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So, I bought Logic Pro 8 and within 30 mins had made a little tune, kinda loungy, no vocals, but kinda moody. I e-mailed it to Philip just to show him what I'd done, and he sent me it back with guitar and the 'Deep' vocal line (which he sings on this). So I wrote some other vocals, and we backed and forthed this, Philip mixed it (hey, I know my limitations) and here we are.
I really like how this collab developed, and the fact that we both sing lead.
Philip wanted to do this as an 'exquisite corpse', i.e. someone does a bit of the track then sends it on to the next person, but I bottled it ... however, this idea may come to fruition in future.
BTW, 'Deep' is Philips title, as mine wasn't deemed suitable ...
P.S. The lyrics I wrote were greatly inspired by Estellie's 'Metamorphosis'. so thanks Ella.
Lyrics:
Deep (music and lyrics by PVD and SC)
Deep, down deep
I want to believe
Believe in a reason to leave.
Deep, down deep
I've said it all
I'm tired of fighting a broken doll.
People burn like cigarettes
Their scattered ash tastes of regret
They withdraw the sunset.
I forget sometimes.
Father, son and Holy Ghost
Tell me which you love the most
They come to me with Frankensence now.
These days, soaring days
Soaring deep, so deep, so deep.
Did I reach you, did I run true
Now the evidence is weighed?
Did I break love, did I fake love
Now my hand is played?
Screen-lit geeks they will collide
Find love amongst the gigabytes
When you've got no-one, digitalise.
And I've tried to spy this tiny world
But the safety glass is smeared with dirt;
It's hard to love a face like mine.
And these people burn like cigarettes
Their scattered ash tastes of regret
They withdraw the sunset.
I forget sometimes.
These days, soaring days
Soaring deep, so deep, so deep.
Deep, down deep
I want to believe
Believe in a reason to leave.
Deep, down deep
I've said it all
I'm tired of fighting a broken doll.
The century is with me now
The century is with me now
Hardware:
Philips guitars n stuff, my keystation 49e and sm58
Software:
Logic Pro 8
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bowie &mdash 01/08/08 - 04:01:47 AM
Good song. Catchy melody that floats easy into my head. Your vocals remind me pretty much of Bowie. The song is also one that could have fitted well in his collection of goodies:)
I think the acoustic guitar-lines adds breathing air. Everything sounds good!
You both did a great job on this:) [ Reply to This ]
Thin white Steve &mdash 01/08/08 - 06:08:28 AM
Bowies probably my bit - not sure who Philip sounds like???
Thanks man
steve [ Reply to This ]
Smooth operators eh? &mdash 01/08/08 - 04:54:43 AM
Nicely understated.
Excellent vocals, intelligent lyrics and very well produced.
Cheers
Dick
ps read what??
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PS &mdash 01/08/08 - 06:11:01 AM
Read Norman Mailer..... or get a new tailor.
thanks Dick - this is kinda... smooth and adult. Helllooo llladies!
Smoochy stece [ Reply to This ]
Screen Lit Geeks &mdash 01/08/08 - 05:49:20 AM
You have to know how that worbley keyboard delights my senses. The guitar that plucks alongside it has a kinda spanish, kinda jazzy feel to it. Somewhere in between. Great mixture of instruments/voices throughout the entire song. The chirpy piano parts, the smooth Johnny Smith guitar sounds, clever lyrics and your vocals paired up like this make another great song for the Best Of album.
Impressive stuff guys. [ Reply to This ]
It's all geek to me &mdash 01/08/08 - 06:15:30 AM
Heck, just noticed I left the rating on by mistake... ignore.
Yeah, I love the guitar on this. It's an odd kinda song, nit sure what genre or what it sounds like ... a d(r)epressed Michael Bolton????
Wrap your extra arms around it!
steve [ Reply to This ]
DMB &mdash 01/08/08 - 01:02:07 PM
Yup,
You nailed it:
That's what I sound like: Depressed Michael Bolton.... [ Reply to This ]
Very nice &mdash 01/08/08 - 06:15:39 AM
This is a terrific song. Instrumentation is excellent - love the guitar fills and the keyboard chords, in particular. The whole song sounds great - fills the phones with warmth. The lyrics are smart and very nicely done (love the line "Screen-lit geeks they will collide") and the effect is a little melancholy, but truly thought-provoking and memorable. Great performances all round - I love that the vocals range from restrained to emotive. Very cool. Nice work, guys. Peace. [ Reply to This ]
Hey david &mdash 01/08/08 - 11:17:51 AM
Running to catch up with ya these days! Thanks man - dunno how Phil mixed this, as it woulda been way beyond me! [ Reply to This ]
Smooth &mdash 01/08/08 - 06:23:25 AM
You guys really sound good together. Very lush production. The lyrics are amazing..."People burn like cigarettes Their scattered ash tastes of regret" and "I'm tired of fighting a broken doll" very imaginative.
