Kullu Haze (w/Tokai)

billykirsch

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Steve sent me a file of about 1 min a couple of weeks ago, with the name "kullu test", with a chain of heavy riffs to start a collab. I liked it, but for some reason Steve wasn't very sure. I asked for the same file without drums: I wanted to put some kind of Bonzo drums and see what could happen. I cut and pasted different parts of this guitar+bass file to create a longer song, and then added some drums with ezdrummer. In that moment we knew we had something like a song.

I asked Steve about the name of the file, if there was a story behind it. Kullu is a city in India where he traveled recently. While he was there he had some problems with the owner of the hotel he was in. His story reminded me of a trip I made to Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador many years ago. I mixed the stories and wrote the lyrics.

Enjoy!

Image by Steve West (http://www.stevewestphotography.co.uk/)

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Lyrics

Kullu Haze
2010 - S. West, B. Kirsch

I can remember the moon on the Kullu highs
I can remember my fate in the moonless nights
The things forgotten are those I miss the most
I don't remember your smell

I can remember the man with the golden tooth
I can remember the smile hiding the lies
He was selling some stuff I didn't buy
And I was buying some time

Kullu Haze

The last day I was there he called the priests
That crucified a man some time ago
Then I got off away without my shoes
The innocent is barefoot

Kullu Haze

Song Stats

Hits: 2453
Comments: 112
Fans: 52
Plays: 318
Downloads: 93

Uploaded: May 24, 2010 - 01:22:36 AM
Last Updated: Nov 03, 2012 - 11:42:08 AM Last Played: Jun 17, 2013 - 12:15:38 PM

Song License

Creative Commons License:
Attribution-NoDerivs-NonCommercial

Song Actions

Hardware:

Mac Mini, pod6, M-Audio FastTrack

Software:

Logic (Steve), GB (Billy), EZDrummer

Comments

alackbass	alackbass said 1122 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Heavy Killer progressive metal! Nothing wrong! Everything so right! Check out my latest song called Close to the Bone by Jerry Quinn

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Andrew Thanks man. Glad you liked it. It was fun. Check out my latest song called Everything

michaeljayklein	michaeljayklein said 1122 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	I hate to be an echo, but... "Killer progressive metal! Nothing wrong! Everything so right!" (like the man said!) Superbly crafted and powerful--this is really outstanding guys--the best. Michael Check out my latest song called Old Man Mose is Dead

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Michael Thanks man. Glad you liked it. It was fun. ;-) Seriously, thanks for stopping by Michael! Check out my latest song called Everything

fasteddie	fasteddie said 1122 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	great heaviness! Excellent collab! Nice guitar riffage! Cool singing! Great stuff all the way around. Check out my latest song called A Friend to the End

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Hey Michael Thanks a lot man. I like it when YOU say it's heavy! :-) The riffs Steve put together are great. After living with them for 2 weeks I can say they are tricky too. The pull-offs in the descending side of the main riff and a couple of weird shifted bars would be an interesting thing to play live. Check out my latest song called Everything

kingbee	kingbee said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Great riffage Really cool sound to this and the drums are great. Double tracked vocals are getting that cool Ozzy cross fade sound. I would have maybe bough the backwards style at 1.28 just up a bit in the mix..but apart from that cool cool track cheers Check out my latest song called shadow stories

billykirsch

billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)

Kingbee
Yeah, the drums made a big difference. EZDrummer (just the basic package) is awesome. Is the first time I try a tone like this in my voice and a double track helped a lot in making it smoother. I'm quite happy with the results.
That guitar seemed to be too low or too loud depending on who knows what. I was changing the level all the time. I guess I posted the song in the middle of a low cycle. For the CD... :-)
Thanks for stopping by man.

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davisamerica	davisamerica said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	absolutely killer! Check out my latest song called 12

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Jack! Thanks man! Check out my latest song called Everything

speedonl	speedonl said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Oewa Big Guitars Metal!!! I like it a lot!!!! Good melody lines, Guys!! Check out my latest song called Still be Friends acoustic

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Speed Thanks Egbert! Great you like it man. Tokai's guitars are killer. Check out my latest song called Everything

crissew	crissew said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Cool song Wasn't expecting something this heavy, caught me off guard. Very cool. I think the vocals are a little low in the mix on this but probably just a matter of taste. Other than that one nit pick, very well done. Killer vocals and guitar playing. Check out my latest song called The Devil's Argument :P

billykirsch

billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)

Charles
Hey man! yeah, it's a little bit different to the things I was posting lately, but actually this is my zone ;-)
I love Steve's music and we went ahead with a collab after he came from India. My first "proper" collab too. We had a lot of fun.
Agree with the subdued vocals. It's in the dna of the genre though: the riff is as important as the lyrics.

