...is just jarringly powerful in this composition. I applaud you for hanging in with the dissonance. Your creative orchestration--especially the percussive elements--really drive hard and compellingly... What? So short? I was just getting wound up. ... Now I am wondering where you could take this. Is there a tune, a theme of some design, to pull this along further?
(I don't understand what this has to do with Gem, but I do like the possibilities you have started with here. And I don't understand why you're not getting more hits. I'll be marking you as a favorite because I think I like what's going on in your creative imagination.)
Peace.
Paul

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...is just jarringly powerful in this composition. I applaud you for hanging in with the dissonance. Your creative orchestration--especially the percussive elements--really drive hard and compellingly... What? So short? I was just getting wound up. ... Now I am wondering where you could take this. Is there a tune, a theme of some design, to pull this along further?
(I don't understand what this has to do with Gem, but I do like the possibilities you have started with here. And I don't understand why you're not getting more hits. I'll be marking you as a favorite because I think I like what's going on in your creative imagination.)
Peace.
Paul

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...is just jarringly powerful in this composition. I applaud you for hanging in with the dissonance. Your creative orchestration--especially the percussive elements--really drive hard and compellingly... What? So short? I was just getting wound up. ... Now I am wondering where you could take this. Is there a tune, a theme of some design, to pull this along further?
(I don't understand what this has to do with Gem, but I do like the possibilities you have started with here. And I don't understand why you're not getting more hits. I'll be marking you as a favorite because I think I like what's going on in your creative imagination.)
Peace.
Paul

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Paul - a lot of hits are nice - but getting feedback from some of the excellent composers on MJ is even nicer. I'm especially pleased to be 'faved' by you as I value your insight, especially after listening through a number of your works. This piece is one of a number of short pieces that perhaps work better in conjunction with one another. I'm not quite ready to try a larger work - but someday I hope to tackle a Sonata as you are doing - perhaps Cello. Thanks again for listening!

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ooh - very cool! The tension in here is so thick you could cut it with a knife! The occasional relief is welcomed (by me at least). Very cool use of percussion, though it gets a bit drivingly jarring to my ears - I'm kind of a wimp though. You clearly have a lot of talent with orchestration and composition. I agree with Paul, I wish this was longer. Keep it up!

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I find that when doing electronic classical, it's easy to do the lilting and melodic, and much harder to get the rhythmic and contrapuntal - especially at volume with full brass. It does get a bit jarring - which tells me I have more work to do in this area. As always, thanks for your support.

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Branching out. I can dig it. Very nice piece here. The length was fine despite what others may say.

It was enough for me to get the taste of it. I think it would work best as a soundtrack.


LL

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I understand the criticism regarding the length. I am normally verbose - but these were intended as short pieces - teases if you will. Thanks for backing me!

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i can't believe how good you are with the classical stuff. i'm completely envious. i love 20th century classical, but never attempt it as I don't feel i have the vocabulary to pull it off. you can, and with much style.

i have a border collie named Penny. I LOVE HER

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and I detect some classical devices in your pieces - many of which I have found enjoyable. I think you could do it very well!

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I like the way this music breathes
Parts of it put me in mind of the 6 feet under sound track which I think is brilliant
Nice contrasts here

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I will have to listen to that soundtrack now.

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really liked this one. Brilliant in fact!

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You are good for my esteem. Thanks for your kind comments!

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Doing orchestral stuff is very tough and you have a really nice start here. I really like the contrast and the dissonance.

The main things I am hearing deals with reverb and instrument placement. You have to remember where each instrument in the orchestra sits (both on stage and in the mix) The brass is behind the strings and the winds. Percussion is in the back. But in your mix, it sounds to me like everyone is sitting next to everyone in a straight line. I don't get a very good sense of depth. Also, it seems that you have a very wide stereo field. The brass/winds are panned mostly right and the strings/percussion mostly left. In a real orchestra they wouldn't be so hard panned.

The only other thing is the instruments start to get muddy and too much on top of one another. You need to carve out a sonic space for each section or instrument. Again, I think you are limited by Garageband. But this is a function of eq and verb. I think the biggest improvement you could make is to graduate up to Logic Express. You really have some great ideas and I think they could really shine with some more flexibility in your software.

Lest you think I am just tearing your work apart, I think you have a really great foundation to work with. I know how difficult it is to achieve what you are going for (at least what I think you are going for). I still am learning a lot as I post music and listen to comments. Please take my comments as constructive and not just mean.

Keeping experimenting. This is good stuff.

Kayle

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Your advise is very helpful and I am really learning about the mixing process as I go. Getting field depth is my next challenge - and as you've said - the mix is too wide and flat. I plan to get Logic this summer and switch to that. I like the simplicity of GB - as I hate reading technical manuals - but I've tapped out the software potential fairly quickly. I am going to familiarize myself with your work - as I don't know you yet. If you get time, I would value your feedback on my other orchestrated pieces. Thanks again.

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Misread your name - not good!

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I can totally see an energetic border collie racing across a field chasing some poor rabbit or bird. i think this would be a perfect soundtrack to a short film - it has the movement of the collie, but the dissonance of the chase and death - with the perfect pounce at the end! I agree with Kayle, the panning/placement of instruments seemed a little off in my headphones. But overall I think it's a great little piece. As a french horn player, I'm all about the brass. Dude, guess paul had alot to say! lol gotta love macjams and the multiple post trolls. Thanks for sharing this!

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I'm working on placement and panning - it's an ongoing education and experiment. I think very few pieces get exact orchestral verisimilitude - but some get closer than others. Perhaps a switch to Logic might help. Love your stuff by the way - and hope to hear more of that French horn!

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Hi Luna Trick Wow!! Blew me away. Very pro sounding.
it was brilliant. Thats what I think/ Wonderful production.
Hope your feeling ok.

Peace Dee xx Your Mancunian Freind :)

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Glad you liked it. Life is good - and the music will flow!

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