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Bad Old Song (w/jiguma)


Ed Hannifin

 Genre: Folk-Rock

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Rules, rules, rules. My old band, Wheatstone Bridge, used to have rules, like, “Okay, no one come up with any more guitar jam songs in A minor…” And then we all belonged, for varying lengths of time, to a songwriting group, called The Songoes, and The Songoes required one to come up with a new song every week. I failed at that rule, even though the early meetings were held in my apartment. They also had a rule about, “No songs about writing songs.” The general feeling, I think, is that it was a bit like preaching to the choir, and a bit like a big ‘in-joke’ into the bargain. The one person who broke this rule successfully was a songwriter named Liz Brahm, who wrote a very cool tune called ‘This Is What I Do.”

Nonetheless, a few years ago (2001—was it really that long ago?) I got a solid week when I was able to hang out on my back deck and write songs without interruption, and didn’t I just write a song about songwriting? I remind myself, however, that one of the rules that both my old band and my old songwriting group agreed on was, “What is most particular is most universal”, and thus this song may have something to say about life as well as songwriting. At this point in my life I figure, write about anything and it’s universal. Or not. But write it anyway.

So this is a song about something that I do, which is, I try to write songs and some come easy and some live in one notebook after another, trying to be finished, never given up on because, “C’mon, it’s got that great LINE… Can’t throw THAT away…” This is the ‘particular’ part, because no one else on MacJams does this. Everyone else’s songs spring fully armored from their forehead, and write themselves down on paper into the bargain. I am ashamed to admit that I do tend to worry and fret and work over these things sometimes.

This song was written as a ditty to get things flowing, and, true to its theme, I kind of got to like it and I’ve kept it. Like many bad songs it has a little bit of the obscure/esoteric in there: the Fisher King is a character in Arthurian mythology, a wounded warrior, keeper of the Holy Grail, and to some extent an arbiter of truth who urges the seeker to ask the right question, the “healing question”. He catches the fish that is served at the Grail supper. He is both cause and potential healer of The Wasteland.

All kinds of layers in there. Don’t get me started.

This is the second of the five songs that Neil put drums and bass on. Once again, I’m very happy with the results, and very grateful. Yeah, I guess he can go relax in Germany and Switzerland now. What the heck. But come back, Neil, I’ve got this new one…

Ed Hannifin: vocals, acoustic and electric six and twelve-string guitars
Neil Porter: bass, drums, very small but important gong

I’ll also mention that I really like the tone I got out of the Telecaster on this one….
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Bad Old Song

© 2001 Ed Hannifin

Capo 4

Intro: one time verse/chorus

Maybe the rhythm isn’t right

Maybe the rhyme is wrong

You didn’t work on it enough

Or you worked on it too long

It’s got no place among your others

No matter what it won’t belong

You don’t know what it’s about

But sometimes you drag it out

That bad old song

Maybe the time’s a little off

Maybe the tune’s a little bland

You’d put up with it, I guess

If it was Dylan and The Band

It just needs a little something

Like a cymbal or a gong

So you give it extra tries

Though you know it isn’t wise

That bad old song

Yes, and everybody’s got one

Some have two or three or four

I even knew a guy one time

Who had a couple more

It’s impossible to fix it

And no one tries to sing a long

There’s no bird around your neck

Ever makes you feel like heck

Like a bad old song

[Break: one time verse/chorus]

Sometimes to be a fisher man

You’ve got to be a Fisher King

You’ve got to know what to throw back

You’ve got to know what not to sing

Like bad pennies or bad children

Like a friend who “won’t be long”

Sometimes you give it one more chance

Hoping it has learned to dance

That bad old song

Sometimes you give it one more chance

Hoping it has learned to dance, That bad old song….
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johnwhitehead said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
Old song
Hey, I like this. A melody that grows on you and very tasty lead playing. Nice natural vocal delivery, too. I can relate to the theme, big time. I have plenty of bad old songs.
Although sometimes we're at our best when were not really trying. Enjoyed this.
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Ed Hannifin said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
Thank you, John...
I'm pleased that you like the melody. I really have been trying to be a little more tasteful in the lead department, so I'm happy that it earns a 'tasty'... I think you're right... not trying too hard is a good thing...

