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Another try at orchestrating to one of my piano compositions. If you stick it out, it goes BIG. I think I might be addicted to timpani and tubular bells, and probably need to start going to TTBA meetings.
Hardware:
keystone M-audio 61es
Software:
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Beautiful &mdash 02/17/08 - 02:33:48 PM
This is really great... How wonderful... The instruments on this sounds peaceful... You get my thumbs up, for this... I've always dreamed of making classic arrangements on music..... Can learn something, by listen to your music... It's great.... [ Reply to This ]
alimar &mdash 02/17/08 - 02:34:02 PM
missed this :-) otherwise he surely would have mentioned it in his recent forum thread. After listening I may now have to attend the TTBA meetings as well. Wonderfully crafted and performed. [ Reply to This ]
Calm &mdash 02/17/08 - 02:43:07 PM
And a very beautiful song I love it... Thanks for sharing.
Take care
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Kenta [ Reply to This ]
grand &mdash 02/17/08 - 02:45:14 PM
Really nice musical concept here. The chord progressions and orchestration are very pleasing.
A couple of suggestions:
The level of the strings is a bit high; try taking them down a little. They tend to overpower the other instruments, which is easy to do because they're a sustained sound.
You might try varying the overall "texture" of this piece, which is leaning towards being thick.
Every piece of music has a beginning, middle and end, with its own "pacing". On this one, you brought the sounds up to a climax relatively soon, and then it sustained for the rest of the piece. It had nowhere to go from there.
Perhaps build things up more slowly, and shape the piece a little shorter to avoid repetition.
All this being said, I enjoyed listening to this, and am so glad that you're posting here! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Cameron &mdash 02/17/08 - 07:08:27 PM
Your suggestions are always appreciated. I do have a tendency to throw in everything including the kitchen sink, and go big and stay there way too long. This feedback helps me realize I can do something about that! I really don't know squat about orchestrating or mixing, so these comments help point me in the right direction. [ Reply to This ]
love it! &mdash 02/17/08 - 02:50:30 PM
I really like how this builds. You have worked on the EQ since I heard an early peek, the instruments are now more distinct. Good job of panning/separation (still more could be done, especially with the brass, which need a little more "richness"). But I love your touches with the organ, the timpani, and the bells, the bells... love them bells! ;-) The only composition critique I have is many of your parts seem to be in lock-step and all stop/switch on the beat... you may want to have one instrument (violins, or trumpets) hold their note across the barline in a couple of spots to make this a little more fluid.
Overall, a very grand almost fanfare-ish piece.
ttfn,
Drakonis [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Dragon-man &mdash 02/17/08 - 07:11:07 PM
your recent help with panning and the EQ have already made a difference, though I know I have a long way to go. I see what you mean about "lock step". I look forward to your continued critique as I try to figure out what I'm doing here. (What AM I doing here??) [ Reply to This ]
What you are doing here Karen... &mdash 04/17/08 - 05:06:25 PM
Is making SUPERB music! A better question is what am I doing here amongst such serious talent!? [ Reply to This ]
Hey Karen &mdash 02/17/08 - 02:56:05 PM
I like this.....really uplifting and strong. You certainly captured the sense of soaring. Good job. [ Reply to This ]
elevating and &mdash 02/17/08 - 03:01:36 PM
sphereful music that builds very nice and rich...think its a fine piece of music that made me feel good and peaceful. Thanx. [ Reply to This ]
Dreams of Soaring &mdash 02/17/08 - 03:03:41 PM
I really like how it builds from something full of naivete to a powerful piece of music. That's not easy to do. I tend agree with Cameron about the texture and the string volumes. Agreed too about the pacing. Have you thought of bringing it back down--quiter textures, more soloistic sounds at some point, then rebuild? Another orchestration suggestion--move the piano up and octave or even two octaves at some point toward the end to let it cascade over the soundfield? A lot of the texture happens in the midrange of the rendering--a soaring piano could bring it to a higher point near the end? Perhaps consider using a modulatory device, that often helps to create a new sense of direction.
