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I promised I was never going to post another version of this song. Sorry, I lied. I have always felt that this was my best composition, i am not a good composer. But this song, I enjoy to play as much as the other well known sad sounding guitar instrumentals that people love to hear. Our live show always has either Europa by Santana, Sleepwalk by Santo and Johnny or Ended as Lovers by sir jeff...those songs are awesome to play live, and I enjoy to play this one just as much. People seem to lock into the feeling of loss the song attempts to convey.

I have been experimenting with a lot of the bands recorded output, basically trying to figure out how to make Fran Bishops drums sound like Fran Bishop's drums. His live tone is so exquisite, that i have come to realize that it shouldn't be messed with, just CAPTURED. I dont think I have it yet, but I wanted to get new presets for our next batch of sessions...so I was using this song as a learning tool....I had no intention of re-doing the guitars cuz, they were ok before...but then some serious loss came into my life.

My beautiful nephew Ryan, only 24 years old was killed in a freak accident on his job. The feeling of loss is overpowering.
It should be a universal absolute, that you NEVER go to the funeral of someone whose diaper you changed.

So I found myself re- interpreting the whole darn song...all the guitars, (except the acoustic) were re-recorded during the days just after Ryan's death. This version, I believe is the best version I have recorded...i really am happy with the fatness of the sound, the beauty of the band's performance (drums bass were recorded live), which I think i brought forward in this mix and master. I can't speak to the lead guitar at all...it is the only take i did, and i have worked on the mix enough so that I can't hear it anymore, if you know what i mean. But during the recording i was transported, and it was an intimate moment with my grief. So this is the solo no o'dubs or fixes.

This version is lovingly dedicated to my niece, Bree, and her mother Donna. Donna was grace personified through the ordeal of the services. My heart aches for her in a way that is impossible to say.

This version will be up on the NIMBIT, and if you enjoy it, you will be able to load it from there.

I am interested in your feelings about the mix...how does it sound thru your gear? There are so many new techniques and trials in this, I am very curious as to how it sounds to you. So thanks in advance for the listen, and let me know what ya think.
The artwork is the wall mural my daughter created as a senior project, and permanent piece of art. The quote is Gibran.

Soar on, Ryan.
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Uploaded: Jun 18, 2010 - 01:27:08 PM
Last Updated: Jun 18, 2010 - 01:27:08 PM Last Played: Sep 04, 2017 - 07:12:56 AM
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PaulaMunk said 2655 days ago (June 18th, 2010)
There you go,
Fran. Sorry to hear about this. It is intimate and brings you to your knees. Very sad, indeed.
The mural is lovely. Thank you.
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alackbass said 2655 days ago (June 18th, 2010)
I'm left speechless,
by both your loss and your music friend.
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apb said 2655 days ago (June 18th, 2010)
Sorry for your loss Fran
..I'm listening on laptop speakers at the mo- and this sometimes actually is pretty good to "hear" some odd things in a mix more easily: I noticed (say) the acoustic "back-strums" (you know from high E string upwards..) came out a touch trebly, jumping out a little too much while the lead was soloing away sweetly. Small EQing nit in an otherwise sweet mix. I can give it a listen later on my other gear too ...
Playing is (of course) top-notch and very expressive...drums sound "natural" and "open", which suits the style.
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ziti said 2655 days ago (June 18th, 2010)
thanks!
I actually tried to add a little sparkle to the acoustic to off set the heavy low end...at least that was my thinking. Maybe i overdid the sparkle button?
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awigze said 2655 days ago (June 18th, 2010)
There are no words
that convey adequately one's understanding and experience of grief. Music seems to come as close as any hug or tear. This song goes further than many I have heard that expresses this. I have no technical input as this is all emotion.
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michaeljayklein said 2655 days ago (June 18th, 2010)
Well done...
...you do very good work!
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jiguma said 2654 days ago (June 18th, 2010)
This will always be
One of my fav blues tracks Fran. So sorry to hear about Ryan!
Neil
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dave_b said 2654 days ago (June 18th, 2010)
Song for Big John'10
Sorry for your loss. Love your lead line and tone, both remind me of Santana some and Dire Straits some. This just drips sadness...
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davisamerica2 said 2654 days ago (June 18th, 2010)
You poured your soul out on this Fran.
I feel a little uneasy liking this so much. Should we benefit from another's pain? This is a magnificent piece of music, (great mix) but I'm deeply saddened by your loss. Keep playing. There is comfort there. Terry
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ziti said 2653 days ago (June 19th, 2010)
please enjoy!
i can understand your feeling guilty i guess, but enjoy it!! This is a recording that I am proud of. It helped me get thru the night.

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jdholliday said 2654 days ago (June 18th, 2010)
amazing expression
of grief and love, man I hear em both, incredible captivating tribute, I am so sorry for your senseless loss, I admire your willingness to put this out there and share with us, God bless you and your loved ones.
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ziti said 2653 days ago (June 19th, 2010)
thank you
so much for the kind words.
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rabittwhole said 2654 days ago (June 19th, 2010)
oh my...
the song wails Fran ... the mix is great. Emotionally the song transfers well. Will visit NIMBIT cos I want a copy. Hearts and prayers..you are in.
Jack
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egobandit said 2654 days ago (June 19th, 2010)
Your Guitar
is singing on this one almost crying out! Sorry for the loss, Its never easy. Great great tone! BTW great mural!
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rok41 said 2654 days ago (June 19th, 2010)
This is without a doubt...
what music is all about. This is the first time I have heard it and it is also without a doubt the best thing I have heard on MJ's. The mix is very spacious and the depth is perfect. You truly emote your feelings on this and your playing is as always killer. I am truly sorry for your family's loss.
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ziti said 2653 days ago (June 19th, 2010)
wow
thanks so much ... i am glad the recording is sounding good to you...i listened to it on a car ride today...sounds nice in the car.

