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tobin (66), fosod (4), twonicus (7), ivanjs (4), gudkarma (1), twon (8), collaboration (102), electric guitar (29), instrumental (390), guitar (798), duet (22), guitar duet (1)
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The full title: Queen Crimson, or the conversation between the birth of Aphrodite and the Mother Ocean. This is what I sent around to people to inspire them to contribute. Fosod's great vocals blend perfectly with the real life whales (which I added after I heard his contributions), as does Gudkarma's flute (which I added after). IvanJS was in the hospital during the mix and couldn't play bass, but I used his original MouthinoffCollab vocal as a starting groove, even though it kind of got buried in the onslaught of sounds. Religious chanting (clips) forms the backdrop that morphs into vocal choruses by various people.
Artwork is an original by Tobin James Mueller, © 1999.
Lyrics:
It is meant to listen to in headphones, since there is so much going on! Turn it up as far as you can...
Hardware:
Guitars: Suzanne.
Vocals: Fosod, Twon, Tobin, Suzanne and John Selvia.
Bass: Twon.
Shakuhachti Flute: Gudkarma.
Humpback whales: clips, Gudkarma's flute, Fosod's vocals.
Grooves: MouthinoffCollab by IvanJS; percussive loops by Tobin.
Software:
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too many chefs &mdash 10/22/04 - 08:17:27 PM
i take it back &mdash 10/23/04 - 10:53:07 AM
i was listening last night through my crappy headphones because everyone
else was asleep. you definately can't do justice to this song without hearing
through a decent set of speakers with wide stereo seperation. i'm really sorry
about that. [ Reply to This ]
wow.... &mdash 10/23/04 - 08:09:55 AM
this falls into the realm of art....sound art...if u will....u
won't here this type of creative work on the radio thats for
sure...and a damn shame...i've given up on radio as a
source for adventurous music...nothing but formulaic
offerings....your music takes the listener on a trip to parts
unknown and elsewhere and frees the imagination to
color the view in so many possible ways....thanks for
ride!....... [ Reply to This ]
Gliding &mdash 10/23/04 - 08:47:23 AM
Like gliding over a world alive with waves of births and
beliefs. Those guitar licks are pretty amazing, Suz. Love
fosods vocals and his duet with the whales! Makes my
imagination soar... [ Reply to This ]
Gliding &mdash 10/23/04 - 09:08:34 AM
Gliding &mdash 10/23/04 - 09:12:11 AM
hahah! &mdash 10/23/04 - 09:15:16 AM
you actually managed to squeeze me in there.
i didnt thinki would make it. :)
well my voice is back if you need it again.
this sounds really good!
i cant turn it up to '11' because i'm on my ibook now.
but wait till i get home!!!!!!!
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Killer illustration art... &mdash 10/23/04 - 09:45:05 AM
Killer illustration art... &mdash 10/23/04 - 10:12:17 AM
oh, i forgot to mention... song art is by Tobin. you'll have to ask him (!)
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morning girl [ Reply to This ]
I've Been Waiting &mdash 10/23/04 - 03:12:07 PM
I knew you played guitar but I've only heard very little
of your playing before so this was a surprise. Pretty
impressive. [ Reply to This ]
Musical Artistry... &mdash 10/23/04 - 08:33:44 PM
Musical Artistry... &mdash 12/14/04 - 06:31:58 AM
thanks. i was afraid it would sound a bit like a mess, with all the stuff i layered into it. i edited out some things and now i'm glad i did. i appreciate your comments.
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morning girl [ Reply to This ]
How I'd Love To.... &mdash 10/24/04 - 10:56:53 AM
eavesdrop on this conversation more often!
"Angel came down from heaven yesterday
She stayed with me just long enought to rescue me
And she told me a story yesterday
About the sweet love between the moon and the deep
blue sea"
Thanks for being my angel. This piece was heavenly. The
guitar tones and performance are stellar - can't type
anymore - must listen again NOW! [ Reply to This ]
What a trip! &mdash 10/24/04 - 07:56:16 PM
I think that knocked some of the crust off of my brain just
listening to this.
