship .. I'll start thinking of some mode of transport .. but uni-cycle or tandem keeps springing to mind lol. :o) [ Reply to This ]
apb &mdash 01/28/08 - 09:47:40 PM
... &mdash 01/29/08 - 09:51:00 AM
very nice &mdash 02/20/08 - 04:24:44 PM
WAAAAAAY too short &mdash 02/24/08 - 01:59:40 PM
I wanted more more more. Was expecting a huge Rock n Roll crash return after the bells. Please keep progressing this one. [ Reply to This ]
Super track. &mdash 03/30/08 - 05:02:48 PM
Hi apb brilliant track great voice guitar mix why was it so short ?
or was the hook if one likes it enough they will put it o repeat on the
ole Ipod. Ok you win download to my ipod. haha
Peace Dee xx [ Reply to This ]
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and its all new specialy the singin ...welldone !!
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