Love the delivery of the song- I always appreciate a strong vocal effort. Very solid all the way through! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks adam &mdash 01/08/08 - 11:43:48 AM
some &mdash 01/08/08 - 07:03:15 AM
collabs, never seem to have any seams. The two of you have created something incredible. As if you were there physically together during creation, incubation and final mix. Its great how both of your parts are perfectly threaded and woven together. Bravo. [ Reply to This ]
Physically together? &mdash 01/08/08 - 11:47:40 AM
Actually, i think my wife does think we're having an affair. Can you have virtual atristic differences?
I think we should slit up and reform in 2010.
Thanks man - love what you did with Metamorphosis. [ Reply to This ]
Great words! &mdash 01/08/08 - 07:29:03 AM
and I expect no less!
Really lush. Do you remember a band called the Adventures? Thought of them, but then went back to "nah, that's Echo!" I'm so used to your vox that it now doesn't sound like anyone else.
Guitar is great, summer sounds in winter - nice!
Another triumph. Collabtastic guys!
Jim [ Reply to This ]
Collabtastic &mdash 01/08/08 - 11:49:13 AM
Nearly as good as poptastic, mate!
I like sounding like me.
Shame i look like me, too.
thanks Jim! [ Reply to This ]
This has got LAYERS of catchy... &mdash 01/08/08 - 08:00:44 AM
I love the acoustic guitar bits, and the minimalist synth pad stuff, and the bass is understated but really right... I think the bass is actually really essential to how the song comes across...
The song is well written in terms of melody and in terms of lyrics, and then nicely recorded... A touch of that 'Ashes to Ashes' feel in there...
And the vocals are terrific...
Ed
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Yeah... &mdash 01/08/08 - 08:09:58 AM
...the Ashes will be my fault!
Actually, i remember a comment you made on Overload, a song Phil wrote that i sung on, saying what a good voice he has... it's always stuck with me, whicj is why i'm so glad we share on this.
Thanks Ed [ Reply to This ]
Down Deep &mdash 01/08/08 - 08:13:14 AM
Perfect, you guys are too good love this I think I could here this on the radio. SO glad to have this on MJ's its a real treat THanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ Reply to This ]
Not Bowie this time &mdash 01/08/08 - 11:24:20 AM
Peter Murphy is who (Steve's part especially) this puts me in mind of.
This is pretty smooth.......... [ Reply to This ]
The passion of Lovers! &mdash 01/08/08 - 11:57:55 AM
Ohh, but I havent got his eyebrows. Or cheekbones.
Thanks for your comments on this, they really helped pull this baby together.
steve [ Reply to This ]
Good song! &mdash 01/08/08 - 11:39:00 AM
nice vocals and well structured all the way around.
love forgotten wasn't love [ Reply to This ]
This is &mdash 01/08/08 - 11:40:17 AM
such a cool sounding production. I am partial to lounges,though this has kind of a cinematic flavor to me. Awesome lyrics as usual. You guys do top notch stuff together. [ Reply to This ]
Cinematic &mdash 01/08/08 - 12:40:30 PM
Odd song, I think. Wide screen lounge?
I really stuggled with the genre... to me its a moody pop song. I really like the lyrics on this I ms admit..kinda internal and evocative.
thanks BH
steve [ Reply to This ]
Biggest Compliment &mdash 01/08/08 - 01:21:41 PM
...is that anything I did could help with the making of this!
I think the rhythms in this are key. The bass and guitar are very rhythmic, and all the rhythms pull and tug each other for this great feel of tension and also swaying. I'm with Bob--that "worbley" keyboard and "chirpy" keyboard are great!
You and Philip are too full of talent. [ Reply to This ]
Well.... &mdash 01/08/08 - 02:00:50 PM
... I'm full of something.
It;s the crushed piano sound - I love it! Its a struggle not to use it on everything.
