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Michael 2 had sent me his files for Stella Too and was wondering if I would like to play around with it. Well yeah!
Michael's original was a acoustic version that he posted back in July.

So I did a re-mix of the tune and added an additional 3 guitar tracks.

Thanks Michael for letting me play around with excellent tune.
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Lyrics
you won't say where you've been
but everybody knows
you've been out with him

there's a little girl at home
but you dropped out of school
so you could work at night

Chorus:
you're life isn't going
how you thought it would
i hope that
you don't make the same mistakes i did
it's time to figure out
exactly what to do with you
and Stella too

your boy is finally home
a mustache on his face
so you kicked him to the curb

you got lots of bills to pay
childcare ain't cheap
what you gonna do?

Chorus:
you're life isn't going
how you thought it would
i hope that
you don't make the same mistakes i did
it's time to figure out
exactly what to do with you
and Stella too

what's your angle?
are you looking for attention?
you're not stupid
but i'm beginning to wonder
it's time to figure
out exactly what to do about
Stella too
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Comments: 28
Fans: 36
Plays: 117
Downloads: 124

Uploaded: Nov 16, 2008 - 04:03:19 PM
Last Updated: Nov 16, 2008 - 04:03:19 PM Last Played: Jan 28, 2017 - 09:08:51 PM
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Comments
Skean said 3289 days ago (November 16th, 2008)
Wow
Great collab guys... I just have to say I LOVE IT... TX
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Vic Holman said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
Thanks Kenta
i was a bit surprised when Michael asked me if I wanted to play around on his excellent tune
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lavalamp said 3289 days ago (November 16th, 2008)
Beautiful
This makes me happy to part of this MJ family. I liked this a lot when M2 did it. But, with Vic, it sounds even more sensational. Fantastic guitar work. Did I mention Elliott Smith on your original? I wonder.

Awesome piece of songwriting.

Dave
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Vic Holman said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
Hey Dave
when Michael sent me the files and i opened it up my first reply was "are you sure?" It is such a great song as he had it.

funny thing, i played this for two different people at work today and they both said 'Elliot Smith'
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lavalamp said 3288 days ago (November 18th, 2008)
see
See?, I've got a good ear. lol

Dave
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buckhorn said 3289 days ago (November 16th, 2008)
Great
I dug it before, I seriously love it now. Wonderful production of a great tune. Better than the junk on the radio. Bravo.
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Vic Holman said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
better then junk on the radio...
...now that would make a cool band name.

I'm pretty surprised that Michael asked me to do something with his song.
I guess that's just the cool guy that he is.
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regulus said 3289 days ago (November 16th, 2008)
This is
soooooo professional it hit me as a song right out of the sixties early 70's ala SimonGarfunk.

There are no rules in Love, War and Music.

This is so clean and balances it takes me back to Hollywood and the Love In's. Thanks for the trip back to a golden age. Had you been there then you would have been a superstar, not that your not here now.

Love it, gonna take it home with me.

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Vic Holman said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
originally
on Michaels original he mentioned that he had a bit of a Loggins and Messina influence. So when i remixed his harmony vocals i wanted them to have some of that quality that was in fashion back in those days.

thanks for the listen. very much appreciated
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Ed Hannifin said 3289 days ago (November 16th, 2008)
Want...to...vote...
What a cool blend of the Vic and the Michael...

Poppy, spangly, bopping along... More than a touch of Big Star in this one..

That would be a GOOD thing...

Ed
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Vic Holman said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
Hi Ed
I got the files friday night. Michael mentioned it as a pop song. So Sat. morning i brought out my epiphone dot semi hollowbody for that cool jangle sound and went for it. I think he tried to throw me off. he recorded his parts in a Eb key.
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Ed Hannifin said 3286 days ago (November 19th, 2008)
Eb?
You did tell him you're a GUITARIST, right?

That's so wrong....

Ed
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Vic Holman said 3286 days ago (November 19th, 2008)
lucky for me
is that when i was learning to play guitar to hendrix records, i was in standard tuning, and hendrix played a step down. no one ever told me you could tune down. so it came in handy after all.
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segiperkasa said 3289 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
cool...
Awesome song..... cool stuff...
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Vic Holman said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
thanks very much
we appreciate the listen!
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DWL said 3289 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
Brilliant song
wonderful vocals, great lyrics and excellent musicianship.