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Skean	Skean said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Yep This get me rollin, sweet as hell... Great work guys… Cheers Check out my latest song called In My Deepest Thoughts

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Skean Sweet indeed! :-) We had a lot of fun and it's cool you also got some of that. Thanks for stopping by! Check out my latest song called Everything

Daugrin	Daugrin said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Drivin Hard Aggressive playing and I like the drums alot. Haze indeed, a smokin romp... Daug Check out my latest song called Other Mutha Brother's Reggae

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Haze You got the "subliminal" message Daug :-) The haze is purple. Check out my latest song called Everything

magnatone	magnatone said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Kullu Haze OOH - well isn't this cool! these are really terrific lyrics billy, and what a great collab. you two make a dynamite team! (and 2 of my faves!) Check out my latest song called Wave Goodbye

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Lyrics The original story is really funny. I mixed and adorned it with parts of similar experiences I had and imagination. We were having trouble with the chorus, but then Steve nailed it with the right words. And it sounds a lot better than the options we had before. Thanks Karen for stopping by! Check out my latest song called Everything

rok41	rok41 said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Killer... Really like this! Great collab! Check out my latest song called The Game

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Chris Thanks man. Warning: you could get dizzy if you play it loud, as it should be played. Collabs are great, specially when you have a mate like Steve generating ideas. Check out my latest song called Everything

ic42

ic42 said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)

haze air, dis is good.
adrenal injections of angst, with nowhere to go except through the fingers, across the strings, and into the hazy air. Great guitar work, excellent mix and singing, and lyrics that leave a lingering taste of burnt regret in the air. The question will remain unanswered... why does the man in Steve's photograph have a titanium replica of a Zardazian starship around his neck?
ttfn,
Drakonis

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billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Integrated Circuit 42 Thanks Eduard. Angst against fake smiling people that could put the good boy in big trouble, but our hero prevailed using his super power: intelligence. Zardaz is closer than expected perhaps? Check out my latest song called Everything

RAVENS	RAVENS said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Hells Yeah Rarrrrrr, kick a$$ man! Killer track & the vocals are awesome. Glad I chimed in today! RAVEN ;-) Check out my latest song called Tattooed Scars (w/ Sigmund, Scofugate, Rok41)

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Raven The vocals track is an experiment (trying to get a "smoky" voice from a clear throat) so it's cool you mention that. Thanks for stopping by! (btw: love your music) Check out my latest song called Everything

tokai

tokai said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)

Well now.
if only they knew eh? Thanks man for taking a song that was going to go in the bin and making it into a track. The new lyrics are very suitable. Drums are really something and the round off at the end is excellent. Cheers for all your help again, i am looking forward to hearing the next we do.

Drak.. he was just beamed down, that guy is another story, a plastic sadhus?

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billykirsch

billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)

Here's the man
It came out pretty good in the end, right? The raw material was there. I was marely a dj gluing your parts man (lol). btw, in the description I should have said the initial file was about 1 ton, instead of about 1 min.

I made a couple of late minute changes as you can see. It won't be that fun for you otherwise ;-). I was never too sure about the second line, but I like this one much more. It's another contradiction, but true: to remember the future.

I learned a couple of interesting things in the process. I'm glad you sent me those tracks man.

Check out my latest song called Everything

Reggie_Pole	Reggie_Pole said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Drive it home Ah, yes. Adrenaline flow. Good, good. Great to hear Steve driving a tune with his guitar --- great riff. Love the title and lyrics. Billy delivers the right sound for this, with well placed backing vocals. It's only a detail, but I must say that the stop at 1:50 is just too cool. Hell of a photograph too. Great work, gents. Check out my latest song called UnerSpizm

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Reggie I like the way you remarked the detail: I was expecting a critic :-) I like that break too. Thanks for stopping by! Check out my latest song called Everything

michaelkoppenheffer	michaelkoppenheffer said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	That drumming doesn't sound "EZ" I'm really impressed with the cohesiveness you achieved on this tune: tight and dense without being inaccessible. Great work! Check out my latest song called Till the Tap Runs Dry (album version)

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Michael Glad you liked it man. Thanks for the visit! Check out my latest song called Everything

Calchas	Calchas said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	This tune really kicked my ass! Great collab you two. Poppin' drums and smokin' guitar riffage. Really enjoyed the vocals too. They sound wonderful and lay nicely in the mix. Be well friends!

