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usually it takes a person a few brief seconds to wonder should I tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Or should one water down the circumstance. Here I ramble on for several minutes about it.
Lyrics:
Little White Lie
I won't deny or keep it inside
I could tell you little white lies
either way it doesn't seem quite right
not holding secrets or criticize
maybe I should wait till the time is right
sometimes words cut like a knife
ch:
I will never try I will never lie to you
I will never try I will never lie to you
I will never lie I'll give you the sky
little white lie half truth disguised
you should know before rumors fly
twisted words behind your back
ch:
I can't decide should I tell a lie to you
I can't decide should I tell a lie to you
I can't decide should I tell a lie to you
maybe half truth maybe half lie
rumor mill never questions why
close your ears to little white lies
ch:
I can't decide should I tell a lie to you
I can't decide should I tell a lie to you
I can't decide should I tell a lie to you
Hardware:
the usual stuff
Software:
Logic Pro 8
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Epic &mdash 05/14/08 - 02:47:06 PM
Full of guitar gorgeousness as usual, but i especially love the verse guitar (reminds me of the banshees for some reason). Your vocals are getting better and better (are you having sneaky lessons), and the whole track has an epic, 80's kinda feel.
Love it.
Would I lie to you??? [ Reply to This ]
You Lie? Never &mdash 05/14/08 - 02:58:36 PM
Thanks Steve. I only sing when I record a song so they should get a little better. LOL. Now a days I try to remember the lyrics instead of reading them off a page. I think that helps.
Fantastic new tune of yours. That's the truth! [ Reply to This ]
You really &mdash 05/14/08 - 02:52:25 PM
do have your own signature sound Vic, excellent production. i would know this was you virtually instantly - that's quite an achievement.
Love the lyrics and your vocals are sounding superb. Great song and the playing of it is really exceptional.
Definitely one of your best.
Cheers
Len
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Thanks Len &mdash 05/14/08 - 03:04:30 PM
This one has been in the works for several weeks. Experimented around a bit before I finally said enough is enough. The harder I try not to sound like myself, the more I do end up sounding like myself. [ Reply to This ]
Gorgeous! &mdash 05/14/08 - 03:03:42 PM
Great music as always from you. The guitar work is really gorgeous. Also, a very great vocal delivery. Killer track, I'm really out of words! KUDOS.
Take Care
- Yeman A. Al-Rawi [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Yeman &mdash 05/14/08 - 10:30:16 PM
The guitars (I think I used 3 different ones) go through a lot of tones and amounts of distortion gain. It helps to keep it interesting regarding tone and variety. I'm glad you liked it Yeman! [ Reply to This ]
Really nice... &mdash 05/14/08 - 03:12:17 PM
Good songwriting. Ubiquitous theme.
Guitar work is over-the-top....Like you used a red-hot razorblade for a pick or something...Ha ha...
Another great track for the Hall of Blame!
Be well friend! [ Reply to This ]
Hey Mike &mdash 05/14/08 - 10:37:01 PM
One of those subject matters that no one talks about much. I always wondered who thought up the line "little white lie". Probably the same person who came up with "lying through there teeth".
No sharp impliments where used, although I have a strong attack and haven't broken a git string in many years. [ Reply to This ]
Little White Lie &mdash 05/14/08 - 03:57:12 PM
Ah man ...this sounds like another fire track
of yours ..the guitar work just fabulous as ever !!
loved the drums pattern here specialy the snare .
this reminds me of a psycho band I cant get to my mind
right now but certainly it gives me the feel of a
classic rock sound ..your vocal sound perfect for this
..just a gem ..thnx alot for sharin !!!! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Feter &mdash 05/14/08 - 10:47:20 PM
a guitar orchestra kind of sums it up.
the drums I play on the keyboard via midi. the snare sound has a little overdrive and I think it gives it a great attack.
Thanks for the listen! [ Reply to This ]
very good &mdash 05/14/08 - 05:02:01 PM
i like these lyrics a lot. it's a subject i write a lot about too. really cool sound. a classic vic holman. love those pre-chorus guitars, then that huge chorus! great job. [ Reply to This ]
lyrics &mdash 05/14/08 - 10:54:22 PM
as a comment on your last song I mentioned it takes me a week to even think of lyrics. After a week I give up, hit record & start ad-libbing over the chorus. when a line comes up then the rest comes pretty quick. so far, anyway. [ Reply to This ]
This is &mdash 05/14/08 - 05:39:47 PM
yet another one of your best Vic! I do like your sound - By 20 seconds in it couldn't be anyone else - I have to agree with Len - Simply excellent!