I appreciate you giving this a listen and commenting... Thanks again...

daibhre said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
I'll be sharing this!
The guys in my band will really love this. When I write songs about writing songs they generally comment about the lack of audience for such things, but MJ is exactly the place for these tidbits. I especially liked the bridge. Lots of rough takes I listen to a couple years later get me wondering "what was I thinkin'?" - or more accurately "what was I hearing in my head?"
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Ed Hannifin said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
I'll be thrilled...
...if you share this with your bandmates... I have certainly heard about the lack of audience thing, but you're right... if not at MacJams, then where?

Glad you like the bridge....

There are times when I think I go through every day of my life going, "What was I thinking?!?"...

Thanks for giving a listen...

paul f. page said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
You bad!
I, too, can relate...but not to the music (which is so very comfortable)...rather, to the lyrics. My "bad" songs are the ones where I force the lyrics. The best ones just write themselves. So, you have really nailed a common dilemma faced by every song writer and done it in plain, simple words that are sung clearly and in your smooth voice, Ed. I REALLY like the change in phrasing at the end of each verse--the last 2 lines. It's a hiccup that really gives the music a cool rhythmic lift. ... I'd love to record a bass as tightly as you did here. It thumps along defining the harmony without ever getting in the way. Overall, this was such a pleasant listen. Glad you "dug it up."
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Ed Hannifin said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
This is a cool sort of comment, Paul...
...because it makes me go back and listen to the darned song again to hear and understand what you're saying...

I'm getting good comments on my vocals on these last two songs. Maybe I'm starting to find a way to approach my adult voice on the singing end and on the recording end... Hope so... I'm still trying to get a 'sound' there that doesn't get me wincing...

All credit, and I mean ALL credit, for the bass playing and the bass sound goes to Neil. He sends bass tracks that are pretty near drop-in-and-go. I apply tiny bits of compression or move it up or down a dB or two as the mix changes, but it ends up pretty much as he played it and recorded it.

It's good to have your thoughts on these tunes, Paul...

Ed Hannifin said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
Thank you, Maurice...
I appreciate hearing your thoughts on these last couple of tunes.

I think "over-thinking" or "over-working" things is probably something of a universal... That's my hope... There's probably someone out there who'll relate to this from the standpoint of golfing or something...

I'm pleased to hear that you like the melody and lyrics because that, to me, is what makes a song. Pleased, too, that the vocal worked for you...

Thanks again for listening and commenting...

Moviz said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
The 'Bad Old Song'
Ain't all that bad after all, LOL and as Paul said we've all had that problem at some time. Certainly a good subject to write about.I really like the melody and lyrics great backing sounds too, to a very warm easy sounding vocal, regards M
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Ed Hannifin said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
I don't know why...
...by once again, my reply appears above... Don't know what's up with that....
Feter said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
Bad Old Song
This is very much Neil young sound ..a true
classic Ed ..perfect job ...the song writing
the guitar here is a real taste of the time ...
the rich acoustic guitars here just what this
song need ...Neil did a very charactarisitc
job ...a real stamp on this song he made ...
indeed lovely to break rules ..even pimp a
song ...this is a true gem ...I ll pimp it
myself ...thnx alot for sharin such gem !!!!
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Ed Hannifin said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
Now, it's a funny thing, Feter...
...I think I've written quite a few songs that sound like Neil Young, for good or ill, but this one sounds a lot more Byrds or Eagles-y to me... However, I'm never going to argue against a comparison that does me credit...

And hey, I did NOT sign the Non-Pimping Clause of the MacJams Agreement... I tend to think of these things as 'invitations'...

Thanks for always tuning in and listening, and letting me know how things strike you. I totally appreciate it...

Feter said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
I did
I took it on me tonight and start to share flyers and pimps
for your song ...cos its REALLY worth it ...kudos !
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composerclark said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
Charmed, I'm sure
It is neither bad nor all that old, but it does have a very attractive, charming quality that makes this one a keeper! In fact, I don't think I've ever heard a song about this before, and yet it is something I suspect we all can relate to. Very clever lyrics; I really enjoyed it!

As for rules about how you should or should not write songs, or what they should be about, I suspect that most creative people have a pretty strong contrarian streak, so that when I hear "you should not do …", my instant reaction is, "oh yeah? Sez WHO, buddy???" after which I often do the thing I'm not supposed to. Sometimes, it doesn't work out, and I say, "oh yeah, I get that rule now!" but lots of times good things come of it, such as this song.
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Ed Hannifin said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
Clark, entirely apart from...
,,,my ongoing desire to have your brain(s), I really enjoy and look forward to your comments and viewpoint...