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Michael You are such a supporter man! Cool to know the mix worked for you too. I wasn't really sure. I was experimenting with a different location for the monitors (mid of the room this time). The previous one (near a corner against the wall) was really boomy. Check out my latest song called Everything

PaulaMunk	PaulaMunk said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Well, perhaps a little magic was involved? I love that Billy was able to hear what it needed. The photograph is oddly terrifying. So much color and it seems, determination, on the man's face. It think the whole thing is about danger when you can't know someone's intent. Wonderful music and lyrics and vocal. Excellent collaboration. :) Check out my latest song called Alone at Christmas

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Char Your interpretation is right on: you never know what somebody else is really thinking, or what he/she will do. In the case of the man in the photo, perhaps he's a pacifist. In any case I'd be careful with him. On the other hand, smily people could be more dangerous. Check out my latest song called Everything

TERRAPLANE	TERRAPLANE said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Woo Billy Awesome head banging riffen tune,,,,enjoy all elements,,top notch collab guys,,,well done!!! thanks for the DL ,keep on keepin on!!T Check out my latest song called COME ON IN MY KITCHEN/ w Pockbluesman

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Terry Thanks! Yeah, head banging! Pogo inducer! Disco killer! We'll try to keep keeping on :-) Check out my latest song called Everything

867-5309	867-5309 said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	equal open-air beefy yet emotional well-controlled vocals - those drums just kill yes - with a true sassy snappy snare. nice guitar high harmonics - I want to hear it again - equal to the best out there - this steady guitar double-picked low mid vamp augments the voice even more Check out my latest song called Berceuse in Ab

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Scott Thanks man. That's a great comment: it's hard to describe sounds (at least for me). So cool you like it. Thanks for the visit! Check out my latest song called Everything

dantimmermans	dantimmermans said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	this is one beefy tune! I just love the energy, and the drums really do sound amazing. the guitar and bass are mixed into a perfect sludge and the double-tracked vocals have a kinda Mastadon/Kyuss feel. this is just great. Check out my latest song called 'Oh Yeah!' by the band Oh Yeah!

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Dan Thanks a lot. I'll check those bands. I think I heard something from Mastodon; I don't know the other band. Love your stuff man. Thanks for the visit! Check out my latest song called Everything

Moviz	Moviz said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	love the energy going on here.... great playing and vocals and the lyrics are worked nicely from your experiences, good stuff, cheers M Check out my latest song called He's The Jazzman

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Mo So glad you like it. Always waiting for your comment, one of the best songwriters around. Thanks for coming and leaving a note. Check out my latest song called Everything

HermanoDani	HermanoDani said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Bue-ni-si-mo!!!!! Que mostro!!!! Que bueno escucharte hacer un poco de rock mostro!!!! Super abrazo!

billykirsch

billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)

Hermano Dani querido! :-)
Esta esta buenasa no? :-) La viola esta espectacular y la bata tambien quedo buena. La letra salio rapidisimo (raro) y despues cantar como siempre costo un poco hasta que le agarre la vuelta, y la verdad q me gusta como suena la voz asi. Es un buen primer intento. Bastante contento como suena esta.
Mandales un abrazo a los delincuentes de la escuela! Ya sabes: Luis, Lucho, los Prieto, Nery (bue, el no es delincuente), y si me olvido de alguien yo se que me vas a hacer quedar bien igual :-)
Un abrazo! (te dije ya que es recopado que mandes comentarios? ;-)

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jiguma	jiguma said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Fantastic guits, bass and drums! Great post Billy and Steve. I'd like to hear the vocals a few dB bigger in the mix, but that's just a very minor nit. Really powerful stuff! Terrific production. Neil Check out my latest song called INTO THE BLUE

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1121 days ago (May 24th, 2010)
	Neil Great you liked the bass and drums of this. I know it's your knowledge area :-) Thanks for the visit! Check out my latest song called Everything

lavalamp	lavalamp said 1121 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Way, way, way awesome Truly digging the sound and attitude on this track. The drums are a treat. Tremendously sung. Excellent LL Check out my latest song called A Funky Little Thing

