Particular Charisma [Explicit] by lengold
Genre: Alternative Rock
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Keywords:
Particular (1), Charisma (2)
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Massive thank you to the lovely Becca Johnson for her impeccable vocal skills.
Big thanks also to Stephen Lang he knows why. Thanks also to Alan (APB) for his advice.
Get Down.
Big thanks also to Stephen Lang he knows why. Thanks also to Alan (APB) for his advice.
Get Down.
Lyrics:
(I Told You Once, I Told You TwiceKeep Out of My Business)
You Have a Particular Charisma
I'll Have to Give You That
But You're Gonna Have to Learn Quickly
Grow Up, Stop Being a Brat
They'll Eat You
They'll Use You
They'll Spit You Out
They'll Love You
They'll Hate You
They'll Make You Shout
They'll Do You
They'll Kill You
They'll Take a Lot
They'll Stick You
They'll Kick You
They'll Call You Hot
Then One Day
You're Old You're Grey
(Told You, Don't Bother,
'Cause I'll Do All You Wanna Do)
You Have a Particular Charisma
You Think You Have All the Skills
Stardom, Massive Plasma
Beverly F*king Hills
Then One Day
You're Old You're Grey
Hardware:
Mac Pro 2.5GHz 8 core 6Gb RAMPRS copy Guitar
M-Audio Keystation 49e
Sontronics STC-2
M-Audio Fast Track Pro Interface
Software:
Logic Pro 8M-Tron Plug-in
Addictive Drums
Melodyne Plug-in
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davisamerica
first .... back in a sec. :-]
davisamerica
I just wanted to fav first on a new Len Gold tune. Huge sound here. What a great vocal pairing with you two. Len your tunes are so worth waiting for. Logic Pro is serving you well. Down and dirty cool is all .... Massive Plasma indeed ! d/l'd
lengold
to see you here Jack and to know you are still around. I really appreciate your support.
Thanks for the lovely comment.
Cheers
Len
Skean
Len, my man this is top notch in many ways.
I'll think this is your best I've heard from ya... ROCK ON... Cheers
lengold
What a great comment. Thanks a million Kenta.
Cheers
Len
TG
Fun and funky, great job to all! Top notch stuff
TG
I just saw Kenta used top notch before me, heh :D
lengold
Tom - I was just listening to your collab with craft - fantastic.
When are we going to hear something from you? I really miss your music.
Thanks for the very kind comment Tom - I don't mind hearing 'top notch' over and over.
Cheers
Len
Feter
this is one of your best rockin songts myt friend ...a real blast !!!
lengold
Thanks as always Feter, love your latest collaboration.
Cheers
Len
WillyB
Very creative and fantastic vibe, as usual, Len. Nice vocals on both parts and I loved those lead sounds going on at the beginning.
lengold
of you to listen and comment Wiily. Becca has a fantastic voice, please check out her stuff, if you get the chance.
Thanks again.
Cheers
Len
Vic Holman
excellent tune I was really digging the tribal beat for starters.
the trade off and the effected vocals are chariasmatically confident.
fantastic work by all involved.
lengold
Really pleased you liked this Vic - thanks for your continued support. It is very appreciated.
Cheers
Len
Diviner
Loved it from the start. The drums are great and the rest of the music sits so well. Really impressed, I think this one is the best produced track so far. The only only thing against this tack is the sudden finish, however that is so small compared to the rest of the track. The vocals are really good and well sung, both by you and of course Becca. Brilliant track Len.
lengold
much for the great comments Keith - I think that Becca's voice really helped too. I always have a problem with the ending of songs, nothing seems to work very well.
Thanks again.
Cheers
Len
DWL
Fantastic, what a start!
Where does that big guitar sound come from?
Becca's voice is simply excellent and works really well with your spoken/declamatory style.
I loved the short "interludes" where you introduce new sounds.
Amazing creativity and invention :)
Downloaded.
Cheers
Dick
lengold
Overwhelmed by your comments Dick - really appreciated.
Cheers
Len
stevel
Great big production to this one...epic. Good vocals and some nice lead guitar playing you have going on here!
Nice to see that Beverly Hills lyric making its appearance too hehe
Steve
lengold
Steve - so pleased you liked it. It all stemmed from you.
Thanks again.