Lots of suggestions, but I really like the piece. It's grand! [ Reply to This ]
thanks Soulima &mdash 02/17/08 - 07:13:08 PM
yes, I see the commonality of these comments - I need to learn to be quiet (at least some of the time). It won't surprise any of you to learn that growing up, while playing the piano my mother was constantly saying to me "STOP POUNDING!!" [ Reply to This ]
Sweet little ditty &mdash 02/17/08 - 03:08:09 PM
The balance sounds very nice between the instruments. That oboe in the beginning is wonderful.
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( 8 &mdash 02/17/08 - 03:17:32 PM
This is a song I could listen to many many times in a row without getting tired ...GIVES energy !!!!!!! I don't vote but its 9&10s for sure ! ThankYou much obliged : ): ) ! Lena [ Reply to This ]
.. &mdash 02/17/08 - 03:21:39 PM
Tubular bells ? I only know Mike Oldfields 8 ) Sally Oldfield was/is GREAT too..haven't heard her for a long time ! Whats TTBA meetings ? timpani?
tx again [ Reply to This ]
Oh &mdash 02/17/08 - 04:48:39 PM
This is a fine piece of music, perfect in every way...Bravo Karen..Bravo... [ Reply to This ]
Dreams of Soaring &mdash 02/17/08 - 05:00:31 PM
Goodness I was listenin to alot of Celtc orch work
last night and as I played this .it hit my heart
so straight,a true heartfelt ..wonderfuly arranged
what a sweet piece ...so elegant piano work ..
thnx alto for sharin sauch gem !! [ Reply to This ]
This is... &mdash 02/17/08 - 05:30:42 PM
...really nice. Very relaxing, peaceful, atmospheric. you can feel the great sensitivity behind.
B [ Reply to This ]
Very full... &mdash 02/17/08 - 05:34:12 PM
... and melodic. Flows like a river. Took me on a very pleasant journey with this one. I have a hard time composing like this. I'm usually all over the place. This keeps me in a singularity sometimes necessary. Nice build up to the calm ending. [ Reply to This ]
definitely soaring... &mdash 02/17/08 - 05:34:38 PM
What a lovely, expansive composition. It just proclaims joy and brightness in every aspect.
I think Cameron has given some good suggestions as far as the strings are concerned, but really...this piece is most enjoyable as it is :)
Thank you for posting! [ Reply to This ]
Some really nice elements here &mdash 02/17/08 - 08:42:11 PM
some of the suggestions here seem really good, but I like the peace and the piece a whole lot just the way it is.
I think you are really lucky to have such positive and constructive comments on your songs because it means that the commentators believe that your talent warrants their time to listen closely and comment thoughtfully. [ Reply to This ]
yes indeed announcer &mdash 02/17/08 - 09:24:20 PM
I'm feeling like a very lucky person today, w/all this generous help! Thanks for your time too! [ Reply to This ]
enjoyed &mdash 02/17/08 - 10:21:36 PM
You really nailed .. &mdash 02/17/08 - 10:47:02 PM
.. "soaring" Karen!
Amazing what can be done with a Mac an GB really isn't it.
This is fantastic - upliting stuff!
Neil [ Reply to This ]
Lovely &mdash 02/18/08 - 01:58:45 AM
Wonderful atmosphere - like made for a movie with a happy end. Beautiful tune! Great work, excellent choice of sounds! [ Reply to This ]
Wonderful. &mdash 02/18/08 - 11:21:18 AM
Hi Karen
This is definitely going to turn into a masterpiece its already there for me
but I am still learning too Wow! love the great build up, stunning the piano was wonderful also.
Peace
Dee [ Reply to This ]
A smashing piece of music...... &mdash 02/18/08 - 12:35:20 PM
This is another piece of excellent classical music.
You are building your skills and things are moving along nicely, from my point of view.
I would still say concentrate most of the time on 'getting things down' and recorded. The correct sounds and dynamics can come in later days. This piece was very effective and I always listen to the music before I think about production.
You have a beautiful style and sound.
Take care.