Peter [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Peter &mdash 05/15/08 - 08:15:25 PM
It's been awhile since I did a song with quite a few turn arounds. I took some extra time with this one playing around with some different ideas. I ended taken some things out, it was getting to long. [ Reply to This ]
super &mdash 05/14/08 - 07:01:13 PM
lush, this is really outstanding Vic. fierce guitars (not in the campy way, but like white hot coals). really like this one. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Michael &mdash 05/15/08 - 08:26:34 PM
I've been working on this one in bits and pieces over the last 3 weeks when time permitted. There were other things i was doing in this that I ended up scraping. Probably would of taken another 3 weeks to pull off what I had in mind. [ Reply to This ]
Nice! &mdash 05/14/08 - 07:52:15 PM
This seems a bit heavier than past posts- which I really like! Have you been tweaking the tone on your guitar? I really like the sound here. Nice track as usual Vic! [ Reply to This ]
Hey Mike &mdash 05/15/08 - 08:35:41 PM
I've been dropping the high pass filter down a bit on the guitars and some different external amp modeling.
Oh, I can play extremely heavy. There's a lot of styles and songs I do and have to get around to recording [ Reply to This ]
On this one, Vic... &mdash 05/14/08 - 08:25:16 PM
That lead guitar break is outstanding... Really something...
And I agree with Steve...your lead vocals are getting stronger and more adventuresome as you go along...
Ed [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Ed &mdash 05/15/08 - 08:46:35 PM
the lead guitar break. I thought it would be cool to have a riff leading up to it. and I changed the key for the solo itself. Parts of it are not easy and almost has a countrified sound to it...if that makes sense. [ Reply to This ]
It all works &mdash 05/14/08 - 09:08:38 PM
Really strong song here, Vic. Vocal is spot on.... a great mix always stellar guitars... especially liked when the power chords came in and, of course... the lead. Very cool lyrics, too.
No question that this was going to get downloaded! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Adam &mdash 05/15/08 - 08:52:21 PM
I took a little more time then I usually do on this one. all the guitar parts came together pretty easily. But the lead, I must of ran through that 20 times. There was one wrong note i kept hitting. (brain to finger, hello!) [ Reply to This ]
Little White Lie &mdash 05/14/08 - 10:37:09 PM
Cool lyrics - you're guitar work is wonderful, really really wonderful. And then there's your vocals - you've just got the whole package. I cracked up at your response to Dee - about how the harder you try not to sound like yourself, the more you do. I can totally relate to that! You're terrific - so please keep sounding like yourself! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Karen &mdash 05/15/08 - 09:00:18 PM
yup, the truth is I'm stuck with me. It's not all that bad though, I've yet to get in a argument with myself over creating a song..... so far. Even though one part keeps asking myself "why can't you sing like Roy Orbison?" [ Reply to This ]
Ramble on &mdash 05/15/08 - 02:31:19 AM
Classic Vic. The structure of this song is tremendous. Love how the guitar "sings" with you on the chorus.
Very well-done, my friend. A keeper.
LL [ Reply to This ]
Hey Dave, thanks! &mdash 05/15/08 - 09:08:43 PM
I thought it would be cool to go back and do a song with some different parts to it. Actually I sang to the guitar lines in the chorus. It's hard to notice with my vocals getting in the way but there are 4 guitars, 2 playing a 3rd down. ah, there I go rambling again [ Reply to This ]
Another one! &mdash 05/15/08 - 03:20:44 AM
Vic,
You keep churning out great music - especially like the lead break and the guitars in general really. The "aaaaaaah" bit works really well to take it even further out of the ordinary - file stopped unceremoniously for me at 66%. Will catch the rest of it later.
Cheers from Oz,
Neil [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Neil &mdash 05/16/08 - 04:31:10 PM
I notice I've been having the quicktime player on songs playing as well.
I had even more aah's before these ahhs and other places but I scrubbed them because I wasn't getting exactly what I wanted. I hate that when that happens.