Cheers
Len
egobandit
great drums and git love the back and forth in the singing. Great collab!Excellent! Then end on this was crazy loved the bass Wow!
lengold
the comments and your support Tim - appreciated as always.
Cheers
Len
Robert Rayner
Great song Len.
Yours and Beckys vocals really do compliment each others so well.
Fantastic drum and bass!
lengold
have a wonderful recording voice - it lifts any song.
Thanks for the lovely comments and hope to see you soon.
Cheers
Len
Rocha Malhada
Probably the kit and beat you have going here - but this reminds me of a Native American Rock style. Cool stuff, Len. Becca's vox are a nice touch-
DL'd.... Thanks
. - Harold
lengold
to not knowing much about Native American Rock - but I would love to hear some.
Love it when people download. Thanks Harold.
Cheers
Len
PickQuickRecords
The beat is very hypnotic. Your's and Becca's vocals compliment each other VERY well. Really a fun listen.
I was snapping my fingers all the way through.
Great collab guys!
Awesome stuff for sure.
lengold
Really pleased you liked this Chris. I agree that our voices do go well together - a bit like beauty and the beast.
Thanks for the comment - really appreciated.
Cheers
Len
Ibstrat
cool.You are somehow in touch with an elusive creative dimension that most people(including me) cannot locate.Love that guitar!
lengold
- I just wish that I had one hundreth of your guitar talent.
Thanks, as always, for the very encouraging comment.
Cheers
Len
Henke
Really, this got to be an MJ hit.
I can hear a bit of BigFinish in this, although it's slightly tougher in style then that, but still very nice. Well done!
/Henke
lengold
take the BigFinish comparison as a big compliment. Really pleased you liked this.
Thanks for the comment - appreciated.
Cheers
Len
Peter Bauckham
this is awesome!
Peter
lengold
Peter - really pleased you liked it. Hope to see you soon.
Cheers
Len
lavalamp
Love that beat. Great original, tasty sounds. Becca's vox were a nice accessory to this driving tune.
Lead was soooo cooool.
Great one Len,
Dave
lengold
I am really pleased that I asked Becca to sing on this - it was an on the spur thing as we were together last weekend. I really love her voice.
Thanks for your support - appreciated.
Cheers
Len
tokai
its another smash and grab tune, like it man! Great husky voice box, with splendid lyrics. Great tune Len, what effect you put on your vox? Got to upgrade to logic 8.
lengold
Yes, you must upgrade - it really is worth it. I had 7 of my vocal tracks and 3 of Becca's each with a ridiculous amount of plug-ins. Together with the many instrument tracks again all with lots of plug-ins. Even my mac pro with 6GB was really struggling and kept freezing on me. So, too many effects all at once.
Thanks again Steve. Really pleased you liked it.
Cheers
Len
musichead
Nice low end sound...Im an fan of Logic myself. Real nice melody. Ima fan!!!
lengold
Really pleased you took the time to listen and comment Steve - love the stuff you are doing lately.
Cheers
Len
kristyjo
Thumpin' drums, snakey lead guitar, snarky lyrics, vocals dripping with attitude. What's not to love.
lengold
to see you here Kristyjo - thanks a lot for the nice comment.
Cheers
Len
regulus
into this, it got a great big smile. Imaginative and some good chops make this a fun tune. Quit a cross cut of genre and expressions and so very true.
Keep rock'en and don't stop.
The Infinites
A 1' 40" intro of that standard? - you know you're in for a treat. Great big hypnotic beat with that OTT guitar sound makes my kind of music. Love the sentiment of your lyrics and that addition of Bex's voice is totally appropriate and in at the right places. Then at 3'40" more gigantic guitar to remind us where we started. This song flies by and feels a lot quicker than the total playing time shows. Always a good sign.
Solid piece of work, Len. Did anyone mention Zappa in the house...?
Cheers!
(DL'd)
Jim
lengold
...is a long time.
Very pleased to see you here Richard and many thanks for the very encouraging comment. I will have to get a rock'en chair soon.
Cheers
Len
lengold
Jim - really pleased you liked it. This one seemed to take a lot longer than usual. Instead of rushing with it - I spent a lot of time just tweaking - it seems to have paid off. I am usually just too impatient to get them finished. I love Becca's voice.
Thanks for the Zappa comparison - very pleased with that, used to be a big fan.
Always happy when someone downloads too. Thanks again Jim. I'd love to buy you a GandT - ever get to London?