Highly original sound. Thumbs up! [ Reply to This ]
What a trip! &mdash 10/24/04 - 07:58:32 PM
I think that knocked some of the crust off of my brain just
listening to this.
Highly original sound. Thumbs up! [ Reply to This ]
I hold up a pint of Guinness and say.... &mdash 10/26/04 - 05:35:05 AM
BRILLIANT! Wished I could've been a part of this, but I
really felt it didn't have a place for me... perhaps, next
time, heheh!
I love how THICK this song feels, so many textures
mingling together to create an awesome sound, hats off
to all! Especially, the work done by the Humpback
whales... they NEED a record deal! :P [ Reply to This ]
I hold up a pint of Guinness and say.... &mdash 12/14/04 - 06:35:28 AM
Alan(a) Holdsworth &mdash 10/26/04 - 05:22:23 PM
Is that really you on the guitar? Ooooeeee! Got a bit of
EVH from the licks (isn't that the beginning to the solo
from "Beat it" in there...?) the overall feel was much more
King Crimson/UK (hence the Alan"a" Holdsworth
comment). Really nice tone on the lead guitar, full of guts.
How did you do it? (hot di Marzio's plus a Mesa Boogie..?)
Really loved this, you have got some of the best talent on
the site with you here and it shows.
Yep, loved it. [ Reply to This ]
Alan(a) Holdsworth &mdash 10/27/04 - 09:50:26 AM
this whole project started as a king crimson homage, hence the title. i actually started with the feel from the Perfect Pair album, but a lot of that stuff got kind of buried in the waves of ideas i added over 2 months of epileptic layering. thanks for the comments. lots of retakes, tobin fixing guiar timing in various programs, and AUs helping with effects. i think the guitar was actually mixed into a draft mix 2-3 times on top of earlier mixes - as i added parts i would realize an earlier mix made the guitar too soft so i would re-mix it over the top, sometimes using different effects. as messy as the end product sounds, and as lively.
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morning girl [ Reply to This ]
Alan(a) Holdsworth &mdash 10/27/04 - 11:17:48 AM
well....u really have some fantastic chops...u really should do a piece where u
r guitar is showcased instead of playing little snippets here and there.....i
hope one day to hear some of u r great playing upfront......
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I live for music....... [ Reply to This ]
So much sound! &mdash 10/26/04 - 05:59:44 PM
There's so much going on, it's like a great meal. All the
different flavors coming and going. The rhythm reminds
me of Micky Hart's Planet Drum album, until the guitar
starts wailing. Great stuff! [ Reply to This ]
trippy dream or dreamy trip? &mdash 10/27/04 - 03:28:38 PM
The song has just ended, and I suddenly woke up and fell
out of bed.
Was it a dream or was I tripping?
Very artfully conceived and executed track. You did
indeed have "so much going on" but somehow it all pulled
together into an intricate, multi-layered whole.
I liked your guitar playing very much.
I kept trying to listen for the Shakuhachti flute but
couldn't quite make it out.....
.....which means I need to listen to this song a few more
times!
Wonderfully creative -- thanks for sharing this. [ Reply to This ]
trippy dream or dreamy trip? &mdash 10/28/04 - 08:56:11 PM
the flute is doing the intial impression of a whale. it is what starts the whole thing, this first sound you hear. i morphed it into real whale sounds but they're kind of buried under that first groove and then the other layers. but the whales resurface in the end, this time with no flute, but a lot of fosod!
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morning girl [ Reply to This ]
hehe..... &mdash 10/31/04 - 09:09:50 PM
my shakuhachi was a little low. i dont think people were expecting that. : )
i can hear it though.
ah......i came to say.....thanks for the note on my old poem.
heh. i just saw it 'what can i taste'
thank you.
you might like my upcoming post, susu.
i submitted it tonight....
i'm on my laptop...so if you email me...i'll advance you a copy.
