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evolvweb (10), echoroom (12), engines (1), believe (12)
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Description:
Tobin asked me to sing on his track, Believe This, months ago (3,4... I can't remember now). You can hear the original on his home page.
He sent me the track and I've spent forever tweaking and prodding, adding and subtracting ... at one point I described it as Nelly Futardo meets Joy Division (the JD bassline went). I kinda had a mental block on the track, couldn't decide which direction I wanted to take it ... a frustrating but interesting experience, as I think the song has mutated into something quite odd.
I don't know what I'd describe this as now.
I really wish I'd got someone to play real guitar on this.
Tobin, thanks for letting me play with the track ... hope you like it.
Lyrics:
Believe This.
1. We crumple like paper cups, who's gonna pick you up?
2. When engines fall from the sky, who's gonna put it right?
3. These buildings were made with love.
4. I never did no one good; but it's not too late for you.
Hardware:
Keystation keyboard
The mic that Phil bought me.
Software:
GB3 and 4, Logic 8, Ozone 3 (whilst reading the manual)
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Logics8 &mdash 05/14/08 - 10:56:46 AM
Cool &mdash 05/14/08 - 11:11:20 AM
As always you sing your voice is outstanding... Very cool take on Tobin's track... Kudos [ Reply to This ]
Hand Claps &mdash 05/14/08 - 11:12:10 AM
The hand claps are a strong element in this song. I thought I'd get tired of them, but I never did. I guess it's a "We Will, We Will, Rock You" kinda primal rhythmic thing that makes it work so good. Really sounds great.
Steve, your vocals are as sharp as ever and your chorus of back ups compare to nothing in musical history!
I think the musical instrumentation is tight and rock solid performances on everything. Did Tobin play everything else for the most part?
Glad to see this clab happen.
DL'd [ Reply to This ]
I've got the claps &mdash 05/14/08 - 11:28:04 AM
Man, I've been avoiding finishing this song forever, as you know... I think Tobin has emigrated. The drums were inspired by say it Right by Nelly F, not by Freddie M!
Actually, the only thing that remains of the original track is the left panned synth in the verse, but the song simply wouldnt exist without Tobins original, which is quite different, but a great track.
8 tracks of my vocals.... bliss (not!) [ Reply to This ]
Great lyrics... &mdash 05/14/08 - 11:13:00 AM
...and delivery. Tune's like a new Bowie, to my ear...cool extension...
Can you sell me your voice? [ Reply to This ]
Yeah Bob &mdash 05/14/08 - 11:29:49 AM
Can you sell me your hands????
'cause they're wonderful!!!!! (see what i did there??) [ Reply to This ]
Yes... &mdash 05/14/08 - 06:06:36 PM
Great &mdash 05/14/08 - 11:19:15 AM
intro and great vocals Steve, I really like this and I love the hand claps, the instruments and production! Superb song and very much enjoyed! [ Reply to This ]
Hey guitar man &mdash 05/14/08 - 11:39:32 AM
Wow, &mdash 05/14/08 - 11:25:16 AM
really cool track, guys! Up there with MissChaos' "Fragile" in my popularity list (and that's high up)!
One little suggestion: Is it needful with two "Attention" each time? OK, it does have a bit of question mark after it, but should'nt once be enough?
Also, it works great as it is already, but then again it would hurt no one if your vocie came forward a tiny bit more. Now it often sounds as one of the instruments, not THE leading one. But maybe that's just me.
Well done both of you, instant fav and dl of course! Thanks!
/Henke [ Reply to This ]
Thanks henke... &mdash 05/14/08 - 11:34:10 AM
... attention got your attention, eh?? I liked using the samples... one less thing to sing! i really wanted the drums up front and the vocal a bit more buried... its in there somewhere!
