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This is another one of my sound experiments. I was disappointed that musically it wasn't very cool. But the trick that this song plays on your ears is amazing. Lemme explain.
You know those word puzzles where you have one word that you have to change into a second word, one letter at a time, creating only real words along the way? I thought I'd do a song like that. Going from one song into a completely different song one sixteenth note at a time. The two songs are "Pork Soda," by The Headhunters, and "Firestarter (Empirion mix)" by Prodigy.
The amazing thing about this song is...well, you should listen to the song first, then read this. (Go ahead give it a listen, its short)....
As the song goes along you hear the same high note sustained on the organ for the first two beats of the measure. But by the middle of the piece, you are only hearing short, disjointed snippets of that note. But it SOUNDS like a sustained note. Thats your brain fooling you. That note isn't there most of the time you think it is. Same kinda thing with the Bongos...you'd swear you can still hear them when in fact they are almost nonexistant. Give it another listen.
Wadda ya think? PLEASE COMMENT--VOTING IS FUTILE. VOTING WITHOUT COMMENTING MEANS NOTHING TO ME. THANKS!
Lyrics:
I am a trouble maker,
Hardware:
The usual.
Software:
Audacity
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uh hmmm well.... &mdash 01/04/05 - 05:13:01 PM
...is probably the response of most who hear this, but i
think that its a very interesting experiment for sure.
however, im less interested in the aural trick (which for
me works for the bongos, but not the organ) and more in
the idea. i would like to hear more of these experiments,
but on a smaller, more concise scale, and using original
music. you might incorporate some kind of time
signature phasing (4 over 3, 5 over 4, etc) or introduce
panning into your scheme as well, to increase the depth of
your experience.
oh yea,
i had no idea how to vote so i didnt
----
darryl [ Reply to This ]
uh hmmm well.... &mdash 01/04/05 - 10:34:16 PM
Thanks for all the ideas. I didn't mess with panning or anything, though I had
it in mind. I may still, but don;t hold your breath. I think, like you say, I
should use original material and try similar ideas. This is something I just
cooked up the night before I tried it. And it worked in some ways.
Never know until you try it!
And thanks for the comment! And No Vote?--No problem. [ Reply to This ]
hmmm.. &mdash 01/04/05 - 08:04:45 PM
kinda missed the tricks the first time, i was dancing too
hard. works if you cheat & skip to the end after hearing it.
funny how mr. brain keeps filling things in. nice groooove,
maaaaan
experimenting is good. [ Reply to This ]
paying up &mdash 01/04/05 - 08:07:06 PM
This is a great experiment. It's listenability is low, but as
art is has a lot going on. It has a nice lenght too. I didnt
get bored with it. i wish it had a better intro. is that a
fadde up and a fade out? hat's the easy way. Give as an
intro.
Brendan [ Reply to This ]
paying up &mdash 01/04/05 - 10:30:09 PM
Yeah the fades are an easy way out, but this is not really a song per se. Just
an experiment... I mean, something else would have taken time!
And yeah, like I said in the intro, I wasn't blown away by the sound. I was
hopin for something cool like Stun Nutz does, but this didn't do it. But the
thing--the thing with the organ--stunning. (IMHO)
Oh and thanks for Paying Forward. I think I'll go comment on another
person's song! [ Reply to This ]
paying up &mdash 01/04/05 - 10:38:48 PM
Wow, dude! Thanks for the props! Now I gotta be really nice to you!
No, seriously... I really admire your versatility and I am a fan of a lot your
stuff... in fact, I liked a lot of your tunes before you liked mine... so
there!! [ Reply to This ]
Well &mdash 01/04/05 - 08:23:46 PM
I think it's pretty cool even without the long a.ss
explanation which made me say huh? Really enjoyed the
jazzy beginning the only gripe I have is there was not even
firestarter Remix in it I just got into Prodigy last week and
Firestarter was the first song I heard by them.
6 7 7 7 [ Reply to This ]
Well &mdash 01/04/05 - 10:26:11 PM
The trick was finding a second piece with the exact same BPM as the
Headhunters track. Luckily I found a list of songs at each BPM. This track
was at 141, and it was this specific mix of Firestarter that had the same
tempo. You're right--not a lot of the original song in there. I love the
Prodigy and I tried the original, but its slower. Damnit.
Thanks for the comments! [ Reply to This ]
I understand your explanation, &mdash 01/04/05 - 10:11:40 PM
But I don’t really hear it. (And I did listen to it three
times). The sounds are so different between the two
songs that I just hear the first one being interrupted. But
then, I was the kid that never got any of the optical
illusions either. I guess I have a literal brain (curse of the
engineerng trade). I wonder how it would sound with two
similar pieces?