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	David So cool you liked it man. You are one of my faves. Thanks for the feedback on the vocals: trying to get a different tone. Thanks! Check out my latest song called Everything

HermanoDani	HermanoDani said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Saludo Mañana en la escuela dejaré tus saludos pibe!!! Si, me dijiste que te copan los comentarios y a mi me parece bárbaro hacerlos. Te mando un gran abrazo!!

awigze	awigze said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Billy & Steve The innocent are barefoot... inspired line. Lyrics are full and the entire song is tight. Nice collaboration! Wow! tokai guitars... where can I get some? only one place that I know.... Check out my latest song called Afraid of the Rain w/ Davisamerica

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Andy For a change, the lyrics came out quite fast. I liked that line too, it's a nice conclusion for the story. Steve's guitars are a bulldozer. And the bass... you have to listen to the bass track solo. Wow. I need a comb after that. Thanks a lot Andy! Check out my latest song called Everything

sheilad	sheilad said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	wowza that got me going this morning. Straight to download so thanks guys! Check out my latest song called Nana Lives

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Sheila The guitars here are reciprocating like your dangerous saw. I love downloads! Check out my latest song called Everything

Feter	Feter said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Kullu Haze Glad you two works together and found your music can be one project ...you too hell of a rockers and I m enjoying this one ...Rock on ..thnx a lot for sharin !!!! Check out my latest song called Roll with it

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Feter Thanks man. It's too much fun to collaborate, specially with somebody like tokai. Cool you like this head banger, leg kicker! Be well! Check out my latest song called Everything

tonestones	tonestones said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Very cool track This has a really nice live feel to it. Reminds me of my one and only trip to India. Check out my latest song called In Some Other World

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Tone Cool the music brought some memories to you Steve. But you already know: the things forgotten are the ones you miss the most ;-) Check out my latest song called Everything

dave_b	dave_b said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Kullu Haze (w/Tokai) Great shredding, and the drums match perfectly. Vocs are good, lyric tells a interesting "Indiana Jones" type of story. Check out my latest song called Llarions Blues

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Hey Dave Thanks for the listen! The drums here are made the same way we were talking about. Well, just the basic pattern, not the fills: I used a keyboard to play the fills and then fixed the timing in the midi grid. I like the Indiana Jones reference man :-)) Check out my latest song called Everything

Sigmund	Sigmund said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Kullu Haze AAh yes, good old hard rock - sometimes you gotta just pound it out, and this songs pounds it out alright. Everything sounds great - vocals (imo) could stand a little more presence in the mix, but sound great anyway. Cool rock tune guys - thanks! Sig Check out my latest song called Under Your Bed - feat. strangedream, rok41 & Steve Ritter

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1119 days ago (May 26th, 2010)
	Sig Straightforward hard rock is good for your soul. That's what Steve discovered in Kullu with Dr. Gupta. I found the vox level is very sensitive to the acoustics of the player/headphones/speakers. In my monitors and car it sounds fine, in my other computer it sounds lower. I don't know. Thanks for stopping by! Check out my latest song called Everything

bud	bud said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	Monster mash seriously heavy riffing and great drums - bass - vox - production. Killer tune - huge sound. Check out my latest song called fig field

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1119 days ago (May 26th, 2010)
	Bud! Great to hear from you. Thanks for the visit man. Check out my latest song called Everything

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	heavy track guys man this rolls like a locomotive. great riffs and voc's. the chorus is excellent. a seamless hard rocker for sure, i absolutely dig this song. Check out my latest song called They Must

billykirsch

billykirsch said 1119 days ago (May 26th, 2010)

Vic
Great you like it, because I love your stuff man.
Locomotives! I lived in front of a train station when I was a child and remember the heavy steam locomotives flattening coins we left on the rails. I'm not that old: the train station was in Argentina (not the most advanced machinery there).
So cool you found the reason that connects me with heavy stuff. Saved money from the therapist.

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ste	ste said 1120 days ago (May 25th, 2010)
	fun rocker very tight riffage. those drums sound great. quality track. Check out my latest song called friday

billykirsch

billykirsch said 1119 days ago (May 26th, 2010)

Ste
Riff and drums: no need for more. A good drum package makes a big difference. My hat off to the drummers too. Just recently I discovered how hard is to play (I should just say program) drums right and how important they are in a band. I was flashed by guitarists, but drum and bass man: that's where the heart is.
Thanks for leaving a note man. Glad you liked it.

