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Last Updated: Aug 20, 2008 - 09:48:20 AM


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Description:
This is a musical story of the Turkish invasions into Europe, specifically Ukraine.
This piece is actually only one song from a trilogy about the history of Ukraine I am trying to compose at the moment.
Basically, the Turks would invade from the south and march across modern day Romania and the Black Sea.
The history of military music often comes across the expression ’Turkish music’.
What it actually means is the campaign music of the Janissaries.
Sultan Orkran (l326-l359) was the first to employ Janissaries as his personal guards.
The word is derived from two Turkish words: veni (new) ehir (army). Strictly speaking, "Turkish music" is synonymous with the characteristic sound and rhythm produced by kettle drums, cymbals, tambourine, triangle and the Schellanbaum or "Jingling Johnny".
The purpose of such clashing noises was not merely to turn their own warrior wild but, primarily, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemy with the ear-splitting row.
This type of martial music was heard early on in Europe, during the Turkish wars of conquest in the West.
This song is simply meant to have a "Turkish" or "Arabian" feel to it.

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Invaders! &mdash 04/07/08 - 10:42:30 AM
Wow, this really does have a cinematic feel to it! Thanks for your description, it gives the music much more meaning, and that history is extremely interesting. Congratulations on this huge work!

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Thanks &mdash 04/07/08 - 11:51:03 AM
for the encouraging words.
I am waiting to record a real Soprano singing the vocal melody.
I think a real human voice would add a lot of power to this song.
Cheers!




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nice orchestration work here! &mdash 04/07/08 - 11:49:43 AM
Enjoy the feel you get here... I can imagine an encampment on the march. There's a lot of stuff going on here, and you managed to keep things quite clear, even in the full passages, no small feat of mixing, excellent! I liked the intro "phonograph" of a Russian sounding theme, overpowered by the impending drumming and coming of the Turks.

While listening I started making up this terribly esoteric pun about how the Turkish bands would play for such long un-interrupted periods, they would start playing slightly out of tune by the time they got to the enemies, and would often be so out of breath, they'd collapse on the battlefield... falling into what became known as the "Turkish Coma". Later, people referred to this slightly out-of-tune playing as the "Turkish Comma", and forgot its original origin (Go look up "Turkish Comma"!) :-) There, that's my made-up history to battle your real history.

I like the unusual harmonies and strong rhythmic drive in this. You could probably make it twice as long and it would still work, by saving some of the builds and working them in more slowly. I liked the little touches, the female singer, chorus, etc.

ttfn,
Drakonis



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I'm so glad... &mdash 04/07/08 - 11:58:21 AM
that you identified the intro as a "Russian - Soviet" sounding phonograph playing the melody as the Turks march closer.
I was worried that no one would pick up on that!

btw, I looked up "Turkish Comma" and you are totally right, it is indeed a musical phenomenon when music gets slightly out of tune. :-)
Thanks Drak

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Drak, You sparked my interest... &mdash 04/07/08 - 12:23:32 PM
and I did more research about the Turkish Comma.
I was hasty and replied to your comment too soon.
So, I did more music research (which I love!).
Apparently, the Turks recognize four different sound intervals in their musical scales.
They divide their octave into 53 microtones. Meaning that each whole tone is subdivided into nine equal parts, each called a comma (koma in Turkish).
A comma equals exactly 22.6415 cents.
Cents: The Western Modern Logarithmic scale divides the octave into 1200 cents, meaning that each semitone is worth 100 cents (thus whole tone is 200 cents).
So, the result is a lot more notes are available in Turkish and Arabic music than in Western music.
That's why we hear all those semitones and "in between" notes in Turkish music.
Thanks for bringing out the bookworm in me, Drakonis!

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EXACTLY! &mdash 04/07/08 - 01:08:45 PM
I was *hoping* it would spark interest and make you and others curious and look it up... awesome! Next week, we will talk about herbal remedies for the "melisma"! As for the Russian music, I guess it comes from me listening to lots of Russian Cossack music... and my favorite "Carol of the Bells" is an ancient folk song from the Ukraine. Anyway, great work here.

ttfn,
Drakonis

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Carol &mdash 06/17/08 - 02:52:12 PM
Apparently Carol of the Bells is not that ancient but it is Ukranian. I know a guy who knows a guy who wrote that song. It was actually an assignment for his music theory class. That is what I have been told anyway.

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..... &mdash 04/07/08 - 11:57:13 AM
this is great love the history there is a part in there that reminds me of a cartoon or something that i cant place exactly but i hum it a lot at du dud du dud du duu duu something like that.. wish i could figure out what its from cuz i always have that sound stuck in my head. i know it's supposed to strike fear but i can't get over that theme song sound that i never seem able to place. loony tunes perhaps? maybe thats it. ne ways nicely put together

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Looney Tunes? &mdash 04/10/08 - 03:28:06 AM
haha, ok, I never thought about Looney Tunes when I was writing this one.
But that's exactly why I post here.
Thanks for listening.

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History and art &mdash 04/07/08 - 12:07:57 PM
Interesting and enjoyable.

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:-) &mdash 04/10/08 - 03:29:20 AM
Thank you sir.



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Invaders From The South &mdash 04/07/08 - 02:48:10 PM
dramatic ...well done ..good history reading
yes I read that about mamluki era and their
use of music at their own battles .something
I read at the book of C .Sachs !
thnx for sharin !

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Cool &mdash 04/17/08 - 01:27:24 AM
I will have to check out that book by C .Sachs.


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Lovely sounds &mdash 04/08/08 - 05:59:14 PM

Well produced loved it.
Peace Dee.

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Lovely Dee &mdash 04/17/08 - 11:44:09 AM
Thanks for the kind words, Dee.
I'm so glad you noticed the attention to detail to the sounds used.
You rock!

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Wow! &mdash 04/24/08 - 01:53:55 PM
Bravo and Encore!

A tour de force!

Be well!

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another great piece! &mdash 04/24/08 - 02:55:30 PM
amazing...love it! very good soundtrack series. once again, great mix of sounds. i love the "phonogragh" at the beginning...really fits! can't wait to hear this with vocals!

age
-sons of hypnos

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Sounds &mdash 05/09/08 - 06:15:11 AM
excellent to me and I enjoyed the historical music lesson too, regards M

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dark &mdash 05/09/08 - 11:12:33 AM
very cool melodies. nice piece!

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Ah thanks &mdash 06/08/08 - 10:30:55 PM
I just saw your nice comment and wanted to say thank you.
I'm so glad you liked it.
Stay tuned because I just had a real Opera singer (Soprano) sing the choral bits and I'm going to repost it soon.
:-)

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