Cheers
Len
BeccaJohnson
Thank you for having me on this song...it is always a pleasure to work with u and always fun!
it sounds as I said fantastic and it is the best work of urs so far!!!!Congratulations!
Big Respect,
love Bex
lengold
No THANK YOU.
I think that you really lifted the song - I love your voice.
Really pleased you liked the way it turned out. Maybe we should do a proper duet some time.
See you soon - I hope.
Love
Len
Doadars Uncle
Talking Heads with a Tom Waits theme.
Great environment! Cool song. Aside from the great theme, I really like the vocals and guitar parts. This has a complex feel to it, dark.
Well done!
lengold
happy that you liked this Doug. It's a song that just seemed to evolve on its own. Really appreciate the comment - thanks.
Cheers
Len
Bob Rodgers
This is fantastic, great song Len!
I love the hugh sound here, the drums, bass and your guitar work is just superb!
The vocals from you and Becca are just great and they really compliment each other, everything goes together so well.
Great sound and production, you are so creative and this is my favourite song from you.
A download for me!
Thanks Len!
Bob
lengold
for some of the nicest comment I've ever had. I think that Becca really brought this alive.
Hope to see you soon and thanks again.
Cheers
Len
tempie
- the intro gives you a look and the next thing you know the tune is grinding on your leg.
this tune is a veritable bag of rock 'n roll tricks - girl/guy vocals, distorted backups, dirty groove, howling guitars, big percussion, paranoid lyrics - love it!
lengold
So nice to think of it 'grinding on your leg' conjures up quite an image.
Really appreciate the comment from a song writer of your ability.
Thanks Craig.
Cheers
Len
apb
Firstly I also think that combining the seemingly quite opposing styles of Becca and your good self was quite mad .. but yet, you both managed to really make it work- the contrast is really very appealing... and fitting to the song.
Secondly, the rocky opening (I thought of Twisted Sister for a sec) turning into more tribal: "I eat cannibals" .. lol kinda drumming, and synth usage- awesome.
Guitar adds that rockier/funky edgyness- extra spice to the big cooking pot .. the solo serves the song (if you added a little wild wahing .. would have reminded me of earlier Prince)... another class addition.
Only additions I would suggest are to end that wicked funky 80s breakdown section with a short dead-stop before continuing into the short outro/fade (around 5:19) .. perhaps a short reversed vamp or just snare perhaps to bridge the gap. And, perhaps to re-look at how your effecting your voice: I'd ease of a little on the kinda megaphone-esque touch in general.. and perhaps just a very short echo/reverb/delay .. I liked the variation at the 3:04 section (but I don't mean as much as that for the verses).
Most impressive and accomplished upload I've heard from you Len by far.. alot of hard work went into this and it's paying dividends... no idea why I got a mention, but if I helped in some way for you to produce this fine example of your work .. I'm well chuffed, thanks my friend and thanks for the copy I now have :o)
lengold
Thank you for your wonderful comments Alan, really appreciate the advice too.
When you are listening to your own stuff alone at home, you sometimes need to reach out for some advice and confirmation of what you are already thinking.
Thanks for letting me reach out.
Cheers
Len
guitapick
...you're choice of vocal timbre (both of you) and guitar solos is perfect for this tune.
Great lyrics.
lengold
Really appreciate your listen and comment Bob. Off to listen to your latest.
Cheers
Len
ted23
This track oozes coolness! So well done.
The beat and feel is awesome.
Great work.
lengold
Thanks Ted for the very complimentary comment - really pleased you liked it.
Cheers
Len
dajama
Love this. The drums are excellent, and the lyrics are expressive and very well crafted. Nice mix of sounds throughout. The vocals are really done well (by you both!) and the mix is great. Very cool. Totally should be on the radio! Nicely done, my friend. Kudos. Peace.
lengold
seeing you here David, I am so pleased that Becca sang on it - she really has a lovely voice.
Wouldn't it be wonderful to hear your song on the radio - a bit like winning the lottery.
Thanks for the lovely comments and your continuing support.
Cheers
Len
Go_Turtle_Go
you took your skills a step further. lot of changes and boldness, i have no other word for the latter feeling. one of my old friends would so dig this (and thus I). good violin stabs, wicked guitar playing and becca sounds very convincing and sexy. whoa track!