LOL
steve [ Reply to This ]
Bowie &mdash 05/14/08 - 12:02:20 PM
I thought I was listening to some Bowie tune for a while there... Fab production. Great tune, and super duper singing.! [ Reply to This ]
That's ok... &mdash 05/15/08 - 12:29:35 AM
... some days i think i am Bowie... but with better teeth! Thanks man! [ Reply to This ]
Superb! &mdash 05/14/08 - 12:09:05 PM
Wow man this is remarkably good! Just perfect in my opinion on really every level imaginable. [ Reply to This ]
Hey Drew &mdash 05/15/08 - 12:36:52 AM
... have you come out of hiding? Great to see you... we must get together with Dave soon buddy!
lol
steve [ Reply to This ]
catchy &mdash 05/14/08 - 12:30:49 PM
its great. I would not have caught the fact that the guitar wasn't the real deal. Its wonderfully placed and mixed. The whole tune has an instant appeal. Something worthy of many repeated listens. Love your vocal. [ Reply to This ]
Real &mdash 05/15/08 - 12:39:32 AM
i had to do a big work presentation recently, and did it as the Rat Pack, and sung 'under my skin' live at the end. A lady came up and insisted I'd mimed. I said no, I sung live, but when I spoke, THAT was dubbed!
Thanks KTB... nice to know the fake sounded a little real! [ Reply to This ]
wow steve &mdash 05/14/08 - 12:31:52 PM
this is your best in awhile. so damn hooky I can't even believe it. everything sounds amazing too. fabulous job reworking this, it's obvious that your time was well spent. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks M &mdash 05/14/08 - 02:48:46 PM
I used to spend a lot more time on songs... this was more like the way I wrote older stuff, and has some of that feel... glad you think the effort was worth it!
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Believe This &mdash 05/14/08 - 01:18:37 PM
WOW!!!!
YOUR VOICE ROCKS !!! WELL GOOD.
echoroom 8 tracks of your vocals BLISS !!!
Well done and the backing music is Brilliant as well.
Tobin Congrats too. Thank you for the DOWNLOAD. Hee Hee
Peace Dee xx [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Dee &mdash 05/15/08 - 12:47:47 AM
Steve, you are the Guvnor &mdash 05/14/08 - 01:23:41 PM
Your patience,tweaking and prodding certainly paid off, big time.
Fantastic production of a very catchy and well written and performed song - I tried reading the ozone manual once! It's the little videos on their site that get me.
Love this and downloaded of course.
Cheers
Len
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tweak! &mdash 05/15/08 - 04:50:17 AM
Thanks Len ... loved your latest track! APB put me on to ozone - i used the eq match (from madonnas 'music') and a number of presets... i think it worked!
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Classic! &mdash 05/14/08 - 02:41:55 PM
This is echoroom's classic. Great vocal delivery (as usual) and gorgeous orchestration and music work. I wish I have time to work a guitar but it sounds good here. KUDOS guys, happy to hear a new tune from you. Classic!
Take Care
- Yeman A. Al-Rawi [ Reply to This ]
Hey yeman &mdash 05/15/08 - 04:51:59 AM
Thanks for dropping in. Tobin deserves a lot of kudos for the music... this wouldnt exist without him. Yeah, i shoulda got you to play o this.... next time! [ Reply to This ]
Steve! &mdash 05/14/08 - 02:53:37 PM
this is so excellent. I applaud the clapping! As always great vocals. Outstanding production & mix. The 3 or 4 months was worth the wait. Great take from Tobins original
If I Iistened to this before I just posted I may have reconsidered. [ Reply to This ]
Reconsidere??? &mdash 05/15/08 - 06:45:18 AM
Ditto robo boy. glad you liked my big claps... more clapping on MJs! [ Reply to This ]
oops! &mdash 05/15/08 - 07:38:51 PM
that probably didn't sound right. It was something I should have taken some extra time and gone ahead with on my tune. [ Reply to This ]
Believe This &mdash 05/14/08 - 04:08:47 PM
WOW ... great vocal and arrangment ...my
memory so blind today but I realy hearin a very
cool rockin band playin on my ears .cool harmony
work at the answers ..just fabulous what a song
thnx for sharin !!!!! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks feter &mdash 05/15/08 - 06:47:46 AM
The band is just me and Tobin, 1000s of miles apart... dontcha love the internet?