I appreciate the kind words so much.

z
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damiengh said 2653 days ago (June 19th, 2010)
shred-ful things
This was absolutely beautiful.

I'm hearing sounds from the soul and some heavy pain mixed in on this. It just had to come out, much to our benefit.

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magnatone said 2653 days ago (June 19th, 2010)
Big John
fran, this is just remarkable. i am so very sorry for your family's loss, and it's completely evident that this played with a deep deep feeling. you are an incredible musician and a wonderful person. i'm so happy to know you fran.
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PockBluesman said 2653 days ago (June 20th, 2010)
Fitting tribute
Any loss of a young life is tragic however there is nothing better to honour and remember a loved one than through the emotive medium of well played music from the heart. Wonderfully played and certainly a fitting tribute.
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Dadai.2 said 2652 days ago (June 20th, 2010)
Thanks...
Fran, for this one-more-version... Absolutely luscious guitar atmospherics... it just wins me completely... the harmonics. Man, you deliver something as close to gorgeous on the guitar as one gets in my book...

The mix? A keeper. On the headphones this is pure listening enjoyment... not nits. Bank it.

D
ziti said 2652 days ago (June 20th, 2010)
hey bro
coming from you that sounds really sweet...

thank you so much, jack
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Feter said 2652 days ago (June 21st, 2010)
Song for Big John'10
I feel this is yet another master piece of yours
I like the strings like in the back ..good spot
for the balance ..I feel the song ..which is the
best way to describe how the mixing works out ..
very balanced my friend ..thnx a lot for sharin !!!!
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BirdmanWayne94 said 2652 days ago (June 21st, 2010)
Soundin'...
... better every time I hear it. I'm deeply saddened for your loss; may God rest his soul in peace and may you all stay safe and strong.

This is one of those emotionally-moving, tear-jerking tunes. You don't hear much music of such quality these days, but you've got the talent to make it. Thanks for sharing your heart with us in those 7 minutes... that's pretty much sums it up for me.
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hackneybloke said 2648 days ago (June 25th, 2010)
song for big
this sounds great through my cans....lovely space for everything. big rich creation with everything clear and precise. haunting guitar solo. truly great instrumental track.
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thoddi said 2631 days ago (July 12th, 2010)
Sounds good here
I'm sad to hear about the tragic loss.

Your music express the feelings you have and what a great gift you have in how you're able to make your guitar sing.

All the best.

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Ibstrat said 2627 days ago (July 15th, 2010)
I don't
know how I missed this Fran, but the emotion in your playing is really quite unbelievable.Only a really talented musician who has been playing a very long time would be capable of this.This is world class playing- blows away any living blues or rock player I can think of (Except maybe Beck himself)I'm not talking about flash,but the ability to convey emotion through your instrument.So sorry to hear about your terrible loss.
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ziti said 2627 days ago (July 16th, 2010)
thank you
i dont know if i deserve that praise, all I know was this helped me cope with a great loss

that you feel it is wonderful for me to hear....it lightens the load a lot

thanks marc
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michaeljayklein said 2627 days ago (July 15th, 2010)
Very...
VERY nice!
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btransue said 2627 days ago (July 16th, 2010)
What's not to love
Miss ya Z!
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tadashi said 2609 days ago (August 3rd, 2010)
Calling out of soul
The sound of the soul does your guitar.
Wail, grief, love, and pleasure

Kaleidoscope of organic sound
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Moonwolf_Project said 2573 days ago (September 8th, 2010)
Gorgeous.
That's all I'm saying
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CIASM_ZENABI_ said 2573 days ago (September 8th, 2010)
song for big john
sorry to hear of your sad news. what a beautiful sounding piece. the bends are played with such great feel, commitment and passion. a wave a emotion carries the whole piece. really excellent moving stuff. seriously enjoyed this. cheers
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Bob6stringer said 2572 days ago (September 8th, 2010)
Screaming blues for the soul.
Just keep playing, there's no way that can do anything but good. Heal the world with that stuff. A big lot of good, those strings can do for the soul. At least it seems that way, and I'm not going to say otherwise. Lots of support to you, Fran.
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Llarion said 2304 days ago (June 3rd, 2011)
Heart-wrenching song...
The pain of your loss is palpable, and infuses the piece with aching emotion at every turn... Desolation, angst, and grief are omnipresent... Love the harmonic choices, especially the 2nd guitar, the one on the right... Well done!
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VicDiesel said 2304 days ago (June 3rd, 2011)
wow
this is a beautiful piece. wonderful guitar work.

Normally I would refrain from commenting on technical matters in pieces with such extra-musical emotional content, but since you're asking... The mix sounds great. Full yet clear. My only problem is with the bass drum which is rather behind the beat in the beginning of the piece. Hard to fix, with this being recorded live.
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ziti said 2304 days ago (June 3rd, 2011)
yep...impossible to fix
everything is bleeding into everything...i never noticed it, but next time i see the drummer, i will give him a punch!

seriously, our trio does have a tempo issue, and my belief is that it isnt just the drummer who dictates the speed...all the guys in the band are doing it. but it is an issue that we discuss and work on.

thanks for the kind comments!!
z
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