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hehe..... &mdash 12/14/04 - 06:33:22 AM
wild trip! &mdash 11/11/04 - 02:29:59 PM
good to see you're still writing! man that's a trip. give us
some more! [ Reply to This ]
God. I want garageband! &mdash 11/17/04 - 05:48:55 PM
Pile on &mdash 11/26/04 - 10:20:09 PM
What a cornicopia of sound. Push it, girl. Push it! You have some great friends there, too. [ Reply to This ]
Phenomenal &mdash 11/29/04 - 09:58:16 PM
I can't believe I've been on MJ all this time and had no idea
you can play / arrange like this.
All 9's. [ Reply to This ]
Sorry I've been so busy lately &mdash 12/04/04 - 11:03:38 AM
This is cool stuff - and I missed it, until now. I'm starting
to see the light at the end of the tunnel (just hope it's not
a locomotive, or oncoming traffic). I'll have to take this out
on the iPod and get a real listen to it. Some of my fav.
folks doing some really hot stuff, dang. [ Reply to This ]
Sorry I've been so busy lately &mdash 12/14/04 - 06:38:54 AM
thanks. lots of help from my friends, as jimmy page once said. i wish i wasn't so busy, too, and could spend more time remebering how to play!
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morning girl [ Reply to This ]
Got that right &mdash 12/14/04 - 06:49:38 PM
Cool... &mdash 12/15/04 - 12:37:46 PM
I really like this, sometimes songs with this amount of
density tend to lose direction, important aspects get lost
in the maelstrom so to speak. This works really well
though because every bit serves a purpose. Very
atmospheric.
Nice one.
Adi [ Reply to This ]
Cool... &mdash 02/21/05 - 01:55:55 PM
thanks! i always layer on too much stuff. i cut some things off of this before finally submitting it. glad you think i found the right mix. everyone's contributions were so fun to work with...
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morning girl [ Reply to This ]
Rip it up and let it fly &mdash 01/31/05 - 10:18:39 AM
Over the ocean you fly like a demon lover, skipping like a hot rock just above the sirens of water, sizzling with goddess nakedness, dripping the coolest licks in sight. Motion, never let me down. Constant, so sad it has to end. You can fly me to your place of birth any time! [ Reply to This ]
Rip it up and let it fly &mdash 02/21/05 - 01:53:52 PM
i'm becoming a fan of your poetic (?) comments. too bad there aren't links to a list of member comments from the profile page...
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morning girl [ Reply to This ]
This knocked me out &mdash 02/01/05 - 05:52:38 PM
This is a really accomplished piece of work. One of the
best things I've heard at MJ. Fantastic stuff! [ Reply to This ]
This knocked me out &mdash 02/21/05 - 01:57:48 PM
thanks. listening to it again (as i write this), the ending is so long i think it should be the final track of an album. now all i have to do is come up with the rest of the album!
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morning girl [ Reply to This ]
Boisterously Hypnotic.... &mdash 03/21/05 - 11:00:47 PM
this is addictive listening &mdash 03/29/05 - 12:45:17 PM
This is full of musical colour and stands up to repeated listening , there are no cliches and if I could I would buy it .
ps. Thank you for your comment on my music ( somethings 1 and 2 )under my friends logon ( Willywaga ).
I dont have a mac nor do I have internet access where I live at the moment .
Keep up the great music . [ Reply to This ]
wonderful &mdash 04/07/05 - 02:12:39 AM
god, the electric soloing is out of this world. it's jeff
tweedy-ish. that on top of this multi-layered, multi
dimensional soundscape makes for some interesting
imagery. [ Reply to This ]
Monster tune!!! &mdash 04/10/05 - 10:18:43 PM
First let me apologize for coming across this wonderfully rockin, funkin', masterfully mixed tune sooner. Where the heck have I been?! Actually, it's tough to keep up with MacJams.com. I came across your tune via Blaine Transue's VIRTUAL GARAGE listings. Thanks for sharing. Bravo to all the collaborators and to Blaine and VIRTUAL GARAGE.