I'm right there with ya on the 'contrarian streak'. I actually LIKE rules, and like that they're there, and to some extent use them for navigation...as whoever it was said in 'Pirates Of The Caribbean', "We think of them more as...guidelines..."

Ed Hannifin said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
Pleased you like it, Anthony...
I hadn't thought of it in terms of being a 'comfort song', but now that you mention it, I guess it fits...

I'm happy that you liked the production... Thanks for listening...

abfkingsport said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
Very clean Ed. I like the relaxing feel to this. A great comfort song. Excellent lyrics. You guys did a great production. Props to Neil and Ed.
The King
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MarkHolbrook said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
I'm lovin this... The only thing I notice and it could be on my end is like a cutting out on the more intense bass notes... My MacPro sometimes jumps like this so it could be on my end... I'll give it a few listens and see if it is me...

Beautiful, simple and pure... Excellent in every way!
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Ed Hannifin said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
I can't tell you...
...how happy I am that I had SOMETHING (or 'things') in the pipeline after all the attention you gave me a few weeks ago... Dang... Despite my trepidation that anything after that would be a let-down....

I've given a few more listens to the version on the MacJams player, and I'm not hearing what you're describing in the bass, so... try downloading it and see if it plays cleaner and clearer....

I continue to be happy and proud that you like my stuff, Mark...

MarkHolbrook said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
I'm thinking its my monitor speakers... or my old ears... Anyway the tune is fantastic... and you deserve all the attention you can get... Excellent.
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Vic Holman said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
for starters
i love the lead guitar work, so you have been practicing on it.

catchy song, nothing bad here. I pick up a bit of latter Byrds style in the too. Not just because you have all those twelve strings flying. But, I think it's because of the song structure itself. Country Rock in its finest form.

Neil's work is, as always, solid.

2 songs in one week, nice!
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Ed Hannifin said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
Yes, well...
...when all my rotten ways of wasting time fall apart on me and fail to satisfy, I guess I can practice... a little...

But I'm glad that you of all people are saying something about the guitar here...

Although mostly I think we'll have to call it 'practice' when I just loop the darn tune and play over it about a thousand times... Usually somewhere up in the nine hundreds somewhere there's that moment when I say, "Wait...wait... I just played something GOOD..."

I have a great fondness for the Byrds, and for Gene Clark, and I also really like both 'Younger Than Yesterday' and 'Notorious Byrd Brothers'... I like that part of their guitar sound best, I think...

Neil is definitely the definition of 'solid', both as person and as musician...

Now I have to scramble to finish up another one....

Thanks for listening, Vic...


ktb said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
the process
to someone who sees the gift of lyrical/melodic creation a complete mystery, I'd say you have a wonderful ease with the "process". This has a great flow. I love the lyrics :-) Neil adds his gift with such deftness.
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Ed Hannifin said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
Which is funny...
...'cause I sit over here watching you create these soundbeds in and around and under things that are already there, or improvising on other people's stuff, and I am equally mystified....

Glad you liked it....

pablatone said 2999 days ago (August 2nd, 2009)
nice mellow tune Ed
I never knew that about the fisher king, very cool.
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Ed Hannifin said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Thanks, Paul....
...the stor[ies] of the Fisher King are pretty interesting. Check him out on Wikipedia or something, as a starter.. There's way more than in my little blurb above...

Glad you enjoyed the tune....

jiguma said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Thanks Ed
For keeping up my presence at MJ even though I don't have anything new ready to post (I have written 2 new ones while I've been away though).

This one came up well, and I'm enjoying the Tele parts (and becoming a little nostagic about my own Tele sitting in the dark at home).

I'll have to wait until I get home to have a proper listen, but this sounds good to me.

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Ed Hannifin said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
It's all about...
...keeping you in the public eye, Neil...

I really enjoyed playing the Telecaster as much as I got to here. It's a really neat guitar. I loved some of the tones that came out of it.. Combining the Tele tone with Line 6's emulation of a Vox seemed to really work well, for one...

Do make sure to listen to all of these when you're not making do with little speakers....

Continued thanks for all of your contributions...