Go_Turtle_Go
one point of critique, is the snares. i think they are overcompressed, i do know that is your forte. so my mind sticks to the first comment.
lengold
Great to hear from you Marc - I really hope things are still good for you. So pleased you liked it and thanks for the great comments. I will re-think my snare sounds. Hope to hear something from you soon. All the best.
Cheers
Len
particledots
Amazing
What a massive sound you have realised here
I tip my hat to ya
Have to say it again
Amazing
lengold
What can I say except a massive thank you? Your comments mean a lot to me.
Cheers
Len
Macaudion
...hee hee...
It brought thoughts to a mindless state...
It made my body move when I really didn't feel like it.
As tired as I am, it energized me in ways that clearly, I couldn't have imagined.
Thanks Len and Becca! Yeah..., it even encouraged me to comment though, I had fully committed to the shameful and unthinkable, a drive by...
You always throw down, Len
Macca
lengold
So pleased you didn't just drive by (I know how tempting it gets) Macca - you are one of my very favourite commenters - always amusing.
Isn't it about time we heard something new from you. I miss hearing your great productions.
Many thanks.
Cheers
Len
dolby
I'm ashamed to say that I haven't visited your pages nearly enough Len - for which apologies. This is incredible! What a big sound - sounds like it's been produced by Trevor Horn for an old ZTT band - really massive 80's funk sound, and as others have said, the dual vocals work superbly.
Really great stuff! The "told you once' refrain is magic -
Phil
lengold
The 'told you once' refrain from Becca is also my favourite part - she really is massively talented. She just sings it once, absolutely effortlessly, and the mic captures the magic.
So pleased you did visit Phil - very appreciated.
Cheers
Len
bud
love the use of strings and the vocals trades are great. Nice beats and guitar too. The ending is aces.
lengold
bud for the listen and comment always great to see you here. Appreciated.
Cheers
Len
five_extra_arms
Len, I really love your guitar work on this little number. You got all leady on us. Cool.
Becca's vocals are really wondermous. What a great team effort.
You always have this primal rhythmic sense and this is proof positive of that gift. I always said that Vic Holman would be my drummer if I had a band, but maybe I'll have 2 drummers? Just a thought.
Thanks for a energetic and fantastic tune.
Bob
lengold
She can sing, that's for sure.
You know, you are the only one that picked up on that (maybe subconciously) there are actually two drum kits playing. I've always loved bands with two kits and always been a frustrated drummer - I'd love to be one of the two drummers in your band. I used to like the drums in a British band fronted by someone not now mentionable. Don't know if he was known in the States.
Thanks, as always, for the listen Bob and take care.
Cheers
Len
kassia
wow wow. deep and heavy, full and lush sound. awesome guitars and great beats. I loved that long intro, then when the vocals kick in...wow. incredible stuff. the mix/production on this is perfect. Total download for the ipod.
lengold
of you to leave such a lovely comment Shay - very appreciated. Very happy to think I might be on your ipod.
Cheers
Len
jiguma
You are really developing a recognisable sound - the "bigness" of this sounds great (isn't Logic Pro 8 a buzz!). Love the guitars, bass and percs especially. Interesting vocally/lyrically.
Like it a lot Len!
Neil
lengold
you liked it Neil. I seem to be obsessed with Logic at the moment. The more I learn the more I need to learn.
Cheers
Len
mvh9591
Like the vocals and effects used. Nice track.
Thanks for sharing,
mvh : )
lengold
happy that you liked this Michael. Re-listening to Fortuitous Storm as I key this. Fantastic.
Cheers
Len
Studioplayer
Creative piece of work. Some cool bit and pieces happening. A little bit long for my taste. Wouldn't mind hearing a shortened, tighter version of this. Took a long time to get to the vocals and lots of instrumental in between. Nice work guys.
lengold
Macjams David - listened to a couple of your tracks on myspace and looking forward to hearing them here.
Thanks for the listen, comment and critique - appreciated.
Cheers
Len
echoroom
Mr Gold top of the harts again... and no bloody wonder. Raw and inventive, this is a real stunner Len - really catchy and commercial but with a dark edge.
Wowsa
lengold
Mr Craig, saw you briefly sign in earlier - Nigeria???
I really appreciate the visit, lovely comment and support Steve. Hope you are well and look forward to hearing something from you, soon I hope, please.