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wow &mdash 05/14/08 - 05:12:52 PM
wahhh this is cool! so catchy and familiar, yet original. great idea with the handclaps. love the overlapping vocals. hot damn this is good! [ Reply to This ]
Hey man &mdash 05/15/08 - 06:53:02 AM
original is just stealing something and making it sound new! Thanks for the pimp for Vic and i in the forums ... appreciate it, comic book guy! [ Reply to This ]
pish &mdash 05/14/08 - 06:25:31 PM
as always Steve very high quality toon here, you have a way with phrasing that really lifts a song up, this is a perfect example of that. Apart from the strong Mr Jones influence I also hear a little (dare I say it) Culture Club vibe goin, and of course the Furs are preening in the background. Magiko Man.
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boy/ George? &mdash 05/15/08 - 07:15:08 AM
Culture Club??? fookin ell, you trying to say i wear a dress???
Anyway, long time fan of the P Furs, so that may have leaked in. When you gonna post something new???? Its been ages!
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this IS &mdash 05/14/08 - 07:18:16 PM
excellent work Steve... the octive vox.. the backing layers... your thumbprint passion... very creative.... I'm tired but not too tired to nod in your direction...
hat is tipped [ Reply to This ]
Hey big guy.. &mdash 05/15/08 - 07:22:44 AM
So... &mdash 05/14/08 - 07:45:32 PM
How's it feel to be a genius?
Is it like being other people, or like being more yourself?
Do you find that when engines fall from the sky, that people buy you mics?
This is great, Steve. Singing, production, mixing, mastering... Ultra cool... Hard to see the seams, but this collab certainly works.
Ed [ Reply to This ]
Hey Ed &mdash 05/15/08 - 07:30:13 AM
Oh, genius is hell, especially sat reading the ozone manual and not understanding it and wondering how the hell Alan and Racerat get their songs sounding so damn good?! If i was a genius, it would take me hours, not months!
thanks for listening Ed - always a pleasure ... hope to hear something new from you soon. [ Reply to This ]
This &mdash 05/14/08 - 08:08:33 PM
is like a perfect song.Everything is mixed perfectly and the vocals are superb.Even though the song uses a pretty standard chord sequence I didn't get bored at all.(Of course most blues songs have 3 chords but look at what Muddy Waters,Hendrix,Robert Johnson,etc. did with it.)Just shows what can be done with a simple concept,plenty of soul and lots of creativity! [ Reply to This ]
Chords &mdash 05/15/08 - 07:41:56 AM
Hey mark - i think this is just one four chord sequence repeated, which is how Tobin wrote it, and a lot of my stuff is the same, as I'm not really a musician. But you're right, by working on song structure and different musical and vocal ideas it 'diguises' the simplicity of the track (and the singer!).
Thanks for listening
s
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amazing &mdash 05/14/08 - 10:32:59 PM
The vocals on this are just amazing! You did an incredible job and as always your lyrics are stellar. Definitely has a Bowie sound to it, but it reminded me more of "The Echoing Green" than anything else. It's a really cool tune - wanted to clap my hands right along with it! Thanks. [ Reply to This ]
Echo-ing &mdash 05/15/08 - 07:44:42 AM
Hey Kass - I hadnt heard of Echoing Green but checked them on itunes... great stuff. Thanks for checking this out... really enjoyed your latest posting. [ Reply to This ]
masterful &mdash 05/15/08 - 01:47:24 AM
Masterful song my friend. I the time and care you spent on this one really shows, it is a masterpiece. Pro-mixing of a very complicated piece--Boy 8 vocal tracks...glad you counted me out,...but then again no, I'd love to have been part of this gem, but it's all you--and of coarse Tobin! Very complex and moving. (I hear shades of ELO's lush harmonic backing vocals myself...)
Plus your mic sounds great....
P [ Reply to This ]
Hey Dude &mdash 05/15/08 - 07:49:26 AM
...its the mic that did it! I recorded 2 x4 vocal tracks in a seperate project, without fx, then mixed them down to two tracks, and just panned 'em left and right, so it wasnt too hard to mix. wish you coulda done guitar on this... that's working life man! [ Reply to This ]
yeah..again! &mdash 05/15/08 - 02:10:34 AM
Steve, it's 2 AM here, and I just can't resist having to make a comment about this song at this unholy hour.. Yeah, it's that good :-) This has a modern vibe, indeed ala Nelly Furtado meets Bowie (why does this guy's name keep coming up?) It's like giving Bowie a 21st century makeover. Totally digging and tripping on this, and I rarely say that about anything when I am about to hit the sack. You continue to surprise me with your ever-changing style and vocal versatility. [ Reply to This ]
Hey Leon &mdash 05/15/08 - 12:28:03 PM
always great to hear from you ... that makes me the love child of Dave n Nelly - nice! Great to her from you, now get some sleep!
