After All Granular Re-Mix (w/LeDebutante)

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I just got this granular synthesis plug in (KT - it's free), and i was playing with it, so I decided to do a remix of LeDebutantes first track "After All." Originally it was just for fun, but then I asked for her blessings and the Gb file. I left most of what she did originally as it was pretty sparse and then i ran a piano sound through the granular synthesizer for all of the noises (except for a track of FM synth for bell like sounds).

I think it's a really pretty song, and Lisa is such a pleasure to do stuff with; so this was all fun for me. One question: is the bass too loud?

heres the original: http://www.macjams.com/song/10741

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Hits: 3184
Comments: 45
Fans: 32
Plays: 140
Downloads: 101
Votes: 13
Uploaded: Mar 03, 2008 - 01:52:12 PM
Last Updated: Mar 03, 2008 - 01:59:32 PM Last Played: May 08, 2013 - 01:19:07 PM

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thanks Lisa (1)

Hardware:

intel mini mac

Software:

GB 4, free remedy synth, KT granular synth, itunes for the endless bounces

Comments

EZamor	EZamor said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	wow. this is absolutely beautiful. i don't know what else to say--i'm gobsmacked! cheerz, -=ez Check out my latest song called Chrysta Bell - The Truth Is [EZamor Mix]

michael2	michael2 said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	thanks so much this song is really great, so i had an easy time of it. i just like making noise, so i had a blast. thanks for listening. Check out my latest song called yes you told me (that you're cynical)

dirigent	dirigent said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	After all - granular remix Lisa's voice is shining and so does your track. Most beautiful piece of music, congrats, bravi!! Check out my latest song called Piglets in Wonderland

michael2	michael2 said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	thanks dirigent lisa's voice is so sweet on this song, that you could put it over pretty much anything and it would sound great. for a minute i almost did a mix of just her voice and the electronic sounds. thanks so much for listening. Check out my latest song called yes you told me (that you're cynical)

drakonis

drakonis said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)

Strawberry fields!
Definite SF instrumentation vibes here... I like the weird squeaks that are added (though I love the original too.) There is definitely something *wonky* with the EQ, though, there's a strong midrange peak that causes a bit of boominess, not that the bass is too strong, I think its just that there's a low-ish midrange area that needs softening...
Ah, I love this song...
ttfn,
Drakonis

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michael2

michael2 said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)

wonkiness
good word. i need to work a little at being able to actually get something from the EQ. i tried checking out the visual EQ and there wasn't a lot of bottom end, so i was afraid to touch anything EQ wise. Lisa used a pinhole mic on this so there were some weird things vocally that weren't really apparent until i would try a certain reverb or something.

i did have a lot of fun composing the sound bits though, and just getting to know the song better. thanks so much Drak.

Check out my latest song called yes you told me (that you're cynical)

Nick_Flash	Nick_Flash said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	Nice arrangement The synths are great and the whole thing just flows together perfect. Very soft and beautiful. Nice work. Check out my latest song called Questioning Authority

michael2	michael2 said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	thanks Nick the song was already really great, and so I had to just keep reminding myself not to go completely over the top with noise. lisa is a tremendous talent, i think she has a really sweet charm filled voice. it would have been hard to mess this up too bad. thanks for listening. Check out my latest song called yes you told me (that you're cynical)

echoroom	echoroom said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	oooh i'd forgotten how good this track is. The soundbed really works with Lisa voice. I do agree the bass is maybe a tad loud, tho' that sounds like a choice rather than a mistake. Lisa in wonderland - great stuff guys. Check out my latest song called Sweet Isolation

michael2

michael2 said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)

thanks Steve
lisa in wonderland; love that. i really think her voice sounds full of naive wonder on this song, so i wanted to put some strange disorienting sounds behind her. i actually turned the bass down, but the EQ section always confuses me when mixing. maybe i need to focus on that for awhile. thanks so much for listening.

Check out my latest song called yes you told me (that you're cynical)

Feter	Feter said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	After All Granular this is just awesome my friend .LeDebunte singing surtely amazing but the arrangment just set this beauty into a complete picutre of art .. wonderfull KUDOS! Check out my latest song called Roll with it

michael2	michael2 said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	thanks Feter you are too kind (ALWAYS). Lisa's voice is the glue that holds this collage together, but i hope that the sprinkling of glitter that i threw on it added something too. thanks for listening. Check out my latest song called yes you told me (that you're cynical)

Jim Bouchard

Jim Bouchard said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)

odd
I wonder why it got such a muffled sound. Maybe something to do to endless iTunes bounces. I'm obviously really familiar with this song, having done my own version recorded with banjo, and also re-recorded it with ledeb with all new music. I like the KT Granular synth plug... I've used it a lot, and it's pretty wacky and sparkley. Something is odd in the guitar loops since they sound so bassy. Nice version though.

