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Recording With Betsy and Company


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The pictue is of the day I recording and the stuff I used included a pan of wather to soften the tips of my playing fingers.
Off to the right you can see something red ?? That is my red jacket I used when i was in Nashville for the cold. I used it to cover my G5 to reduce the noise. The mics in the picture are stereo stick mics I bought when I was in Nashville Tn.
Betsy is my the acoustical guitar I recorded with today and so many of my recordings. A Santa Cruz OM/PW model. Which is a smaller acoustical guitar than a dreadknot.
They are C 451b's. Two of em.
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Uploaded: May 04, 2009 - 08:04:44 PM
Last Updated: May 04, 2009 - 08:04:44 PM Last Played: Sep 04, 2017 - 07:21:29 AM
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Ed Hannifin said 3064 days ago (May 4th, 2009)
I like how well rounded this is, Bill...
It has something going on melodically and harmonically and rhythmically... It sounds like a song and not like a jam... and the recording is clean, with plenty of brightness from the strings, but it's also very warm, with plenty of the guitar's wood coming through...

Ed
thetiler said 3064 days ago (May 4th, 2009)
Thanks Ed
I had a lot of fun with this one. The it is always a challenge to record with medium guaged strings :) Good thing I have that pan of warm water near by to soften the fingertips.
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thetiler said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
You have always been
very perceptive Ed. As CC pointed out I really looked forward to uploading this one because of the way it moves in a bit of light bluesy dance jazz kind of way. I love using these types of arpeggios- chord sequences, Then adding a bit of more straight ahead drama at the end to add a different kind of spice to it. Thanks again Ed !
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Feter said 3064 days ago (May 4th, 2009)
Recording With Betsy and Company
This is so elegant ..so wonderful ...open sky blue ...I just love
how you treated your music and instruments ...this give this a
deeper meaning to me ...thanks alot for sharin such gem !!!!
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thetiler said 3064 days ago (May 4th, 2009)
Thanks
Feter !
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Vic Holman said 3064 days ago (May 4th, 2009)
humble set up
now i thought you would have a massive rack of outboard gear to match your massive tone(even though it's a smaller guitar body). now the foot rest is something i could use as well.

excellent tune Bill
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thetiler said 3064 days ago (May 4th, 2009)
What did you think I was a heavy medal rock icon :)
Now there the ones that's got the big bucks. LIke Metallica's lead guitar player who lives up the hill for me: He has a fortress I heard, He probably has more money in guitar equipment in his closet than I do totally :)
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thetiler said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
Ya the foot rest is great and very helpful
to use. But it can cause problems with the mic poles and base. Because I love to get the mics close as possible I have limited space in which to place the guitar footstool. So there has to be a bit of strategy in placement. Especially the keyboard and the mic correlation and the sound of the G5 fan. Which I try to cover with a heavier coat etc. That red object off to the right is part of the coat I used on this recording to cover the G5 Mac Tower, Dual 2 gig Tower.
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thoddi said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
softened fingertips
Interesting to read that you soften your fingertips... I suspect I would get more sore if I did that... But your music sounds soft and warm... maybe I need to test out that technique:)

Very good recording. Wide and clear. Your playing is marvelous, but of course what I have come to expect from you:)

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thetiler said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
I think
which using the acoustic guitar for so long, I really have very deep calluses on my left hand, so soaking them is not really problematic. It is even good I think when stopping at a phrase of music with a rest, to quickly dip the hand in water with out having the mic pick it up. But it has to be done quick so the mic doesn't pick up the sound. You don't want to sound like your fishing or that you have thrown a stone in the water during the tune :)
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composerclark said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
Beautiful
This is another beautiful one, Bill. It's a good "morning" kind of tune -- sun coming up, quiet house, feeling good -- that's what I'm getting from this tune. Great job.

Softening fingertips? Never heard of that... What hand do you do this to? And where did you get the idea? Just curious.