Macaudion said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Don't stop!
You're on a fine, fine roll, Ed! I enjoyed reading your liner as much as I enjoyed another tune from you! Really enjoyed the story being told in both! And they are both, so you! (the you that I know, at least...) What you do tends to always sound like it's come from such an authentic and honest, EJH place... And even when (or especially when) it comes to highlighting your "faulty" or, more accurately, human-like traits. And the pun of the day is..., it's what makes you, you! Also, it's such a comfort and joy to run across the makings of you. I know the "sunshine police" may wanna shoot me right now, but this is just the way you tend to affect me, and others, I'm sure! The lyrics sounds not unlike a typical conversation with you having the stick to talk... Really makes a person feel comfortable just being and doing what and however one might choose to do it. It's one of the things that causes me to have your music on "repeat" on a lessor self-esteemed day. And, of course you'd have the other "always makes me feel good" person, collaborating with you on this - you and Neil are the perfect fit on this one and I enjoy hearing the both of you equally so! BTW, the tune is not off, but definitely "on" and it doesn't need an extra anything... I shall play that "bad old song" again and again! Maybe I'll come across what's wrong with it, but I seriously doubt it... It's Perfect, sir! Perfect! Perfect! Perfect! Great art! Thanks!

There..., I think that I just out paragraphed you! : ) LOL Good to hear you're on a roll, Sir! Keep 'em coming! Cydniko
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Ed Hannifin said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
I'm going to become an energy vampire...
...I'll just use songs as a sort of bait, and then when you come along I just plug in to your optimistic life energy and use it for mankind...or world domination... or something... Okay, I use it selfishly and immediately to boost up my ego and my own petty desires and insecurities, all right?

But I digress...

I like that you like my stuff, Dion... and I like that you don't let the sunshine police squelch your response to things... You've got good ears and you don't hear and don't say the same old thing, ever...

You're right, for instance, that a lot of my lyrics are 'conversational' in tone. At this point it's a habit, but before it was a habit it was a thing that I wanted, and that I studied and practiced and worked on, so I really like it that you get it. I also try to write songs that don't leave you feeling queasy, like you just listened to someone lying for three verses and a bridge... I like to have them touch down in something true somewhere along the line...

I really enjoy working with Neil. He may yet have a part to play in 'Uno'.... Heh, heh. And he laughed his evil laugh...

Anyway, thanks for listening and being encouraging--again--and thanks for popping in early this time. Much appreciated....

magnatone said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Bad Old Song
what a GREAT Bad Old Song Ed! I wish I could write bad old songs like this. the gong is a really stellar addition that made me have to listen again. seriously - i'm chuckling at these great lyrics, loving the telecaster, and thoroughly enjoying your song notes. go write another one!
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Ed Hannifin said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Aaaaaand...Karen hears the gong!
I really had to laugh when that drum track came back and Neil had dropped that in there...

I'm glad you like the song, Karen...

I've got a little vacation time coming up... I might get to write something then... It's about time, I think...

Then I'll get it recorded by, maybe, 2012....

Pete_NB said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
This song just wraps you up and feels right. The vocal rhythm and melody goes just where I want it to. Well written and performed, and that tele does indeed sound great.

I think it would be a blast to sit around the campfire and jam while you break out all those great songs of yours!
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Ed Hannifin said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
You know, Pete....
...my comment to Feter above notwithstanding, I've just been listening to Neil Young a lot the past month, since my son fell in love with him and my stepsons gave me the Archive box set... Listening to his albums, you sometimes get this sense of 'rightness', like things are falling into just the spot that's right for them...

I had a small epiphany some years ago, camping my way from the Pacific Northwest back to New England, and I realized how good and how powerful it would be to have even one song so popular in a certain way that you would hear it sung around campfires... Anyway, I enjoy campfire jams, although in my experience one tends to forget, afterwards, how hard it was to remember lyrics while trying to twitch away mosquitoes...

I bet you and I would get along on guitar, though....

Ed Hannifin said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
...for listening, cj,...

I appreciate that you range far afield and found this one. Thanks for listening and commenting...

Ed Hannifin said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Warm and fuzzy and COMFY...
Between you and Pete, I detect a direction here...

It was my hope that other songwriters would relate to it, and not leave me out here in the cold...

Thanks for listening and commenting, Adam...

cjdaley said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
basement tape
it's a classic both in form and content (who cannot, among us, relate to it?).