Smokin' git-chops too, to say the least.:)
10s! [ Reply to This ]
The Queen Shreds! &mdash 04/17/05 - 06:27:11 AM
no direction? &mdash 05/03/05 - 04:01:16 PM
I'm sorry, I absolutely like progrock, but I can't see any
direction in this. It's noodling from start to end. Not that
there are no good parts in it, on the contrary, but it isn't
linked together. Progrock definitely means "more-
dimensional" to me: parts that come back in a different
setting with different harmonies very well linked together
or parts that are very diverse linked together in
imaginative and inventive ways. This is one-dimension.
On the other hand, I like the guitars and the bass a lot!
And some of the noises.
Guess I'm looking for the storyline, even if it's avant-
garde there has to be a reason and it has to be a
convincing one ... [ Reply to This ]
no direction? &mdash 05/03/05 - 04:12:54 PM
Sorry, haven't read the comments about the collab. I guess the first comment
says it all: "too many chefs"
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"The diatonic system lives, even in bi-lingual communities"
(Frank Zappa's comments on Belgium) [ Reply to This ]
Holy smokes!! &mdash 05/20/05 - 12:13:23 AM
You can play guitar!! I agree with some of the others...I
want to hear a piece that features that talent! If I could do
that with my guitar it wouldn't be collecting dust in the
corner. Very unique collab. [ Reply to This ]
Musical Soup &mdash 08/27/05 - 02:04:36 PM
Nice group of talent in a musical stereo soup. Nice
shredding and bass playing. Something you don't hear
everyday. [ Reply to This ]
energy &mdash 08/28/05 - 09:18:07 AM
wow suzanne.... &mdash 09/23/05 - 06:54:28 AM
jeez your stuff is really great...now I'm all tingly!!!!
this would be great soundtrack for a Starbucks commercial....so full of
joyous energy!!
damn girl...you can play your ASS off!!!!
ooooh can ya say that to a girl????
awesome work!
deeper bow
z [ Reply to This ]
crawling from the musical wreckage... &mdash 01/04/06 - 12:12:35 PM
..... is this unique track.
My blinkered mind keeps trying to form a proper song from this, but that's not the point, is it?
Great playing from all involved - a wstrange piece, like a musical orgasm, with a sudden fade to nothing. [ Reply to This ]
Wow! &mdash 01/17/06 - 08:20:47 AM
Hi Suzanne,
Your guitar work on this track is killer!! The whole track is somewhat meditative, but it's the guitar that sticks with me the most. Thanks for posting. [ Reply to This ]
In A Perfect World... &mdash 06/12/06 - 12:41:04 PM
In a perfect world, I would be able to make music like this! I just love it.
Thanks so much for sharing!
Stacey [ Reply to This ]
blistering &mdash 08/25/06 - 10:40:34 PM
sexy middle section-to die for. the beginning and end go somewhere
else, but for those minutes in beween, i'm totally there. you are the
meshell ndegeocello of guitar! [ Reply to This ]
Excellent Guitar Playing &mdash 01/14/07 - 04:25:55 PM
Being a huge King Crimson fan I see where you are coming from on this. Loved the sonic layers, I am particularily impressed by the guitar playing! [ Reply to This ]
excellent guitar &mdash 01/26/07 - 08:04:48 PM
now this is great! I don't know a lot King Crimson songs but I'm fascinated by the old YES and GENESIS songs, like "Close to the edge" or "Lamb lies down on Broadway". As far as I now King Crimson is not that far away from those other two bands.
When I heard the solo guitar the first idea I had was "sounds like Brian May". Then I read the posting comparing your guitar sound with Eddie van Halen. K, let's say Eddie plays Brian's guitar?
Just kidding. Everything's excellent work. From instrumentation, compiling to production. Great sound.
This song suits my Sennheiser headphones well ;-))
Greetings Michael [ Reply to This ]
Layers... &mdash 05/04/07 - 09:51:11 PM
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