Paul [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Paul! &mdash 02/18/08 - 12:50:10 PM
Wanderful Track &mdash 02/18/08 - 01:10:29 PM
And now we need to see a movie with this soundtrack...Really appreciated
CharlyDee|C| [ Reply to This ]
Wow &mdash 02/18/08 - 09:36:02 PM
Very emotional and moving. I love the dramatic build up! This might seem kind of silly to you but listening to this reminds me of playing clarinet in high school band. I'll never forget the emotional fulfillment I got out of Classical music. Thanks for posting! [ Reply to This ]
This &mdash 02/19/08 - 11:12:11 AM
just carries one along as though drifting on a cloud. Lovely and calming with those lovely orchestrations. Those timpanis do have a nice lush sound don't they LOL Oh! And I just heard why you like the tubular bells too. This really did come together in a big way. Beautiful, regards M [ Reply to This ]
Truly one of the &mdash 02/19/08 - 09:58:47 PM
nicest recent additions to MJ.
I've really enjoyed every piece that you have uploaded. Was wondering when you are going to be uploading another one. Great pic, such a nice image for this fine tune.
If there was made a country type movie or tv show, what a terrific theme sound this would be.
Thanks for sharing
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Welcome to MacJams &mdash 02/20/08 - 04:19:33 AM
You play beautifully and have a great ear for combining different sounds. This is really quality stuff. If I'd been mixing it (i.e. this is entirely a subjective point) I'd have brought the piano a little higher so that it gently dominates the other instruments. But this is a really fine piece of work with a grand swelling sound. Kudos! [ Reply to This ]
i'm always in awe &mdash 02/20/08 - 09:24:42 AM
of you people that have orchestras in your heads - this music makes me want to act something very dramatic - thank you xoxoxo [ Reply to This ]
beautiful &mdash 02/20/08 - 04:55:00 PM
This is the first piece I heard , done by you, and I think it's beautiful. I read some of the comments about the technical aspects, and maybe they're right, but what is most important to me is the feel and the feel is right!
Very nice!
KC [ Reply to This ]
This shows &mdash 02/20/08 - 11:15:20 PM
Great &mdash 02/21/08 - 12:52:18 AM
wow &mdash 02/21/08 - 04:33:05 AM
I always feel scared in the presence of proper musicians - so I'm terrified here!
Stunning piece of work
steve [ Reply to This ]
nice one &mdash 02/21/08 - 03:56:51 PM
i love your instrumentation and melodies. forget those meetings tho, it's your sound. [ Reply to This ]
Thank you so much &mdash 02/22/08 - 09:17:17 AM
for this lovely piece!
Im rather new (in fact totally new) in trying to express what I hear in music. But I have been reading comments here and there on MacJams so I see that I have to try it!
This is so beautiful!!!
I imagine myself (often Im very full of stress...) just lying in the air, floating around with the music...feels like healing to body and soul :-).
Soft, easy uplifting, going to more power and strength...
I would like a whole record with this kind of music! The cdplayer would run all day long!
A clear favorite!!!
Thanks again!
May God bless you :-) [ Reply to This ]
Triumphant! &mdash 02/22/08 - 11:39:31 AM
Yes it does soar. Very nice peice. Its like now you have a full pallete for your musical expression and you know how to use it. This peice has it all. More, more, more . . . !
Thanks,
Stephen
p.s. what instrument pack do you use? I need recommendations. [ Reply to This ]
Great symphony, &mdash 02/22/08 - 12:02:28 PM
I'm listening again to this one because, as for the finest classical music, you can never taste it with only a quick listening.
As I already told you I'm a Strawisky's fan and this piece is really close to my preferred classical stuff.
Thank you very much! [ Reply to This ]
Addictions &mdash 02/22/08 - 01:32:00 PM
I think some addictions aren't meant to be fixed, especially when they result in such happy music. My seven-year-old daughter was listening and said this sounded like a happy flying song and I tend to agree with her.
I think Cameron gave you some really good feedback, as he always does. I think that holding back on the build might give it more impact. I do like the scale that you work in, though. There's something incongrous in your avatar that radiates peace and gentleness and these great big pieces of music like this and your Choral Stomp that I find really cool and interesting. [ Reply to This ]
Hah! &mdash 02/22/08 - 01:33:05 PM
I hadn't noticed the title before. I guess it really is happy flying music. [ Reply to This ]
Piano &mdash 02/22/08 - 01:33:23 PM
Orchestration is grand, and it does get BIG! But the part I like best is the piano, a very infectious foundation that holds the whole piece together very well.
