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the verse riff i've had around for about 5 years and i decided recently to build a song around it. this is what i came up with.

the lyrics are nonsensical. mostly a stream of consciousness thing... choosing words that feel right to sing in certain parts.
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Lyrics
and i know you will see
the way things should be
and i know how it's done
when it all comes undone

undone, your friends should be
afraid of me
they've got to run away
run away, leave this place

undone, why can't you see
that you're not free
you've got to run away
run away, leave this place today

and i know you will see
it's all up to me
and all along you will run
it all comes undone

[chorus]

a penny for what's on your mind
they all look the same you do

[chorus]
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Fans: 30
Plays: 177
Downloads: 161
Votes: 10
Uploaded: Jul 04, 2008 - 04:38:50 PM
Last Updated: Jul 04, 2008 - 04:38:50 PM Last Played: Mar 21, 2017 - 11:42:19 PM
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Hardware:
fender strat and bass, v-drums, microkorg, pod xt, marshall jcm900
Software:
cubase 4
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Feter said 3280 days ago (July 4th, 2008)
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Giant work my friend ..very tight rockin ..
YOU ROCK ....thnx for sharin !!
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12parsecs said 3280 days ago (July 4th, 2008)
Leaf
thanks for commenting! i like to rock. rocking is good.

actually, i just listened online here and noticed a warble in my voice (or bg track) at the beginning of the second verse. uh oh. might have to reupload. :) whatevs, i'll let it slide for now.
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Skean said 3280 days ago (July 4th, 2008)
Nice
Only one thing I should try to have the voice louder in there.
Otherwise it's a very nice mix as Feter say YOU ROCK... Love it.
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12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
thanks
thanks, kenta. i think i'm still getting used to my own voice. i'm getting braver, i think. soon it my mixes will have vocal levels bordering on 'sufficient'. :) thanks again.
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rsorensen said 3280 days ago (July 4th, 2008)
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this is cool, scott. good to hear you singing again, though i think you really need to say screw it and turn up those vocals ;) love the contrast of the heavy chorus and the mellow verses/bridge, and that duel guitar solo is sweet. sounds like this coulda been on a TDT album.
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12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
soon
like i was saying to kenta, soon i'll be brave enough and/or have enough confidence in my vocals to bring the up in the mix. i'll try to fix this before i put it to cd.

i can see what you are saying about the tdt thing. i actually showed the guys the verse idea and, while they really liked it, they thought it was too mellow. ha, showed them. and ripped off the tom fill from 'thousand eyes' to boot! :)
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said 3279 days ago (July 4th, 2008)
wow!
another great song from you! the vocals a little bit up, perhaps - absolutely great composition
12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
thank you
thanks for you kind words. i enjoyed composing this one.

when you say 'the vocals a little bit up', do you mean the ARE too loud, or they need to be louder? (i assume, by everyone else's comments, you mean the latter.)

thanks again!
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michael2 said 3279 days ago (July 4th, 2008)
excellent
i really like this, what a voice. really excellent job, love it.
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12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
cheers!
thanks for checking out this one, michael!
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Alannah said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
Definitely yes ....
.. I agree with the earlier comments ... "CRANK them VOX" .. you got the chops .... throw caution to the wind .... nice sound .... or .... if you are too afraid to mix yourself .... send your vox tracks to someone else (during a collab) on here .. let them CRANK em .. and be amazed at how they mix you and how GOOD you sound when they are finished ! Another solid tune by 12parsecs !
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12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
the vocal dilema
thanks, alannah. i'm such a control freak, don't know if i could hand over my vocal tracks... maybe one day. all this encouragement is leading me down the path to louder vocals.
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NorthPoint said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
Nice riff
Like the arpeggio feel on the verses. This has a Beatles feel to me in the intro.... vocals are a little quiet and in the background but maybe that was the feel you were going for. The harder-edged section reminded me of Foo Fighters. Very good tune - nice job 12parsecs.
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12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
yes!
i want to shout it out from the top of buildings, "I'VE BEEN COMPARED TO THE FOO FIGHTERS!" dave grohl is the shizzle!