It's not my usual stuff, but I greatly appreciated it.
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Ed Hannifin said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Anyone else...
...have this problem of replies posting themselves elsewhere than where you post them?
MannequinRaces said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Warm and Fuzzy
This is warm and fuzzy. What a great collaboration! A song that all songwriters can relate to, I'm sure. I thoroughly enjoyed this one!
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Ed Hannifin said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Please note that, for some reason...
...my reply went up instead of down...
Henke said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Thanks Ed!
For commenting on my song so that I was inspired to go listening to some of yours! (Strange that I have been able to miss your songs for these three years I have been in. Probably because of the genre thing. Too bad.)

This was really terrific! Again, maybe not the kind of song I would jump on for pure genre or title but because of flawless production and pure charm! I really like your voice on this one and the melody comes so natural. Sweet playing as well from both of you. Nice that you actually let the voice come through like this. Kudos. Really, kudos!

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Ed Hannifin said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Hi Henrik!
I appreciate your return courtesy. It's something I often mean to do and yet don't always get to... Thanks for taking the time... AND jumping genre...

I'm happy that you like my voice on this... I must be doing something right just lately.... I don't have the best voice, or the easiest voice to record, but folks seem to like these last two attempts....

Thanks for giving a listen. I hope we cross paths again soon...

ziti said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
very nice.....the telecaster sounds unreal!!!!

can i borrow it for 6 months or so?

can i ? huh??

great stuff ed

i bet the next one has acoustic slide in it...

deepest bows on the pickin'
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Ed Hannifin said 2998 days ago (August 3rd, 2009)
Hmmm.... maybe if we TRADE...heh heh...
It would indeed be great if the next one has acoustic slide in it, he hinted broadly.... That would be very good... But it would have to sort of ARRIVE, and soonish, for that to happen.... I'll wait by the front door...

Thanks for the ongoing encouragement in the guitar, vocal and songwriting departments...

davisamerica said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
you guys
are just so darn good together
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Ed Hannifin said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
Thanks again, Jack...
We ARE good together, aren't we... and that's why Neil has to move to Massachusetts and find a house halfway between me and Fran... Have our own little artists' colony thing....

sheilad said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
if this is
a bad old song then what makes a good one? Really enjoyed this !
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Ed Hannifin said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Sheila....
I'm trying not take that sign behind you personally....

sheilad said 2996 days ago (August 5th, 2009)
don't worry about
the sign... It is all about me!!! fits me perfectly!
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airportseven said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
Great old song Ed
would sound perfect in a set by Willie Nelson - and that man knows a thing or two about songwriting. Your voice and delivery are really good - and that Tele tone is sweet. Fine work from Neil hear too - the bass and production are perfect.
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Ed Hannifin said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
Hi, airport....
...are you secretly Bud? Or not so secretly?

I get pretty confused with multiple identities around here. I get pretty confused anyway, truth to tell..

IF you can get Willie Nelson to trot this one out, I would be eternally grateful. Pleased you like the vocal and the Telecaster. I'm really getting to like that guitar.

Neil is a real journeyman in the art of bass and drums, especially in this sort of music...

Thanks for listening...

damiengh said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
nice one
Nice one Ed. Really helps us all vent those normal feelings of creative frustration, like a nice soothing balm.

Heck, even after we've given birth to a song, those feelings haunt us sometimes of how we could have changed something here or there.
Oh well, C'est la vie.

You probably would fit in with this Ann Arbor folky song writing group:
They put on some pretty nice concerts after all their group songwriting diagnostics and idea hurling. Nice friendly bunch like yourself.
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Ed Hannifin said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
Creative frustration?!?!?!?
What are you implying, Damien? I have certainly NEVER felt creative frustration, ever. That is because nothing has ever gone wrong in my creative life....

And CHANGE things? You think we're EVER supposed to CHANGE things? Or even THINK about it?

I often wish I had a songwriting group in this part of the world... Perhaps a project for the coming New England winter...

Anyway, I'm glad that you caught up with this one...

Cori Ander said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
Ditties to get things flowing...
... often give a lot. For me usually more than creations that I put a lot of work and thought into. Too much trying don't give longlasting results, for me. I wonder if you relate to that with some recognition...

This song is nice and very natural. I wouldn't be surprised if it will reside for a long time on my iPod.

By the way your way of singing here reminds me of Ringo Starr's. And I have a very warm and special "relation" to Mr Starr's productions, so take that the most positive way.