Take care on your travels and Cheers.
Len
very cool vocals and luv the guitar sound and a great beat. You definately know what your doing.
lengold
Really appreciate the listen and comment Anthony. Pleased you liked it. Actually I haven't got a clue what I'm doing - just follow my nose, but am very pleased that it might seem like I do.
Cheers
Len
cchaplin
I'm late to the party... and what a party ! Is that you playing the guitar ? Great sound, love the lyrics, the singing from Becca and you is very powerful, and the production is amazing. How do you do it ??
lengold
Really pleased you liked this Christopher, yes it's me playing the guitar. Thanks for the listen and comment - especially appreciated.
Cheers
Len
that80sboy
somedays i feel that....this song has some cool chops...rocks baby!
lengold
just keep clear of mirrors.
Thanks for the comment - appreciated.
Cheers
Len
MarkHolbrook
This is HUGE SOUND! Excellent in all aspects and now HOW DID I MISS THIS!!!??? Dang!
Excellent Len Excellent!
lengold
Mark.
Cheers
Len
VicDiesel
the female vocal. (Yours is not bad at all, but Becca's part really brings this to life.) And that bass. Awesome sound.
Pretty cool song overall.
lengold
Vic.
Cheers
Len
paddler
My this song has balls! - very cutting edge and hard lyrics - great collaboration.Love the percussion - sounds like a load of cutler being thrown in a kitchen and someone kicking the door in.excellent - Rich
lengold
you guess that's how I did the percussion?
Thanks a lot Rich - appreciated. Great to see you back.
Cheers
Len
Bowman
Great ride.
lengold
for commenting Charles - really appreciated.
Cheers
Len
HenriROGERsoloandbands
Love the voices and the energy.
lengold
for the visit and comment Henri - very appreciated.
Cheers
Len
Savage_Beast
Much enjoyed and liked the album art as well.
lengold
of you to listen and comment really appreciated.
Cheers
Len
woofer3
very full - love the vocals - elements of Zappa's Dangerous Kitchen but more user friendly I think.
Good onya,
John
lengold
the visit and comment John - any Zappa comparison is always welcome.
Cheers
Len
craft
love those drums.. Great guitar and strong voice.. This sounds from a Tim Burton's movie...
lengold
of you to comment craft and thanks for the fave too - very appreciated.
Cheers
Len
thoddi
This beat made me sway in the chair. Very cool groove. Sort of industrial feel to it.
The rhythm things you do after "look out" --> ultra cool!
You lucky man to get Becca to join you in this:)
You both did a good job here.
lengold
of you to visit and comment thoddi. Yes, I was very lucky to have Becca sing on this, she has a fantastic voice.
Cheers
Len
chronologic
I'm glad I found this. Thanks for helping me get here! This is a very nice addition to the world of musical cacophony! And yes I do mean that as a big compliment. :) Awesome!
lengold
Thank you very much for the compliment - very appreciated.
Cheers
Len
Dj French Toast
Devo ,David Bowie and Britney all mixed in one ball of happiness . Cool song Len G . Becca has such a powerful sound . You guys meshed well . Good stuff man .
lengold
wondered where you had gone the other day - great to see you back and many thanks for the lovely comment - always appreciated.
Cheers
Len
NomadicMind
huge modern tribal sound
catchy as all get out in a beastly way
kudos
lengold
the comment and listen. Thanks.
Cheers
Len
richardhowardjones
Damn, Len. I'd love to work on the backing track of this. Pink Floyd eat your heart out!
lengold
the comment Richard - appreciated. If you want the files just let me know.
Cheers
Len
ktb
what a monster groove you create. Your vocals sound great together. Love it
lengold
of you to visit and comment John - very appreciated.
Cheers
Len
BossHook
opening kicks in like the best Spector tunes, what a hook. Cool guitar tone and a very unique style that incorporates a bit of glam, a bit of industrial and a whole lot of attitude!
lengold
dropping by and commenting John - appreciated.
Cheers
Len
leap4rog
First off-- this is perfect. So let me try to f*ck it up.
As I listened I wanted the male voice to be stronger. I also wanted the something extra that hits at 5:04 to come a littler earlier-- I don't know, maybe I'm an impatient listener. But I wanted to be taken out a little stronger.