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said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
!!!
greatness....
12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
cheers!
it's not a bunch of pink roses, but it'll do. thanks for checking it out, mr smells!
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lavalamp said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
Here you go again
Get signed already, will you?

Spectacular.

LL
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12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
signed...
hehe, i wish. i'll keep perfecting my craft (starting with learning to up the vocals) here at home and release an album all independent-like. :) thanks for checking it out!
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Einarus said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
Oh, awesome!
I have to start by saying that coming by a really good rock song on MJ is easier said than done - but I've just found one (and yes, I mean yours).

The verses are really cool, but you should really bring your vocals up in the mix, because it sounds really good but I couldn't really make out what you were saying.

The hard chorus parts are a bit reminiscent of Foo Fighters, like NorthPoint mentioned, and they're really powerful and a nice dynamic contrast to the calm, kinda eerie verses (and I love dynamic contrasts).
There was one thing though, that I could mention:
I thought the choruses were a little bit muffled - I mean, I thought it lacked some of the higher frequencies to make it a bit more 'alive', somehow. I should mention that my knowledge of guitars and guitar amps is extremely little, so maybe this is a technical thing that I don't understand :) But yeah, I thought it was just a tad muffled.

That little calm break after the second verse was also really cool - again a nice dynamic contrast - and kinda reminded me a bit of Coldplay.

But all in all an excellent rock song - something that I think is not easy to find here.
A favorite and a download!

Excellent work!

-Einar S.
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12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
thank you
thank you very much for the detailed comment. you might be on to something there. the choruses could, perhaps, stand to use a bit more 'brightness'. i hadn't thought of it, but i am going from a very breathy verse, with hihat, ac gtr... copious high-end. then in the choruses, it's a washy crash cymbal, less breathy vocal, no more acoustic guitar. i could find some frequencies to tweak to brighten it up a bit. particularly the distortion guitar. i usually bring out more mid/high in them in my mixes.

thanks again for listening so carefully!
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BigFinish said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
right then
from what i could hear you shouldn't be shy about the vox level .. sounds fine and needs to be louder ... this is a great tune and deserves full treatment ... so come on .. a bit louder on the vocals ... very much enjoyed this tune .. a lot!!
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12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
alright
alright people, i will try to have more vocal in the mix from now on. :) these are my first recordings where i've done the vocal, so i'm still suffering from the 'answering machine shock'. you know, the first time you heard your voice on an answering machine you said to yourself, or out loud, 'i sound like that?!?'

i'm glad you enjoyed it, though. thanks for checking my stuff out!
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davisamerica said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
right then...
ummm .. what the guy in the top hat said .. : -]
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12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
right-o
you gotta respect what a guy in a top hat is saying. :) i couldn't pull of that look if i tried. thanks for checking out yet another tune of mine, mr america. you rock!

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dolby said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
Hey...
...this is really good. Sounds like a whole bunch of stuff, but you sound like you have control over what you're doing - you've managed to create something that's dynamically interesting, and which rocks but with a sweet melody in there. I agree that the vocals could come up throughout - but hey maybe that's the effect you're going for? I like this a lot.

Phil
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12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
desired effect
maybe i was going for a 'slightly quieter than normal' effect on the verse lyrics, but the choruses definitely need to come up, i'll admit. well, they both do.

yeah, there's a lot of layering in this track. the last chorus needed more oomph, because i ditched the lead line for it, so i added many, many crazy sounding synths. using the bridge for preroll (big mistake :) i started putting synth in there. that's how i wound up with sonar ping. it was really stripped down before, with just the gtrs, rhodes and cello. i might go back to that original idea for the bridge. (unless people tell me differently.)

thanks for the comment, dolby. i'm a big fan of your noise reduction and surround!
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lengold said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
This is
superb. Great song, musicianship and production. I agree that the vocals could be much more prominent. Your voice reminds me of Colin Blunstone in the softer parts, and I hope you take that as a big compliment.
Cheers
Len