Lost for words and in awe :-)

Cheers

Dick





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Vic Holman said 3287 days ago (November 18th, 2008)
Thanks Dick
I'm glad that Michael gave a chance to play around with this. I tried to stay as a sideman and operate the shiny buttons.
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dolby said 3289 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
Love...
...the harmony vocals especially - just wonderful.

If I'm allowed a (tiny, weeny) little bit of criticism I would suggest that there is just a bit too much guitar in this - you're playing some wonderful, interesting lines and some sterling countermelodies, but I feel it could breath a little more often, maybe drop the guitar out in places, bring it back as an accent (aww, you get the idea!) etc etc

Enjoyed -
Phil
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Vic Holman said 3287 days ago (November 18th, 2008)
Thanks Phil
i see what you're saying. there may of been a few spots i may of done differently. it's always after the fact, huh?
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lengold said 3289 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
Wonderful sounds
...this just sounds so Beatleish to me - great harmonies and lovely music and mix.
Cheers
Len


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Vic Holman said 3287 days ago (November 18th, 2008)
Thanks Len
beatlish is what i thought. so i used a semihollow body electric to get that early g. harrison sound to brighten it up some. In the remix i wanted Michaels vocal harmonies to really shine.
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tempie said 3289 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
stella
really really wonderful. the acoustic guitar is fantastic and of course the composition is great as expected but the very best thing about this tune is that it's a complete joy to listen to. thanks!
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Vic Holman said 3287 days ago (November 18th, 2008)
whats cool
is that there are now 3 versions of this song. It's interesting how all three can be a bit different.

I'm glad you appreciated the song.
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MarkHolbrook said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
Wow
I love the deep guitars left/right. Personally I'm not too fond of the lead. I could have used more deep soulful lead. Just me probably.

Still the guitars, vocals are as expected amazing.

Wonderful guys! Thanks!
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Vic Holman said 3287 days ago (November 18th, 2008)
Thanks Mark
this was pretty spontanious for me. once i learned the song and figured what i was going to do. i want for a real clean sound, including the lead. thinking about it now i probably could of had double tracked the lead, switch to the neck pickup to fatten it up.
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ktb said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
two stella's
and I luv em both. Just migrated from listening to Mr. Bouchards version, and Mj continues to amaze me at the wealth of talent. Totally dig those guitars. Great upbeat vibe. Did you layer in some vox as well?
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Vic Holman said 3286 days ago (November 19th, 2008)
three stellas
there are actually three stellas. Michael originally released a acoustic version. I was surprised that he asked Jim and I to play around with it. Michael did all the vocals. they're great harmonies that I wanted to really bring out.
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michael2 said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
wow vic
i just realized i hadn't given a public commendation to you. great work on this one. i know it must have been rough as I gave out such a sloppy file, the guitar was tuned to god knows what with a capo on an un-remembered fret, and other odd little things. always love what you do and projects with you are a blast. thanks.
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Vic Holman said 3286 days ago (November 19th, 2008)
thanks dude
for letting me play around. even though it was in a flat key (icouldn't tell if you tuned up or down) for some reason i latched on to this pretty quick.

i kept "asking are you sure?" to have me play on it. I'm glad I did. as i enjoyed it.
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Feter said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
Stella Too
YEAH the heart of the classical 60s ..and particularly
beatlish vibes ...what a wonderful colab bros ..Michael
voice is just fit right like any of his ..good job Vic
with the new setting and guitars ...its just a classic
colab ...deepest bow !!!!
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Vic Holman said 3286 days ago (November 19th, 2008)
thank you Feter
I thought it would be cool to use a semi hollowbody guitar to get that early Beatle clean sound. It's always a pleasure to be able to play on a M2 song
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egobandit said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
ah ha
a little vic goes along way, tooo coool!
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Vic Holman said 3285 days ago (November 20th, 2008)
Thanks Tim
I made sure i didn't go to long........ just enough to scare away the crows
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guitapick said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
I love...
...this tune. And you've done a great job with it, Vic. So fine.
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Vic Holman said 3285 days ago (November 20th, 2008)
Thanks Bob
i was a bit surprised that Michael asked to work on his tune. I thought his original was fantastic as was. i had fun with this one
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mvh9591 said 3288 days ago (November 17th, 2008)
Sounds great_____
Love the vocal harmony. Nice mix. Enjoyed.