The people/ guitar strings line in 'Meta' started me off on this lyric, so i owe you .... you have officially inspired me!
lol
steve [ Reply to This ]
Really great &mdash 01/08/08 - 03:02:50 PM
recording this. Seems like you two are a match made............ at MacJam. It sounds really classy throughout;the backing is terrific, but the vocals are really lush and sound great together; compliment each other even. It sounds like a real quality song to me, cheers to both of you, M [ Reply to This ]
Duet &mdash 01/08/08 - 03:20:07 PM
Thanks maurice - I think our voices work really well together - tho' Phils harmonies are better than mine! Hopefully we'll 'duet' more in future.
ta
steve [ Reply to This ]
They do Steve &mdash 01/09/08 - 06:27:57 PM
awesome collab! &mdash 01/08/08 - 03:11:07 PM
one of my favs of yours!
of course, they all are!
really a super, super tune guys!
excellent double lead vox and a groovy vibe to the tune!
simply awesome! [ Reply to This ]
MC jason &mdash 01/08/08 - 03:23:19 PM
Thanks Jason - really appreciate it - I'm a big admirer of Monty California, so that's a great compliment. Though I think we need to post something balls out rocky soon - i keep leadin' Phil down this serious , moody roads!
steve [ Reply to This ]
Deep &mdash 01/08/08 - 04:54:51 PM
Great work singing and all steve you singing just
so cool here ..the deep voice of Philip made groovey
atmosphere the sound bed itself very creative .always
its the best thing to hear here a cool MJ colab KUDOS! [ Reply to This ]
This would sound great live! &mdash 01/08/08 - 05:12:54 PM
Love how song structure evolves sort of starting with bridge/chorus
Great harmonies throughout, and yet another fantastic song. I like your keyboard work its flows nicely.
Steve you went from LE7 to LP8 correct? what do you feel are the benefits so far w/ your limited exposure to LP8?
Look forward to more LP8*ER
_T [ Reply to This ]
LP* &mdash 01/09/08 - 12:20:03 AM
Just listened to your new track - really great, no kidding.
LP8 i think is just easier to use, and arguably the sound quality is better. The screen structure is easier to navigate - i find it a lot more plug n play than LP7. Also ask Phil, as he's mixed all our stuff recently.
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LP8 &mdash 01/09/08 - 01:23:41 AM
I was hesitant to make the switch, but then someone I collab with (hint, hint) forced me into it....It took me all of about 5 seconds to fall in love with the single window interface. It is SO much more intuitive and easy to navigate the windows and menus, etc you use all the time. The new vocal comping feature is worth the upgrade alone. I vote heavily in favor. Those languishing in L7 darkness, come into the L8 light.... [ Reply to This ]
wow &mdash 01/08/08 - 05:18:54 PM
this is really great. every twist and turn is full of great sounds and really engaging melodies. i love that chorus. this would be good in a David Lynch movie. this sounds so good. i'd like to upgrade to Logic at some point, but i think i'll probably have to get a different computer first. i hear so many horror stories about the learning curve, it's encouraging that you just dove right in. [ Reply to This ]
Lynchian &mdash 01/09/08 - 12:27:48 AM
Hey, what a compliment - thanks Michael.
When you load a project, you get preloaded sounds and i used quite a lot of them - this started as a play around and just expanded... like a virus, it just mutated and multiplied!
steve [ Reply to This ]
Kinda *Loungy*? &mdash 01/08/08 - 09:54:40 PM
Perhaps if you happen to be playing The Mos Eisley Cantina. LOL
I, like Ed (ejh), hear a strong *Ashes to Ashes* connection in this song, probably because of the liquid keyboard part.
That aside, it's a very well-done atmospheric piece, nicely performed and produced... very polished. A splendid collaboration on all counts. ;)
--- Joe [ Reply to This ]
Cantina song &mdash 01/09/08 - 12:25:30 AM
I had that cantina song single as a kid - loved it.
Maybe we should cover it.
Ashes to ashes is my favourite song ever, adn i think the keyboard sound may have been inspired by it - liquid is a good description.
Major Steve [ Reply to This ]
very deep &mdash 01/08/08 - 10:11:34 PM
now I have to figure which one of you is deeper.
First the lyrics are deep and dark.
The mood is deeper yet.
vocals digging deeper to the heart.
keyboards and the acoustic work add a light into this tunnel as you two dig even deeper.
well I fell into this deep hole and dug it. just don't kick the dirt in from above.
Kudos gentlemen!
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In a hole &mdash 01/09/08 - 11:57:28 AM
Philips much deeper than me .... I'm a 2m pool with a 6m sign on it.
Not sure who's taller, tough.
steve [ Reply to This ]
Wow &mdash 01/08/08 - 10:26:10 PM
What a great job you guys did. I can hear the Bowie influence for sure.
Nice mix too. Everything sounds so cool. Had to listen to it again.
Frank. [ Reply to This ]
Love the &mdash 01/09/08 - 01:29:35 AM
relaxed feel to this beautifully crafted song. You two are just getting better and better. Another song that sounds perfect to me in every way and I know will become a favourite of mine. It has that 'grow on you' feel to it. Fantastic.
