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When The Luster Is Gone (w/Ted23)


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michael2

 Genre: Indie Rock

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I just discovered Ted23 and was blown away by his tunes; sent him a PM saying we should do something together and then found an open collaboration he had posted. Wrote the lyrics and melody in an afternoon, and came up with the 2nd verse today.

I played it for Bryn and he said it reminded him of the Peel sessions, and I just went in that direction. This is pretty reminiscent of the Smiths and Echo and the Bunnymen, but it seemed right to me. In keeping with the spirit of the Peel sessions, I ran everything super hot for a kind of crunchy sound. Think it sounds okay, but what do I know.

Here's the link to Ted23's open collab: "Collab?"
http://www.macjams.com/song/61186
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Lyrics
i've been torn apart
i've been lucid at times
i've been wrapped in the arms of love
and then hated by some

whispers and kisses and sex without love
still make me feel like i'm something
nothing that's painless can mean anything
nothing that's sacred can tear us apart

when the luster is gone
it gets easier
when the luster is gone
it gets easier
when the luster is gone
it gets easier
when the luster is gone
it gets easier

when you're discontent
you're reckless at times
you don't seem to care anymore
when you're turning to dust

whispers and kisses and sex without love
still make me feel like i'm something
nothing that's painless can mean anything
nothing that's sacred can tear us apart

when the luster is gone
it gets easier
when the luster is gone
it gets easier
when the luster is gone
it gets easier
when the luster is gone
it gets easier

you're drawn away
from the things you need
it's so hard to see
i don't fell that way
you get lonely
lonely
you get lonely
lonely
lonely
lonely

when the luster is gone
it gets easier
when the luster is gone
it gets easier
when the luster is gone
it gets easier
when the luster is gone
it gets easier

la la la la la la
la la la la la la...
Song Stats
Hits: 3015
Comments: 52
Fans: 28
Plays: 132
Downloads: 63

Uploaded: Oct 30, 2010 - 02:24:55 AM
Last Updated: Oct 30, 2010 - 02:24:55 AM Last Played: Nov 03, 2017 - 04:33:31 AM
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Hardware:
my computer and mic, not sure what Ted used
Software:
logic 9
Comments
particledots said 2583 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
I think
you went in exactly the right direction

its interesting (to my ears) how you have brought this into much sharper focus than the 1st version i heard

i love the feel and sound of this

nicely done

b
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
thanks bryn
i played around with it for a while, before deciding to just go with this sound. had some fun experimenting with saturation plugs.
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michaeljayklein said 2583 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
Great job guys!
I'm so happy Ted is getting the recognition his very fine work deserves--and this is just the treatment it should get too. Excellent work!
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
thanks
he writes some great stuff, an this was much fun for me.
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Vic Holman said 2583 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
lust must
well this is pretty damn cool.
so much so, that i was listening on my ipod and decided to log in and say sah-weet!
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
wow
that's actually a huge compliment. thanks Vic.
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ted23 said 2583 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
Great surprise
to wake up and see this up n running.
Wow! The music It was a deliberate attempt to recreate a cool 80s pop-rock tune. If I succeeded or not is open for debate but what isn't is how excellent the vocals are. Michael these are great and fit perfectly with the messy idea in my head. Cool vocals and great lyrics without going over the top.
Ya got me smiling.
Cheers
michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
ha
glad you like. the weirdest thing is that I took your logic file and put new drums and messed around with it quite a bit. then in the end I actually liked how it sounded when I just messed with the mp3 I downloaded, and said screw it. i had a blast playing with this one. we'll have to do another some time. thanks for the opportunity.
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alackbass said 2583 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
When The Luster Is Gone (w/Ted23)
Great track. There's a very cool Cure meets U2 vibe here.
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
thanks
it's funny because I definitely thought about the cure at some point. i REALLY like the cure. you should have a go at this, some great stuff going on in the instrumental.
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lavalamp said 2583 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
Reminds me of something
Really like Ted/Ed too. Now I see in the description the bands you mentioned, that's it!

You have a Bono vibe on the vox actually.