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lengold	lengold said 1119 days ago (May 26th, 2010)
	Fantastic collaboration. Great, great rocker - really enjoyed. Downloaded. Thanks. Cheers Len Check out my latest song called B E A U T I F U L

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1119 days ago (May 26th, 2010)
	Len Thanks a lot man. Just remember me when you are famous. Check out my latest song called Everything

Jarvoid	Jarvoid said 1119 days ago (May 26th, 2010)
	Wicked.Quite wicked. These seem like some quite man sized problems given the thrashing of the gits and the pounding drums.Monster rock track....that EZ Drummer sounds very real,good job on that because aint drums a bitch to get sounding right? Well I think so.Good job guys,Cheers. Jarvoid Check out my latest song called laundromat blues

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1118 days ago (May 27th, 2010)
	Jarv Yeah, it seems our guitarist was a little bit pissed off by the situation and losing his shoes. These riffs are his discharge. Drums are hard, true. It's another way of thinking. And ezdrummer helps a lot. Thanks for the visit Chris! Check out my latest song called Everything

Gaylen75	Gaylen75 said 1119 days ago (May 26th, 2010)
	Whoa Man! I just listen for the fifth time Man and Man this is great Man. I love the mysterious lyrics and the sound bed is sweet Man. Of course my Man Steve is the Man. Great one Dude. Check out my latest song called Unravelled (Speakeasy Sway)

tokai	tokai said 1119 days ago (May 26th, 2010)
	G.man. The other main man Billy was the man who took the Kullu Manali story and spun his magic. Thanks everybody for your support and Billy you are a very decent man, man. Amen. Check out my latest song called electric magnetic/Sir Bass

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1119 days ago (May 26th, 2010)
	Dude! That's too cool Gaylen. Thanks man. Check out my latest song called Everything

ted23	ted23 said 1118 days ago (May 27th, 2010)
	Man love this stuff. I'm a fan of mixed back vocals as i love to hear the balls of those riffs. Your excellent voice is still audible enough to pick out the words but set back enough to give it a cool vibe. Love the changes too. Fave! Check out my latest song called Living Dead Love Song in Z minor (HALLOWEEN 2012)

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1118 days ago (May 27th, 2010)
	Ted Thanks a lot man! It's great you like the way the vox is mixed (I got some complains because of that ;-); I also like when the voice is another instrument in the band. And the riffs have balls for sure :-). Killer stuff from my bandmate for us to enjoy and exercise our neck. Check out my latest song called Everything

Bob6stringer

Bob6stringer said 1118 days ago (May 27th, 2010)

Them Crooked MacJammers
Guys, this hunk of metal is HOT. Fits in a playlist with Queens of the Stone Age or Them Crooked Vultures. Deadly but so well blended and melodic that it's not metal, it's just music, period. The Kullu theme seems to fit with the time-honored tradition of taking us to places ugly gringos like me think of as exotic (and Kashmir is taken).

And damn: EZ Drummer strikes again! If I find some money laying around, I'll be tempted. (Watched the YouTube marketing vid, seems tops in user friendliness, too.)

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billykirsch

billykirsch said 1117 days ago (May 28th, 2010)

Bob
Man, you really know how to make my day! :-)

Kashmir, what a song. But you already know it's inspired on a trip Plant made to Morocco right. In this case is the real thing (well, not really, I don't know Kullu neither ;-). It seems you won't look like a gringo in Kullu if you are barefoot and a have a wild look.

I got the basic ezdrummer package, nothing fancy, but it works. It's easy to use too. Tip (if you ever buy it): play with the kit configuration and mixer to get the sound you like. And practice with drum tablatures.

Thanks Bob!

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jdholliday

jdholliday said 1118 days ago (May 27th, 2010)

I thought i commented
on this Billy? I've listened to it a few times,... wierd.
Anyway, this is really good Not my style of music to listen to but I might reconsider after hearing this, it's very good and it's hard and in your face intense but totally listenable and likable even for a guy who likes classic rock, in fact my only suggestion would be to turn up the vocals and maybe add some effects to them, very well done colab! The ez drummer drums sound great!

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billykirsch

billykirsch said 1117 days ago (May 28th, 2010)

JD
So cool you listened this one even out of your comfort zone. I really appreciate it. It's even better you are reconsidering your genre boundaries because of this! That *is* a cool comment man.