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thetiler said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
It is for my left
hand which is the finger-fret board hand. It takes a large portion of the squeaks out of the recording. If you desire to get your mics as close as possible around the guitar hole, I recommend highly to get a bowl or pan of warm water. A sweet spot is up around the top of the guitar between the end of the fret-board and the hole of the guitar. So when doing this, especially if you have very hard calluses like I do, I can squeak the heck out of the recording. Plus I use the medium gauged strings which makes it it important to minimize string noise. Because it those gauged strings are harder to press down, which maximizes string squeaks! So I think it is imperative to have a bowl of warm water very near by when recording. Years ago I heard this in a magazine but not sure which magazine. It might of been Fingerstyle Guitar Magazine but not sure.
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Moviz said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
Music
for just Listening to and nothing else... it's just so relaxing and sparkling. I too was surprised at the finger softening technique, but of course it makes sense so as not to get as much 'guitar squeak' as you play.... and nice to see that your fame hasn't sent you out on a buying spree like the guy up the hill LOL. Seriously its nice to see your homely looking recording place.... looks very warm and comfortable..... like your style of playing, regards M
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thetiler said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
Funny thing
Moviz, my wife and I go up a hill and walk our two dogs (actually one is our son's fiancé's dog Roxy a Jack Russel). But all the time that this gigantic house was the Meallica's guitar player's house. Which was almost directly above our (rented) house (were trying to sell our house), but on top of this very large hill. So one day a guy was walking down the hill while we were walking up and I said "hey did you know that that house was Metallica's lead guitar players house". He said heck no, his house is much bigger than that. It is way back in the hill and is gated so their fans can't get through. But I think some do from what I've heard. There was a big stink about it in the paper because there is a pathway that hikers like to take there and now they can't. So any way, it is great walking up the hill. this little Jack Russel gets a tremendous amount of joy and fun chasing lizards:) I have to show more mercy for those lizards and get her from scaring the living dayliights out of em. It must be pretty frightening for them. Cause Roxy is real fast. Our dog Speck has a tough time going up the steep hill cause he is getting older. But they both live it seems to walk up that hill. That and of course food !

Sorry for the rant, thanks for post Moviz. I enjoy hearing your festive songs as well ! it is a style that makes me feel I am on vacation ! Which is a real treat I think !
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Boundless said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
Beautiful
Great tone, composition and playing.

Thanks for sharing !
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thetiler said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
Thanks
for stopping by !
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blindsidedpoets said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
Recording With Betsy and Company
I just love this, as all of your tunes. Thanks for the story behind it, it really draws one in to the ambiance of the tune.
Technical question, where do you place the 2 mics?
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thetiler said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
Very close
to the upper body of the guitar, one mic at the smaller part of the upper body of the guitar between the neck and the fret board and other on the other side of the hole towards the upper body. I try to avoid getting to close to the 1 2 and 3 strings because it has a tendency to sound to tinny .
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MarkHolbrook said 3064 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
Wow Bill
I love this... I never thought of the water trick although my fingers are not has tough as they should be anyway.

Becautiful! I love the movement in this.
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Roxylee said 3061 days ago (May 8th, 2009)
Ah, Betsy...
What a rich voice she has! :-)
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mowguy3 said 3061 days ago (May 8th, 2009)
Oh my !
Another one. Your playing is a step beyond. And Betsy is a beautiful girl. Thank you.
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egobandit said 3061 days ago (May 8th, 2009)
pluckin and pickin
strummin and hummin and blowin me away, such a great song!
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saymme said 3059 days ago (May 10th, 2009)
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....so wonderful hearing your guitar again : ) Very very beautiful.....love the special ending its like a spice
Much enjoyed , as always Your playing, that guitar has a very fine sound.... ! thx

Daugrin said 3058 days ago (May 11th, 2009)
Record with B
Terrific feel. Nice building arrangement, nice to hear familar changes in new spaces. Makes me want to play.
One thought for you, the" G string" is out of tune to my ear, this detracts from my enjoyment of the piece. It sounds a few cents out, when you "pull", while fretting, it is sometimes in tune. Tell me this was on purpose, and I will accept you as a genius, in all seriousness, some players set this up routinely...

Daugrin
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thetiler said 3058 days ago (May 11th, 2009)
Thanks egobandit, saymme
Daugrin, mow, roxy and mark for posting !
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Sigmund said 3057 days ago (May 11th, 2009)
Betsy
has an incredibly warm tone, and you, my friend, are an exceptional guitarist. There is such ease in your playing style - why, you could be bbq'ing a steak while you play - it sounds so effortless! Nice job - thanks for sharing this.
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Doug Somers said 3053 days ago (May 16th, 2009)
Joy of life
Your guitar sings. I could listen to this music forever.

A lovely touch here that is right on the money in performance and recording.

Be well,
Doug



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Dj French Toast said 3053 days ago (May 16th, 2009)
I just automatically
download your music and enjoy it on the Ipod ....its always beautiful and a joy to listen to :) thanx buddy !
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guitapick said 3033 days ago (June 4th, 2009)
I love...
...the twists and turns...great sound, Bill...nice piece...medium guage strings...nicely done, sir
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sschedra said 2945 days ago (September 1st, 2009)
Great sound
Bill, just a pure sound. The song is lovely too. You are a true artist.
Thanks again,
Stephen
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