Thanks
Bill [ Reply to This ]
Beautiful &mdash 02/22/08 - 03:25:15 PM
im late to the party here... &mdash 02/22/08 - 04:38:20 PM
...but better late than never, huh?...haha....was just telling drakonis i was looking for some soothing healing music....this will fit the bill very nicely [ Reply to This ]
I enjoyed &mdash 02/23/08 - 12:06:28 AM
this piece a lot! It really moves your emotions and takes you soaring as the title suggests. Thanks for sharing it with us!
chip [ Reply to This ]
Really nice &mdash 02/23/08 - 06:18:37 PM
And, yes I'd agree with almost everything stated here to tweak it into an even better arrangement. I'd personally love to hear that piano brought out a bit more.
I personally have an addiction to the Chinese gong. Just like 'real' drugs, the more you use it, the less effective it becomes at eliciting the 'high' you were desiring in the first place. However, I don't hear an overabundance of either tymp or tubular bells here. [ Reply to This ]
sound &mdash 02/24/08 - 01:03:41 PM
right then &mdash 02/24/08 - 09:13:08 PM
Simple beautiful work. &mdash 02/25/08 - 12:24:23 PM
I cannot believe that a studio head hasn't scooped you up for movie soundscapes.This is just so solid and soaring.How refreshing to hear this and to have been given to us here at MJ's to enjoy.Just a wonderful piece of moving emotion and skill.
Blessings, [ Reply to This ]
and just back for seconds &mdash 02/26/08 - 08:46:12 AM
Beautiful music there my friend &mdash 02/26/08 - 07:08:13 PM
That is beautiful piano playing .
I also love timpani like you do , I may see you there at a TTBA meeting. :-}.
This would be great for film.
Again you play beautifully.
Great composition , its an honour to receive your attention .
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Beautiful music there my friend &mdash 02/26/08 - 07:09:15 PM
That is beautiful piano playing .
I also love timpani like you do , I may see you there at a TTBA meeting. :-}.
This would be great for film.
Again you play beautifully.
Great composition , its an honour to receive your attention .
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Tymp works for me :o) &mdash 02/26/08 - 11:24:17 PM
Lovely work here! Grand and flowing. Full of life. More please!!
All the best,
Doug [ Reply to This ]
Wow &mdash 02/27/08 - 06:53:02 AM
I wanted to come by and check out your latest and My Goodness! You are the one with all the talent! This is gorgeous! This is full of emotion and beauty throughout. What talent and creativity you have. Thank you for sharing this jewel with us. Truly love it!
Gail
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... &mdash 02/29/08 - 11:50:52 AM
um, wow. I dont know a whole lot about orchestration and whatnot, but my ears (and heart) tell me this is absolutely incredible. Please don't change a thing. I liken this to the middle section of Holst's 'Jupiter', my favorite song in this kind of genre. Very well done. Thank you so much for sharing. You just got a new fan. [ Reply to This ]
Very Nice &mdash 03/02/08 - 03:37:57 PM
haha, whats to be said that hasn't been said already? Very nice piece, thanks for sharing!
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WOW! &mdash 03/05/08 - 08:03:58 AM
WOW! This is marvelous piece of music Master! One of the very best music composition ever heard here. You seem to be a great addition to that site sir. This is truly GRAND piece by all means. Deepest bows and respect sir.
Take Care
- Yeman A. Al-Rawi [ Reply to This ]
Dreams of Soaring &mdash 03/05/08 - 08:38:51 AM
I'll chime &mdash 03/07/08 - 09:46:54 PM
in with magnamam for president! beautiful piece magnatone! lovely and uplifting. We can all learn compositional structure and crafts(woman)ship from you! [ Reply to This ]
Fabulous &mdash 03/08/08 - 09:55:52 PM
This reminds me of Neil Hannon and Joby Talbot of The Divine Comedy
Perhaps you should approach stevel to sing over one of these pieces...
:-)
More please
Bravo [ Reply to This ]
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