Guitar wise everything fell into place a lot easier. [ Reply to This ]
100 foot tall guitars &mdash 05/15/08 - 09:24:18 AM
how do you play such big guitars? You must have really long arms. Great track Vic - I can ID with the lyrics (unfortunately). Really love that little diving guitar part at about 3:06 into the chorus. Magic. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Kevin &mdash 05/16/08 - 04:43:43 PM
100 foot tall guitar. can you imagine the price of guitar strings for that?
that guitar dive you mention , I plucked a harmonic on the G string, 4 fret (B). It's a old Van Halen/Satriani trick.
You know, we are long overdo for a collab project together. [ Reply to This ]
Collab - great idea &mdash 05/17/08 - 08:48:35 PM
I've been a little stuck since the CBGB thing - the wind has left my sails. [ Reply to This ]
Vic &mdash 05/15/08 - 10:41:07 AM
Thanks Mark &mdash 05/16/08 - 04:50:27 PM
I spread out working on this for 3 weeks. So, it's nice to have it out of the way so i can move onto something else. I thought the topic was something that rarely gets brought about, honestly [ Reply to This ]
Vid does it again. &mdash 05/15/08 - 11:06:24 AM
Nobody blends the guitars so well into the mix. They are larger than life yet don't overpower the rest.
And as always, cool melodies and unexpected twists. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Pete &mdash 05/16/08 - 04:57:59 PM
blending the guitars gets pretty easy after a while. I decided to give it the variety so I wouldn't get bored... and to go a little crazy with it of course.
Thanks again Pete. [ Reply to This ]
nailed it &mdash 05/15/08 - 12:07:35 PM
The way you play the melody in the refrain on your guitar unison with your singing is a tasty choice.
Another brilliant tune from you.
And I must comment once again that I really enjoy the art pieces you put up to your songs. This one made me smile and sticks pretty good with the title of the song. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Thor &mdash 05/16/08 - 05:04:54 PM
I think I pretty well threw in a lot of guitar tricks in this one..... except any tapping solos. (don't know how that got past me).
I'm still working in Macromedia Freehand on the song illustrations. [ Reply to This ]
This is great &mdash 05/15/08 - 06:40:22 PM
thats not a lie...Haha like the drums in this and the way the vocals go with the lead Excellent! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Tim &mdash 05/16/08 - 05:09:13 PM
honestly, i play the midi drums on the keyboard. I think it gives a more live fell of not following a set pattern. if I'm lying... I'll never tell! [ Reply to This ]
Great lyrics &mdash 05/16/08 - 05:26:34 AM
thanks Dick &mdash 05/16/08 - 05:12:21 PM
nuff and stuff. I tried to keep it all real and honest. er, sort of. [ Reply to This ]
great work &mdash 05/16/08 - 04:52:37 PM
thank ya sir! &mdash 05/16/08 - 05:16:44 PM
Usually I'll get the music of a song together pretty fast. I gave myself the luxury of taking some time on this one.
I really appreciate the listen! [ Reply to This ]
Fess Up &mdash 05/16/08 - 09:53:13 PM
Cool song Vic. I like the lyric - half truth disguised.
My favorite chorus vocal treatment is this one for sure!I can't decide should I tell a lie to you!! That reversed echo sound at the beginning of it that comes in with your crazy guitar is insane.
Nice heavy guitars sounds and super expressive midi drums, although I don't believe it. [ Reply to This ]
thanks Bob &mdash 05/17/08 - 10:47:38 PM
actually the whole thing is reversed. Then I played it back in a mirror.
I won't sugar coat you now. I did the chorus guitar lines first and it helped me to come up with a chorus vocal pretty quick. The rest of the lyrics came real fast after I knew I had something to lie about.......or do I? Only my hairdresser knows for sure. [ Reply to This ]
Played It Back In A Mirror &mdash 05/18/08 - 06:07:02 AM
Now that was funny!
What you're saying is that you rock BOTH ways. Forward and, uh, not forward....
By the way, I've always wondered why you keep that hairdresser on payroll. You wear a hat every day of your life. [ Reply to This ]
-0 &mdash 05/18/08 - 02:31:38 PM
I think I tend to rock sideways. and I'm not even in a boat. but I'll keep that under my hat. [ Reply to This ]
Great song &mdash 05/17/08 - 11:26:36 PM
I love the riff through the verse, and the opening bars are great. Terrific vocal as ever. You have such a distinctive voice, and you sing the lyrics so forcefully and expressively. Great guitar work throughout. Your playing has soul, my friend, and it helps that you're a great guitarist! Great theme. I once asked a group of students how many of them never lie. Everyone put their hand up. I said "Really?' and everyone put their hand back down! It was an interesting class...Nicely done, my friend. Class track. Peace. [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Dave &mdash 05/18/08 - 02:20:13 PM
the opening had a couple tracks of power chords that really weren't doing it for me until I reversed them. That made a big difference and got the brain in gear.
