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The Crying of Eve #3 (First Draft) by Reinholt56 [Email]
Genre: Experimental

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Last Played: May 21, 2008 - 09:33:56 PM
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Uploaded: May 02, 2008 - 03:58:35 PM
Last Updated: May 02, 2008 - 03:58:35 PM



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Keywords:
Despair (12)suffering (8)crying (13)Eve (5)humankind (1)victims (3)Tibet (5)oppression (6)lack of freedom (1)
Description:
This is really an upload for comments, not a final mix.

The idea is for a piece of music that's aimed at the suffering of humanity over the years, with the people of Tibet being at the front of my mind as I put things together.

The piece is going to be a classical piece with various orchestra instruments/colours and choir.

In this first working version the choir is substituted by a Moog, to try to emphasize the anguish and also the contrast of the vocals with the mainly string accompaniment.

It's purposely in fits and starts because I want to try to build up a varied picture of humanity.

Please let me know what you think.

There is distortion on the mix and I suggest starting off with your volume low and then bringing it up slowly, if you want to hear any of the nuances of this draft.

The final version will be in Miroslav, so the quality of the sounds will get better.

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HEARTFELT INDEED.... &mdash 05/02/08 - 04:20:02 PM
is this music......amazing way to bring out the emotional experience.... this is so cool and interesting, because the music itself doesn't neccessarily sound sad, yet the powerful emotions display themselves just the same......Wow......I want to say it is soooooobeautiful, yet knowing what it is about........makes it so transcendental.....I look forward to the final mix!

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Thanks ML....... &mdash 05/05/08 - 02:15:46 AM
I appreciate your leaving a comment so kind on a first draft. I listened to the piece again after I put the tune on here and I was tempted to remove it straight away. It seems to do different things to me each time I listen to it.

I am going to take the music from it and redo it, at some stage this year. It seems to be a longer project to complete than my others.

Take care.

Paul

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The Crying of eve &mdash 05/02/08 - 04:26:02 PM
Yes I can hear suffering in this
Its produced really good. Nice work
I cannot find fault with it. Pain Sorrow and Anguish

I can sense the despair also, yes its all there.

Peace Dee

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Hi Dee..... &mdash 05/05/08 - 02:19:55 AM
The emotion in the piece is only based on my interpretation of what the Tibetan people are going through. I am very emotionally charged when people are being down trodden and or oppressed/repressed.

The highs and the lows of the piece are meant to show the vocal range of these people and it also seems to encapsulate their anguish.

Take care.

Paul

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I don't understand... &mdash 05/02/08 - 09:03:57 PM
...all of the technical things regarding instruments and such that you mention in the description, but I have no doubt that you will build this into something spectacular. No one I have ever heard can paint the kinds of soundscapes you do, Paul. Always so intriguing and so creative. I will eagerly anticipate your final version one day.
Peace.
Paul

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Hi Paul...... &mdash 05/05/08 - 02:24:06 AM
This piece will need to become something a lot different to what it is now. I don't actually like it now. I even thought about pulling it off of MJ's, but have left it as a marker to what the piece sounded like in version one.

Technically it has challenges and so it will be a while before anything else is completed. Even the version you hear here is not exactly what I had in mind at the time, just the atmosphere.

We'll see what happens next.

Take care.

Paul

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Hey Paul &mdash 05/03/08 - 02:29:51 AM
This has got a lot of promise

I am looking forwards to hearing how it develops

One request please...try to maintain the spacial aspects of the mix as you add to it....and if possible give the instruments even more space to breathe

That is my oblique strategy for you today

b

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Hi Bryn..... &mdash 05/05/08 - 02:29:36 AM
I appreciate your input very much Bryn. The suggestions are all very useful, especially in what could turn out to be a full blown orchestral work.

Space has been one of my off and on effects over the last year, and I'm still working on it. It seems to work for some stuff and not others, but you know that already. Some things are just frustrating for me until I have them down 100%, so there's a way to go still.

Thanks for staying a while and leaving the great suggestions.

Take care.

Paul


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reaching and falling... &mdash 05/03/08 - 02:41:58 AM
I feel the struggle in this with the foreground synth's movement, and I think it's an effective approach.

I look forward to hearing how this develops :)

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Thanks Mysty..... &mdash 05/05/08 - 02:34:38 AM
The piece, to me, is now hard to listen to. I almost feel embarrassed to have uploaded it in this state. At the time I was working on it, it seemed presentable but now it seems missing something.

The tune side of things, I think, does have something, but it needs to be lifted from the rest, that seems to pull it down. If this already adds to the emotion of the piece then that's OK but from my side the jury is still out.

I appreciate you taking time to listen and leave your encouraging words. The piece will take a while to put together well.

Take care.

Paul

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Intriguing piece! &mdash 05/03/08 - 05:05:53 PM
A lot of movement - trying to figure out your melodic structure - is it mathmatically calculated?

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Hi Daniel.... &mdash 05/05/08 - 02:39:07 AM
Yes it is. You've hit the nail right on the head.

I'm playing around with computer algorithms connected with music generation. It's something that I developed during my Master's work. In those days I investigated genetic algorithms and their suitability for producing interesting rhythms.

This is sort of a follow on to that.

It's far from perfect and there's a lot of work to do, but it's a start.

If I gain a halt decent theme from this it will be worth the time taken to program this sort of stuff in.

Take care.

Paul

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