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12parsecs said 3279 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
thanks!
len, that's a huge compliment. i was checking out some of his stuff. really great singer. but, alas, he is singing full voice, i'm just doing falsetto. man, if i could sing like him - with a soft, silky non-falsetto voice - i'd be set!
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Vic Holman said 3278 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
I like!
great contrast between verse and chorus. a solid tune and nicely played,
the chorus has a cool style in the way of Foo Fighters


oh, and like they said, I think you got some great vocals.
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12parsecs said 3278 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
yay!
another foo fighters reference. coolness! i thought at first the chorus sounded more like muse... but i'll take foos any day! thanks for the compliment!
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buckhorn said 3278 days ago (July 5th, 2008)
No need
to raise the vocal.......just lower everything else......just kidding. Another super cool tune. We all only have our own ears to follow and you obviously have a great one. (or two) Regards
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12parsecs said 3278 days ago (July 6th, 2008)
although
times are tough, i haven't had to resort to selling one of my ears yet. so, yes i still have both of them. besides, i like mixing in stereo. hehe.

hey, thanks for listening!
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Remark80 said 3278 days ago (July 6th, 2008)
Haunting guitar
Love the melodic guitar during the verses. Nice strong vocals when it picks up. I would have liked to hear your voice more during the soft verses. Great tune.
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12parsecs said 3278 days ago (July 6th, 2008)
thanks
yeah, i think the key to the melodic arpeggiating guitar is the final chromatic run that turns it around at the end of the progression. thanks for noticing that part. and you are correct the verse vox (and the chorus even) need to come up.

thanks for the comment. and thanks for listening!
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drakonis said 3278 days ago (July 6th, 2008)
intriguing...
More my daughter's style than mine (as I show my genre-age, and I'll play this for her), but very nicely written, played and arranged. I like the intriguing chords, and think you have a great singing voice and talent for composition. Nice nice guitar work. Mix sounds excellent, except as mentioned, the voice should be brought forward... perhaps after you rework the lyrics? Welcome to Macjams!
ttfn,
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12parsecs said 3278 days ago (July 6th, 2008)
cheers!
i'd be interested to know if you daughter likes it. teenager?

thanks for the comment about the intriguing chords. with the distortion on the guitars, and the bass holding the root, all the other notes in the chords sometimes become less discernible.

and yes, i might revise the lyrics if i can come up with something better... put a little more thought into it. i also want to have less 'eeee' in the high notes, as that's just a recipe for thin. thanks for checking my tune out!
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springclock said 3278 days ago (July 6th, 2008)
I have to say
that you have the coolest user name here at MacJams....seriously....it takes the cake.... as far as the song..... nice moody bit of rock.... good clean mix.... nice chord structure.... love how it kicks in and starts to pund a bit..... I dig your voice....I would just like to hear the vocals come up in the mix a bit more.... just a preference.... good solid work though.... thanks so much for sharing this with the other MJ kids.... peace....Ian

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12parsecs said 3278 days ago (July 6th, 2008)
not to be confused.
thanks for clearing up the MJ confusion, especially for the newbies out there. (hey wait, that's me. :)

and thanks for checking out the tune! a compliment from you from you about the structure and mix is a serious compliment. cheers!

and, i have to admit it, i like the name too. the star wars geeks (and that's me for sure) get it. have a good one!
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springclock said 3278 days ago (July 6th, 2008)
I am also
guilty of uber-geekery.... star wars, battlestar galactica(new), doctor who, batman..... guilty of all of the above myself.....haha.....peace....Ian
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Bob Rodgers said 3278 days ago (July 6th, 2008)
I
love the feel of this and the vocals are just great!

I like the intro with mellow verses leading into the rocky chorus parts.
Great guitar playing and a wonderful tone!
Excellent stuff and I loved it!
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12parsecs said 3278 days ago (July 6th, 2008)
...
thanks, bob! i appreciate the support.
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drakonis said 3277 days ago (July 6th, 2008)
Awesome!
(this is Drak's daughter...)
This song is great! While listening to this song, i got the feeling like there was a narrator who was hiding a world of inner anguish and discomfort (maybe insanity) behind a protective facade. I thought maybe if you ended up re-doing the lyrics, it could be the narrator telling a friend or lover that all is not as it seems, that he's not safe to be around anymore. Trying to candy-coat "get away from me" as best he can with only half a mind or a murderous intent? If you're interested, I would love to help put some lyrics together with you! (Send a note to my dad).
I really liked the chord changes you incorporated into the tune, it gave the song a very manic, unpredictable, swinging feel, which (TEENAGER) I think is a good thing. (Backs away uncomfortably under the glares of normal people).
Peace out
XNovemberX
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12parsecs said 3277 days ago (July 7th, 2008)
coolness
i like your take on the lyrics! i guess on a subconscious level that is kinda what i was going for. (wait, that means on some level i may be insane? but aren't we all? no? ahem, moving on then!)