And to you Neil: Nice work again! You make justice to Ed's wonderful creations.
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Ed Hannifin said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
It seems to me, Johannes...
...that you have done the same thing just turning on the H2 and improvising...

It IS a funny thing, and a thing that people discuss at great length, because of COURSE we do have to work at things, from time to time, but it is also true that it's good to focus and work and then LET GO....

I sincerely hope that this has a long life in your iPod. I am perfectly okay with emulating Mr. Starkey. I like his singing voice. Most of the time, in most of my range, I think I have a thinner tone that's closer to George, which is why it takes to doubling..

And I'm getting an email rubber stamp made up that says, 'Yes, Neil is awesome, isn't he?' 'Cause he is...

Scott Carmichael said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
Ha Ha
A closet full of them... polishing turds... that's what I call it trying to fix what is hopelessly broken...

not this one I asure you

I love the lyric... you made me smile all through

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Ed Hannifin said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
...but I couldn't quite build that quatrain with, you know, 'birds'...'words'....'turds'.... I ALMOST had it...

See 'hopelessly broken', ibid.

If I can earn my stripes with you as lyricist, I'll be all right, Scott....

Ibstrat said 2997 days ago (August 4th, 2009)
are right about the Tele tone- very shimmering and beautiful.The solo and fills are perfect,shades of Robbie Robertson.I envy your singing voice- I heard a disappointing recording of myself singing last week (I knew I was bad but not THAT bad.)Your voice has a very appealing quality, and it is really in tune.I mentioned before that your songwriting is at a very high level,you HAVE to figure out a way to get some of this stuff to Alison Krauss!It's a good thing you didn't ask me to play on this, I probably would have ruined it with a mixoloadiann b12 scale or something.I continue to marvel at Neil's great bass playing.
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Ed Hannifin said 2994 days ago (August 7th, 2009)
It's all in the cable, Mark...
I bought a George L guitar cable that was reviewed in Guitar Player magazine... The review gave it a 5 out of 5 in "shimmer"...

I'm naturally proud if I've done a solo that'll earn the Stunkel Seal of Approval... With that kind of accolade, could Alison Krauss be far away? Seriously, if I ever wrote anything that Alison Krauss and that amazing band of hers chose to do, that would about set me for life... I listen to that live album of theirs and am knocked out every time...

Upon reflection, I have to agree that I did a brilliant job on this, but yet... it lacks a certain mixophrygidorianexpialidocious modal quality that I think it would have picked up from a player of your caliber...

The reason that Neil's playing sounds so good is that he plays bass chords with numbers... This is harder to do on bass, because there are fewer numbers on a bass....

Glad you like the singing....

egobandit said 2996 days ago (August 5th, 2009)
Im glad you broke em, Great song!
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Ed Hannifin said 2994 days ago (August 7th, 2009)
Thank you, egobandit....
Much appreciated....

LunaTrick said 2996 days ago (August 5th, 2009)
Nicely done
Confess it's not my realm... but it's really well put together and recorded very cleanly!
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Ed Hannifin said 2994 days ago (August 7th, 2009)
Thank you for listening, Daniel...
I appreciate the thought, the listen and the courtesy....

Rebsie said 2993 days ago (August 8th, 2009)
Gong fishing
Great to see you posting here again Ed, after all these months of generously supporting everybody else! I find songwriting pretty tortuous most of the time so I can relate to the theme here. Love the Arthurian symbolism. And I'm glad you're enjoying your Telecaster!

Wow, Neil - that is some gong! Kudos.
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Ed Hannifin said 2993 days ago (August 8th, 2009)
I'm just gong take a minute and digest that one...

I have these hopes that I'll get a few more up before I'm done. The little complication right now is that my hard drive is filling up. I was s'posed to put in a larger one last week, and then ended up having to drop money into my car... Looks like it'll probably get done this week... but then I'm on vacation and I'm going to be in a tent for a week off at Otter River....

Songwriting, as you know, is SUPPOSED to be torturous, Rebs,... AND unsatisfying.... The fact that some of us enjoy it at times betrays a great defect of character...

Glad you liked the bits of Arthur in there. Next we'll go for The Golden Bough and/or The Waite Tarot.... Won't catch up with you and Daniel, though...

Doesn't our Neil have a feel for the gong, though?