And, yeah, ezdrummer is a very nice addition to any music toolkit. Drums are so important and so hard/expensive to record/play that without a software like that, all our home recorded music would sound lame. Same with the amp emulators and DAW software: no way we could do this kind of music without them.

Thanks for stopping by JD.

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ktb	ktb said 1117 days ago (May 28th, 2010)
	Kullu Haze fist pumping righteous. That drum track locks so supremely well with this. I'd say it'd make a great title track for the new West/Kirsch CD :-) Check out my latest song called Blackwater (by Tokai)

billykirsch

billykirsch said 1117 days ago (May 28th, 2010)

Hey John
I had a lot of fun doing this one. I guess we'll do another. I don't know if we'll get to 10 for a CD. Tokai is a music creation machine, but I'm too slow. Perhaps an EP? ;-)
The good news is that we could make CD's of anybody here at macjams :-)

What I would love to do with this one is to play it live with Steve and Scott (scofugate). Man, that would be AWESOME!!! I don't know who would pay for the tickets though... ;-)

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scaustrita	scaustrita said 1115 days ago (May 30th, 2010)
	Those Guitars sound so good, and full. Strong vocals! Very good arrangement . . . :: Powerful Performance :: Check out my latest song called Thumbing My Way Back to You

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1115 days ago (May 30th, 2010)
	Steve Thanks for the listen. Love the style of your comments! Full is a great word to describe the guitars. I didn't have to touch anything there: Tokai sent me the files and I just had to lay them down in GB, no effects, a tad of eq just to make some room for the voice and that's all. Thanks again. Be well in your 'vacation' destination! ;-) Check out my latest song called Everything

DarkPlanet	DarkPlanet said 1115 days ago (May 30th, 2010)
	Fantastic! Wow, this drips and oozes blistering tones like a runaway train. Great vox, lyrics and the drums fill in nicely, Cheers guys! Check out my latest song called Summer Glaze (With cchaplin)

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1115 days ago (May 30th, 2010)
	Tom Thanks man for stopping by. I like the comparison with a runaway train! :-) Great you liked it! Check out my latest song called Everything

ShadowofNine	ShadowofNine said 1115 days ago (May 30th, 2010)
	ohh cool Me likes a lot, wish the vocal was just a tad higher in the mix, but I dig the whole piece... Check out my latest song called Theres a Prog in my Soup

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1115 days ago (May 30th, 2010)
	Dave Is it possible that 0.5dB higher is too high? That happened to me mixing the vocals in this one. Also in some places (car for example) it sounds just right, in some others (work computer) a little bit low. I guess it's a little bit on the edge, so may be you're right. Check out my latest song called Everything

egobandit	egobandit said 1115 days ago (May 30th, 2010)
	Transitions Man the changes in this it flows back and forth like a dragon in a cave! Great tone on the guitar! Tops Check out my latest song called piece it together

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1115 days ago (May 30th, 2010)
	Hey Tim Thanks man. You should have listened to the first track Steve sent me: imagine all these changes in less than a minute. My head was spinning. Check out my latest song called Everything

guygrooves	guygrooves said 1115 days ago (May 30th, 2010)
	Very very Kullu Diggin it bro... nice job both of you. Peace Check out my latest song called Summer Bossa with sloparts and Loob

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1115 days ago (May 30th, 2010)
	Guy Man, just read your post in the forums... I have yet to check the song, but man, I agree in every bit of what you say there my friend. So cool to have you around. I was missing you :-) Billy Check out my latest song called Everything

racerat	racerat said 1115 days ago (May 30th, 2010)
	a giant Billy, The drums are the star here. Absolutely fantastic. I think the vocals need to be bumped up significantly though, they're great, but sadly they're buried. Driving guitars, tight arrangement, what's not to like. DL'd and fav'd. Check out my latest song called My Broken Sky

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billykirsch said 1114 days ago (May 31st, 2010)

Phil
The drums were so much fun to work on, trying to follow the cuts on the guitar and thinking -what my friend Edu would do here- (Edu is Eduardo Altamonte, a friend I used to play with down in Argentina).
It really made a difference on the song. Hats off to drummers. The foundation of rock is there. Somebody said here in MJ there's no good rock band with a bad drummer. I'm still looking for a counter example to that assertion.
Thanks for the vox note. I'll count the positive and negative mentions on that topic and... well, perhaps I'll do the same next time :-) No, seriously, I think I have a problem with my monitors: too much mids ==> all in the mids gets buried. Even the inverted guitar seems to be buried according to another comment.
Hey man, nice to see you again!