thanks for checking out this tune and giving me your opinion. i'm glad the music conveyed some edge, some manic unpredictability.
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Doadars Uncle said 3276 days ago (July 7th, 2008)
Wow!
Nice dynamic shift!

Great changes. I love the instrument choices.

Great song!
Doug
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12parsecs said 3276 days ago (July 8th, 2008)
instruments
thanks. yeah cubase comes with some decent VSTi synths/samplers. both the cello and rhodes were from the included halion1 synth. thanks for listening!
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DWL said 3276 days ago (July 8th, 2008)
A class offering
beautifully put together. Powerful and very well played.

Your voice is very good yet you're hiding it.

Sing out :-)

Excellent stuff.

Cheers

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12parsecs said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
classy comment!
thanks for the comment, dwl! yes, you are right... need to bring the vox up. i might remix this and put it up again at some point. thanks for listening!
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Nick_Flash said 3275 days ago (July 8th, 2008)
damn
This kicks ass man! The choruses are cool the way they kick in and slam. The production sounds great as well.

I'll be checking out more of your work soon.
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12parsecs said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
flash!
hey nick, thanks for the kind words! g'head and check out my other tunes, by all means. i hope the manage to kick some ass too. thanks for checking this one out!
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E-Frame Wrecker said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
Good song!
I had a little trouble hearing the vocals in the beginning, could be my powerbook's speakers. I liked the Chorus, particularly that major 3rd you hit in the melody. Had a very contemporary sound to it. Well done. Oh and I really liked the transition from the chorus back to the verse. Nice work. =)
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12parsecs said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
verse vocals.
it's not just your laptop, the verse vocals are a little low (as are the choruses, most likely) and the verse vocals were also sung in falsetto - making them soft and hard to make out what i'm saying. i'll work on that for a possible remix of this song, and for future tunes. thanks for the comment!
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tokai said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
Yep
that is great great voice, fantastic guitar playing. Well performed piece and great mix. Top track in all aspects, love this sound...cheers
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12parsecs said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
Yep Yep
thanks, tokai. i appreciate your stopping by and having a listen. cheers!
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said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
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AWSOME> Love it.

Peace Dee.
12parsecs said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
awe
thanks, dee! i can always count on you to be in my corner. i'm glad you enjoyed it. thanks for the comment!
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Foinix said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
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Awesome tune. Man, I really like your vocals. Great job on this one.
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12parsecs said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
welcome!
thanks for stopping by and checking out my tune. and welcome to MJ!
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obbster said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
Great vocals on the verses
Great track. Very well produced. Really like the sound of the vocals on the verses and the chorus rocks.

Cheers.
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12parsecs said 3275 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
thanks!
i appreciate your comments about the verse vox. falsetto is so hit and miss... some people like it, some completely hate it. regardless, they need to come up a dB - as people have mentioned. thanks for checking it out, obbster!
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Ibstrat said 3274 days ago (July 9th, 2008)
It's
really quite amazing how good this sounds.There are lots of layers here- the guitars are superb, great sound and perfect mix.I actually like the vocal mix.A little distant but it fits the song.Or maybe I'm such a guitar head that I'm listening to the guitar more than the vocal!
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12parsecs said 3274 days ago (July 10th, 2008)
mix.
thanks for the comment mark! (or should i call you mr strat?) i like that you listen for the gtrs, just like me! ha! i think the verse vocal level sounds fine too, but only in the headphones. i probably should bring them up. as for the chorus vocal levels, some humming and hawing still required. thanks for stopping by!
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ageofthedeathtree said 3273 days ago (July 11th, 2008)
WOW!
this is amazing man! i love it! i can't believe i haven't heard you before....but it's probably because i keep my plate so full is overflowing. this is absolutely great though, hats off man! WOW!!!!