I thought the subject matter might be one of those things that no one likes to talk about or admit to. At first I was a bit hesitant, but I thought oh well, might as well be real about it. [ Reply to This ]
AH Vic Holman ..... &mdash 05/18/08 - 02:42:37 AM
.... I could hear all the little "nuances" here ... both vocal and mixing ..... and I can hear how hard you worked on this ..... maybe dropped a small bead of sweat or two here and there ... very professional job ... sometimes the listeneer needs to be in the right "space" when listening to hear the little things .. that make it just SO ! good job Vic ! I heard them ! you truly give 100% (unlike my own personal 10%) when it comes to working these things out ..... [ Reply to This ]
Hey Alannah &mdash 05/18/08 - 02:28:34 PM
It took a little while to get this together, but not a really big sweat. Usually from time to time there are little things under the hood, and headphones are the best to pick 'em up. This one is a pretty good example.
now about that 10% of yours. I think you forgot to put a extra 1 in front of it. [ Reply to This ]
What a &mdash 05/18/08 - 11:47:07 AM
thanks Bossman &mdash 05/18/08 - 10:21:43 PM
Listened to your new one as well earlier today. very well done! I can't fid about that. [ Reply to This ]
Just totally... &mdash 05/18/08 - 01:40:35 PM
enjoyed this song... Vic, I am so impressed at everything you are doing in this song. Like others have said... your singing is really good here... your everything else (instruments) can't get much better... or can it? Now that possibility is beginning to scare me!
cheers...
D [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Jack &mdash 05/18/08 - 10:27:49 PM
I've been toying around with this for a while. I was about to spend another week on some things but decided to wrap it up before it went over the top. [ Reply to This ]
You big fibber you .. ;o) &mdash 05/18/08 - 02:18:34 PM
s'good un Vic ..true to yourself.. another MJer that you can recognise easily within the first minute .. talk about oozing style...
I particularily liked the way you use effectual guitar 'noise' .. and perhaps more so ... the way the guitars backed up the vocal melody or was it vice-versa .. sweet backing vox too. Altogether a fine well thought out composition, mixed and produced very well of course too (as I'd expect).
Keep 'em coming ...
/Alan [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Alan &mdash 05/18/08 - 10:41:47 PM
I don't throw out my guitar noises all to much. this tune was a good opportunity to let some fly. I added the vocals last so all the guitar riffs had it pretty well mapped out for me. So the vocal tracks went down pretty quick.
Well I'm accustomed to sounding like me, at least the shoes fit. [ Reply to This ]
Fantastic &mdash 05/18/08 - 02:45:33 PM
song Vic, this is so good, love the guitars they sound superb, great chorus and vocals!
A really great track with a superb production!
Brilliant!! [ Reply to This ]
Thanks Bob &mdash 05/18/08 - 10:49:35 PM
I worked on this one in bits and pieces over a 3 week period when time allowed. Sometimes I think I enjoy the creating process most and trying out some ideas. You never know where it will end up. Sure didn't sound like this on a lone acoustic when I first started. [ Reply to This ]
Excellent &mdash 05/18/08 - 09:52:30 PM
Love the guitar tones, great mix. Like the melody, and the hook. Awesome. Oh yea and like the artwork looks like Robbie the Robot with a zipper in his mouth. [ Reply to This ]
thanks stratcat &mdash 05/18/08 - 10:56:58 PM
I was just listening to your new tune...... man, you floored me. awesome playing! [ Reply to This ]
Cool tune &mdash 05/19/08 - 04:50:17 PM
Very original Vic Holman trademark. Refreshing to listen to... lots going on with some fine energy. Really dig the guitar. Really dig the transitions into the vocals.
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Thanks John &mdash 05/21/08 - 01:23:02 AM
definately a lot of bits and pieces. Spent more time then usual and tis is the mess I make with idle hands. I dug you re-mix on you new post. [ Reply to This ]
love it &mdash 05/20/08 - 05:19:25 PM
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Love it.
Would I lie to you???
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