Thanks for listening and commenting, Rebsie...

ste said 2993 days ago (August 8th, 2009)
great lyrics and i also loved that subtle lead guitar. great job
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Ed Hannifin said 2993 days ago (August 8th, 2009)
Thank you, ste...
I'm pleased on both counts. Thanks very much for listening and commenting. Much appreciated.

SISTERS said 2993 days ago (August 8th, 2009)
very fine mix
this delightful music puts me an Instant Good Mood.
darn good story you're singing, ed - we've all been there with you.
loved the low note on WISE/DANCE - oooWEEE!
the fact of the matter is, this tune keeps getting better the longer i listen. big vote from me on yer Bad Old Song, ed. keep singing - we want more! anne
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Ed Hannifin said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
Thank you, Anne...
Putting you in a good mood is a good thing in my world...

And you, of course, are putting ME in a good mood liking something in how I'm singing...

I'm trying to find my way to complete that next one...

kassia said 2993 days ago (August 8th, 2009)
very tight production
great song writing and awesome performances. i love your voice Ed. very smooth and easy to connect with. another great tune!
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Ed Hannifin said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
Well, kassia,
I just listened to Foolsaint a few times this morning, and THAT is a tight production.... Headphone heaven...

I'm glad you like this, though... I'm really getting a boost from the nice comments on this one and 'If It Rains' about my singing.... I must be doing something better these days...

Thanks for listening...

guitapick said 2993 days ago (August 8th, 2009)
Nothing quite like...
..a bad ol' song...this is a good one, Ed. So happy to hear your sound again...love the lead line
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Ed Hannifin said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
I'm pleased...
...you got to hear this one, Bob.... It's very cool that you like the lead....

mikkinylund said 2993 days ago (August 8th, 2009)
Great concept!
And equally such a great performance, very good melody, great instrumental performance, thoughtful lyrics, awesome performance. I really like the lyrics, they grow on me... Thank you, and peace! MIkki
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Ed Hannifin said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
Thank you, Mikki...
It's good to hear that folks are connecting with the lyrics and are liking the melody....

Thank you for dropping in and listening...

VicDiesel said 2993 days ago (August 8th, 2009)
A good warmup
Now that you have that out of your system, here's to writing the Great American Ballad!

This sounds pretty nice, btw.
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Ed Hannifin said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
Very little, Vic....
...seems to ever get 'out of my system'.... Things more or less cycle around, for me...

Great American Ballad... are we talking, like, romantic ballad or like, 'Ballad of Springfield Mountain' ballad?

Glad it's sounding good to you...

sonnyjim said 2993 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
Your songs always make me want to lay down some Toad The Wet Sprocket-esque vocals; don't know why that is. I have a version of your 'Lonely Bull' song (the real name escapes me at the moment) with multiple vox on it that I use to warm up........ maybe I'll send it to you one of these days.
It's good to hear YOUR voice on a track, though: shades of Stephen Merritt here. Great words! "Bird around your neck... feel like heck" is pretty brilliant!
Production is ace. I'm glad I stopped by.

All the best,

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Ed Hannifin said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
Hey, I had a 'Toad' CD once...
Wonder what happened to it...

The idea of 'Progulation' with multiple vox for warm up is really, really intriguing... that song and two others were 'designed', if that's the word, to have multiple versions and incarnations... I'd love to hear it... Another MacJammer is working on a more acoustic version....

I don't know who Stephen Merritt is, so I'll head off to Wikipedia and clue myself in. Yeah, I forgot to credit Samuel Taylor Coleridge for the whole bird metaphor... When you borrow from so many places...

Thanks for comment, sj...
sloparts said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
Been there done that Ed
Great song about a bad song, and trying to figure out how to fix it. God man you've written my life here.

Great collab, and yes the Tele sounds soooo good. Neil is the consummate Bass player and drummer on this kind of song and shines at putting the rhythm tracks together.

Thanks Ed, I needed to be reminded about the trials of fixing the "Bad Old Song"

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Ed Hannifin said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
We must be...
...'Eds of a kind' or 'Eds of a feather', or something...

I think this really marks the arrival of that Telecaster. False humility aside, I just love the Telecaster tone on this song, however accidentally arrived at...

And Neil... I'm torn about Neil... He plays all this cool stuff on my tunes and that's only going to make him more in demand... Totally counter to my plan for world domination...