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PrototypeEightyOne	PrototypeEightyOne said 1110 days ago (June 4th, 2010)
	yo this was done proper...nice job, killer riffs and killer percs. dope. Check out my latest song called Mechanical Memories

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1109 days ago (June 5th, 2010)
	Thanks Proto Thanks for the visit. Glad you liked it man. Check out my latest song called Everything

claypotts	claypotts said 1102 days ago (June 13th, 2010)
	Right from the get go This is one hell of a massive creation. Got the Ultrasones on and kicking it! Well Well Done! Check out my latest song called Come On Back To Me Baby

richard13	richard13 said 1101 days ago (June 13th, 2010)
	Heavy duty: whew! Didn't Kullu Haze win the Cannabis Cup last year? Check out my latest song called Caledonia

thoddi	thoddi said 1070 days ago (July 14th, 2010)
	intensive Super cool guitar playing. Great drums. Kullu seems like a busy place according to the soundtrack.... Great images. Niiiiiice singing! Check out my latest song called And here comes Christmas Eve

Symphony101	Symphony101 said 1057 days ago (July 27th, 2010)
	Powerful Great song, I like the vocals a lot. Check out my latest song called The Wish Granter

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kevmikwa said 1052 days ago (August 1st, 2010)

Melodic metal
Consider my comment to be "what they said". Everytime I try to make a note on someone else's song, I read the ones that have come before to see if my note is still original. That's the thing about being late to the party ... there's very little new to say. I wanted to say that the vocals were strong enough to deserve a bit higher billing, but Charles beat me to that; I wanted to point out a turn that I liked, but Reggie_Pole beat me to that; I wanted to be effusive about the way that the riffs are tight and the story cool, but pretty much everyone beat me to that.

I use EZDrummer's bigger brother, and I'm so with you - the Toontrack folks really know how to sim drums. So many little elements that they got just right in making EZ - and they've kept it very accessible. I will say that there were a couple of spots where I wish the note-to-note velocity variance on a fast fill were just slightly more exaggerated. Anybody who knows me knows that that's my pet peeve (and I probably lean too heavily on it most of the time). But that's picking a nit on a great song. Cheers!

Check out my latest song called Carol of the Bells (Xmas Challenge w/ jdholliday)

ramonaji	ramonaji said 1052 days ago (August 1st, 2010)
	serious stuff very cool!!!!! Check out my latest song called Nobody Knows You (Italian Dance Remix by Andy Fox!)

parallel_eighty_eight	parallel_eighty_eight said 1044 days ago (August 9th, 2010)
	POWERFUL EMPHATIC AND EXCITING WANT MORE EVEN THANK YOU Check out my latest song called Homeless Children

echoroom	echoroom said 1030 days ago (August 24th, 2010)
	Killer he's a talented boy, that Tokai! And boy, what a team you make. Killer playing, huge production.... I'd love to hear this live, and blow my eardrums as well as my mind! Check out my latest song called Fire of love (remixed version)

RochaMalhada	RochaMalhada said 1026 days ago (August 27th, 2010)
	got me on the intro I'm hooked one FINE piece of work here. . - Harold Check out my latest song called Ascent of a Tree (w Mike_D & FEEL)

RochaMalhada	RochaMalhada said 1026 days ago (August 27th, 2010)
	PS Did you ever listen to O Terço ? :) Check out my latest song called Ascent of a Tree (w Mike_D & FEEL)

billykirsch	billykirsch said 1026 days ago (August 27th, 2010)
	O Terco I don't know them, but I'm gonna look for them now. Check out my latest song called Everything

sschedra	sschedra said 1026 days ago (August 27th, 2010)
	Billy You guys did a great job here. The drum work is terrific. Vocals need to be pushed a bit. Don't be shy, they are great. Check out my latest song called E Lucevan Le Stelle

hackneybloke	hackneybloke said 943 days ago (November 19th, 2010)
	kullu whoah.....i'm in bed...it's early....and i turned this on with my headphones. now i'm awake...forever. rocktastic collab. Check out my latest song called Every People Know w/Rok41, KTB, Scofugate & Sisters

Doug Somers	Doug Somers said 497 days ago (February 7th, 2012)
	Kablam Absolute Killer! Top notch and full of drive. Doug Check out my latest song called Dad's March 5 2013

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