Thanks for sharing,

mvh : )
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Vic Holman said 3285 days ago (November 20th, 2008)
vocals
Michael does great harmonies. i wanted to make those shine in this mix.
you don't come across many great songwriters any more. I'm glad he's here.
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12parsecs said 3288 days ago (November 18th, 2008)
upbeat
i'm digging the reworks of michael's tune! this version (i listened to jim's version earlier) has some great guitar work and, the thing i dig the most, is the beat. totally changes up the feel. more upbeat and, dare i say, cheerful? kinda cool juxtaposed against the heavier lyrics.
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Vic Holman said 3285 days ago (November 20th, 2008)
upbeat
true a heavy message, but when I hear Michael's acoustic it has a upbeat feel. so, i thought why not take it up a notch and give it a bit of a early beatlish flavor.
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Trillian said 3287 days ago (November 18th, 2008)
Wonderful Song
and I love the lyrics. Children don't ask to be born. You are responsible for the life you create no matter how things work out in other areas of your life. Is that your artwork again? Mother & Child - it is beautiful. : )
Vic Holman said 3285 days ago (November 20th, 2008)
Social Services
Michael is a social worker and I'm sure he's seen quite a bit. i knew someone quite well that worked at a crisis nursery. to many sad situations happen.

the art was something that Michael had on his original posting. I stole it. shhh
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dajama said 3287 days ago (November 18th, 2008)
Excellent
This is a great song, and your work on it only adds to it. Excellent stuff. You really add lovely sparkle with the guitar work. A great combination of elements. Nicely done. Peace.
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Vic Holman said 3285 days ago (November 20th, 2008)
Thanks David
originally i thought i would be working on this over several days. but i got so into the swing of it, it ended up being only a couple of hours.
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magnatone said 3287 days ago (November 19th, 2008)
Stella Too
What a WONDERFUL collab you guys. Love your additions here Vic - I always know it'll be great when I see your name!
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Vic Holman said 3285 days ago (November 20th, 2008)
Thanks Karen
I think this is the sixth collab I've done with Michael. hey, that's practically an EP.
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bud said 3286 days ago (November 19th, 2008)
A great song gets better
ain't that the beauty of this place. Excellent collab gents and Vic, your production and additions are wonderful.
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Vic Holman said 3285 days ago (November 20th, 2008)
Thanks Kevin
true, when i first joined I never thought in a million years that collab projects was even thinkable. ah, the computer age
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Bob Rodgers said 3285 days ago (November 20th, 2008)
This is
brilliant, excellent collab and has to be one of my favourites!
Very strong Beatle sound on this and and it's really great Vic to hear you playing your semihollow body electric to get that Harrison sound!

Vocals and harmonies are superb!

Loved it, great stuff!

Bob
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Re-al said 3285 days ago (November 20th, 2008)
Most impressive
i love the 60s sound that just washes into the brain and takes ypu back to the days of vinyl and carefree times.

Harmonies are spot on - wish it was longer, tho'
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Vic Holman said 3284 days ago (November 22nd, 2008)
thanks re-al
60's is the new '08.

of course the songs were shorter back then. it does fly by pretty fast.
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jiguma said 3284 days ago (November 21st, 2008)
George meets Paul
Cool tune - I agree with Phil that there's maybe a bit too much George in places, but the production, playing and song quality kind of mean it doesn't really matter.

Like it a lot!

Neil
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Vic Holman said 3284 days ago (November 22nd, 2008)
Thanks Neil
I've been waiting for a while to do a early beatle clean guitar sound. Michael's song was the perfect vehicle.
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said 3284 days ago (November 22nd, 2008)
SongBots
I don't know how you guys do it, one good song after another in short order, *sheesh*

. - Harold
Vic Holman said 3283 days ago (November 22nd, 2008)
Thanks Harold
"Meet The Songbots"

Songbots........ that's a cool new word.

that would make for a cool idea. Devo does early 60's pop.
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said 3283 days ago (November 22nd, 2008)
I think Michael
got it started in "Sapience (No Codes, Can't Send Notes)"
echoroom said 3283 days ago (November 22nd, 2008)
Sweet
2 towering talents - how could this not be aces?? Really lovely vocals on this, and lovely ringing guitars - another winner guys. Oh, and lyrics i woulda killed to write.

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grizzle said 3273 days ago (December 3rd, 2008)
i...
love everything about this song - the guitar and voice work great together and it has such a happy feeel. def taking this one for the stash.
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