Dig this tune. Great idea M2

LL
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
thanks
glad you liked. Ted23 has some awesome ideas floating around in that brain of his.
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Symphony101 said 2583 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
Michael2 and Ted23
I knew it would be such a great song just by seeing the collaborators. Great job.
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
haha
I basically got lucky on this one. the best part is the guitars. love how Ted23 plays. thanks for the listen and the kind words.
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jdholliday said 2583 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
oh man!
I love this piece by Ed, I tried for days to try to write something to this! and everything I tried sucked! Man you nailed it! wow!
Great great great job! Love your vocals and lyrics and what a hook here, and the "you get lonely" bridge is perfect, you took an 80's piece of music infused the 90's in that bridge and outro and made the meat of the song very current, imho this is remarkable!
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
thanks
you should post what you came up with, sure it's not as bad as you make it out to be. this was pretty easy for me as I spent much of my youth smoking cloves, hanging out in underground clothes with skinny girls wearing black and too much makeup. yes: i was a teenage goth.
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egobandit said 2583 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
Smiths
I used to really be into them , Love your vocals on this Peel sessions all the way What a great collab I like the line nothing thats sacred can tear us apart! This has such a nice live feel to it the striped down bass and drums work so well cool breakdown!
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
thanks tim
the smiths RULE. johnny marr turns everything to gold. thanks for the kind words.
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bud said 2583 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
Great job Michael
excellent vocals and perfect lyrics. Ted's guitar and drum sound is right on the money. Collab made in heaven (17).
Love this line:
nothing that's painless can mean anything
nothing that's sacred can tear us apart

Echoing Bunnies will tear us apart.
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
thanks kevin
i had actually put a more natural sounding drum kit under it and it just sounded dumb. this kit has a total period sound (kind of the cure meets joy division). wish i had time to put a few acoustic gtr stabs in there. thanks for checking it out.
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dave_b said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
When The Luster Is Gone
Glad to see M2 pick up on this great backer, which when I heard it originally thought it provided a lot of opportunity for the melody -since there were only 2 notes at one time, the melody could create chords. Great choices for the melody line. Some great lines in the lyric
"nothing that's painless can mean anything
nothing that's sacred can tear us apart". Great attitude in the vocs. Great collab!


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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
dave
thanks. yeah, i liked the instrumental immediately upon hearing it. Ted23 has a way with the guitar end of the 80's (there was some great guitar bands back then). thanks for the listen.
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MarkHolbrook said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
Cool tune
guys! Ted has been a fav for a while!
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
thanks
just discovered him after he commented on a song I posted. great stuff.
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RAVENS said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
Awesome
I still get confused with his name, I know it's Ed and I still call him Ted. Oy! Wow, this has such a cool 80's vibe. Kind of like the B52's meet U2. Very cool, you guys mesh well together.

RAVEN ;-)
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
thanks
glad you liked. the crazy part is Ted23 and I sent each other messages, and I guess the real name thing never came up. nice guy though either way.
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fasteddie said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
Whoa!
Hang on there a minute.

This rocks pretty darned hard boyz!

Kick butt big time. More pleeeeeez. You guys work well together.
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
fasteddie
thanks a bunch man. glad you enjoyed, I thought we did okay together.
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Moviz said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
Such
a good sound you've got going here. excellent work with the vocals and lyrics etc and the guitar sound ringing around sounds great in back, great stuff, regards M
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
thanks
Ted23 did really great with the guitars huh? thanks for the listen.
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TERRAPLANE said 2582 days ago (October 30th, 2010)
Awesome
Take on this fabulous tune Michael..Thanks for the dL
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
thanks terraplane
glad you checked it out, and thanks for the kind words.
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Relic67 said 2582 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
alright
great guitar and bass interplay on this one.
yes it is a bit johnny marr-ish... not easy to do!
overall cool arrangement and song.
i'm impressed!
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michael2 said 2582 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
thanks
for the listen. the guitars and bass are really good huh? Ted23 really put together a nice soundbed, made coming up with vocals really easy. thanks for the kind words.
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Char said 2582 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
Love your voice.
Love what you and Ed did together.
My only question: something not sacred can not tear apart, but something sacred can tear apart?
I'm thinking of the sex without love line.
Is sex without love not sacred in the way love is?
Ah, well I'm probably reading too much into this.
Okay then, despite all that confusion, the whole thing is a wonderful listen. Both of you are talented. Thank you.
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michael2 said 2581 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
ha
no no. if it's sacred it won't tear you apart; but if if you get into a lot of sex without love, you will end up very confused and lonely.
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Char said 2581 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
Thanks, Michael
I agree. The other way around. I got myself confused. I get it. :)
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Diviner said 2582 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
Lovely bass
Good indie rock that very enjoyable to listen to. Not my normal genre, however I liked this, its very easy listening.
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michael2 said 2581 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
thanks Diviner
glad you liked. i like to genre hop myself, and glad you hopped along with us on this one.
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sloparts said 2581 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
Wow Mike
this is outstanding. I like the hot crunchy mix on it, but the playing is what is so good about it.