Thanks for listening, Ed...

awigze said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
this gives me hope
That guys like you who have it nailed struggle... but such is art, eh? this reminds me when I was in a poetry class and had to write something for it and feeling rather unisnpired, it .... inspired me. It was well received in the class... kind of the way that I like this 'bad 'ol song.'
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Ed Hannifin said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
Guys like me...
...who...have...it...nailed.... Ah, ha, ha, ha... ha, ha, ha,...

But yeah, that was ANOTHER rule: "Start from wherever you are." Lennon and McCartney were pretty good at that. "I'm SOOOOO tired... I haven't slept a wink..."

Thank you for the listen and the kind comments, Andy... I really do appreciate it...


Komrade K said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
Got a few myself...
...which stalk my waking hours, perhaps I'll get them down one day.

Liked the lyrics and the production is satin smooth.

Nice one.


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Ed Hannifin said 2992 days ago (August 9th, 2009)
Hi Martyn!
Speaking of stalking my waking hours, one of the things I'm working on now is a mix on the thing you played on... I need to learn the secrets of a great fiddle sound, for one thing....

As to this one, I'm very happy that you liked the lyrics and production, AND that you took the time to listen and comment. Much appreciated.

Dadai.2 said 2990 days ago (August 11th, 2009)
bad old song...

that's good... easy flowing along and feel-good. Kind of an Eagles (earlier) Glenn Frey type song, which I especially like.

Now go write another song...

Ed Hannifin said 2990 days ago (August 11th, 2009)
I was hoping...
...that you'd find your way to this one, Jack...

I was hoping for a kind of Glenn Frey-ish Eagles vibe on this, so that's right on target...

More songs are coming....

selters said 2987 days ago (August 14th, 2009)
Another great song, downloaded of course. I particularly love the hook at the verses, Catchy! I can relate to the lyrics. They are spot on. I have often experienced how old bad songs, suddenly start to dance, out of nowhere. A simple and effective arrangement was very suitable on this storytelling song:)
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Ed Hannifin said 2987 days ago (August 14th, 2009)
Hello again, Magnus...
I'm pleased that this one worked for you... It really is a funny thing how songs come together, or don't...

Thanks for another listen!

ledebutant said 2987 days ago (August 14th, 2009)
I can think...
...of a few macjammers with massive song catalogs *cough* Jim Bouchard, Neil *cough* who seem to have songs that spring like Athena from their foreheads, but baby, we're not lucky like that, and I know every artist, whether songwriter or not could relate to your lyrics. Really, you could boil the whole thing down to "keep trying," and that's something EVERYONE can relate to, so there, Songoes! Take that! Stop opressing ED!

This is such a comforting song, I think most of all because of your voice. Listening to it, I just think how much I wish you were my uncle, which may sound bizarre, but I never claimed to be normal.

More please. I know there are two more Neil songs. Cough 'em up, Hannifin. :)
Ed Hannifin said 2987 days ago (August 14th, 2009)
"Keep trying"....
...that's one of my pieces of Zen wisdom for the week....

Or, "Keep trying, and don't expect something magic to rescue you...."

About being your uncle...um... er...

Two more songs to go from the current Neil-ish crop... I have to add some guitar to them and mix them... Probably early September, unfortunately, since I'll spend next week in a tent...

I'm really happy that you found your way to these... I do sit around moping when you take your time...
Moping. That's right.

Roxylee said 2982 days ago (August 19th, 2009)
we can relate
Heehee, Ed, I must have 20 songs I've started and never finished. Some I might drag out and try to fix; others will never see the light of day. I love these lyrics and the melody. Superbly played and mixed, as usual. :-)
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blaky smith said 2976 days ago (August 25th, 2009)
Great Collab
Another one from you, with Neil, whom I discover today, what a rich day!
Nice melody, perfectly sung with a solid work on guitars, I like it, bravo you two!
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thetiler said 2835 days ago (January 13th, 2010)
Enjoyed how
the gorgeous lead come out of the shoot. And the singing starts out terrificly and keeps going on with a lot of melody.
Your lyrics are pretty funny ! This has outstanding acoustical qualities in this. One of the very best I've think I've heard from you and others in combination. Love how the lyrics rhyme. And it rhymes very nice indeed.

Way to Go Ed and Company ! Very Impressive !
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lilmom said 2781 days ago (March 8th, 2010)
Story of my life.....
The lyrics remind me of my musical experiences! This is terrific. And you have such a friendly face to go along with your warm vocals!!!! Great work from both you and Neil.
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