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michael2

michael2 said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)

hey jim
thanks for listening. yeah i can't figure it out. i did bounce the guitar loop once, but i don't know whats going on. i tried it on my headphones and it sounds fine, in my guitar it was a little bassy, at work it sounded fine. maybe that should be the next plug in someone makes, something that mimics different stereo setups for when you're doing a mix. thanks for listening.

Check out my latest song called yes you told me (that you're cynical)

	said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	Bass can never be too loud... b

michael2	michael2 said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	thanks bryn for the listen and the vote of confidence. Check out my latest song called yes you told me (that you're cynical)

	said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	this is coming from someone who once stuck their head in the bass bin of the PA system at an Orb gig...the reasons why I felt compelled so to do are the subject of legend...but thats another story very nice song michael and lisa

gail60	gail60 said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	great job This is a very good song. I loved everything about it. I dont think the bass is too loud at all. In fact, No complaints about it at all. Thanks for sharing! Awesome collab! Check out my latest song called Ed - Forever in our hearts

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	nice... ... to hear a different twist too this. like that synth effect. cool. regarding bass, didn't seem to loud through my headphones, but i would cut the eq at 76hz. that helps to tighten it up a bit. Check out my latest song called Darkest Skies

	said 1907 days ago (March 3rd, 2008)
	Nice song However I thought you at some points over road Lisa's vocal, to bad because what you did was very appropriate just to loud in spots which made me work to hear her lyrics...

rsorensen	rsorensen said 1907 days ago (March 4th, 2008)
	awesome wonderful sound and great synth work. i want that plugin! this is worth a bit of a better balanced mix because I agree some of the vox are a little washed out, but it's definitely close to perfection. well done! Check out my latest song called Again

jiguma

jiguma said 1907 days ago (March 4th, 2008)

Nice version Michael ..
.. although I still prefer the original. Can a bass be too loud? ;)

I agree with Jim in that it sounds like theres a muddy bottom in there, but I don't think the bass is the culprit - just sounds like the guitars. It's a definition problem in that the bass seems to be right through everything.

Bloody fine song though! Maybe worth a remix!?
Neil

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datafunk	datafunk said 1907 days ago (March 4th, 2008)
	oooh wonderful track Michael lisa, love that granular sound, easy going beat but sure rawks. have to listen to the original now. and btw, I love your new avatar ^^ Check out my latest song called Dr Lioli vs the seven blender army (feat Dr Lioli as himself)

Mcboy	Mcboy said 1906 days ago (March 4th, 2008)
	very creative use of synthesis....it adds a dramatic and floating quality/feeling to the vocals.....bass sounds fine in the mix......really like the sparse ambiance ans pacing......bows! Check out my latest song called Bluesphemy (MJRF 2010)

davisamerica	davisamerica said 1906 days ago (March 4th, 2008)
	right then michael this is beautiful ... kinda has a garfunkel feel but you and lisa have made a very original and wonderful piece here. i love this guys .... absolutely love this Check out my latest song called 12

markoo	markoo said 1906 days ago (March 4th, 2008)
	Oh yes Another great mix Michael. Lisa's got a great voice and this interesting delivery of the song really enhances it. More to come no doubt. Check out my latest song called Secret

said 1906 days ago (March 4th, 2008)

i agree with drak
try running two identical tracks of the same bassline, with one track a higher, more bright string or rock tone, and the other a deeper, hip hop, or modern rock bass tone. you can get the best of both worlds that way. if it is a keyboard bassline, do the same with two tracks, but use the eq to take out all of the lower mids and boost the highs in one track, and boost the low end on the other, then use the volume conrtols to feathe rin both tones. you might like the results. really good song, BTW...happy one year anniversary, brother
Allen

Kenta_and_Linda_Rocks_together	Kenta_and_Linda_Rocks_together said 1906 days ago (March 4th, 2008)
	Beautiful Hey! guys this is so beautiful I listen with tears in one's eyes. Thanks my friends you have done a song who really hit my heart feelings. Take care -- Kenta Check out my latest song called Dark Winter

Moviz	Moviz said 1906 days ago (March 4th, 2008)
	lovely and very mysterious sounding. It is indeed a great song and with a great treatment both vocally and instrumentally... just love the orchestra/ synth combination, great song, regards M Check out my latest song called Shine Your Light

	said 1905 days ago (March 5th, 2008)
	Great! Very nice song, Linda have a great vocals and you did a really good job with the instruments here! Enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing Mike! Take Care - Yeman A. Al-Rawi

	said 1905 days ago (March 5th, 2008)
	Sorry! Oooops .. Sorry, I meant Lisa not Linda! Enjoyed again .. Thanks for sharing!

guitapick	guitapick said 1905 days ago (March 5th, 2008)
	This song... ...really got to me when I first heard the original...brings it right back to me on this one, to...fine work... Check out my latest song called 'Cuz I Can

	said 1905 days ago (March 5th, 2008)
	Great It's a great song... Good strings on it... And what a beautiful melody... Good effects in this song.... Great...