But this is great. I loved the industrial stylings. I reminds me of a Fernand Léger painting. (http://jerryandmartha.com/yourdailyart/images/leger.jpg)
lengold
taking the time to listen and comment Chris - appreciated. Unusual picture.
Cheers
Len
SISTERS
i love the gigantic drums that start this off - and the song never loses that energy.
i like the long intro - it gave the song plenty of time to get under my skin.
ooooo - sexy vocals on ms becca, and you team up with her very nicely in the sing deparment, len.
this is just a GIANT of a sound - more more MORE, please!
anne
lengold
have made my day - I am so pleased to see you back here.
I was so happy to have Becca on this one - I think she brought it alive.
Thanks & Cheers
Len
smokey bacon jnr
Love the drums on this! Massive rhythm and groove with the bassline (which is awesome). The only thing I would criticise is the the lyrics - not the singing but the actual words themselves. They just felt a bit weak to me - rhyming that and brat seemed a bit forced - not a natural flow. Same with skills and Beverley Hills. I admire anyone who attempts to write a lyric, it's really putting yourself on the line, but I wasn't convinced by this one. Bloody good tune though.
lengold
Thanks for the listen and comment smokey - glad you liked it. I am the first to admit that lyrics really aren't my strong suit. I am absolutely useless at the poetry type of lyric much as I would like to be.
Cheers
Len
Outtaorbit
I wanna smash something. I wanna break something up!!!!!
This rocks.
lengold
stopping by Patrick - very appreciated. You are far enough away for me to say 'Break something up then!'
Cheers
Len
sonnyjim
Lots of glam creeping in around the edges...... some new wave battling for attention, too. Great synths, SOLID guitars. Becca sounds smoking. Fine song.
lengold
you taking the time to listen and comment Jim. Thanks.
Cheers
Len
rsolorio
Great track Len. Love your vocal delivery and the wall of musical texture behind pushing it the whole way.
lengold
of you to listen Roy - thanks for the encouraging comment - appreciated.
Cheers
Len
davisamerica
still pimping
lengold
You are a diamond.
Cheers
Len
SmokeyVW
what a beat! infectious
thanks
your voice has the timbre of one of the guys from Human League
lengold
of you to listen Bill - a comment from you is always very appreciated.
Cheers
Len
magnatone
How did I miss this??? Luckily, Jack was pimping it in chat today, so I finally got the bat signal! Great song Len - you are a real pro on every level - thanks!
lengold
such a good bloke.
Thanks for the listen Karen and great comment. Wouldn't it be wonderful if it was possible to make money sitting at home and doing this stuff? But, I daydream.... must get ready for work now (ugh).
Cheers
Len
hongshan
Len,
This is one great mother of a song! Who's the girl doing the harmonies (very sleek and spunky). I dig the lyrics - they ring true. Good stuff and guitar effects are sooooo groovy!
Micky
lengold
Thanks for dropping by and the lovely comment. Becca Johnson is the female singer, there is a link to her page in the description above if you want to check out her songs.
She also sings on my latest http://www.macjams.com/song/50670 in which she sings very sexily.
Thanks again.
Cheers
Len
empty_sea
Love the big sound and I see why you say 'Massive thank you to the lovely Becca Johnson' you two doo sound good together - only one minor criticism:
the lead guitar in the intro is a bit loose (timing wise) and might have been better with it being a bit more 'off the wall'
Still a good thing you have given us tho.... Thanx
lengold
taking the time to listen and comment Mick - appreciated.
Cheers
Len
T_Being_esq
and loved.
lengold
you dropped by and commented - appreciated.
Cheers
Len
K.I.S.KISMET
now i can't wipe this ornery grin off my face. super duper vocals on both parts, and i especially loved the cheeky flavor overall.
lengold
much for the visit and comment. Very pleased you liked it.
Cheers
Len
ramonaji
Cause soon I'm going to use up my hard drive! I'm listening and downloading... soon I'll make a CD!
Awesome stuff! I really dig it!!
lengold
Many thanks again.
Cheers
Len
Daugrin
Nice surfy guitar, Snuffy approved nasal tone. Again, nice Roxy vibe without the cool detachment that was the trademark there. My ears keep looking for the sax. It's my problem, this knock is vey satisfying.
Daugrin
lengold
Never been compared to them before, would love to have sax on here.
Thanks again - appreciated.
Cheers
Len