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12parsecs said 3273 days ago (July 11th, 2008)
age
thanks for checking it out! glad you're keeping busy - hopefully cooking up some music. i'll have to check out your stuff and see what you are up to. thanks again!
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Mokus said 3273 days ago (July 11th, 2008)
Nice...
Killer song -- I really love the vibe of the verses! Great VOX! I look forward to hearing more...

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12parsecs said 3273 days ago (July 11th, 2008)
cheers!
thanks for checking it out, bono... er, ummm, mokus. :) digging your latest too!
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Mckenzie said 3273 days ago (July 11th, 2008)
hmm..
the fact that you seem to be achieving evrything i LOOK to achieve is starting you make me sad (your sounds, your structures, arrangements etc). Seriously though, i could hear influences of 'Muse' in those choruses loud and clear. But it's the contrasting verses that do it for me.. they're perfect. I love your work.

ps dont worry - i'm not genuinley sad ..... more.. 'inspired'
thanks
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12parsecs said 3273 days ago (July 11th, 2008)
don't worry, be happy.
actually, that should read 'don't be sad, you are well on your way' imo. yeah, i totally heard 'muscle musium' after i started tracking the chorus gtrs. thanks for listening! i look fwd to your next post!
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somebuddy said 3268 days ago (July 16th, 2008)
Sweet
This song has some great transitions: clean-distortion, minor-major, different rhythms, cool stuff! The strum pattern, rhythm on the chorus is awesome too - very catchy!

Can't wait to hear the next one.
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somebuddy said 3268 days ago (July 16th, 2008)
PS
P.S. - how far exactly is a Parsec? :)
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12parsecs said 3267 days ago (July 16th, 2008)
cheers!
thanks for the comment. yeah, the strum pattern is pretty unique. so much so, that it differs from verse to verse. (it was an accident, but it felt cool... so i continued with it.)

as for a parsec, it is apprx. 3.3 light years, or just over 30 trillion kilometres. (ah, wikipedia. :) or 1/12 of my name.
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12parsecs said 3267 days ago (July 17th, 2008)
edit...
sorry, the strumming pattern changes from chorus to chorus. i'll be alright. :)
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kallocain said 3263 days ago (July 20th, 2008)
nice!
love the harmonies in the verse riff. and then the intensity raise in the choruses. the tightrope walking between major and minor is art that catches me severe.
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12parsecs said 3263 days ago (July 21st, 2008)
M vs m
thanks. i also like the tightrope walk between major and minor. though most of the time, as with this one, i try not to think about it to much... i just go with what feels right. major, minor, mixolydian, whatever it may be. thanks for the comment!

ps. i don't really know what the mixolydian mode is. i just like to say 'mixolydian' cause it makes me sound cool. :)
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michael2 said 3258 days ago (July 26th, 2008)
nice
love that unexpected little change during the beginning picking parts. and of course your sense of melody is really great. how long do you spend mixing? the efforts really show. maybe i need to spend more than 20 minutes after all.
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12parsecs said 3258 days ago (July 26th, 2008)
tha mix.
thanks again for listening and commenting, michael. i do spend considerable time with a mix. i kinda mix as i go, so i can't tell you exactly how long i spend on a typical mix. i'll mention this, though... a very big mix engineer who mixed a couple of my former bands EPs spent, typically, a 10 hour day per song mixing. now, that's just the impression i got from him working on our stuff... perhaps he usually spends more time per song for bigger act, maybe less. and i'm sure it varies from song to song.

anyway, knowing this allows me to not feel 'stupid' for putting anywhere from 2-8 hours into a mix of my own. i don't think i ever put less than an hour into a mix and master. (though, the singer in my old band always asked for a 'quicksie mixie' on our self made demos... ughhh. hated that term. anyway, he's coming over today to do some vocals on a couple tunes we wrote/tracked together recently. i'll let you know how that goes. maybe even post the track, if he's into that.)
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