Cheers
Len
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Grows on you.... &mdash 01/09/08 - 12:04:19 PM
.... like a virus (sorry, been watching The Matrix too much!).
Thanks Len!
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Deep &mdash 01/09/08 - 03:18:39 AM
You guys do excellent stuff... I'm a huge fan of yours... Another well done [ Reply to This ]
Great song! &mdash 01/09/08 - 07:41:11 AM
I really enjoyed this!! Congrats on the writing, lyrics, singing, and production!!! You guys created another masterpiece. [ Reply to This ]
Hi Andy.. &mdash 01/09/08 - 11:55:37 AM
... nice to hear from you. hope work aint too bad... one day we'll get that funky song done (and rope dave in!) [ Reply to This ]
Heck yah &mdash 01/09/08 - 12:48:00 PM
Loungy &mdash 01/09/08 - 11:28:49 AM
Loungy suits the two of you. I had noticed the new song yesterday and was mightily ticked off this morning on my walk when I reached for my iPod and realized that I'd forgotten to download it before I left. It's a good thing I hadn't heard it or I would have been more ticked off.
It's a really great song. One of my favorites you two have done. I like the energy here; it's different, more laid-back, less of the typical echo-strut, but with the typical depth and lyrics one could pick apart with an archeologist's toolkit for years and still find new meanings.
BTW, Michael Bolton, my ass. Also, the guitars are gorgeous. [ Reply to This ]
Strut &mdash 01/09/08 - 11:52:04 AM
yeah, my struts in a rut! Grrreat to hear from you lisa! This is pretty laid back and smoochy, with very impenitrible lyrics.
thanks for checking us out (as it were)... hope to hear something from you soon!
steve [ Reply to This ]
Don't you worry &mdash 01/09/08 - 01:14:18 PM
April 13 is first on my list when my life (should) gets back to somewhat normal next week. [ Reply to This ]
Hey lisa &mdash 01/09/08 - 01:39:42 PM
Aargh &mdash 01/09/08 - 03:47:35 PM
Super good &mdash 01/09/08 - 12:50:03 PM
Excellent collab, guys. Every thing about this is super good music, especially the instruments, the writing and singing. And the other stuff. [ Reply to This ]
Hey dave... &mdash 01/09/08 - 01:35:55 PM
. you've covered everything ... must be all good. listened to 'future war baby' loads at xmas - gotta do a follow up sometime!
s [ Reply to This ]
Dig it Steve &mdash 01/09/08 - 01:29:23 PM
Love the mood it sets. I hear a Bowie/Pixies thing going on here.
Strong performance and great singing.....one of your best. Have to DL.
Loved it,
Dave [ Reply to This ]
Digging for fire &mdash 01/09/08 - 01:37:46 PM
Never thought of the pixies, but i totally get it now you've said it!
thanks dave
s [ Reply to This ]
Great collab guys &mdash 01/09/08 - 04:38:02 PM
you're sure on a roll these days - it's so nice when good people find each other. Love the double lead vocals and the laid back production on this one - very tasty - but not too sweet. Excellent! [ Reply to This ]
Find each other... &mdash 01/10/08 - 12:22:51 AM
... hey bud, we're not THAt close, its purely platonic (and bionic).
Loved the new track, byw! [ Reply to This ]
very very &mdash 01/09/08 - 05:16:49 PM
kool......this is so ready for mass consumption....its that good.....excellent singing lots of feel....really diggin this !!!! [ Reply to This ]
Excellent Tune &mdash 01/09/08 - 10:24:31 PM
Really enjoyed this song. Great trance melody with cool beat, great lyrics, and vocals are super. You guys take a bow. Awesome collab! Thanks for sharing it with us!! [ Reply to This ]
hard to shake.... &mdash 01/10/08 - 08:31:44 AM
Steve and Phillip,
You guys have such a great vibe working between you. Fast and efficient in term of generating the music, but not at the expense of quality. Brilliant production and well crafted songs.
Steve- most of the time when I listen to your stuff, Bowie immediately comes to mind. There are a lot of similarities in your phrasings and tonal characteristics... I love the sounds you produce vocally and even though you do have that Bowie-influence, I feel like you're doing it on your own terms and it's not like you're trying to copy him or anything like that. I love your vocal feel, just wonderful timing and expressionism.
That said, I wonder if it is ever frustrating for you that so many people point out the Bowie connection? I know that it is hard to shake that kind analogy... Huy (vocalist for Tiny Man Inside) and I both sometimes | |
I think the acoustic guitar-lines adds breathing air. Everything sounds good!
You both did a great job on this:)
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