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It does..... &mdash 05/15/08 - 02:35:16 AM
have the vibe of that Futardo song. Bowianly sung, which is great every time.
Really enjoy this.
Fantastic job. You're one of this best around, mate.
LL [ Reply to This ]
The return of the thin white steve... &mdash 05/15/08 - 12:29:39 PM
David .... &mdash 05/15/08 - 03:30:03 AM
... I mean Steve ;)
This is really classy - vocally astounding, musically wonderful (which bits are Tobin?) and the production is as good as I can remember hearing here.
So this is Logic Pro 8 eh - are you using Ozone 3 with it or is that in the GB bits? I'm getting Logic Studio in the next few days and can't wait - I'm a bit worried about whether Ozone 3 will work on my new iMac though. Vic H insists that it's not necessary with LP8 - we'll see!
Steve, you've seriously raised the bar on this one - REALLY good!
Cheers from Oz,
Neil [ Reply to This ]
Did I mention .. &mdash 05/15/08 - 03:30:46 AM
Production... &mdash 05/15/08 - 12:33:40 PM
...is my weak point ... i listen to guys like you and the work you do astounds me... this took a lot of time but it seems to have paid off... i'm now itching to knock one out quickly (er, if you know what i mean!).
Logic studio is ace, and i have no problems using ozone. I actually think ozone, used properly, is better than the logic mastering tools, but then i dont really know how to us the logic tools properly.... i did a mix of this with logic, and i gotta say ozone sounded sweeter... hope this helps.... cant wait to hear what you do with logic!
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Cor &mdash 05/15/08 - 07:04:01 AM
Blimey Steve, you always turn in a fantastic performance. I won't use the DB-word, but it certainly does have that feel to it (I always liked his wonky teeth, actually). Excellent work all round and very creative prodding and poking. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Rebs! &mdash 05/16/08 - 12:41:58 AM
Must admit, i never even thought of Bowie on this (maybe an upbeat Sisters of Mercy?) but i bow to the tide!
My eyes are both the same colour too ... bugger! [ Reply to This ]
Well Steve - once again you've &mdash 05/15/08 - 07:27:05 AM
taken your game to a higher level. All the struggle you went through on this has resulted in a very finely crafted piece with a lot of nuance and invention. Tobin's track sounds great and you really managed to make the most of the opportunities it presented. Great collab. Your voice sounds fantastic as usual. [ Reply to This ]
Quickly! &mdash 05/16/08 - 12:44:35 AM
Man, when i think of our collab, it was done in days. Maybe it suits me to do one track every four months, and become like an MJ Syd Barrett! Thanks for checking this out Bud... now i've got to go an walk our new Cairn! [ Reply to This ]
One can tell... &mdash 05/15/08 - 11:19:42 AM
... the amount of work that must have gone into it. The biggest telling feature is how natural and organic the final product is. The hand-clapping puts me in mind of a group of people celebrating something important, and this is something worthy of celebration.
Kudos! [ Reply to This ]
Natural... &mdash 05/16/08 - 09:34:07 AM
.. great compliment, considering the only live things here are the vocals! Thak you! [ Reply to This ]
Top-Notch &mdash 05/15/08 - 12:00:36 PM
This is top-notch Steve. The production is outstanding! You rock dude! [ Reply to This ]
Well... &mdash 05/16/08 - 12:52:55 AM
Too &mdash 05/16/08 - 01:25:32 PM
very good &mdash 05/15/08 - 12:56:05 PM
.. but took forever... &mdash 05/16/08 - 07:24:36 AM
.. see what happens when you collab with me??? hope you have patience! [ Reply to This ]
.. but took forever... &mdash 05/16/08 - 07:24:41 AM
.. see what happens when you collab with me??? hope you have patience! [ Reply to This ]
Wow, Steve &mdash 05/15/08 - 08:00:06 PM
Your vocals tracks are amazing, along with the rest of this. It reminds me of Bowie,m too, but I like this better. | |
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