Grathy	Grathy said 1905 days ago (March 6th, 2008)
	Very interesting.... Nice effects on this...great vocals. Transports me... Check out my latest song called Freeway Ants

jgurner

jgurner said 1904 days ago (March 6th, 2008)

Beautifully done
This is definitely my favorite tune from Lisa and her original version has a charm that just never was quite achieved in any of the remakes or covers (even though they were all excellent and I loved 'em). You've managed to keep that charm and to enhance using a light touch. It works really, really well with the simple, clean nature of the tune. Great to see it remixed with such a caring touch.

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bud	bud said 1904 days ago (March 6th, 2008)
	Great collab - with you two what could go wrong? I'm cool with the bass - and I really like the snyth stuff. Gotta check out Granular. Excellent job Lisa with a pinhole mic. Check out my latest song called ditto

lavalamp	lavalamp said 1903 days ago (March 7th, 2008)
	Loved what you did! Her voice sounds beautiful on this. Michael, loved what you did with this. A job very well done my friend. BTW,She sounds like Dido, don't ya think? LL Check out my latest song called A Funky Little Thing

	said 1903 days ago (March 7th, 2008)
	I love the synth you say its free.. I think Pink Floyd would have loved that. But they did it the hard way. Just Kiddin an over all great atmospher you have created here. Great remix and collab . I think its official you are the king of collabs!

ledebutant

ledebutant said 1903 days ago (March 7th, 2008)

Michael
Thank you so much for the beautiful work you did on this. I've told you privately how blown away I am, but I really do think I should say it here, that I'm just amazed at the magic you created with the extra sound and the changes you made in the production. It's hard to fathom that the vocal came from me kneeling on my office chair to get my voice as close as I could to the pinhole mic, all the time clutching the desk so I wouldn't roll backwards (oh, the things we do for art). You made it sound so much better.

It's such a gift that anyone would ever want to revisit any of my songs, but especially a musician as creative and wonderful and easy to work with as you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

My favorite part is the little bit of piano you added between the first "after all what is love for" and the second before the strings come in. It's such a nice detail and you added so many. I know this arrangement like the back of my hand because I still haven't written that many songs all by myself, so I don't have that many clogging up my brain, so I hear everything you did and appreciate it so much.

Thank so much to everyone who commented and had such sweet things to say, as well. Michael is such a great gift to our community. Plus he looks great in fishnets.

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Alannah	Alannah said 1903 days ago (March 7th, 2008)
	I'm a big fan ... .. of any man who looks good in fishnets ... but also a great fan of M2s work ... this is great ... but then the original was a great piece to work from ..... oh how I enjoy listening to the tinkerings and retinkerings .... Check out my latest song called Street People (Anomalous w/Alannah)

Dj French Toast	Dj French Toast said 1902 days ago (March 8th, 2008)
	Wow great remix Mike ....very gental and beetles esk Ledebs voice is wonderful ...great song Check out my latest song called Sweeter no doubt (Beat by Sweet 79)

magnatone	magnatone said 1900 days ago (March 10th, 2008)
	After All This is so GORGEOUS!! I'm listening to it for the 2nd time, and I may not stop there. What a wonderful achievement - to the ipod!! thanks Check out my latest song called Blind Love (Seeing Heart) - Orchestral Version

timothy devine	timothy devine said 1899 days ago (March 11th, 2008)
	hey Mike This song is so cool Nice mix nice sounds man after all... t Check out my latest song called Inside of You

Heightened	Heightened said 1897 days ago (March 13th, 2008)
	Uuuu......... unbelievably brilliant!!! Wow! Check out my latest song called Caldari

gregd	gregd said 1891 days ago (March 19th, 2008)
	Cool new toys . . . you're turning me on to so many new pieces of software: GleetchLab, Remedy, what next? Thanks for finding all of these slick noisemakers. Besides, you make neat sounds with them too. -g Check out my latest song called 08nov08

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Name: michael2
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