You vox and lyrics fit the feel perfectly. Very cool track guy. Both you and Ted did a great job

Ed
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michael2 said 2581 days ago (October 31st, 2010)
thanks
i was trying out some saturation plugs to see if I could approximate a crappy old tape from the 80's. Ted23's playing is awesome on this one, glad you liked.
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ktb said 2580 days ago (November 1st, 2010)
When The Luster Is Gone
two peas in the pod. cool lyrics and it sounds to me as if you
struck a great mix here. Props to Ted on the backing trax.
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tempie said 2579 days ago (November 2nd, 2010)
fantastic
this type of tune is like coming home, i wish i still had a cassette deck in my car. perfect recreation of both the johnny marr and peel sessions sound.
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ste said 2579 days ago (November 2nd, 2010)
oh my
excellent guitar playing. this is really up my street. love it
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ste said 2579 days ago (November 2nd, 2010)
another listen
this is brilliant. what a tune.
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michaelkoppenheffer said 2578 days ago (November 3rd, 2010)
when the luster is gone
Great tune! A little "Cure"-esque as well...makes me feel like I've found an undiscovered 80s UK track in a record store somewhere.
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magnatone said 2578 days ago (November 3rd, 2010)
When The Luster Is Gone
oh man - another incredible collab team is born! i love your lyrics and especially your vocal delivery michael. Ted's song is incredible, and I'm really delighted you found him at MJ. I hope this is just the start for you guys, your energies work together in near-perfect ways here. insta-download, i will enjoy this song for years - thanks!
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Carrie71 said 2578 days ago (November 3rd, 2010)
When the Luster...
The Smiths and Cure vibe here for sure. I also think that Ed does some pretty amazing stuff! I am a fan. These vocals and lyrics are also fantastic. Great tune gents!
Parichayaka said 2576 days ago (November 5th, 2010)
awesome!
this sound totally works! Echo and the Bunnymen, yes, some Cure influence even? vocals are strong, expressive and confident (those remind me of Bono, can I write anything original here?!) and like the drums, bass and guitars blend perfectly. This doesn't have a 'collaboration' feel at all. Really does sound like a real live band, which is quite rare and that much more impressive when it's done right.

If I didn't know I was on MacJams I wouldn't believe you can download this track for free!

Excellent track from the songwriting, structure, mix and performance. Timing is tight but the overall feel is detached and [a much better word for] cool. I'll leave it to other people to write more insightful comments, but what an awesome post this is!
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billykirsch said 2572 days ago (November 9th, 2010)
Hey Michael
Your voice sounds great in this key. It's cool you decided to go for the higher octave even when it would take some more (perhaps just metaphorical) sweat.
Ted's guitars (including the bass guitar) sound sweet.
Diggin' the lyrics.

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tf10music said 2569 days ago (November 13th, 2010)
damn!
I was working on vocals for this same instrumental haha. You did a wonderful job. I see you saw the opportunity for U2-esque vocals in here as well! I really like what you did with the verses. Great stuff!
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Kicbal said 2558 days ago (November 24th, 2010)
Yes
This is sweet. Great sounds from all the players involved. Having worked with Ted23 before, I can attest to his great tone. He's a master of this type of guitar playing and song style. Vocals fit the bill perfect. Downloaded!
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