(not voting)
JG
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Oh god, not another one... &mdash 01/04/05 - 10:32:33 PM
...of pooey sound experiments! Just kidding...this
was actually a pretty cool one, too bad you didn't
think so. This could be developed into a rockin tune
with a slamming beat! Oh - I did hear the trick you
spoke of, also. My mind was filling in stuff that
wasn't there after a while. I did a tune once that
reminded me of this. It was the intros of two Pat
Benetar songs played forward and backward,
overlapped, then warped up into each other and
reversed on the other side. I wonder if I should post
it. Hmmm.... [ Reply to This ]
Oh god, not another one... &mdash 01/05/05 - 06:01:55 PM
Please do...this work was actually inspired by your piece Yellow River Slam.
Now that piece is cool. I mean to turn this into a cool pice of music I would
obviously have to put more work into (which I am not able to do-back to
school ya know).
Anyways, I kept this one short. The next experiment may not be so concise.
BwooooHaaahhaaaahaaaa. [ Reply to This ]
By the Way &mdash 01/04/05 - 10:36:39 PM
The cat in the picture is a feral cat from town that my son
calls "Colours." This cat meowed more than any cat I've
ever known. And I hope she still does...I sold her to the
Jingle Cats production team for a hefty sum. Just wasn't
sure about the packaging--I mean, how long will a cat last
in a cardboard box? (JK) [ Reply to This ]
Trouble maker indeed! &mdash 01/05/05 - 03:44:11 PM
My brain is still unwinding from the complex sound warpage and cartwheels it has experienced trying to keep up with the sustained, yet subtle, synchronized sound modalities in this Cagean forest of tonal muscial (a)-mazement and puzzlement.
Other than that, it is nice to dance to :)
Jack [ Reply to This ]
Trouble maker indeed! &mdash 01/05/05 - 06:03:16 PM
Hmmm...you're the second person to mention the dance-ability of the piece.
Maybe if I chop it up... [ Reply to This ]
As interesting as ever &mdash 01/06/05 - 09:47:28 PM
Pooey,
I always look forward to hearing your latest offering. I
probably wouldn't normally listen to something in this
genre (I have to be very selective since I use dial-up
internet, and it takes me 20 minutes to listen to each
song) but if it's got your name on it, my curiosity gets the
better of me.
Obviously, alot of work (some serious fiddling) went into
this. You get an extremely professional sound. Well
done. [ Reply to This ]
As interesting as ever &mdash 01/07/05 - 04:38:48 PM
Dial-up? Surely there is high-speed in Australia (isn't that where you're at?).
Anyways, I am flattered you let me tie up your lines for part of the day. This
piece actually took no more than 1 1/2 hours from start to finish. I may
revisit this at some point--use portions of it for a bigger project.
Thanks for the comments. I dig your tunes as well. Somehow missed your
latest release...got any more on the way?
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As interesting as ever &mdash 01/07/05 - 09:05:03 PM
Yep, good 'ol dial-up. I am in Australia and there is cable here, just none for
me.
Nothing in the works from me at the moment. I've discovered iMovie...
What did you think of my last song? [ Reply to This ]
dial-up? &mdash 01/21/05 - 10:18:39 PM
dial-up? &mdash 01/22/05 - 09:05:25 AM
What are you saying!? _nderscore has some awesome stuff. Its just that
some of my short tunes are dial-up friendly. Except "Spare from your hearts."
Nolan, don't bother with that one. [ Reply to This ]
Mmmm &mdash 01/17/05 - 10:48:23 AM
I wish I could understand your description, but I'm not a
native English speaker and it's hard for me to understand
the whole thing. I understand you are trying to do some
sound experiments, and I listened to it (as you say...)
I thought I'd like to keep listening the first part without
the noisy sounds...
Man, you are funny.
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oh, cool! &mdash 01/19/05 - 04:30:17 AM
Pooey Pooey Pooey &mdash 01/22/05 - 10:38:38 PM
Like you I appreciate the concept of sound.. I am trying to
acheive total sonic perfection from my own creative
center. However... this seems rather desperate... even for
you.
i'm just kidding.. i thought it was cool and that maybe you
should have gone further with it. .... (whispers .."like
maybe to mexico, or...antarctica")
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Pooey Pooey Pooey &mdash 01/23/05 - 01:38:29 PM
Teehee...funny.
I think there should be a new category for this and my "Spare from your
Hearts" song called "Musical Assignments." Listening to these can feel like
something that is due for class. The trick of course is to take something
from these experiments and make something out of them. I don't intend on
doing this any time soon, so I'll just leave 'em in cold storage.
Thanks for your comment BL. You're always welcome back at MJ! [ Reply to This ]
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think that its a very interesting experiment for sure.
however, im less interested in the aural trick (which for
me works for the bongos, but not the organ) and more in
the idea. i would like to hear more of these experiments,
but on a smaller, more concise scale, and using original
music. you might incorporate some kind of time
signature phasing (4 over 3, 5 over 4, etc) or introduce
panning into your scheme as well, to increase the depth of
your experience.
oh yea,
i had no idea how to vote so i didnt
----
darryl
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